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Posted 9 years ago on April 3, 2015, 12:54 p.m. EST by Nevada1 (5843)
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2 Hero EMTs Take On 4 Cops To Stop Abusehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYPWp08lzGk

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[-] 8 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Now, ''A tale of two killings: what happened when Idaho police shot a dog and a pregnant woman in one day'' - http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/03/idaho-police-shootings-jeanetta-riley-justice-for-arfee -I defy anyone to read that without feeling that there is something very wrong with US mental heath provision, easy-gun-pulling militarized cops (ex-military?) and what it says when we value animals above humans? Good video and 'Anonymous' is featured in the article too! RIP Jeanetta Riley, oh and (B)Arfee too! Have they got their ''Own Private Idaho'' up there or something? But your video, suggests otherwise!

[-] 7 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Capitalism has created such competition amongst us that we fear one another and it is easier to love our dogs rather than our fellow humans. It is truly sad. I feel for the dog, but I feel much more for Jeanetta Riley.

And, the conquering, colonising and movement of native peoples onto small swaths of their native lands has obviously left a legacy that is not very healthy for them. This is true the world round. It's all shameful, really.

[-] 8 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Wait for the blind defence of Police to start from racist s-o-b's on Twitter, after the USA's latest... sick murder! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21T2F5WFPAw and - Black Lives Matter!

RIP Walter Scott :-( Your Murder By Police comes after Anthony Ray Hinton's Miscarriage Of Justice and so please also consider... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-32200813

"If there wasn't a video, would we know the truth?" asked Anthony Scott, brother of Walter Scott [RIP] and by the way... The Original Police Story, given to the media, Was A Total Fkn Lie!

[-] 7 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

And, Eric Harris, RIP:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/238566-video-shows-eric-harris-shooting-in-okla

And, Mario Valencia, alive, but hit purposefully by a cop car:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/14/us/arizona-police-run-over-suspect/#

Silly me, I always thought people were innocent until proven guilty and that they had a right to a fair trial. Kind of like the United States' drone attacks abroad where we just kill people, even innocent children, just because we say we are afraid.

This whole business of justifying the elimination of fairness and justice through the ruse of FEAR must end now.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

As if a dying man's last word's of ''I'm losing my breath'' after being shot at near point blank range - were not bad enough, the very last words that Cop-Murdered, Eric Harris heard as his life ebbed away, with a cop's knee pressing on his head and neck, were - ''F*ck Your breath''! Unbelievable... without that video!

Furthermore, Eric Harris was killed ''in error'' by a 73 year old, insurance brokerage owner, who was a donor to Sheriff's Dept., before becoming a ''Volunteer Reservist'' - in other words.. by a 'Pay-To-Play-Part-timer'! How long and where else in the US - has this been going on and just wtf is that all about?

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/13/us/tulsa-shooting-robert-bates-volunteer-deputy/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/17/oakley-michigan-pay-to-play-police

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/13/tulsa-police-shooting-eric-harris-district-attorney-weighs-charges

Running over people; shooting them in the back; beating while already apprehended; fabricating details, evidence and reports; the racism + homicidal attitude to some categories of suspects: it all has to stop!

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

And now, Freddie Gray, RIP, the man whose neck was broken while in police custody and who died 7 days later.

The anger at the protests in Baltimore tonight is palpable through my t.v. set. I wish I had an answer on how to end all of this, but I think it's a complete ethos change that America needs toward one of less materialism and competition and fear and towards more spirituality, acceptance and love.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Sadly Freddie Gray (RIP) wasn't the only PD-Paralyzed person, as this video shows -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_SSGa7-6BQ and also read this follow up item...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-jeff-hood/the-lynching-of-sureshbha_b_6675652.html

I think that it's now very probable - that too many cops are ex-military or have been over-militarized and especially see people of colour as somehow the ''enemy''. I wonder how many US cops are themselves possible military PTSD victims and IF they could talk about it truthfully. The mind boggles to be honest.

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"The assault of Sureshbhai Patel occurred on February 6, 2015. Patel, a 57-year-old Indian national who was visiting his son in Madison, Alabama, U.S., was seriously injured after being detained by multiple police officers in a residential neighborhood. Patel had police called on him for alleged suspicious behavior in the neighborhood and did not know how to speak English. There is video footage of the officer slamming Patel to the ground. He had to be hospitalized and is partially paralyzed as a result of the injuries. The incident led to many accusations by citizens of police brutality and prompted a response from the Indian government. The incident was recorded on film by two police car dashboard cameras."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sureshbhai_Patel

https://www.google.com/search?q=Sureshbhai+Patel&biw=1366&bih=610&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=eX45VeqgFcTWsAXu7YGIAw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg

I remember this case. Disgusting. How absolutely embarrassing for America. And, how friggin' ignorant are we as a people 1. for having such idiotic, intolerant, uneducated, insular people for cops and 2. for allowing this kind of thing to keep happening over and over and over.

