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Forum Post: For President

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 16, 2011, 9:38 a.m. EST by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT
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How Long

I wish to announce my candidacy for President. I have but one major platform, and it is thus:

To end the influence of money on politics.

With this in mind, what I propose is to rid America of its corporate influence on politics - where ever it may be found.

Toward that end, we will have a purge.

If elected, you should expect a statistically significant spike in car accidents and heart attacks, resulting in death, occurring among those who would with crass self interest, in the name of greed, destroy our republic.

We will rewrite the tax code, so that it is competitive with nations like Ireland, and corporations will once again pay tax.

Industries of finance, telecommunications, and energy will all become public institutions.

Those who oppose such measures will not survive the purge.

Institutions that are too big to fail, will be broken up into their smallest pieces.

There will be no Keystone XL pipeline - for it is a pipe dream.

Mid level managers of savings and investment institutions who have engaged in fraud will spend ten years in servitude to the public, bound to hard labor, repairing roads and bridges throughout America.

There will be no more speculation on commodities of necessity, for this is a burden that cannot be borne by either the peoples of the third world, or of us, here at home.

The government will institute such fines and order such restitution from the savings and investment sector where appropriate and as may be necessary to recover the economy and to purchase those homes closed by bankruptcy, to be turned over to the homeless throughout the nation, and homelessness shall become a thing of the past.

I will end the War On Drugs - very simply - by identification of those financial resources of drug cartels, stealing them using computer technology, and using that money to shore up the Mexican government and secure their cooperation as the cartels are eliminated by predator drone.

And when the college kids get antsy enough because there is no pot - they will demand their rights to get high with protest, and so prohibition will come to an end.

Oh how I abhor

The Hordes of Lying Whores

Who Prowl the People's Halls of Power

Bearing Gifts in the name of Profit

ZenDog For President!

Bumper stickers will be available to my supporters in the foyer.

Thank you for your support.

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[-] 4 points by hidden (430) from Los Angeles, CA 2 years ago

What if you are just like Obama? Or even worse, a dictator that will terrorize everybody?

Here is an idea: we create a direct democracy on-line voting platform and you sign a document that your presidency is only valid to execute the order of the democracy and nothing else. Any attempt to push any other order or to interfere with the defined operation of the platform directly or indirectly would be considered a violation of the contract and lead to your disqualification as a president.

[-] 4 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

There will be no fly-by of Air Force One over the Statue of Liberty

  • during my reign
[-] 3 points by ARod1993 (2420) 2 years ago

I have to admit that whether this is satirical or not it's a great read and I agree with you as far as getting undue private influence out of the government (mostly money but also things like the regulatory revolving door), actually publicly cracking down on fraud, breaking up corporate monopolies wherever they occur, and placing industries that are natural monopolies in public hands, and providing direct aid to those who were hit the hardest by the crash. Your rhetoric is hilarious, and I look forward to reading more of it.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

<rubbing hands in malicious glee>

oH GOODie!

I've been soo wanting to have a purge !

[-] 1 points by hidden (430) from Los Angeles, CA 2 years ago

That would not be in you power to decide ;)

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago
  • during my reign I said -

The seal of the President of the United States

will not be used as a tool, either by me as President,

or by minions who would oppose my will,

to conduct wholesale intimidation and terror

of the general public.

Such acts of terror as may be necessary

to the good of the people

shall be specifically targeted

at those whose empires of wealth and property

have been used to divide the public

and divvy up the spoils of conflict.

[-] 1 points by norcal45gpw (10) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Damn good idea!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Take action. See samples of how below.

183,361 signatures so far for Bernie Sanders petition as of 10:15am central time 01/15/2012

http://sanders.enews.senate.gov/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=2100081904.557411.411&gen=1&mailing_linkid=34578

The petition to save abandoned houses has 15 signatures. We picked one up at around 9:50pm 01/13/2012. Were just rolling right along.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Savingpeople-savinghomes-payingdowntheNationaldeficit/

Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb

Sierra Club has some good things to take part in as well. Set-up and ready for you to take part in. http://sierraclub.org/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

For those of you just checking in.

Don't forget to petition the Justice Department to start prosecuting the economic criminals. There has to be accountability.

