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Forum Post: why all the anti-semitism

Posted 8 years ago on Dec. 12, 2011, 11:26 p.m. EST by blackbloc (-19)
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the anti-semitic rhetoric is really unproductive and turns middle america off big time. besides the fact that it consists of bald faced lies. it has no place in OWS.

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[-] 2 points by forOWS (161) 8 years ago

There are some people here who post anti-semitic rants and those posts in no way mean that the OWS movement agrees with what is written in those particular posts. So just ignore them.

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 8 years ago

No but it is another high jacking of the OWS name that will keep most of mainstream America away from this organization.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

exactly

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

it is difficult to ignore when it is so pervasive and what about someone curious as to what OWS is about the go to the forum and bang anti semitic rhetoric is every where. It gives us all a black eye. Mods need to start banning all anti semitic rhetoric and the posters should be banned

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 8 years ago

All conspiracy theorist should be banned. They drown OWS in a very lowly form of thought.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

some conspiracy theory is actually conspiracy fact however the anti semitic anti zionist anti israel zog zionist conspiracy garbage has no basis in reality at all much like the protocols of zion they are just made up

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 8 years ago

Do you think 911 is relevant to what Occupy is trying to accomplish? I do. Someone who spams this site with ridiculous pictures and pornography ( Thrasymaque ) is not in a position to tell anyone what is proper or not proper thought. Be careful or he will spam your post with all kinds of garbage.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

agreed

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 8 years ago

The conspiracies being discussed on this forum are all nonsensical and useless for Occupy. They should be banned: truthers, anti-semites, David Icke boys, etc...

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i got you the real loonies but i will say that when the government gives the answers it concerns me because well they lie would you agree

[-] 2 points by teenager (11) 8 years ago

World Conference against Racism

34 minute mp3 audio

http://www.multiupload.com/9OTGQYOKSQ

pfd

http://www.un.org/WCAR/durban.pdf

Recalling the United Nations Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples of 1960, Reaffirming our commitment to the purposes and principles contained in the Charter of the United Nations and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Affirming that racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance constitute a negation of the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, Reaffirming the principles of equality and non-discrimination in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and encouraging respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction of any kind such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status, Convinced of the fundamental importance of universal accession to or ratification of and full implementation of our obligations arising under the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination as the principal international instrument to eliminate racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance, Recognizing the fundamental importance for States, in combating racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia, and related intolerance, to consider signing, ratifying or acceding to all relevant international human rights instruments, with a view to universal adherence,

[-] 0 points by utahdebater (-72) 8 years ago

Are you a teenager as well?

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

If he is his heart at least, is in the right place (see & avail yourself of his excellent post on http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/ as I previously advised you on http://occupywallst.org/forum/ridiculousness-of-ows/ ) and I seriously doubt that I'd ever have cause to call him a sophist !

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

test

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

huh?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

this thread wasn't going to the top when updated

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

no one wants to hear the truth

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

It's just trolls.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8706) 8 years ago

Isn't it OBVIOUS that those comments are just placed here by outside aggitators to discredit OWS? I mean OBVIOUS!!!

Of course just posting this, not to meantion your despicable username, which might as well just be "blackshirt," makes it clear that you are one of those outside aggitators.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 8 years ago

Open source website + lack of active moderator + disorganized website = invitation to all comers.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8706) 8 years ago

Yes, we must become very disciplined in which posts we respond to. I generally do not respond to posts like this one at all.

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 8 years ago

Well, i don't know who can answer but why is this website set up to fail and host invective and dissension and set up to repel those who might be curious? I think the people who run this site ought to relinquish the name "Occupy Wall Street" and give it over to the GA. When someone googles for Occupy Wall Street this site is right near the top. That should not be as long as it is what it is.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8706) 8 years ago

I have advocated what you are saying time and time again, to no response. I think we had better face the fact that this website is being run by this movement's detractors. The National General Assembly must come up with a solution to this problem, and should have done so a long time ago! This kind of thing is a strong test of whether the GA is a functional organization!

[-] 0 points by alouis (1511) from New York, NY 8 years ago

You're right.

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[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

excuse me but i am a staunch ows supporter and no sometimes it is not obvious all the more reason to ban any one who advocates anti-semitism do you even know what black block is?

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

left wingers + 9/11 truthtards = an assload of anti-Semites

there's no way around it. your sentiment is appreciated and very true, but as long as you have radical lefties and truthtards, you're going to have a lot of anti-Semites.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

the funny thing is i am a left wing 9-11 conspiracy theorist however i don't entertain any notions of a zionist plot a new world order plot perhaps but that is hardly zionist i just think that when people are so clearly ignorant and filled with hate it makes the real visionaries and revolutionaries look marginalized people think we may harbor those very beliefs against which we are so opposed

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

non-bigoted truthers are hardly any better. the willful ignorance is just astounding.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

actually my 9-11 questions are rooted around building 7 which was neither hit nor damaged in the attacks but collapsed none the less to simply believe the government explanation and believe they told the complete truth is well a fallacy much like the kennedy assassination.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

so no conspiracy on the towers, pentagon, or shanksville, but "they" took down 7 because....what? and 7 was damaged in the attacks when the north tower collapsed, igniting huge fires. there are literally dozens of quotes from NYC police, fire and ambulance who were on the scene and described 7 as having suffered severe damage and large fires. but you, who was not there on that day, know better?

truthtard, please.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

actually there are eyewitness accounts describing a much different scene than the one you believe however i find building 7 the most compelling evidence

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"actually there are eyewitness accounts describing a much different scene than the one you believe"

yeah, you're right. some people swear there were no planes involved at all. I guess those deserve to be taken seriously, huh?