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Ex-cop who paralyzed Indian grandfather pleads not guilty'' ... http://rt.com/usa/252125-cop-indian-paralyze-trial/ and for how it was reported in India - http://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/ex-officer-pleads-not-guilty-in-confrontation-with-sureshbhai-patel/article_f6b86b26-e93a-11e4-8d4a-4b399c78fda0.html - So the question arises how and when did the psycho-cop, become ''ex-cop''?!

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Right, they don't mention how he became an EX-cop, but let's be glad he did, at a minimum.

This shines a light also on how America treats human beings as a whole. No health insurance because here in America treatment of health is not a service, like it is in the UK, it's an insured thing here. You have to have "insurance" and you better have money to pay for it because most jobs don't offer it anymore and Obamacare is not cheap!

Of course Mr. Patel did not have "insurance." He was a freaking visitor! Thank god for good and generous people who crowd funded his care. But, why is it that we don't care for the health of our citizens or visitors? Aren't the nations' citizens it's very greatest asset? Don't we want people to come and visit?

I often wonder what is so great about this country where we beat people to a pulp for not speaking English and for walking down the street in an "affluent" neighborhood (probably a lot of rich wannabees, conservative types live there). OMG, a man who doesn't look like me is walking down the street! Quick, call the cops! Ignorant idiots!!!

How do we look the world in the face with this kind of behavior. We point the finger in accusation of human rights at other nations all the time, yet here we are, creating absolute shame for ourselves.

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Rising Police Aggression A Telling Indicator Of Our Societal Decline - A historially common marker of failing civilizations'' By Chris Martenson -(in compliment of your sincere and heartfelt comment above)..

http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/92427/rising-police-aggression-telling-indicator-our-societal-decline

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

is police aggression rising ?

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Police violence has always been a fact of life in African-American and Native American communities but your question has real value and certainly the opportunity to F, F, Film The Police has hugely increased! PD violence is a HUGE issue really and please see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_SSGa7-6BQ

[-] 3 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Orioles' John Angelos on how the system is failing Baltimore I saw this a little while ago on PBS, and was very impressed. We need politicians like him.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/orioles-john-angelos-system-failing-baltimore/

Edit; Here he has more to say through a series of tweets.

http://nesn.com/2015/04/orioles-vp-john-angelos-responds-to-baltimore-protests-in- passionate-tweets/

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

So "What is AntiFa? A look at the movement Trump is blaming for violence at protests" by Eric Tucker of 'Associated Press':

While I do not strictly agree with everything in this article, nevertheless it has many important insights.

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Black Man vs. White Man Carrying AR-15 Legally''

Video - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41889.htm

What happens when a white guy walks down the street with a AR-15 versus what also happens when a black guy walks down the street with same gun and same laws. Thanks for your interesting links. I am not sure how long we'll all be able to share such information on this forum but we persevere for The 99% as best we can in the face of The Totalitarian Tinpot Tyranny, that is now prevailing here at the moment.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Atlanta was a Constitution-Free Zone during 'Stop Cop City' Week of Action" Candice Bernd:

"Pressure mounting against the planned police training center after a week of unprecedented police repression."

fiat lux et fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"The day Philadelphia bombed its own people"! by Lindsey Norward:

"An oral history of a 1985 police bombing that changed the city forever.

"As the smoke rose from 6221 Osage Avenue, Philadelphia residents watched through their windows & television screens in a state of stunned disbelief. Their city had just bombed its own people.

"On the evening of May 13 - 1985, longstanding tensions between MOVE, a black liberation group, and the Philadelphia PD erupted horrifically. That night .. the City of Philadelphia dropped a satchel bomb, a demolition device typically used in combat, laced with Tovex/C-4 explosives on the 'MOVE' organization, who were living in a West Philadelphia rowhome known to be occupied by men, women, and children. It went up in unextinguished flames. Eleven people were killed .. including five children and the founder of the organization. Sixty-one homes were destroyed, and more than 250 citizens were left homeless." &...

fiat lux et fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Consider, "Kyle Rittenhouse Has Gotten Away With Murder - As Predicted"! ... by Elie Mystal:

"Rittenhouse’s acquittal is not a 'miscarriage' of justice, as some might claim. It is our white justice system working as intended."