This is why we are here this is why you are needed.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/

Share, circulate, educate, inspire.

See also people from all walks of life, from all over the political map "not" supporting a party or leader or group of leaders but "supporting an Ideal".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Bgqt1YYko

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Mind if I be the fail switch in case that the power corrupted you?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Which it is likely to do, especially after

  • the purge . . . .

I'll probably become all paranoid and chit, dreaming about all of them newly created orphans . . .

I guess. You can be fail safe if you want. I guess that means you get to take me out when the time comes?

Just wash your hands before dinner.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

The corruption that power brings isn't always permanent. Exit counseling should do the job so hire a exit counselor before you become too drunk with power. In case that the exit counselor failed I will start protests that would pressure to you and those around you instead of what you are implying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_counseling

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Interesting - DC as a cult.

LoL!

Unless of course you are suggesting something else - in which case I'm sure all I need is a little pet therapy . . . . I'm sure Miss Dec will do just fine.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

Any chance we can get a picture of you in a Santa hat? I'd be more likely to vote for you then. : ) Just kidding! I'd probably vote for you anyway. But I really would love to see you in a Santa hat! Zen-Santa!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

bah

  • humbug!
[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

lol. I'll just have to use my imagination then.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

yes you will

picture me in a Santa hat, picture me nekkid

I don't care

I ain't postin no more pics

ya got two to choose from - plus a movie!

That'll have to do.

[-] 1 points by April (3196) 2 years ago

Are you sure you want me to go there? Too late. I'm already there. I have a very vivid imagination. Now that is a picture in my imagination worth a thousand words! Except I'm speechless! You really should post that picture. You're not exactly the shy type. You're just being modest. : )

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

LoL

I ain't postin' no more pics I said

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

This is why we are here this is why you are needed.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/

Share, circulate, educate, inspire.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Excellent movie.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It really is. I am trying to push it into going viral. I even sent it off to Barak's campaign site, Food for thought for standing-up for what is right.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

can't hurt - I've been tempting to urge the admin to start asking around for economists from some other philosophical persuasion and employment background -

the guilt by association is overwhelming. I'm sure he has them around simply because they know what has been done and how - and where bodies may be buried I would guess and that knowledge would be useful to the President should he need it -

anywayz. Somehow I don't think they would hear me.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

They might not acknowledge it. But I think they would hear. I think they are beginning to hear and that is one reason attacks on this site have gone up.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I'm not sure if the attacks have actually gone up or if it's the other participation is slacking off.

Don't know.

I'd like to be tracking IPs, and then networking with

ground troops

heehee

I can come up with some evil shit

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It is a tough job but somebody needs to do it.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

LoL!

I dunno - I'm kinda sick and twisted . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Airing out the bad, or venting by another name.

It is what helps us keep from going insane.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

yeah, that's what it is . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That's my story and I'm stickin to it.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I think I'll put you in charge of the Press Office - you'll handle all matters that may negatively impact the administration's reputation or character. You won't be seen in public, but the press sec will answer directly to you.

That means you'll need a big plastic baggy and a scoop . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Would I have to be responsible or accountable or anything?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

yeah-ya

he's famous

he's another famous lying repelican

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

And willing to be the scapegoat, until he realized that he was going to prison. Then he had regrets about falling on his sword.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I don't blame ya.

Can you believe they put that clown on the radio?

There oughtta be a law . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

But I Mean . . . He's like . . . . Famous and all !!!

An idiot but still famous and all.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

contract?

You don't think we'll be putting anything on paper do ya?

It's all about deniability . . . .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I don't want to be another Ollie North.

Don't fall on my sword for anyone but me!

I'm selfish that way.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

not unless you really want to,

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

OK. But could I have that spelled out in the contract?

You know a CMA or CYA dependant on your perspective.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

LOL!

What I ever do to you?

This is why we are here this is why you are needed.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/

Share, circulate, educate, inspire.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

well, you'd be over the press sec - the press sec would report directly to you, as I said.

Yeah-ya.

Nobody will know who you are - and he isn't saying anything.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

OK.

Consider that you twisted my arm. But I want it noted that I was dragged kicking and screaming all the way. But have sworn to do a real good job because that is how I roll.

