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Forum Post: A proposal for focus.

Posted 11 years ago on Oct. 8, 2011, 12:05 a.m. EST by NYCEO (0)
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I will start by saying now is the time. But the current demands address the symptoms, not the core problem. This movement has potential but lacks the focus that will legitimize it in an area that most people feel across demography and class. If this resolved while you have the attention of the media you obviously seem like little more than the collective fringe and lose legitimacy. It seems the root cause of our problems are in the area of the lack of transparency at the intersection between government (at all levels) and for-profit organizations and their special interest groups. Companies have the right to make a profit. They don't have a right to shape the laws that impact the quality of our lives or the future of our country/environment/international standing. I would like the leaders to take control and shape a focused agenda that the mainstream can understand and get behind. Remember, this isn't about a movement for the sake of a movement or to demonstrate the power of social media. This is a special but fleeting moment in time to force meaningful change around a real problem. Best of luck. I want to be behind you, but only around an issue that helps all Americans.



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[-] 1 points by saep66 (5) 11 years ago

I have a point that needs to be discussed. One huge inequality that needs to be addressed is that the average CEO in the US makes between 250 to 300 times the average employee. $10,982,000 vs $41,861, if those CEOs would reduce that to the 1970 -1980 numbers of 30 X. That could yield 200+ more jobs per company. http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_snapshots_20060621/ Based on the fact there are over 18,000 firms employing more than 500 employees that could yield between 3.5 million to 2.0 million jobs! Why do we need layoffs? So CEOs can make their bonus? If you believe this is justified then you might as well give up the fight, you believe they are right.

[-] 1 points by saep66 (5) 11 years ago

Those employees could be used to take US firms to the highest quality, most reliable, fastest moving firms in the world. Thinking lean does not mean laying off. It means using available resources as best needed. Cutting too deep will destroy companies and nations!

[-] 1 points by jolsson (18) 11 years ago

There is only one problem which has created today's corporate oligarchy: the voting system. There is only one solution that can create a democracy on par with advanced countries: constitutional changes that changes the voting system! More specifically we need proportional representation, which gives every voter a voice, not just those with money.

That should be the goal because it will give everyone a voice. To illustrate what I mean, consider this piece of history: New York used to have proportional representation 80 years ago, but it was crushed because powerful people didn't want black people elected.


[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 11 years ago

again, to start, they can't effectively organize that on the ground its too big. the only way to do it is with 1001 sub forums and a wiki- and since thats not coming in time ... the movement is failing.

[-] 1 points by KarmaTinfoil (52) from Philadelphia, PA 10 years ago

Where is it failing, hell, it's thriving in Philly, & somehow we have tents!