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"In City After City, Police Mishandled Black Lives Matter Protests"! ... by Kim Barker, Mike Baker and Ali Watkins:

"Inquiries into law enforcement’s handling of the George Floyd protests last summer found insufficient training and militarized responses — a widespread failure in policing nationwide." A revealing read tbh.

pro bono publico?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Black Civil Rights Leaders Fear Barrett - “Invites a Return to a Racist Past”!" ... by Mike Ludwig:

"Leaders of Five Prominent Organizations agreed that Amy Coney Barrett .. was alarmingly evasive on questions about racism"!

uh-oh!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Breonna Taylor Killing - Only One Police Officer Facing Criminal Charges"!!! ... by Chris Walker:

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

So, "white supremacists in law enforcement ... must be treated as a matter of urgent concern. As Professor Johnson has argued, The Criminal Justice System .. “can never achieve its purported goal of fairness while white supremacists continue to hide within police departments”!" - from ...

omg!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"How Police Became Paramilitaries" ... by Michael Shank:

"Military might has always paraded in America’s streets. But it wasn’t until this century that it became an often daily presence. In the 2000s, local law enforcement agencies began to adopt the type of military equipment more frequently used in a war zone: everything from armored personnel carriers and tanks, with 360-degree rotating machine gun turrets, to grenade launchers, drones, assault weapons, and more. Today, billions of dollars’ worth of military equipment—most used, some new—has been transferred to civilian police departments. As the ACLU has documented, this has led to the militarization of American policing.

"It is now commonplace to see a Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected vehicle, or MRAP, respond to the protests in Minneapolis, Seattle, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia. MRAPs resemble Humvees but are even larger, more heavily armored—and more intimidating. Many police forces acquired them free-of-charge from the Pentagon as part of a program established by the National Defense Authorization Act under President Clinton that transfers surplus equipment—or “excess property,” as it’s called—from combat deployments to police departments across the US.

"This Defense Department initiative, known as the 1033 program, requires that law enforcement agencies make use of such equipment within a year of acquisition, effectively mandating that police put it into practice in the public space. The Department of Homeland Security also has a terrorism grant program that has given tens of billions of taxpayer dollars to local police forces to purchase military equipment directly."

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

WARNING: Cold Blooded Murder! Shocking - And No Word of a Lie!

The poor mental health provision in US is a road to prison or even worse!

The pre-meditated nature of the extreme cop violence is just unbelievable.

fiat justitia ruat caelum! ...

[-] 2 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Replying here.The two tier justice system extends a lot further than race. As we both know the criminal elite have kept their jobs after having caused a huge amount of suffering to people all over the World, and they often get bonuses too. This is happening, simultaneously while we sentence people, young people in particular... to spend years in prison for a crime, that caused far less hurt, often none besides themselves hence no other victim.

Especially considering the fact that John Angelos is a 1 per center, it makes his thoughtful statement on the unrest in Baltimore that much more poignant. On another note, I remember living (3 months) in Baltimore years ago. You could always tell when McCormick ran cinnamon. For blocks you could smell that neat spice. And in contrast... on the other side of Baltimore from the up rising... going to an Oriole game at the old ball park (before Camden Yards) which I thought was beautiful park. And the elegant colonial homes nearby with well manicured lawns and forsithia bushes in bloom all over the place. Luckily there was one place, near the Peabody Conservatory of Music (part of John Hopkins) that served people beer if you were close to 21! I was close enough for them! That's where National Bohemian (Natty Bo) was thrust upon me. I was a willing participant though. ;)

I guess my point is the contrasts in that city are stark and that difference can be seen in New York state too, and in particular the Hudson River Valley, which Angelos mentions. Many of those towns were once thriving communities. Now the feeling of desperation is palpable... businesses boarded up, homes run down as the oligarchs have sent the good jobs overseas, always chasing the lowest cost of production, and people be damned.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''US 'Original Sin' and the 2016 Presidential Election'': http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30819-us-original-sin-and-the-2016-presidential-election - in compliment of your ''Natty Bo'' reminisces ;-) + see http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30843-baltimore-prosecutor-mosby-i-m-just-doing-my-job - (Video) Thanks for a thoughtful and interesting comment that reaffirms my faith in this STILL EXTANT forum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

The Pro-Zionist Apartheid, Antidefamation League, ADL - considered scrapping its US Police Training Trips to Israel! Decided not to!! So wTf is the ADL doing with American Police training to begin with?!!!

"After defending the programs at the height of 2020 anti-brutality protests - the anti-racism organization is now admitting that an internal memo questioned their ethicality"!!

e tenebris lux?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"“Defund Police” Doesn’t Mean Hire Private Guns — But Cities Are Doing Just That" - by Candice Bernd:

"Cities are increasingly relying on Private Security amid national uprisings over racist police-perpetrated violence."