Because any job you do, do your best, or get a different job.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

that's probably in the ball park of what they actually get paid.

Doesn't seem in the least unreasonable, when you look at the pay execs get - without the bonuses

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

To reflect the ability to be prosperous or at least self sufficient in this economy it is not far off from what an individual should be making, to be able to have a home and support a family.

Besides. Press Secretary? Sounds like an awfully stressful shit eating job.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I can offer you as much as a dollar a year if that will make you happy

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well lets not get carried away now.

How about we split the difference and go with ....... oh...... say ... about $249,999.99. Just so I can still claim modesty.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a quarter million a year - I don't think that will quite get you into the one percent club . . .

unless you decide to buy a Harley or something .. .

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Nope sorry.

Can't accept. Still too much money.

Now if it was poorly paid I could convince myself that I could still protect my soul.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

LoL!

Nuthin - you just seem like a natural at keeping the chit picked up!

; )

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks?

Would I make lots and lots of money so that I would become a newly minted 1%er?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Legally binding social contract!

I wonder if this could be put forward in an oath of office. Not just for the next President. But also for every member of Government and Public office.

Get everyone to swear to support it on pain of dismissal and possible criminal charges for failure of duty.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I like your platform. I think that most with they're eyes open will love it!

Perhaps one addition to the repayment by the criminal element might be a seizure of their ill made money and property. ( sorry if I missed that part, I may have overlooked it in my enthusiasm for supporting the platform )

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (10721) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Thanks to the Patriot Act I see no legal problems with your proposals.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Yes indeed. That is a very interesting point.

[-] 1 points by bill1102inf2 (357) 2 years ago

this is awesome

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Aren't they already getting it anyway?

I'm just proposing a redirect

Such a measure should actually save expenditures at the federal level . . .

[-] 1 points by bill1102inf2 (357) 2 years ago

sorry bro, woke up in a pissed off mood, had coffee

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

hey no sweat.

it is blood money - of that I am well aware.

The only alternative is to simply burn it in my book -

but using it to destroy the authors of all of that bloodshed seems to have a certain Karmic ring to it.

[-] 1 points by bill1102inf2 (357) 2 years ago

if our fed gov was not 100% corrupted, we could also issue non debt backed currency and immediately print 1 Trillion new bills and ban the reimportation/conversion of the drug money in South America(cocaine) and Afghanistan(opium) but since i firmly believe our government is in bed with the drug producers (I guarded opium in afghanistan)......

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

wow - that's no good.

Welcome home by the way . . . .? I mean, you may have been back for a while, I don't know - but in any case, welcome back.

[-] 1 points by bill1102inf2 (357) 2 years ago

thanks bro, been back a few years, feels like yesterday

checking out the ZenDog blog

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I've never served in uniform myself. But I do know well that some chit just stays with ya.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Exactly funnel their own money back at them, and let their public demand proper use, while at the same time eliminating the Government/public USA money being sent there to support anti-drug operations. Let the illegal money support the legal fight. I like it !

[-] 1 points by AllianceForPeace (40) 2 years ago

To do this that you have detailed takes the action of overthrowing the government to start anew! One person cannot change our government because the others there (senators, congressmen and supreme court judicials) will stop you from doing so! Remember JFK he had many plans but others in the government hated his new ideas because it would have given us The People the rights and freedom we deserved. Thus, he was assassinated!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

posh

minor details.

I'm ready!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

boom

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 2 years ago

I don't think you could do any worst. And if you do, i'll fire your ass in four years.

[-] 2 points by divineright (664) 2 years ago

If you do a good job I hope you don't get assassinated! I'm assuming fear of such a scenario is what happened to Obama if he wasn't a complete fraud from the beginning.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I'm absolutely certain historians would view me much more favorably than any bushite that may precede me.

[-] 1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

I'm in.

Just as a reminder, here is what I was promised:

3 br/2ba home, dog, hybrid SUV (for bumper sticker)

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Just as soon as I'm sworn in Big Guy!

LoL!

[-] 1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

no problem, it may take me a bit to decide where I want to live. Have you started a list for the lincoln bedroom yet? I would like dibs.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

well how many votes can you deliver?