"i find building 7 the most compelling evidence"

yeah, you already said that. and I responded. so, like most truthers, your reply to my additional info is to ignore it and repeat what you said in the first place. this is much more typical than you can possibly imagine. it is exactly what 95% of the (literally) 100s of truthers I have discussed this with do.

wanna try again?

WHY did "they" take down 7?

7 was damaged and had large fires. these are the words of dozens of first responders. why do you choose to disbelieve them when they state what they saw with their own eyes? (I assume you've seen these. I mean, you wouldn't come to such a conclusion without researching all the info against your theory, would you?)

and given that you do choose to disbelieve people who were there, why do you think you know better than people who were there?

any chance you can actually answer these rather than do the truther shuffle all around them and basically repeat yourself again?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

what about the corroborated eyewitness accounts that clearly there were explosions in building 7 how do you answer what about all the passports and the koran and flight manuals in the suitcase come on please http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MN9382eGY

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

and, as expected, here comes the truther scatter-shot, as reliable as the fucking sun rising in the east.

here's a re-cap....

-truther makes a statement

-reality-based person proves it wrong by asking questions

-truther ignores this and repeats statement

-reality-based person points this out, restates the questions

-truther brings up 3 other things that do not address the questions posed for a second time

-reality-based person tells the truther to answer the questions or fuck off

so...are you going to answer the questions or bring up 3 more things?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

have you ever even seen loose change?

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

if you can't answer these, at least admit you can't answer these. otherwise, answer these:

WHY did "they" take down 7?

7 was damaged and had large fires. these are the words of dozens of first responders. why do you choose to disbelieve them when they state what they saw with their own eyes? (I assume you've seen these. I mean, you wouldn't come to such a conclusion without researching all the info against your theory, would you?)

and given that you do choose to disbelieve people who were there, why do you think you know better than people who were there?

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

yes. then I saw the second version where they fixed the lies and bullshit from the first version. then I saw the third version where they fixed the lies and bullshit from the second one. then I saw the fourth one that fixed the lies and bullshit from the third one. finally, they gave up and let all the lies and bullshit in the fourth one remain.

which one did you see? did you really find it compelling? are you really THAT naive and easily swayed? are you interested in buying a bridge from me?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

watch it again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3MN9382eGY then detail and prove how it is wrong

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 8 years ago

Actually racism in general. It divides and silences. Intolerance prevents many thing from happening in many cases it ends many things including life.

[-] -1 points by BofL (434) 8 years ago

Have you read the Talmud?

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 8 years ago

Have you ever considered tolerance?

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[-] 0 points by BofL (434) 8 years ago

I'm a non-fan also. Suggest you take a gander at some choice Talmud quotes and tell me if this looks like tolerance http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/talmud.htm there's a reason all you ever hear about is Koran and Sharia (who owns the media). Compare the three (bible , Koran, Talmud) good luck finding anything that compares To the hate in Talmud http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biblianazar/quotes_3mayorreligions.htm

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you took psychedelics and they turned you into an anti semite what the fuck kind of drugs where you taking. but i think you are taking speed because you sound paranoid delusional

[-] 0 points by bigbangbilly (594) 8 years ago

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[-] 0 points by BofL (434) 8 years ago

Look here billybong-Theodore hertzl (a "Jew") invented anti-semitism as you know it. Do a bit of research. "Jew" is a strawman. Meaningless. Antisemite-someone who they decide is looking too closely at their WORKS.

I pointed you at 2 good links and neither is "antisemitic".

THOSE ARE STRAIGHT QUOTES FROM THEIR OWN BOOK get a grip. I realize it's a shocker.

Research elsewhere. learn on your own time.

[-] -1 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you are an anti semite kkk nazi freak a jew invented anti semitism lmfao. do some research ha ha ha jew is a strawman insane. you will be thrown on the ash heap of history. punk fascist neo nazi scumbag

[-] -1 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

see it didn't take long for an anti semitic weirdo to pop up out of the wood work. spew your hate and your complete misunderstanding of talmudic study. next you will say the kabballah is a tool of satan. freak.

[-] 0 points by BofL (434) 8 years ago

Lot of anger there strawman.