CAVEAT!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Leaked Police Bodycam Footage shows moment-by-moment arrest of George Floyd for the first time", by Martin Gould:

Note :"The terror on his face when officer points gun at his head, sobbing before he's shoved into squad car and begging to breathe as his life drains away. WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT!"

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23824) 3 years ago

R.I.P and justice, George Floyd.

October 14, 1973 - May 25, 2020

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Please consider: "The Double Terror of Being Black in America"! .. by Professor Ibram X. Kendi:

Note: "Structural racism killed Black people in east Buffalo, and then a gunman killed the survivors"!

Also: "The most diabolical of all racist ideas operating today—the theory reaching the very depths of denialism, the theory that replaces reality perhaps more than any other—is the “Great Replacement” theory, or GRT, a white-supremacist conspiracy theory cited in a screed linked to the Buffalo shooter.

"But the versions of GRT have also been spread by Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, and many other powerful political and media figures in the United States today.

"GRT denies the greatest white privilege: life itself. It denies the greatest Black deprivation: life itself."

And: "Imagine how much a white supremacist has to replace reality in order to believe that white people—who remain on the higher end of nearly every racial disparity—are being killed off, that they are being replaced, that they are being harmed, and that to protect themselves, they need to attack the very Black people who are actually on the lower end of nearly every racial disparity. The Great Replacement theory wholly replaces reality, presenting the dying as the living, and the living as the dying."

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Nothing Has Changed Since George Floyd Died, US Cops Still Kill Someone Every 8 Hours"! by Matt Agorist:

From which, this ---- "It has been nearly two years since Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd. At the time, Floyd’s death would set off massive protests across the country as politicians and political pundits played lip service to Black Lives Matter and others .. as they offered up their hollow support. Illustrating the extremely hollow nature of their “support” is the fact that despite all the appeals to their emotion,the toothless “reform” bills, and incessant gaslighting — absolutely nothing has changed.

"As the fourth month of 2022 begins, American cops are keeping to their deadly numbers like clockwork. One quarter of the year is over and cops have killed more than 250 people - right on track with previous years. This number is now set to increase by one, on average, every 8 hours, every single day, of every single week, of every single month, of every single year."

fiat lux et fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Re. "Police “Execution” of Andrew Brown":

deja vu?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Derek Chauvin has been found guilty on all counts: second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder & second-degree manslaughter in the killing of George Floyd." From this tweet by 'Star Tribune':

fiat justitia ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Calling Chauvin a “Bad Apple” .. Denies Systemic Nature of Racist Police Violence"! by Marjorie Cohn:

1st link ends with .... "As Chauvin’s trial continues, we must remember that this is not simply the story of one “rogue cop.” It is a window into the anti-Black violence perpetrated routinely by police in this country, as part of a brutal and racist system." Ergo see 2nd link for longer term solutions to the USA's problems.

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Minneapolis promised change after George Floyd .. instead it geared up for war"! by Akin Olla:

alea iacta est?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Protests Erupt After Wisconsin Police Shoot Unarmed Black Man 7 Times" by Chris Walker:

respice; adspice; prospice ... et fiat justitia!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

Here's a suggestion to the Blacks who have an anger-management issue. The Irish had quite a lousy reputation before ( people from Ire-land were full of Ire ! right ? ) but that has been greatly improved over the years. They stopped protecting criminals and cooperated with the police in catching them.

If only the Afghanis were more culturally literate and had turned over or cooperated with the U.S. in catching bin Laden, decades of war and destruction to Afghanistan would have been avoided altogether. Was Islamic custom triumphant in protecting bin Laden from being caught and put on trial in the U.S. ? Was it worthwhile to fight twenty years ?

Many people in the U.S. police forces are now of Irish ethnicity. I consider that as a rehabilitation of Irish reputation. My decades of experience living in the U.S. since the 1970s showed that many young Black males had an anger-management issue going. They preyed a lot upon Asians. My parental family's record in the Greater New York City area was at least 90 to 95% of the perpetrators of robberies, assault-and-battery, larcenies, grand larcenies, threat-to-cause-bodily-harm, damaging properties, etc. were undoubtedly Blacks, with the remainder perhaps being Latinx ( a bit lighter-skinned so maybe not "entirely Black." U.S. Blacks are about 25% genetically White so Africans often find it strange that U.S. Blacks aren't black.) Blacks got uppity and attacked Asians when they gained political power ( N.Y.C. Mayor Dinkins' [Black ! surprised ?] administration had the worst crime record in my parental family's memories; my Mom lost most of her teeth after she was pushed/thrown down a flight of concrete stairs in the subway by three Black males; as for me being robbed, it was also three Black males who did it. One, Two, Three ) in the U.S. I'm not really surprised that security matters didn't change much at all because we have got Black Power.