[-] 1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

How many votes do I need for say a Thur-Sun stay? (non holiday period)

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

well I duuno.

I'll put together a gray ribbon fact finding commission and we'll be sure to get right back to you on this important issue!

Thank you for your support!

[-] 1 points by fairforall (279) 2 years ago

While you're at it, I would also like access to the BB court if you don't mind and a pic of me on the red phone.

:)

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I'm certain we can accommodate you in all matters.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Of course, I will be voting for the President, but if you are not satisfied with the slate of candidates come election, then by all means, I will be more than happy to entertain both your support and your votes.

And you can find bumper stickers in their usual places.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 2 years ago

Oh, yeah.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

That's it?

Is this all of the enthusiasm you can muster?

I'll let you throw rotten veggies at the bankers chain gangs while they are out on the road crew . . .

. . . all organic veggies of course . . . .

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21783) 2 years ago

That should have been Hell Yeah!!!!! But can we take all of their own screwed up contaminated veggies and throw those?

Actually, there are several components that I love.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

you can throw any kind of veggies you want

now don't forget to vote!

; D

[-] 1 points by TheStop (53) 2 years ago

how would you do any of this?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

it is very simple. A clear demonstration of national security interests will invest human engineers at all levels to employ their methods and forecast the outcomes into the ears of those who may be bent through fear to do our will and so restore the republic to its rightful place at the very pinnacle of power in the whole world.

Those who will not bend will be crushed under the boot heel of random and there will be no evidence to indicate that random isn't random any more, no more than it ever has been or ever will be, either evident or random.

Hence all those who actively oppose public institutions of energy production, telecommunications, and finance, will find themselves as nothing more than another statistic, lodged in some dusty ledger, and their opposition will be no more.

[-] 1 points by TheStop (53) 2 years ago

you think your so great. you want to kill anyone who doesn't agree. That proves the rich are better, at least they aren't wipping out all of the OWS.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

. . . . and it's clickable . . .

Well there I am,

when they get off their ass

I'm sure they know where to find me.

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[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 2 years ago

Offering people what they "need" is simple. Enough food and water will do it, I suppose. It is when we try to give them what they "want" that trouble begins. The "wants" are always greater than the "needs". That's when the two get mixed up.To provide the "wants" of people we need a cheap power source.

The secret (if "secret" is the word) of a comfortable life style, good employment and overall satisfaction, is the availability of cheap power to extract the natural resources from the earth necessary for all of this to come about. Without that cheap power we are relegated to having to be satisfied with much less than we would like.

"The United States possesses 1.4 trillion barrels of recoverable oil, more than the oil the entire world has consumed during the past 150 years, according to an Institute for Energy Research report released last week. Add in an estimated 2.7 quadrillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas and 486.1 billion short tons of recoverable coal, and our energy reserves exceed those of any other nation on Earth. The American economy will not prosper until we get government out of the way and let the private sector power our future using the most efficient sources available. For that to happen, the next administration must reject any redistributionist U.N. treaty designed to soak billions from U.S. taxpayers based on bogus climate claims." --The Washington Times

You, like the weather underground before you had decided that they must murder 20 million Americans who did not totally agree with their idea of a perfect society, want to be the one to decide who gets what; who dies in the process; etc.

Is the angry look and beard supposed to instill fear? Or does it simply hide a weak chin and an empty head? I believe it is the latter. Especially the empty head part. By the way, I agree with Ike when he warned of the dangers of the military/industrial complex. That's FYI only.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

so you think global warming is a hoax?

care to explain why 95 % of the earths glaciers - some of them here in the north western U.S. - are shrinking?

Ever calculate how much water is stored frozen in land based ice, or what will happen to the sea if it melts? It's just math.

Care to explain why a ship that disappeared in 1853 searching for the North West Passage turned up last summer?

Global Warming is here. Repelicans have been lying about it for years.

Over 40 island nations appeared before the U.N. begging for action on global warming - back in 1998.

Why?

  • because they were experiencing the rise in sea level already, and one day soon, they know, their nations will disappear, making them environmental refugees.
[-] 1 points by Budcm (208) 2 years ago

I'm trying to find, in my last statements, where I said I didn't believe in global warming. You have implied that I wrote that. I did not do so. You appear to only believe what you want to be there.

