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Forum Post: Tonight, right now, Obama hangs with the 1%

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 11, 2011, 6:47 p.m. EST by RedHeadNotRedBred (10)
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Tuesday, Oct 10th, this very evening Obama is being coddled by a number of the 1% ers. John Morgan of Orlando FL is putting on a fund raiser at HIS HOME, with plates going for up to $33,000. Many other 1% ers are present. I voted for Obama for change, and what change did I get, more of the same. Those with the bucks get the ears of politicians.

I one thing that could come out of OWS, is a constitutional amendment that strickens corporations from 1) providing any money to an elected office, 2) providing any money to a PAC, 3) Industry associations can have lobbyist, but no lobbyist can provide money to any elected official, it would be just a meet and persuade conversation only.

Don't down the role of the Lobbyist, they represent the peoples voice too. Sierra Club, AARP, Mental Health Orgs, Rails to Trails, Natrual Resources Defense Council. Keep in mind, the ADA law pass in the late 80's did not originate in Congress, it was a group of Lobbyist that over the years made that happen. Join an association and have your voice heard. I can't go to Washington to rally on every topic.

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[-] 1 points by SanityScribe (452) 12 years ago

Stop the carrer politictions. Term limits, reduced salaries, only U.S. citizens can donate to candidates.

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[-] 1 points by WorkingClassAntiHero (352) from Manchester, NH 12 years ago

Seconded. I would also suggest a restriction on the private to public to private sector transitions that are so popular between industries and their regulatory bodies. Both in terms of appointments as well as retirement/resignation transitions.

Sort of a non-compete agreement if you will.

[-] 1 points by bogusanger7 (83) 12 years ago

I agree. The politics of big bucks and lobbyists have overridden the honest reasoning of this government. It has turned more towards self-righteous greed rather than the American people and their needs. I cannot express my disappointment in the people who have been put in power. If you read the Constitution, it has in it all that the nation needs to be a free society for the people and by the people, respectively. The problem is that the individuals who have the position of power in this country are not adhering to the Constitution and feel they are 'ABOVE THE LAW'. They create their own "persuasive" way of doing things for their own inordinately desires of wealth, profit and wantonness and pat each other on the back for doing so..

[-] 1 points by RedHeadNotRedBred (10) 12 years ago

So my membership to AARP is really a waste of time? My support of Rails-to-Trails is money wasted. Now if there was no Lobbying at all, how would my voice be heard in congress? I know I vote for a person, but I don't know every persuasion the person might vote for. I still think Lobbying is sort of my way of "petitioning the government". Doesn't that sound familiar. A petition is a collection of like minded folks looking for a remedy.

[-] 1 points by bogusanger7 (83) 12 years ago

Read the Constitution, then try to discuss Lobbying....Read about the branches of the government, then talk to the lobbyists and get their opinions.

Support lobbyists? Why worry about it since no one is listening now? How many of our voices were heard in the past 5 years? Who do yu think really runs the show in this country...the people or Daddy Warbucks? Look at the news...all the government has to do is put out a terrorist alert and everyone runs for cover looking for the "Powers that be" to save them.

So, why not Lobby Congress to release the truth behind the wars, poverty, pestilence, Wall Street and Corporate America and don't forget, of course....9/11....Please!

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

lobbying is the problem, all lobbying is a criminal enterprise and should be stopped and replaced with genuine open source direct democracy representation.


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[-] 1 points by RedHeadNotRedBred (10) 12 years ago

yea, I already saw your posting elsewhere. Your attitude is, if one father at a school abused their child, then all the fathers of the children in that school need to be castrated along with the offender. Lobbying is the people's voice to Congress. I don't even know all the details that the Sierra Club would request from Congress, but in general I support their overarching goals.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

thats a fine straw man argument, but it has nothing to do with me. Lobbying is a criminal enterprise, period, it is an unfair way of creating inequality and robs us of legit representation. Lobbying is not the peoples voice to congress, it is the corporate oligarchies voice to congress. i don't have a voice to congress because i don't have millions of bucks to back that voice in the current corrupt lobbying con scam. Direct representation means we ALL get a voice. lobbying means only the rich get a voice.


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[-] 1 points by RedHeadNotRedBred (10) 12 years ago

godoftruth - Ok, quite a bit of info there. Do you have any comment on the leader of the nation yucking it up with the 1% ers here in Orlando tonight. Apart from lobbying, isn't this sort of thing in the same vein of "buying favor"

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 12 years ago

exactly the point. obama. WTF? this is a corporate oligarch hanging with corporate oligarchs. its time to take out ALL of the trash- obama and all of the dems included.