I disliked hearing the N-word amongst some Whites' talks once I had realized what it was intended to mean. I understand that it's "just an expressive way to enable instantaneous recognition and understanding of the mood of the communication between peer Whites" but why not be safer in wording to avoid being cancelled because some others who have anger-management issue may take offense ? The N-word's being uttered could also be interpreted to mean that the Whites didn't feel alarmed by my "Colored People's" presence. I was innocuous. I generally brushed it right off if an elderly person said "Colored" because I knew that it was common in the olden days' vernacular. ( e.g. N.A.A.C.P. has "C.P." meaning "Colored Peoples" so contraction is a way to hide anachronism; similarly, the company my paternal Grandpa was directing its logistics in Ningpo/Ningbo such as verifying bacalao { a probable Portuguese invention; another one, egg tart, is my favorite } export shipments to Hong Kong and northern/southwestern Europe, is now known as P&O with the "O" meaning "Orient" which is Eurocentric so using "Orient" fell into disfavor; the "P" stands for the [Iberian] Peninsula; keeping the full name would certainly invoke the imperialistic global feeling of the British Empire and it's such a well-known company already that P&O suffices ) Some people changed with the main stream but other people didn't so why should I be bothered by it ? Maybe my attitude arose from my complicated linguistic background: different individuals including my immediate family members called the same thing by different names and it was the everyday norm to me. What's the big deal about someone using yet another name if the intention behind it wasn't to aggravate or irritate ? Of course, if the relationship involves close cooperation, we'd better come up with mutually comprehensible names for the things. "Look ! Spender," said the kid to the babysitter with an accent. They called a spider a spender but only between them so it's just another "dialect."

My Big Brother, for example, had told me when I first arrived in Manhattan that being called "Ching" was offensive to people of Chinese descent because it's meant to be derogatory. Well, to me it was just an old transliteration of the name of a defunct dynasty. Being of Chinese ethnicity, am I supposed to take offense at that ? To me, it's like water rolling off an otter's fur -- No Big Deal. I don't control what people say but I do control my reaction to it. Showing no reaction is boring to the initiator.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

No. The media coverage is far more widespread. Some still blame our mulatto President (yeah, right?) but it has long been simmering. When does it boil over? From time to time and it is anyone's guess.

Rodney King's beating was decades ago sparking LA riots. It was sparked by a video, too. The widespread availability of camera and video smartphones just captured the images of far more incidents. Social media also contribute much to the spread of the knowledge of police aggression.

I have an unorthodox interpretation of why the goddess of justice was blindfolded: to prevent her from watching the awful videos, surely shocking to a lady.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

thanks

[-] 3 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Another probability is that the banksters want to stick their sausage fingers on their side of the balance without the blindfolded lady seeing them when being weighed for justice.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Here's a suggestion to the" Racist Scum like U gripes - Fk Off with your racist b-s!!! Your, "first person singular" narcissism; your racist relatives and your UTTER failure to reference anything other than your own personal prejudices - single U out on this forum as the rancid, racist, reactionary retard that U are!! AND U are STILL spewing the U$A's RW MSM's lies about the Illegal Wars on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen et al, U stupid bastard! Ergo, for the standing record,

And from Hedge's article: "We know who our most recent war criminals are, among others: George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, General Ricardo Sanchez, former CIA Director George Tenet, former Asst. Atty. Gen. Jay Bybee, former Dep. Asst. Atty. Gen. John Yoo, who set up the legal framework to authorize torture; the helicopter pilots who gunned down civilians, including two Reuters journalists, in the “Collateral Murder” video released by WikiLeaks. We have evidence of the crimes they committed.

"But, like Putin’s Russia, those who expose these crimes are silenced and persecuted. Julian Assange, even though he is not a US citizen and his WikiLeaks site is not a US-based publication, is charged under the US Espionage Act for making public numerous US war crimes. Assange, currently housed in a high security prison in London, is fighting a losing battle in the British courts to block his extradition to the United States, where he faces 175 years in prison.

"One set of rules for Russia, another set of rules for the United States. Weeping crocodile tears for the Russian media, which is being heavily censored by Putin, while ignoring the plight of the most important publisher of our generation speaks volumes about how much the ruling class cares about press freedom and truth.

"If we demand justice for Ukrainians, as we should, we must also demand justice for the one million people killed — 400,000 of whom were noncombatants — by our invasions, occupations and aerial assaults in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan.

"We must demand justice for those who were wounded, became sick or died because we destroyed hospitals and infrastructure. We must demand justice for the thousands of soldiers and marines who were killed, and many more who were wounded and are living with lifelong disabilities, in wars launched and sustained on lies. We must demand justice for the 38 million people who have been displaced or become refugees in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, the Philippines, Libya, and Syria, a number that exceeds the total of all those displaced in all wars since 1900, apart from World War II, according to the Watson Institute for International & Public Affairs at Brown University.