Hasbara is a concept "normal" people here aren't familiar with. It takes so many forms. Zionism is the political manifestation of Talmud, most holy book of Jews (most Jews) it’s fair to say. Until we are willing to address the fact that this is a “religious” supremacist movement used from one end to the other by Rothschild et al at the top end of the $ pyramid to dominate and manipulate the rest of the world including those at the bottom end of the "Jewish" pyramid and the entire pyramid scheme is designed to rest directly on the backs of “Goyim” non Jews the world over, we are subdividing the problem only looking at pieces of it, apologizing for the SOURCE. Talmud, it’s adherents, Jewish and non Jewish (I know people who operate by Talmudic principle who have never heard of it) are antithetical to common law principles. If you can agree that the 7 laws of Noah or the Ten Commandments are basically sound in principle, you can also say that Talmud is an 18 volume collection of Rabbinical sophistry designed to circumvent the law for Jews and only Jews. No such thing as "Jew" Things have specific names that represent predictable qualities and quantities.  Things like "frisbees(tm)" get special recognition for being representative of a product that is a small plastic flying disc.   Frisbees fly in any direction you throw them, with predictable results based on how you throw the disc, and let's say, weather conditions. Frisbees are made from plastic (other things are plastic that aren't frisbees)  I could probably list dozens of types of plastic.  There are cloth frisbees (flying discs) there are disc golf discs (or "frisbees"-to most observers who don't play frisbee or frisbee golf / disc golf, there is no difference between frisbee golf and any other game of frisbee.  There is ultimate frisbee-some type of team frisbee with scoring. How many colors are there of frisbees? How many sizes?  How many shapes? They ALL sail through the air gracefully when you throw them properly. Where does the Jew label come in?  There is NO predictable set of things a Jew is known to do.  All the things they ARE capable of: Infinite list of every kind of positive thing they can do and every kind of negative thing, every kind of imaginary thing.  The fiction is self perpetuating...a lie that got started, and rolled out of control.  The harder they try to make it all true, the more lies must be told. We have "Jew" as a racial distinction and disagreements as to qualifications within each of those subdivisions.  (Sephardic, Ashkenazi, Spinoza, yada yada...)  We have "Jew" meaning adherent to a religious doctrine.  Within this subset we have orthodox, reform, and others. Why "Jew" is SO diverse and unbounded by qualitative and quantitative meaning that this label can be of no use to us in reasoned discussion.   By allowing any discussion to be framed around anything "Jew"ish, it's as though we accept and ratify, sight unseen, tomes of Talmudic Sophistry, every person place thing or act that has ever been attributed to "Jews" since the beginning of written records (including all the fakes).   Why start from a lost position? Time to move on to addressing the problems that are being associated with Jews and Israel and make clear distinctions so we can divide and separate the real crimes of commission from the false ideas of pseudo religion/false origin and most especially, the ingrained squeamishness that prevents most people from seeing the problem.  The term "Jew" serves to obscure these criminals.  It has only the life we give to it.  Jew is a fiction-a STRAW MAN.   If frisbees started coming off the line that didn't fly-we wouldn't call them frisbees.  Why do we afford Jews the same kind of leeway.  That label doesn't fit anything.  It's pure equivocation.  It falls flat-it does NOT fly. I suppose It would be impossible for me to come to this conclusion without the entirety of my experience and education, and without the Jewish label attached to ao many people i have dealt with directly and indirectly. I'm sure we could not have caught the tail of the problem without an overwhelming mountain of evidence. The continuous identity theft and self abusing sophistry is a paper trail like none other.   These diverse tribal gangs march to a familiar drumbeat that is inaudible to the rest of us "normal" people.  However, by the time we "normal folk" waking as truth seekers, seem able to grasp at the name of this problem, history shows that we may again find the strawman * has a new name, and that we really only have hold of the tail. Forget the name. It's the thing they fear most-irrelevance. Truth. We must identify their codes, their systematic criminal methods. Read the manuals full of hate speech they use to train generations of extremeist supremacist criminals.   Talmud is one of these hatefull manuals (Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion is like Talmud for Dummies or Cliffs Notes).  Kaballah caballah -another. We lose the game before we even start when we write or speak "Jew" in a thought that is supposed to address concrete crimes they have commited or may be suffering (as a result).   The word itsself is subtle poison - toxic in any amount, and lethal in many cases, where people mistook strawmen for humans.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

did you really mention the protocols of zion ha ha ha ha you are a brainwashed idiot. why don't you pull your head out of your ass

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you truly are a babbling idiot who thinks they are an intellectual ha ha ha ha ha ha very funny honestly you should be banned why the hell have you not been banned

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 8 years ago

Iv'e been wondering the same thing for about a week. On top of it, he keeps re-posting his lame text over and over again. Why are pea brains allowed here?

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[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I turn on the news and they worry of islam groups winning electrons because they are organized

[-] 1 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

what the hell are you talking about?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

anti islamism

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

we should all be tolerant of those who are not like us

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I'm not so sure islam is all that different

though I prefer a human race with a faces

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

depends on the strain of islam, how devout the person is. but one thing they do all have in common that simply will NEVER mesh with the West, is they do not want you to be able to make fun of islam. in the West, we make all kinds of fun of jesus, judaism, god, etc. it's like no big deal here. but islam cannot handle making fun of the midget child-fucker they worship. that is a problem.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i dont subscribe to that non sense i have personally had several pakistani muslim friends and i loved those guys sure there is islamophobia but i want no part in that. a persons religious beliefs do not preclude them from accepting others right to worship and exist

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

people claim islam oppresses women

Saudi Arabia being the greatest offender

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

christianity represses women as well. any religion in the hands of fanatics is dangerous and the true message is distorted.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

"O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under a trust from God and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste."

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/523/

this is an english translation

but women do not seem to be acknowledged as equals

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

they are not acknowledged as equals in christianity either

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

what of the Torah?

the book of Mormon ?

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i would never lower my self to reading cult material so idk about the book of mormon but the torah does no where near the harm to women that paul does in the new testament

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"christianity represses women as well"

wow, you're not only a truthtard, you're into moral equivocation, too.

whatever repression of women xianity still practices, it is NOTHING compared to the majority of the islamic world. but you cant handle this. you are islamic (or overly sympathetic to it) and you have an agenda. you cant stand criticism of islam. this is why you cling to the idiotic notion of 9/11 truth and try to make the silly claim equating women wearing blankets with some phantom repression of women by xianity. xianity had their period of insane oppression. it ended over 100 years ago. islam needs a sweeping and profound reformation to catch up with at least the 18th century. I'd prefer the current century, but the 18th century would be a vast improvement.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I try not to use the world you

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

telling you that you have to be subservient to your husband and that he should have the final say in all decisions is not repression? telling them that they must wear a dress and be covered from ankle to neck is not repressive ?

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

I never said there was none.

do you even know what "moral equivocation" means?

but if that is your point, then we know 9/11 was not only carried out by islamics, but they were just following instructions in the koran. the koran does say to kill or harm others for simply not being islamic.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i never said that jihadists were not involved.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

so you don't know what "moral equivocation" means. got it.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i do but your attempt at an argument using the phrase was week. btw i dont support islam in anyway they live in the 14th century if you want to be a secular muslim and join the modern world i am cool with that.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

I don't think you know what it means and you're too immature to admit it. oh, well.

