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Forum Post: DEAR GOLDMAN SACHS -- Excited to talk with you. So many questions. To make it easier for you, we'll just come to your office at 200 West Street :). See you soon. xoxoxo

Posted 2 years ago on Nov. 15, 2011, 7:56 a.m. EST by therising (6643)
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Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone famously described Goldman Sachs as "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money." Here's the article: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405

We should line up outside Goldman's world headquarters in NYC -- 200 West Street New York, NY 10282 -- (only short walk from Zuccotti Park and Foley Park) and ask for these jobs back that Goldman destroyed...

Reporter: "Why are you here with thousands of protesters demonstrating outside of Goldman Sachs?"

Interviewee: "Protesting Goldman??" I'm looking for a job. Goldman engaged in practices that resulted in the loss of countless jobs in recent years while profiting heavily and giving huge bonuses to its employees. Goldman took a bunch of jobs from our economy. We just want them back. They must be here somewhere so we're here outside the building....waiting to talk to them about the jobs.

Here's another article about Goldman: http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/politics/news/the-people-vs-goldman-sachs-20110511

If you haven't seen the award-winning film "Inside Job" narrated by Matt Damon, be sure to check it out. Impeccably researched and tells the real story behind the economic collapse. It was not an accident. Hard to believe. But it's true.

Did you know that Goldman Sachs cornered the world food commodities market which helped create a situation where 250 million more people became hungry? In one year we went from having 750 million hungry people in the world to 1 billion. One year.

They bet on food and drove up prices so high that hunger went up 25% in one year. See this link for more info: http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-goldman-sachs-owes-250-million-hungry-people-a/ . Foreign Policy Magazine.

Did you know that Goldman Sachs is a major investor in private prisons and has profited enormousliy from the fact that out of every 100 American citizens is in prison?

http://blogs.alternet.org/refugee/tag/private-prisons/

Did you know that Goldman Sachs exploits student debt for profit?

Please see www.care2.com/how-goldman-sachs-exploits-student-debt-for-profit

RECENT NEWS - Reuters -Former Goldman Director surrendered to FBI - insider trading

http://occupywallst.org/forum/breaking-news-from-reuters-ex-goldman-sachs-direct/

Here's one thing we could do to get Congress to properly regulate goliaths: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/

Call or visit your local Goldman office today? For worldwide location, please visit http://www2.goldmansachs.com/who-we-are/

United States Atlanta 3414 Peachtree Road, N.E. Suite 600 Atlanta, GA 30326 Tel: 1-404-846-7200 United States Boston 125 High Street, 17th Floor Boston, MA 02110-2704 Tel: 1-617-204-2000 United States Chicago 71 South Wacker Drive Suite 500 Chicago, IL 60606 Tel: 1-312-655-4600 United States Chicago 440 South LaSalle Streket Suite 1600 Chicago, IL 60605 United States Dallas 100 Crescent Court Suite 1000 Dallas, TX 75201 Tel: 1-214-855-1000 United States Houston 1000 Louisiana Street Suite 550 Houston, TX 77002 Tel: 1-713-654-8400 United States Jersey City 30 Hudson Street Jersey City, NJ 07302-4699 Tel: 1-212-902-1000 United States Los Angeles Fox Plaza Suite 2600 2121 Avenue of the Stars Los Angeles, CA 90067 Tel: 1-310-407-5700 United States Miami 200 South Biscayne Blvd. Suite 3700 Miami, FL 33131 Tel: 1-305-755-1000 * WORLD HEADQUARTERS ------- New York City Goldman, Sachs & Co. 200 West Street New York, NY 10282 United States. Tel: 1-212-902-1000 Tel: 1-212-902-1000 United States Philadelphia Mellon Bank Center 1735 Market Street 26th Floor Philadelphia, PA 19103 Tel: -215-656-7800 United States Princeton 701 Mt. Lucas Road Princeton, NJ 08540 Tel: 1-609-497-5500 United States Salt Lake City 222 South Main Street Salt Lake City, UT 84101 United States Salt Lake City 175 East 400 South, Suites 200 & 300 Salt Lake City, UT 84111 United States Salt Lake City 295 Chipeta Way Salt Lake City, UT 84108 Tel: 1-801-884-1000 United States San Francisco 555 California Street 45th Floor San Francisco, CA 94104 Tel: 1-415-393-7500 United States Seattle 719 2nd Avenue Suite 1300 Seattle, WA 98104 Tel: +1 206 613 5500 United States Tampa 2502 Rocky Point Drive Suite 500 Tampa, FL 33607 Tel: 1-813-288-7500 United States Washington, D.C. 101 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Suite 1000 East Washington D.C. 20001 Tel: 1-202-637-3700 United States West Palm Beach Goldman, Sachs & Co. 777 South Flagler Suite 1200 - East Tower West Palm Beach, Fl 33401 Tel: 1-561-650-1600