Global warming is a given. It has been warming for at least two hundred years. Ever since the "Little Ice Age" began to decline, and long before the advent of the "excessive use of fossil fuels" was even thought of.

We agree on global warming. We disagree on the cause of it. But, just in case you are right, I also agree that the continued search for a better energy source is a must. I also believe it must be a cheap source. With over seven billion people on the face of this planet, all striving for enough sustenance to survive, a cheap power source is imperative. The consequences of not being able to feed our growing population are staggering.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I'm trying to find, in my last statements, where I said I didn't believe in global warming.

I guess I just took it as a given when you automatically equated me with the Weather Underground and advocated the slaughter of 20 million people. I never would suggest such a thing, simply because I do not believe people such as yourself exist in numbers approaching anywhere near ten thousand.

and long before the advent of the "excessive use of fossil fuels" was even thought of.

In London by 1860 they had burned enough coal to understand most of the chemical makeup of coal emissions. They began thinking in terms of raising their smoke stacks as a way to deal with it.

We disagree on the cause

  • an.thro.po.mor.phic

bull shit. Compare graphs - temp increase/ fossil fuel use

The consequences of not being able to feed our growing population are staggering.

yeah-ya.

Changes in weather patterns combined with a rising sea ensure wide spread population dislocation - environmental refugees - plus food and clean water shortages due to changes in climate. "Bread baskets" will move - north in the case of the U.S.

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[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I guess you will be really really sorry when the chief conservative activist justice of the supreme court administers the oath of office to the President

. . . . again . . . and for the third time, no less . . .

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[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

HeHeHE, I couldn't decide first if it was JJ or Forest Gump when he was on his nation wide run, either way two great movies.

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

Dude, you look like Jeremiah Johnson!!!!! I loved your movie, it's one of my all time favorites.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

LoL!

DooD!

you must be mad!

; D

[-] 0 points by Farleymowat (415) 2 years ago

You look too much like Fidel.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

whatdoesthatmean?

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[-] -1 points by DanMich (49) 2 years ago

No offense but we had one lib Pres Carter and have another lib Obummer. Our Country does not need anymore libtards screwing up the US anymore

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

yeah-ya

you wouldn't like it if I got voted in

I promise

[-] -1 points by danmi (66) 2 years ago

If you think the US can go without oil then that is a "pipe dream" I am not necessarily for the Keystone XL pipeline project but the US must start drilling for oil more at home. We have enough oil in the ground to last over a hundred years. Even some wells that have dried up are replenishing themselves as well. Obummers green energy plan is a total failure but every thing he has tried to do has been a failure. We need to create jobs here in the US and that is the only way our Country will get out of this mess. Weld the gate shut between the US and China

[-] 2 points by Frizzle (520) 2 years ago

You can't possibly find enough oil to keep doing that. It's a limited resource and there is no point in putting more afford into it. The only logical choice is to use renewable energy to it's full potential (solar/wind/geothermal etc) to it's full potential.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

I've seen denials recently, but last I knew we were well past peak oil.

Analysts had expected peak oil production sometime between 2000 and 2010.

we have absolutely got to do something different with regard to energy production, and what is really interesting - though perhaps no big surprise - is that some of the biggest players in the economic collapse are heavily invested in fossil fuel.

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apparently simplesimon has something to add to this discussion, but for some reason was being shy

here simplemind, advocate for natural gas if you like. I don't mind.

[-] 0 points by danmi (66) 2 years ago

I think at the present time it is our best resource and look what happened to Obama's green energy program, the majority of them are now bankrupt. So called "green" energy technology is not fully developed yet to run plants, factories without coal or oil

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20508) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

Only one of them is bankrupt that I have heard . . .

and if elected, under my program of purge,

. . . we will have justice . . .

[-] 1 points by Frizzle (520) 2 years ago

Even if you don't mind the pollution, the simple fact is that it will run out. How good or bad Obama is at it is not really the point.

More important is: can we produce enough energy with renewable alternatives. And there are several studies that show that we could easily do that. The only obstacle are financial reasons. Which in the big scheme of things should not be the determining factor.