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[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i live in the real world buddy not the imaginary abstract world you live in.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

A truthtard who thinks he lives in the real world! Hilarious.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

it was carried out by those who would profit fool

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

right, they're going to carry out the riskiest, most insanely redundant, over the top plot that needs a 1500-point checklist and thousands of people "in on it" to....skim money.

because there's no other way to do that.

you are an imbecile.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

seems to have worked so far and really they just allowed it to happen and helped it along

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"they just allowed it to happen and helped it along"

you're an idiot.

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[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you sir are an ignorant conformist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n76g57X4hM

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

I knew it. You take Alex jones seriously. And you have no idea how ridiculous that is, do you? He is a liar and a huckster and an offensive piece of shit who deserves cancer. And you support and believe what he says.

Time to kill yourself. Do it now before you accidentally breed. But first buy more t-shirts and DVDs, you pathetic assclown. I suppose you don't realize none of the predictions in any of his stupid movies have come true. But you still cling to his words. What a puppet you are.

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 8 years ago

Did you just link to Alex Jones, a known scam artist and conspiracy theorist? How sad is that? No wonder you got banned from this site.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

it has not been debunked it an adequate fashion for highly intelligent respected professionals in their fields. don't believe the government. i am not saying they blew it up themselves i am saying they helped it along just like they did in the 93 attack. now that is in the court records you can see for yourself it is public record we helped attack ourselves then what if the bomb had worked the way it was supposed to and brought down the tower then???

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"it has not been debunked it an adequate fashion for highly intelligent respected professionals in their fields."

there are over 220,000 combined members of the AIA and ASCE. the number of these highly intelligent respected professionals who believe inside job is....how many, other than richard gage? less than 1%.

you simply have no idea what you are talking about.

of the 1200 "members" of A&E911, my DOG has been a member in good standing for almost 3 years now. that's what a piece of shit that organization is.

you lose. you're wrong. deal with it.

"...in the 93 attack. now that is in the court records..." no it isn't, you just want it to be there so much you'll make an absurd claim like this.

"what if the bomb had worked the way it was supposed to " - it did work the way it was supposed to, just not how the cavemen who put it there wanted it to.

see, that's one of your many, many problems. what you want to be has become what should be. your fantasy is your reality so when things do not line up you make unintentionally hilarious statements like these, revealing your mental illness.

try to get your puckered lips off islam's ass for 10 seconds. maybe a little bit of oxygen will help you refocus on reality, jerkoff.

better yet, read the forums here:

http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=64

and see every stupid thing you believe about 9/11 get steamrolled

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

no you are the idiot who accepts what these bastards tell you is in fact the truth sure they told us everything about 9-11 they know and oswald was the lone gun men what are you stuck on stupid watch loose change already loser.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"watch loose change"

which one? the first one with all the lies an bullshit in it? or the second one they made where they took out some of the lies and bullshit and added other lies and bullshit?

or do you mean the third one where they took some more lies and bullshit out and added other lies and bullshit?

or maybe you mean the "final cut" version where more lies and bullshit were taken out and other lies and bullshit were added?

I've seen them all. only a fucking retard takes them seriously. you don't have to know much more than what a child knows to see through the lies and bullshit in loose change. what's your excuse, dummy?

maybe you should look at the many, many documents and viewer's guides that tear loose change apart, piece by piece. each of the 4 lie and bullshit laden versions have been torn apart. are you even aware of this?

or are you an idiot who accepts what those bastards tell you is in fact the truth? how fucking gullible are you, anyway?

and btw, oswald/jfk has NOTHING to do with 9/11. nothing at all.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

really a lot of very smart people seem to think this is a distinct possibility

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

no smart people believe this.

self-deluded imbeciles who refuse to think critically "seem to think this is a distinct possibility."

those who investigate it and don't puss out when the details show the inside job claim is nonsense know better.

[-] 0 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

the simple fact is that israel is a fascist rogue state perpetuating an ongoing genocide against the palestinians and operating a global spy network for the express purpose of global domination. It has every place in ows because the underlying cause of the whole thing is oligarchy, and the oligarchs are either rich white Europeans or rich white Jews. I agree this is not a topic for discussion on this forum due to its complexity and have repeatedly asked that we take the discussion off this forum and over to the wiki.

but no, everyones determined to load all their time and energy into a giant shit storm instead of bother to work on the issues and form a new political party and create meaningful solutions.. etc.

I'm sure many of you will be pleased to hear that I'm at the edge of quitting all involvement with occupy because of the simple fact that they can't get their heads out of their asses. On this issue and pretty much every other issue.

It is not anti semitic to point out the simple facts of Israeli fascism or assorted world oligarchy manipulations.

It is anti semitic to say that there is something inherently wrong with Jews. There is a difference. Grok it.

Come to the wiki and work on it. Or don't.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Article_5_Convention

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY

http://occupywallst.org/forum/im-quitting-unless-you-all-start-working-stay-the-/

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

you are a perfect example of what the original poster is talking about.

and you don't understand why people think you are an anti-Semite.

which proves you're mentally ill.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

thats all you have. try to say i am mentally ill. whats hilarious is that proves you have no argument, and i am factually right in every detail. You can't call me an anti semite just because i know what nefarious things Israel is up to. IF Israel is actually being FASCIST, which it is, Saying so is not being anti semite, its being factual. And Me? accuse ME of being anti semite? You have no idea who you are talking with.

I design arcologies based on the tree of life, you tenth wit.

Nobody is more sympathetic to the positive side of Judaism than i am. Nobody.

==============

http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_cana0.htm

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061210235136AA8J6DT

http://bible.cc/exodus/32-27.htm

New International Version (©1984) Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.'"

