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Forum Post: Why the fed must end

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 10, 2011, 5:08 a.m. EST by Kruuppe (13)
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In 1910 there was a highly secret meeting in the Jekyll Island clubhouse Georgia. 1 Senator Nelson Aldrige (who was chairman of the National Monetary Commission, which had the purpose of taking power away from wall st) and 6 bankers representing the Rockerfellers, Rothschilds, Walburgs, JP Morgan and Koon lobe &co. Together they represented 25% of the worlds wealth. They spent 9 days together there hammering out the key details of the Federal Reserve Banking System. The stated purpose of the bill was to break up the money trust of wall st, but it was written by the money trust. It was done in secrecy because of the deception.

These banking interests wanted to join together to form a cartel. The fed is not a government operation, it is a banking cartel, enshrined in law. It is a cartel in partnership with the government. The government gets something and the cartel gets something.

The government spends more then it collects in tax revenue, so it goes to the fed and asks for some money, the fed says ok and writes out a cheque for the government (only the fed has no money in it's account, just a cheque book). The government then takes the cheque and deposits it in a federal reserve account, now it can spend the money that never even existed. It pays a postal workers wages into a regular banking account. Now the regular bank has money in its account. Banks only need to keep 10% of deposits in reserve so if the postal worker left $100 in their account the bank can lend out $900. The bank just creates more money, on top of the money that the federal reserve created.

The fed money is spent by government, then the banks take the money and collect interest on it, which is interest on nothing. This new money dillutes the value of the older money in that same that you could dillute soup by pouring water into it. Prices do not rise, the value of the dollar is going down. Prices generally remain stable, for example in Roman times a 1oz gold coing would buy you a toga, a nice belt and some good sandals. Today a 1oz coing can buy you a good suit, handcrafted belt and good shoes. Money loses value because of the constant dillution.

The loss of value happens once the money is spent, the first to spend it is the government, then the borrower gets the value through inflation, and the banks make the money from interest (on nothing). The person who recieves it as wages, and has to spend it losses. Inflation is a tax, the govt spends the money but keeps quite about the hidden tax of inflation.

Since it was pass on Dec22 1913 there have been over 100 ammendments to the bill expanding the powers and reach of th fed.

The publicly stated objectives were: To stabalise the economy and protect people from bank failures. Needless to say epic fail on that part. However it's real objectives were:- To stop erosion of power away from New York and the banks (not small banks this is a cartel that hates competition, they wanted to eliminate the small banks) - To prevent private capital formation (Business and households saving money to pay for things) because there was a gold standard and banks had no way to control interest rates they needed a tool to make interest rates lower, they wanted a currency made of nothing, because you don't have to charge much interest to make a profit on nothing. - The final objective was to pass on losses to the taxpayer, by forcing government to bailout coorporations and other countries that owed them money or else directly saving the banks.

Many coorporations are paying more to the banks then they pay to stockholders. Thomas Eddison said "People who will not turn a shovel of dirt for a project, nor supply any of the materials for a project, will collect more money then those that do all the labour and provide all the materials." The money was created from nothing and the banks make more money then those that do all the work.

There is a river of unearned wealth flowing into the banking cartel. When a person has all the wealth they could ever spend what else is left to buy? Only power, they have bought the power centers of society, MSM, politicians, political parties, coorporations, non profit coorporations, universities, local governments anything that has influence has been targeted by this banking cartel, even those that say they oppose them.

The name of the game is Power not wealth.

We have to end the fed.

We have to have an informed population, education is the key. Patrick Henery said "Our bretheren are already in the field. Why stand we here idle?"

Time is running out, whatever you plan to do for your country, for your freedom do it now.

[mostly taken from G. Edward Griffen, The creature from Jekyll Island http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8484911570371055528# ]

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[-] 3 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

the money issuing power should never be alienated from democratically elected government and placed ambiguously into private hands as it is in America in the Federal Reserve System today.

http://www.Monetary.org

[-] 1 points by JanC71 (36) 13 years ago

In a free society where everybody can trade with eachother, money as a widely held medium of exchange is emergent. Nobody should have 'money issuing power'. What we need are competing currencies, NOT one fiat currency.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

IMO the founding faters were correct - "Congress SHALL coin and regulate the currency."

[-] 1 points by JanC71 (36) 13 years ago

The constitution can be wrong. And IMO it is asking for trouble. Not one institution should have the power to do this. Like I said, money is emergent in a barter-system. Money is only a special kind of barter. I don't see any moral justification to outlaw barter, because that is actually te consequence of this. Look up Berhard von Nothaus.

[-] 1 points by JanC71 (36) 13 years ago
[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

true that!

[-] 1 points by Kruuppe (13) 13 years ago

This power is all over the world, in different countries it is called a Reserve Bank, or a Central Bank. They are all the same banking cartel.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

Very true !

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

true that!