"Tens of millions of people, who had no connection with the attacks of 9/11, were killed, wounded, lost their homes, and saw their lives and their families destroyed because of our war crimes. Who will cry out for them?

"Every effort to hold our war criminals accountable has been rebuffed by Congress, by the courts, by the media and by the two ruling political parties. The Center for Constitutional Rights, blocked from bringing cases in US courts against the architects of these preemptive wars, which are defined by post-Nuremberg laws as “criminal wars of aggression,” filed motions in German courts to hold US leaders to account for gross violations of the Geneva Convention, including the sanctioning of torture in black sites such as Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib.

"Those who have the power to enforce the rule of law, to hold our war criminals to account, to atone for our war crimes, direct their moral outrage exclusively at Putin’s Russia. “Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime,” Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said, condemning Russia for attacking civilian sites, including a hospital, three schools and a boarding school for visually impaired children in the Luhansk region of Ukraine. “These incidents join a long list of attacks on civilian, not military locations, across Ukraine,” he said. Beth Van Schaack, an ambassador-at-large for global criminal justice, will direct the effort at the State Department, Blinkin said, to “help international efforts to investigate war crimes and hold those responsible accountable.”

"This collective hypocrisy, based on the lies we tell ourselves about ourselves, is accompanied by massive arms shipments to Ukraine. Fuelling proxy wars was a specialty of the Cold War. We have returned to the script. If Ukrainians are heroic resistance fighters, what about Iraqis and Afghans, who fought as valiantly and as doggedly against a foreign power that was every bit as savage as Russia?

"Why weren’t they lionized? Why weren’t sanctions imposed on the United States? Why weren’t those who defended their countries from foreign invasion in the Middle East, including Palestinians under Israeli occupation, also provided with thousands of anti-tank weapons, anti-armor weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, helicopters, Switchblade or “Kamikaze” drones, hundreds of Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Javelin anti-tank missiles, machine guns and millions of rounds of ammunition? Why didn’t Congress rush through a $13.6 billion package to provide military and humanitarian assistance, on top of the $1.2 billion already provided to the Ukrainian military, for them?

"Well, we know why. Our war crimes don’t count, and neither do the victims of our war crimes. And this hypocrisy makes a rules-based world, one that abides by international law, impossible.

This hypocrisy is not new. There is no moral difference between the saturation bombing the US carried out on civilian populations since World War II, including in Vietnam and Iraq, and the targeting of urban centers by Russia in Ukraine or the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. Mass death and fireballs on a city skyline are the calling cards we have left across the globe for decades.

"The deliberate targeting of civilians, whether in Baghdad, Kyiv, Gaza, or New York City, are all war crimes. The killing of at least 112 Ukranian children, as of March 19, is an atrocity, but so is the killing of 551 Palestinian children during Israel’s 2014 military assault on Gaza. So is the killing of 230,000 people over the past seven years in Yemen from Saudi bombing campaigns and blocades that have resulted in mass starvation and cholera epidemics. Where were the calls for a no-fly zone over Gaza and Yemen? Imagine how many lives could have been saved.

"The mass slaughter of industrial warfare, the failure to hold ourselves to account, to see our own face in the war criminals we condemn, will have ominous consequences.

"Author and Holocaust survivor Primo Levi understood that the annihilation of the humanity of others is prerequisite for their physical annihilation. We have become captives to our machines of industrial death. Politicians and generals wield their destructive fury as if they were toys.

"Those who decry the madness, who demand the rule of law, are attacked and condemned. These industrial weapons systems are our modern idols. We worship their deadly prowess. But all idols, the Bible tells us, begin by demanding the sacrifice of others and end in apocalyptic self-sacrifice."

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So U just keep on replying to me and on my threads - with your deeply racist, rancid, reactionary, unreferenced and unsubstantiated Sino-Centric; US-Supremacist horse-shit and I will put U right Every Fkn Time, U moron & get this, U fkwit: 'CLASS' is what U lack; personally - and in analysis!

ergo temet nosce et per ardua ad iudicium!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

OMG! "How Kansas City Police Ignored Warnings a Killer Targeted Black Women, Until One Escaped"!

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

So apparently the palpably bigoted scum-sucker below - thinks that there's NOTHING particularly racist about "Here's a suggestion to the Blacks who have an anger-management issue"; OR that generalising about all Muslims; OR all Arabs; OR entire 'other' groups of humans isn't racism! If U have the stomach for it dear reader - then read and try to decipher what the s-o-b is saying in his spewed out opinions, tho I for one,have had enough of his increasingly cantankerous screeds of reactionary horse-shit!! Here are 2 useful & comprehensive multi-page exploratory research links for everyone else tho of course the twit himself never makes any recourse whatsoever to any actual evidence or empirical facts for his opinions, which are deeply RW and rooted in the miasma of his damaged mind! Sad,mad & bad too to be honest!