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/cr_list.html

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"thats all you have."

that's all I need, fruitcake.

you're a mentally ill anti-Semite. get help.

"I design arcologies based on the tree of life"

see what I mean, fruitcake? you're nuts.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

really, I'm nuts? How would you know? turns out, chimpboy, that I'm actually qualified to figure out whos nuts, I have the actual knowledge and understanding to do that. You are just a troll, and you don't even know what the tree of life is, obviously, or what the difference between anti semite and just plain anti fascism would be.

Back in reality, I'm a multi expert, who is not only sane but who has proven redundantly to civilization that I'm right at the tip of the edge of the human bellcurve moving forward.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/189607421131184/ Occupy the occupy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/134834953248102/ Metaphysics Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/197961226914352/ Nice Conversational Logic

https://www.facebook.com/groups/211230325568382/ Nice Politicos

https://www.facebook.com/groups/163532010364963/ NICE ACCE Arcology Corps Of civil Engineers

https://www.facebook.com/groups/162297577150816/ ThinkStarship

https://www.facebook.com/groups/178521015519904/ Psychology Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/129253417142114/ Psychonautics Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/184405738274397/ NICE Chemistry

https://www.facebook.com/groups/106635192757201/ NICE Brain Anatomy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/214005711964586/ Human Sexuality and Gender Issues

https://www.facebook.com/groups/148731335182163/ Ethics Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/181467401904270/ NICE Sociology

https://www.facebook.com/groups/217616588250474/ NICE Physics

https://www.facebook.com/groups/163933236999668/ NICE Quantum Mechanics

https://www.facebook.com/groups/213467875344964/ Chemical Biology

https://www.facebook.com/groups/143954769010766/ Collaborative Fiction

https://www.facebook.com/groups/128533243887558/ NICE Human Anatomy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/216719968357067/ NICE Human Ergonomics

Fuck you, And if you need to understand the psychology of how to determine what makes a person nuts, you can always bring that topic up on my psychology group, it would be fascinating to field such a question.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"really, I'm nuts?"

yep.

"How would you know?"

by the crazy shit you say.

"I'm a multi expert, who is not only sane but who has proven redundantly to civilization that I'm right at the tip of the edge of the human bellcurve moving forward."

yeah, like that, fruitcake.

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[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

you do seem kinda mentally ill.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

You attack me and you are the shit head troll. You are the arrogant little basterd that runs around here trolling everyone, because you haven't the sense, or the intelligence, or the decency to make any kind of real conversation. And on top of that, you are almost certainly a paid shill, here to attack and demean in order to control, and operating your own little blog space entirely for the purpose of closeting up dupes.

You have some nerve attacking me again, you filthy little brownshirt.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

just say'n. ya know...

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[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you are a fool nothing more

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you have shown your true ignorance of historical fact and that is no shocker you have zero credible research to back up your claims trying to cover your ass with claims that you are not an anti semite ring hallow. that you try to use the guise that it is to complex to discuss just reinforces my stance that you are in fact an anti semite with very little grasp of actual history yeah your right no one wants to work with an anti semite you do know OWS was started by jews and consists of large numbers of jews esp in NYC right freak someone please start banning these anti semites already

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

historical fact? which? that israel stole the land in the first place? i have all the credible research i need, its a known simple fact. You have no clue what you are talking about, and as usual, i have 20 phds to bring to bear and thats before we even discuss my study of world religions or world religious history. Right, i am an anti semite. Thats why i design arcologies shaped like the Tree of life and do exotic tables of correspondences to the sefira and paths. Thats why I fight for arcologies as the solution for BOTH sides in the conflict. "Guise" ? you and others like you are just plain pout of your depth. You have no clue who you are talking with or what i know, you are a chimp in a clown suit compared to me.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/112608Lendman.shtml

http://www.judeofascism.com/2009/10/just-as-they-denied-genocide-of.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02175.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02175.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11721

get your facts straight. When you get your head out of your ass, ask me again to explain Qaballah to you, its fascinating stuff.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

the fact that you think you are so intelligent and intellectual only highlights your stupidity.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

the fact that I AM intelligent, and intellectual, only makes your pathetic ad hom all the more pathetic.

The fact that my IQ has been tested formally on five different occassions, the fact that i spent my youth speed reading textbooks instead of playing with the chimpokid sheeple herd, makes me a geeks geek and a nerds nerd and the IQ Gods IQ God. And i really don't give a rats ass what you think about it, trollchimp.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

lmfao. oh no sir. Do not EVER confuse education with intellect. You are nothing close to intelligent. Kindness and humility are traits of genius and you poses neither. Simply regurgitating everything you acquired in you're lethargic downtime flies in the face of intellect.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

I wouldn't confuse education with intellect. since my intellect has been formally measured, i only report back the facts. Which are that I'm within the top thousand smartest people in this country. You saying i'm not is only amusing rhetoric, you can't make a case, just an attack. And I'm particularly strong in the area of intelligence which is called lethetics, which means making new connections, so i am hardly regurgitating anything, i am the form of super Intelligence which creates and sees and makes new connections.

You attack me and you are the shit head troll. You are the arrogant little basterd that runs around here trolling everyone, because you haven't the sense, or the intelligence, or the decency to make any kind of real conversation. And on top of that, you are almost certainly a paid shill, here to attack and demean in order to control, and operating your own little blog space entirely for the purpose of closeting up dupes.

You have some nerve attacking me again, you filthy little brownshirt.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Oh what short memory

...and you stalking me again

...and here

the list goes on, and speaks for itself.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

my list of work on this forum makes your list look petty. You AREa troll, thats all you can prove. And whos stalking whom? You ARE. And you are leading everyone off this site to go play blog with you while you are AGAINST OWS. Con scam troll. Play link games with me? chimpclown.