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

There is one state in the Union that is escaping the grip of the "Money Power," to a degree. This state has a 1 billion dollar surplus and an unemployment rate of 4%.

http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/north_dakota.php

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

most likely because they have been borrowing huge amounts to build the oil sands industry. if we don't fix things now, you'll get your in the end... the rear end just like the rest of us.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

why not read the link posted on WebOfDebt,com

1764 – Benjamin Franklin is asked by officials of the Bank of England to explain the prosperity of the colonies in America. He replies,

“That is simple. In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay no one.”

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

I am well aware of that FACT! this is exactly why the FED needs to go NOW! this was done before in America and can be done again! we need to return the power of money creation to the people.

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

Good news ! I am totally with you on that!

Still, I wish you might take a minute to read the link posted, because it will explain how North Dakota (in a limited way) has returned the power of money creation to the people and this is the reason for their healthy economy.

http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/north_dakota.php

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

Utah did something too, they sanctioned Gold and Silver in some way not too sure about it though.

[-] 1 points by RastafariAmerican (141) from Yonkers, NY 13 years ago

Thank you for your dedication.

[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago

agreed, the fed must end.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/corporate-oligarchy/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/thetruth-socialismcapitalismcommunismmarxism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-versus-corporatism/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/no-war/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/help-me-understand/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/capitalism-a-love-story/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/sociology/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/energy-101-solution/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ethics/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/break-your-left-right-conditioning/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/nader-kucinich-and-paul/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/5-facts-you-should-know-about-the-wealthiest-one-p/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-am-homeless-joe-jp-morgan-chase-accidentally-for/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/can-we-end-the-fed/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-end-the-federal-reserve-and-what-do-you-replac/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/where-are-we-and-how-do-we-move-forward/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/things-wall-st-did-were-not-illegal/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/teaching-the-occupation/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-forum-needs-structure/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-is-not-your-personal-billboard-for-your-politi/

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http://occupywallst.org/forum/organize-inform-take-action-effect-change/

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http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-playing-the-devils-games/

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http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-the-bullshit-posts-and-get-organized/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/suggested-goals/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/oct-18-gao/

[-] 1 points by kilroy (58) from Orlando, FL 13 years ago

We need Sovereign Rule over the economy and an elimination of money from the political process.

[-] 1 points by Febs (824) from Plymouth Meeting, PA 13 years ago

End the Fed and stop the ability of the government and any administration to fund wars without raising taxes. Force the real bill of the cost of war to be known and the people will end the wars themselves.

[-] 1 points by AndyfromNewZealand (27) 13 years ago

I sincerely believe, the banking institutions with the issueing power of money are more dangerous to liberty then standing armies - Thomas Jefferson

[-] 1 points by Kruuppe (13) 13 years ago

1764 – Benjamin Franklin is asked by officials of the Bank of England to explain the prosperity of the colonies in America. He replies,

“That is simple. In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay no one.”

http://publiccreditorbust.blog.com/2011/03/27/the-most-needed-document-in-racial-religious-and-political-understanding/

[-] 1 points by Kruuppe (13) 13 years ago

1863 Letter from Rothschilds to prospective US affilliates in New York

Letter to: Messieurs. Iklheimer, Morton and Vandergould, No. 3 Wall St., New York, U.S.A.:

Dear Sirs: A Mr. John Sherman has written us from a town in Ohio, U.S.A., as to the profits that may be made in the National Banking business under a recent act of your Congress (National Bank Act of 1863), a copy of which act accompanied his letter. Apparently this act has been drawn upon the plan formulated here last summer by the British Bankers Association and by that Association recommended to our American friends as one that if enacted into law, would prove highly profitable to the banking fraternity throughout the world.

Mr. Sherman declares that there has never before been such an opportunity for capitalists to accumulate money, as that presented by this act and that the old plan, of State Banks is so unpopular, that the new scheme will, by contrast, be most favorably regarded, notwithstanding the fact that it gives the National Banks an almost absolute control of the National finance. The few who can understand the system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests. Please advise us fully as to this matter and also state whether or not you will be of assistance to us, if we conclude to establish a National Bank in the City of New York… Awaiting your reply, we are.

Your respectful servants. Rothschild Brothers. London, June 25, 1863

Cheers Parksy for your reasearch.

[-] 1 points by Aussiegal (7) 13 years ago

Crikey, they really are the illuminati arn't they!

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

Henry ford said "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." Well tomorrow morning has finally arrived! The wealth of the American People is hidden in Plain sight, I know where it is. From a letter to Michael J. Astrue c/o Office of the Commissioner 6401 Security Boulevard Room 4-C-5 Annex Baltimore, Maryland 21235 Phone: (410) 965-2727 " I am approaching you in your Office a trustee as you are a member of the Social Security Administration, a branch of U.S. Post Office known as the Post Office Management Service Section overseeing the security of the Assets of the United States of America, the peoples assets".

[-] 1 points by amanoftheland (452) from Boston, MA 13 years ago

take away their credit and you take away their power... end of story