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[-] 3 points by Daytrader (3) from Jersey City, NJ 2 years ago

Just a quick idea: Why don't you get some of the quants (quantitative analysts) to explain in plain English the following points:

  • leveraging

  • derivatives (CDOs, CDSs)

  • how derivatives are created and how underlying assets can be manipulated

  • the parallels between the European debt crises and the housing bubble in the U.S.

  • Goldman's involvement in Greek government bonds

  • how pension funds are gutted

Points to use: many of the quants have maths/science degrees/doctorates. In their early years they were dedicated to research and the advancement of humanity through science. They were hijacked by the financial "industry" because the large investment banks simply had no talent to devise the complicated instruments that are needed to exploit every single tiny move in the markets. If you can convince these people to:

  • Come forward and tell the full story to the world in a relatively easy-to-understand manner

and

  • Realize that their masters can not stay in control forever and the earlier they abandon ship the more chance they will have to re-establish themselves as true leaders (not background manipulators) of society

then you would probably achieve the biggest breakthrough of your movement and possibly really loosen the stranglehold of finance.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

I'm definitely listening. Keeping in mind that I personally am not an expert in this field, what would you say are specific next steps if the OWS movement were to pursue this powerful strategy?

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4458) 2 years ago

Hi therising, Excellent. Best Regards, Nevada

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Thanks Nevada1.

[-] 3 points by OurTimes2011 (377) from Arlington, VA 2 years ago

Outstanding! Let's get this going. You may have taken the Park for now. We will see you at your office....

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Ha! Rockin roll. Tell twenty people and ask them to tell twenty also.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

The people, united, will never be defeated.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Who do the police work for?

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

The people are rising....

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[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Excited to see you Goldman xoxoxo

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Have you called Goldman Sachs today?

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

This is an accountability moment for Goldman Sachs.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Spread the word ...

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

It's a perfect day for a stroll.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Let's demand Goldman be held accountable.

[-] 1 points by OurTimes2011 (377) from Arlington, VA 2 years ago

Right on!

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Cheers!

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

We are nonviolent. Anyone who advocates violence or destruction is not a part of this movement.

But we can be active and nonviolent. Civil disobedience has a long proud tradition. Goldman Sachs has a REALLY comfortable lobby to SIT IN.....

[-] 1 points by roscoesdad27 (106) from Aberdeen, MD 2 years ago

I'm with you on the we are the 100% thing but even the Prince of peace advocates forceful rebellion if need be in a very similiar situation....

These temple money-changers not only conducted a regular banking business for profit in the exchange of more than twenty sorts of money which the visiting pilgrims would periodically bring to Jerusalem, but they also engaged in all other kinds of transactions pertaining to the banking business. Both the temple treasury and the temple rulers profited tremendously from these commercial activities. It was not uncommon for the temple treasury to hold upwards of ten million dollars while the common people languished in poverty and continued to pay these unjust levies....Urantia book 173:1.4

To the amazement of his apostles, standing near at hand, who refrained from participation in what so soon followed, Jesus stepped down from the teaching platform and, going over to the lad who was driving the cattle through the court, took from him his whip of cords and swiftly drove the animals from the temple. But that was not all; he strode majestically before the wondering gaze of the thousands assembled in the temple court to the farthest cattle pen and proceeded to open the gates of every stall and to drive out the imprisoned animals. By this time the assembled pilgrims were electrified, and with uproarious shouting they moved toward the bazaars and began to overturn the tables of the money-changers. In less than five minutes all commerce had been swept from the temple. By the time the near-by Roman guards had appeared on the scene, all was quiet, and the crowds had become orderly; Jesus, returning to the speaker's stand, spoke to the multitude: "You have this day witnessed that which is written in the Scriptures: `My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations, but you have made it a den of robbers.'"....Urantia book 173:1.7

This cleansing of the temple discloses the Master's attitude toward commercializing the practices of religion as well as his detestation of all forms of unfairness and profiteering at the expense of the poor and the unlearned. This episode also demonstrates that Jesus did not look with approval upon the refusal to employ force to protect the majority of any given human group against the unfair and enslaving practices of unjust minorities who may be able to entrench themselves behind political, financial, or ecclesiastical power. Shrewd, wicked, and designing men are not to be permitted to organize themselves for the exploitation and oppression of those who, because of their idealism, are not disposed to resort to force for self-protection or for the furtherance of their laudable life projects....Urantia book 173:1.11

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

So why were King and Gandhi so successful? The power structure KNOWS what to do with violence. They're praying for Occupy Wall Street violence in the boardrooms and country clubs. I've heard them first hand. But nonviolent direct action befuddles them. Read your King and Gandhi. Watch the film Gandhi. See how they did it. See the power of nonviolence.