In the final analysis; The Final Analysis on this still standing explicitly pro-99% OWS site, is CLASS and ALL that flows from the FACT that there is enough on this fragile home of ours for all; that we can live in balance with Our Mother and each other; that alas there is a Ruling Class, who really run things for their own dynastic and hereditary benefit; that there's varying degrees of Democratic Deficit wherever we live AND that new ways of being and living have to achieved, IF we are to continue to continue as a species which has now changed the very Geostasis and Biosphere of its home planet! It is adapt & survive time & Reclaim/Claim Democracy for wider Society - from Global Parasitic Oligarchy's Neoliberal Crapitalism & the concomitant Anthropomorphic Global Warming; Environmental Degradation & Corporate Fascism!

Furthermore, we must critique how Racism is used to undermine Class Cohesion & Solidarity, such that the US/UK Ruling Class try to nurture racism, in order to prejudice/con the white working class .. to vote against their own Class Interests in order to spite "others" - despite The Fact that most recipients of any Social Welfare are .. White People! This is the Deep Con that so many people have fallen for, due to the hate that blinds them from the need for Working Class Solidarity! And make NO mistake about it - IF we need to 'work' to pay our bills, then that is exactly what we are; irrespective of the self-deluding conceits & pure propagandist poison of the Global Ruling Class' devious divide and rule meme of"Middle Class"!

per aspera ad iudicium et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 years ago

Blue people, not Blacks robbed and murdered Tessa Majors ! Right ?

The perpetrators had anger-management issue. We need to pass new laws, right ?

What colors are the skins ? Blue ?

Racism is pegged to skin colors by now so you keep on calling me "racist, racist, racist" returning to a nonexistent idiotic cattle-prod slave-branding-by-genome-marking idea of race ( the European Colonizers didn't have black permanent markers. ) You're the one who can't forego this idiotic idea.

Shortly after I had posted about Tessa, calling for the colleges and university to warn the new people in the neighborhood to avoid danger there, yet another ¿newbie? [soccer player and graduate student from Italy] was murdered.

Let me explain to you why Ukraine has gotten far more attention than the Middle East -- it's Islamic sovereignty "Allahu Akbar !" Being a Christian, I share some cultural background with the people of Ukraine and Russia due to Christianity. I have next-to-nothing knowledge of what might trigger the Muslims who had handed out death sentences left-and-right for innocuous-in-the-West incidents and imposed inhumane-in-the-West punishments such as stoning. ( Some people have a point saying that being in the West, I shouldn't even give a shit about their practices in the Middle East where women are sperm banks for men alright and before they're ripened, they need to be sealed for quality yeasty fermentation to make new wines.)

I don't care whether people draw cartoons of Jesus showing his face. I wouldn't sentence people to death or murder them for doing that. I don't care if people burn some Bibles ( it's the most widely published book in the World so there's near-to-zero risk that we'll lose the words in it.) My take on Islam is that its followers generally have extreme anger-management issue going. They don't know the West much and don't care about human rights as enunciated in the U.N. Declaration of Universal Human Rights. Muslims are by their own violence and anger excluded from having these rights ( do Muslims even understand the U.N. Charter or other documents ?) I paraphrase someone I knew with a twist: "The Middle East Muslim world is a big fat rotten piece of halal beef" so I say, "Hands off, everyone, lest we inadvertently duplicate Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. again. Allah will pacify the Middle East." It's Star Fleet Prime Directive put into practice.

If the viscosity between modern societies and the less-developed ones is reduced by having less trans-societal drag and stress created by high-kinetic-energy migrants between them, modern societies can advance faster and the less-developed ones can stay stable longer. Both sides will achieve their objectives easier. Afghanistan was a country which the U.S. should leave behind for it to achieve Islamic stability. It was foolish for the U.S. to spend trillions of dollars to fight, reform, and modernize a country which preferred Allah's modernization program. The U.S. should defer to Allah in this matter. Allahu Akbar ! Of course, if one wants to increase viscosity as Peter the Great had done by funding the importation of young Leonhard Euler, one should increase the number and habitation of the quality trans-societal high-kinetic-energy ( high cultural mobility and temperature ) migrants. That was where the greatness of Russian Mathematics had started. Russia had far deeper root in modern mathematics than Red China, for example. Communist countries like Red China or the U.S.S.R. neither have the reverence for individual pursuit of excellence nor long enough history to succeed on the highest level. Red China still uses Russian jet engines in its exported fighter jets because it doesn't have the scientific/technological depth of Russia which grew at least decades earlier.