List of Threads on OccupyWallStreet.org

http://occupywallst.org/forum/organizational-map-2/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/dangers-of-unmoderated-forums/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/purple-dialogue/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/enough-jabbing-at-wall-street-lets-go-for-the-knoc/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-the-occupy-movement-as-a-whole-become-a-m/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/corporate-oligarchy/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/thetruth-socialismcapitalismcommunismmarxism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-versus-corporatism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/no-war/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/help-me-understand/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-a-love-story/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/sociology/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/energy-101-solution/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ethics/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/break-your-left-right-conditioning/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/nader-kucinich-and-paul/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/5-facts-you-should-know-about-the-wealthiest-one-p/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-am-homeless-joe-jp-morgan-chase-accidentally-for/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/can-we-end-the-fed/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-end-the-federal-reserve-and-what-do-you-replac/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/where-are-we-and-how-do-we-move-forward/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/things-wall-st-did-were-not-illegal/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/teaching-the-occupation/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-forum-needs-structure/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-is-not-your-personal-billboard-for-your-politi/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/systems-theory-primer/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/organize-inform-take-action-effect-change/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/better-website-needed/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-playing-the-devils-games/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/nonviolence-the-only-path/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-not-against-capitalism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-is-not-about-political-stripe-it-is-about-bas/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/national-initiative-for-democracy/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-third-political-party-the-movement-of-the-middle/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/300-fema-camps/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-is-a-false-flag-operation/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-this-will-not-work/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/paradigm-shift-now/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-proposal-for-focus/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-the-bullshit-posts-and-get-organized/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/suggested-goals/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/oct-18-gao/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/naomi-klein-climate-change-fight-is-down-to-the-99/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/only-1-demand-includes-all-others-article-v-of-the/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-eco-villages/

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Troll Repellent

You're an idiot. I don't even have a reply on most of those threads. you just posted a bunch of links hoping nobody would read them, just be impressed that you can post a lot of links.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

Ah no. I posted a bunch of links because my work and involvement here are about those things. Interacting with you - at all- is a side problem, hinging on the fact that you are a troll, and that you are con scamming people into blogging in your space so that you can closet them and shut them up that way.

You are an evil person. And I will continue to expose you.

I'm a genius. You are the idiot.

Heres how i spend my intellectual time and energy. How do you spend yours?

============

https://www.facebook.com/groups/189607421131184/ Occupy the occupy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/134834953248102/ Metaphysics Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/197961226914352/ Nice Conversational Logic

https://www.facebook.com/groups/211230325568382/ Nice Politicos

https://www.facebook.com/groups/163532010364963/ NICE ACCE Arcology Corps Of civil Engineers

https://www.facebook.com/groups/162297577150816/ ThinkStarship

https://www.facebook.com/groups/178521015519904/ Psychology Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/129253417142114/ Psychonautics Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/184405738274397/ NICE Chemistry

https://www.facebook.com/groups/106635192757201/ NICE Brain Anatomy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/214005711964586/ Human Sexuality and Gender Issues

https://www.facebook.com/groups/148731335182163/ Ethics Advanced

https://www.facebook.com/groups/181467401904270/ NICE Sociology

https://www.facebook.com/groups/217616588250474/ NICE Physics

https://www.facebook.com/groups/163933236999668/ NICE Quantum Mechanics

https://www.facebook.com/groups/213467875344964/ Chemical Biology

https://www.facebook.com/groups/143954769010766/ Collaborative Fiction

https://www.facebook.com/groups/128533243887558/ NICE Human Anatomy

https://www.facebook.com/groups/216719968357067/ NICE Human Ergonomics

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

Today I will start setting up a free OWS banner builder on a subdomain of my WebSite so website owners can show support on their websites.

and Looking for writers.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

just a bunch of incoherent babbling you are an anti semite and an idiot you think that you are smart but you are a fool the ability to learn and make connections means nothing if you have no wisdom which you sorely lack. it appears you are against even man made climate change maybe you out smarted yourself right out of logic and sense. from what i have observed you would be fortunate to be mensa which you probably are not even.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

from what you, an ignorant asshat troll has observed? lol. I joined mensa when i was 16. They were too slow and game oriented for my tastes, so i quit.

The incoherent babbler is you. You not being able to understand what i am saying does not make it incoherent, it makes it over your stupid ignorant head.

I am not an anti semite, i am an anti fascist. Man made global warming is a a real fact, humans are causing it, and if we don't stop everyone dies because of it.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Article_5_Convention

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you are ignorant i on the other hand started college at 16 ha ha ha while you where playing games i was banging college girls, expanding my mind, and actually living life. you are an anti semite. truth hurts i know it has happened to me before i have been wrong and had to admit it. by the way intellect means nothing if you don't have any wisdom No, I will weep no more. In such a night To shut me out? Pour on; I will endure. In such a night as this? O Regan, Goneril! Your old kind father, whose frank heart gave all— O, that way madness lies; let me shun that; No more of that.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

right, its tuff to be ignorant AND have twenty phds worth of autodidactic knowledge. started college at 16? and THIS is how you spend your time? sorry, don't think that reality tests well, doesn't pass the "hmmm.. could this even be true?" question. Banging college girls? oh? and you are here to brag about your sexual immorality? Living life? i have no proof of this, i think you are a moms basement caged BSer. Calling me an anti semite does not make it so. Wisdom? like you would know what that is all about, mr "banging college girls."? Its neat to see you end with some nice quotes, not that you understand them. I'm compiling up richards troll file right now.. your next.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

yeah at 16 i was having sex with college girls while you were playing games at with mensa and yeah i am bored right now so it is how i spend my time when i feel like reading idiotic diatribe. your claims of vast knowledge are absolutely lies as you consistently demonstrate now sex is immoral ha ha ha ha yes you are an anti semite you have demonstrated this again and again i suppose drugs are immoral as well huh? i love running into snide snarky wanna be intellectuals anti semitic pricks who are quite obviously to any one with with half a brain are frauds at the divey rock bars i inhabit i love it because when i tell people like you in person to shut the fuck up or i am gonna punch you in the face sometimes you keep talking lol

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

dude you are full of shit take it from someone invited to john hopkins university at age 12. douche. thinking you are an intellectual just makes you a fraud as you are. if you think your intelligence is equal to mine you have yet to make a statement proving it mull that over mister 20 phd's lmfao

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

yet? in which conversation? I prove it all day long. I prove it twenty different ways, i put forth the solutions on the wiki, i work it ten different ways. you missing the proofs is you not paying attention.