[-] 1 points by roscoesdad27 (106) from Aberdeen, MD 2 years ago

They're both among my heroes and are ultimately correct but they was FAR ahead of their tome on this yet savage planet....considering the current state of both of their peoples they wasn't too successful.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=qlPY9AfQFqI

the American and French revolutions on the other hand brought fundamental change.

[-] 1 points by KahnII (170) 2 years ago

I got a better idea, go inside the place and tear it up top to bottom. DIRECT ACTION gets people's attention, lines of people singing kum-by-ya get ignored.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

No. We are nonviolent.

[-] 1 points by KahnII (170) 2 years ago

Then you'll never get anything done. Unless you have a consequence that's worse than those you're protesting meeting your demands, you'll never get anywhere.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 2 years ago

There are some very concrete ways of getting their attention without alienating the general public. They have insurance to cover losses to property. We have only our name.

As a private citizen you can do whatever you want to do - no one at OWS is going to attempt to control you. We are not going to think for you.

Nor can we, as a non-violent movement, allow you to dictate to us how the general public perceives us.

There is consensus, at least at the Burlington, Vermont, GA meetings, that we are a non-violent organization.

Don't think that means we will be anything less than victorious in this struggle - that would be to underestimate the power and determination of the American people.

Here - try these ideas, and see if any of them resonate:

.

-- On Civil Disobedience and Direct Action . . . . November 12, 2008

http://occupywallst.org/forum/on-civil-disobedience-and-direct-action/

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-- It has been said we should take up arms . . . . November 12, 2011

http://occupywallst.org/forum/it-has-been-said-we-should-take-up-arms/

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-- Direct Action - Proposal before the committee: A Demonstration of Tongues . . . . Nov. 13, 2011

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/direct-action-proposal-before-the-committee-a-demo/

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-- Trending on Twitter - Corporations Have No Tongues . . . . Nov. 13, 2011

http://occupywallst.org/forum/-_-trending-on-twitter-corporations-have-no-tongue/

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-- Targeted Interdiction - What is it? . . . . Nov. 14, 2011

http://occupywallst.org/forum/targeted-interdiction-what-is-it/

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. -- Targeted Interdiction and Subversion of Institutions - WTF? . . . . Nov. 15, 2011

http://occupywallst.org/forum/-targeted-interdiction-and-subversion-of-instituti/

.

If you find these ideas have merit, pass them on.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Wrong. Look at King and Gandhi movements.

[-] 1 points by roscoesdad27 (106) from Aberdeen, MD 2 years ago

They are both my heroes and their ideals are ultimately correct but not realistic on this yet savage planet....one day we will evolve to the point where the beautiful teachings of the 2 aforementioned saints is practical.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=5b6kf5PIzX4

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/64

http://www.real-factsabout-india.com/poverty-in-india.html

their missions wernt directly political and needs to quit being observed as such. They were first and foremost messengers of the good news, anything they accomplshed politically was indirect....their non violent methods are ideal but impractical, it will lead to an illusion of victory.

[-] 0 points by KahnII (170) 2 years ago

You don't have enough people. King had the backing of Johnson and the republicans in congress, you don't have that support.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

40 % or more of American public support the movement. CBS News and Time polls don't lie.

[-] 0 points by KahnII (170) 2 years ago

No, 40% disapprove of the bankers and politicians, they don't support the Marxist shit being spewed.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

That's not what the pols said. PS - You sound like Senator McCarthy.

[-] 1 points by Happierbanker (23) 2 years ago

It's over. The people, police, and courts have had enough. Buh-Bye Occupy!

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Ha! I'm printing and framing this comment by Happierbanker because it's the funniest and most deluded thing I've ever read on this forum. I'll look at it each time the movement doubles in size. Can you count to 100,000,000 people HappierBanker?

[-] 1 points by Happierbanker (23) 2 years ago

Ok. It's your fairy tale. Write whatever ending you want.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Time to rise and shine America!

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

Time to shine a light on Goldman Sachs, one of the big firms that help bring our economy to its knees and us to our feet.