List of Threads on OccupyWallStreet.org

http://occupywallst.org/forum/organizational-map-2/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/dangers-of-unmoderated-forums/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/purple-dialogue/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/enough-jabbing-at-wall-street-lets-go-for-the-knoc/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-the-occupy-movement-as-a-whole-become-a-m/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/corporate-oligarchy/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/thetruth-socialismcapitalismcommunismmarxism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-versus-corporatism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/no-war/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/help-me-understand/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-a-love-story/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/sociology/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/energy-101-solution/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ethics/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/break-your-left-right-conditioning/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/nader-kucinich-and-paul/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/5-facts-you-should-know-about-the-wealthiest-one-p/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-am-homeless-joe-jp-morgan-chase-accidentally-for/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/can-we-end-the-fed/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-end-the-federal-reserve-and-what-do-you-replac/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/where-are-we-and-how-do-we-move-forward/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/things-wall-st-did-were-not-illegal/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/teaching-the-occupation/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-forum-needs-structure/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-is-not-your-personal-billboard-for-your-politi/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/systems-theory-primer/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/organize-inform-take-action-effect-change/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/better-website-needed/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-playing-the-devils-games/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/nonviolence-the-only-path/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-not-against-capitalism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-is-not-about-political-stripe-it-is-about-bas/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/national-initiative-for-democracy/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-third-political-party-the-movement-of-the-middle/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/300-fema-camps/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-is-a-false-flag-operation/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-this-will-not-work/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/paradigm-shift-now/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-proposal-for-focus/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-the-bullshit-posts-and-get-organized/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/suggested-goals/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/oct-18-gao/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/naomi-klein-climate-change-fight-is-down-to-the-99/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/only-1-demand-includes-all-others-article-v-of-the/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-eco-villages/

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

yes historical fact which you still have not looked up even though you are on the net. yes the fact that it was the ottoman empire, then it was british mandate of palestine, fact that is was partitioned into jordan an arab state and a jewish state, fact that jews always lived in palestine, fact that there is no basis for an historical ethnically or culturally palestinian people that there is no difference between palestinians and jordanians culturally ethnically or otherwise, would like some direct quotes from palestinian leadership that confirms all this "The Palestinian people have no national identity. I, Yasser Arafat, man of destiny, will give them that identity through conflict with Israel." would you like more it is not hard to get. yes the truth hurts

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

Jews did not always live in palestine. They stole the land via genocide to start with, and they wer more or less kicked out by the time hitler and the USA and the British gave it back to them.

These things you list as facts are all zionist lies and propaganda, and are easily disproved by the links i already posted.

Your lies only hurt because they are stupid, evil, disgusting garbage, and because i am sick of stupid, evil, disgusting garbage.

The truth does hurt. Here is the truth. Israel has no claim to that land, none at all. It stole the land via genocide. Twice.

I think you missed the TRUTH, here it is again.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/112608Lendman.shtml

http://www.judeofascism.com/2009/10/just-as-they-denied-genocide-of.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02175.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02175.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11721

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"They stole the land via genocide to start with"

see what I mean? you're mentally ill.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

thats the best you have? I am mentally ill? am i? did you bother to read exodus or are you just that stupid and evil? lets see, shall we help you out?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_cana0.htm

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061210235136AA8J6DT

http://bible.cc/exodus/32-27.htm

New International Version (©1984) Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.'"

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/cr_list.html

I'm sane, I'm educated, and i am right. the fact of the matter is, the jews stole that land in the first place via genocide. its recorded in their own holy book, and any idiot who fails to grok this in modern times clearly wasted all that time in sunday school or never went, and never bothered to learn what the bible actually says.

Calling me mentally ill when i am right? priceless.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"thats the best you have? I am mentally ill?"

not sure what you mean by "best" but it is all I need to comment on your mental state. you're mentally ill. it's plain to see.

"am i?"

yes, you are.

"did you bother to read exodus..."

yep, as well as Jack and the Beanstalk, some Judy Blume, and other silly kids stories that try to teach a lesson but only dolts and primitive minds take seriously or literally.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

https://www.facebook.com/groups/178521015519904/ Psychology Advanced

I'm not mentally ill. you are a trolling chimp, and i am the one whos actually qualified and who has the knowledge to make such determinations.

By all means, bring the question to the group. Its a fascinating topic which i am an expert in.

Exodus clearly contains a story of genocide by the jews in order to claim land.

the end.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

"I'm not mentally ill"

that's what most mentally ill people say.

"Exodus clearly contains a story..."

yep, just a story. that entire humanity enslavement manual contains lots of stories written to keep imbeciles and small thinkers in line.

no wonder it works so well on you, bigot. you're the target audience!

"Exodus..." - lmao! why anyone gives a rat's ass what scheming frauds posing as religious leaders wrote thousands of years ago is beyond belief.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 8 years ago

you are so full of yourself it's kinda scary.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

did you quote the niv as the bible ha ha ha ha

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

actually if you looked closely you'd see god himself gifted them the land soooo how could they steal it

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

right, according to them. back in reality god does not condone genocide, and back in reality god does not condone land theft. Wait, so all i have to do to get away with murder is explain that god told me it was something i am supposed to do? You notice how thats not a legal defense , for obvious reasons.

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Article_5_Convention

http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/THE_99%25_POLITICAL_PARTY

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

and these are not bibical times your argument holds as much water as a wicker basket. your frame of reference is in a current cultural context that in it of it self completely invalidates your point of view. sorry you fail

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

my argument is airtight. your argument that god gave people land, or authorized them to commit genocide, is the epic fail argument, not mine.

No real god gives people other peoples land or authorizes genocide in order to secure that land. So its your argument which is rhetorical, pathetic, and which does not hold water, nothing changes between now and "biblical times" in terms of those facts.

My frame of reference is not cultural, its objective, and your attempt to argue is pathetic, and has nothing to do with reality.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

you are anything but objective you still fail because you fail to comprehend the cultural frame of reference what was considered moral or acceptable in bibical times oh forget it if you are that fucking dumb it is a waste of time. period. now you claim to know what qualifies god ha ha ha you are truly dumb

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

https://www.facebook.com/groups/197961226914352/ Nice Conversational Logic

i am quite objective. The cultural frame of reference is irrelevant. the objective truth is that genocide is genocide; period, it doesn't matter what cultural mores are created to justify or normalize it.

Whats fucking dumb is that you think you can somehow produce in this argument a "israel gets off scott free because those were biblical times" argument.

Sorry, no, and you trying to make that argument only proves you are diseased, and you calling ME dumb as you do it proves you know your argument is hogwash.

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

it is obvious with all your knowledge you have very little grasp of world history, anthropology, theology, or sociology and your point of view is totally skewed and partial sorry you fail you said the cultural frame of reference is irrelevant ha ha ha there in lies your flawed logic it is absolutely funny :)

[-] 0 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 8 years ago

Just another anti-semite conspiracy theorist who should be banned from the site. A mentally ill nutjob. Useless and ready for the thrash.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 8 years ago

"first, You are the nut job, right off the top, you have no regard for truth or reality. Second, I'm quite sane. third, I'm not anti semite, and in fact have quite a high regard for and deep knowledge of Qaballah, fourth, you have no content, so you chime in with nothing but an ad hom all around? Back to first. You are a nut job. and a prick. And the worser problem than religious nuts." who should be banned from this site, eh? FASCIST. I'm uber sane. I know what i am talking about, and you are ignorant on all counts and just sharing your two cents for ad homs... who should get banned for trolling? YOU.

read them. are you ignorant, or are you a gate keeper? its assholes like you which make the "movement" stuck.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/112608Lendman.shtml

http://www.judeofascism.com/2009/10/just-as-they-denied-genocide-of.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02175.html

http://www.mail-archive.com/marxist-leninist-list@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02175.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11721

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

where you taught the kabbalah by a rabbinical scholar if not you did not learn the kabbalah do you speak and read hebrew if not you did not learn the kabbalah. you have yet to prove any of your wild statements

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

every link is to any anti semitic site how can you be taken as credible

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

yeah i thought that would shut you up

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

Arab League (Amin Al Husseini) immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.

Secretary General of Arab League [xxx] Azzam Pasha: “This will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre.”

Amin Al-Husseini: “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

here is some more truth for your little brain. United Nations General Assembly votes in favor of partition of Palestine into a Jewish and a Palestinian state. Amongst supporting countries were Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen and Turkey. The British Mandate in Palestine is officially ended.

May 15th 1948. Israel [xxix] declares its independence

[-] 0 points by blackbloc (-19) 8 years ago

i checked your links and they have zero credibility as do you. and you neglect to include jordan it was 70% of the british mandate for palestine and i do support a two state solution fool just so you know but you want to have your punk mind blown read this it may enlighten your dim mind loser. http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/arafat_en.html

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 8 years ago

All rhetoric is unproductive. Stick to the context and the points. The establishment created and promotes division. If we all stopped judging each other over petty crap, and united under one roof we could prevail. The media corrupts. It creates division. As do the "hate" groups out there throw down your differences. The establishment also creates the "issues" Then we differ and divide accordingly. We will not get our country back folks unless we truly unite.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

human nature, not "the establishment," is the source of division. but, yes, the system promotes them (divide and conquer, a specialty of the left).

the democrats and the left who LOVE racial beancounting are the worst offenders.

[-] 0 points by NewEnglandPatriot (916) from Dartmouth, MA 8 years ago

Human nature is what we see in every aspect of our lives. If we united on one thing (love, humanity) worked for each other rther than ourselves we would not need money. We stop dividing on the rest of these artificial issues we could live in peace. But nobody ever seems to get it. This is why the end is just around the corner. We are at convergence people. Convergence, the beginning of another dark age. Economic collapse will lead to tyranny, famine, destruction. Our nations are on the brink of destroying each other. Sit back and enjoy what is left of the show. I try to convey positive direction, but everyone divides on some insignificant piece of useless info. We are humanity, we are one. Lets move forward. We created the monster, we must tame it and forget all the petty crap. Turn off the TV, and live. You can see through many comments and how they are based on "media created points" Many of the masses are still under control, and just don't see it anymore.

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 8 years ago

we will always need money. ideas of a society without it are silly, naive and pointless.

we are NOT "just around the corner" of the end. you may be, but society is not. not even close. your cynicism is hard to take seriously when juxtaposed with your righteous idealism regarding peace and love. it makes them both seem like disingenuous drama.

"Turn off the TV, and live." - yes, and also stop counting other people's money. envy to the extreme ows has taken it is a very bad thing.