Ukraine is in Europe where N.A.T.O, the most formidable alliance on the planet ever, is located. If Russia could burn through Ukraine, we should most probably get a nuclear war going, with N.A.T.O. fighting Russia on Russia's next bite ( Russia helped Syria evade punishments for its using chemical weapons on civilians. ) Russia has already done Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Crimea, Donbas, Luhansk, and now more of Ukraine. Russia has learnt the lesson that no one could stop it so it kept on doing its military destruction and war crimes. Ukraine has been glorious in stopping Russian invasion. We can of course say it in a different relativistic way: Russia's military isn't only pathetic but immoral and depraved. It has committed war crimes and genocide in Ukraine.

Europe has traditionally been a powder keg with much military explosive power so it makes sense to tamp down any potential sparks. Under N.A.T.O. protection, Europe has enjoyed many decades of peace. However, most of the people who had lived through WWII died and the new generation of Europeans had never seen war in Europe so they ignored defense and invited invasions by Russia which is being led by a former petty KGB officer, poison-indoctrinated, who had completely missed perestroika which gave Russia a chance to join up with the modern world.

KGB officers couldn't even live as well as the vanquished-by-Russia/U.S.S.R. Dresden's East Germans because the Abwehr had the sense of obeying the Hague Conventions so my Dad had no reservations about buying many German goods such as Telefunken television set and Siemens clothes washer. The presence and Germanic origin of these home goods were why I had suggested to my Dad, during his Patriarchal Tribunal taking up my Big Brother's motion of us either initiating emigration or stay and turn red by default, that we might want to emigrate to Germany.

I wasn't totally off sucking in luciferous ether with Red Chinese characteristics so Dad explained why Germany wasn't quite right ( "not an immigrant country" and "much too cold" from his bad brutally cold 1939-1940 first impression of the Elbe near Hamburg ) and why the U.S. was better ( he promised that if we emigrated to the U.S., I would eat chickens at every meal but I would have to eat bread at every meal, too; I love eating chickens but I didn't expect it to be literally so; eating bread at every meal was totally bogus because by the time we were in New York City, we could eat a great variety of foods, including southern U.S. rice; after becoming a civil servant to Hong Kong Government, my Big Brother introduced to our family what his colleagues ate: cold-cut ham, cheese, egg tart, curried beef tart, roasted-pork & other buns, milked tea, and dimsum; it was a glorious infusion of culinary cultures, to me at least. ) Dad's ship in a British convoy was torpedoed so it sank. Before ship's coal boiler exploded, a U-boat had evacuated him.

If Germans hadn't rescued him, he would've most probably ended up as shark food -- he understood that well -- because British convoys wouldn't stop or rescue any sailors of torpedoed ships ( despite his coal-shoveling pigshit-excreting inadequate performance to speed up his ship to outrun U-boat wolf pack; coal's being a solid fuel lousy for powering a speedy escape is probably why the British fleet converted to oil, a liquid fuel for great control; most manned rockets use liquid fuel for the same reasons of speed and controllability.) If he were too unappetizing for sharks, he would have drowned anyway because he was a "dry-land duck" 旱地鴨 a newbie duckling which didn't know how to swim in the vast Atlantic Ocean. Nazi Germany was riding high at that time in its war of conquest and the British might join Hitler's Germany in a fight against Communism so that might have contributed to its observance of the laws of war as the British were signatory party to the laws. The peoples of the U.S.S.R. suffered exceptionally because their leader Stool-in refused to abide by the then-existing provisions of the Geneva Conventions ( here bred the Nazi-German Wehrmacht's attitude that the U.S.S.R. peoples were subhuman; they had more respect for the British at the time so Hitler pretty much wanted to finish off the U.S.S.R. first as an easy piece of cake { after the Finns had beaten the Soviet Red Army badly but didn't win } because of Stool-in's betrayal in the conquest and partition of Poland under the Russo-German mutual non-aggression pact ) and also botched the invasion of Finland in the Winter War to win a pyrrhic victory ( which probably gave Hitler the idea that the U.S.S.R. would be yet another easy "piece of cake;" Operation Barbarosa ensured the great suffering of the peoples of the U.S.S.R. )

A European war was a disaster waiting to happen. Ukraine is just the latest example of the future and the past of Europe. Some of it doesn't look that much different from Berlin after WWII -- a lot of rubbles and burnt-out buildings after the Russians have barged through to rape and pillage. Many modern German males probably have Russian Y-chromosomes in most of their cells because their mothers were raped by their Soviet Red Army ( most probably Russian ) fathers, perhaps at gunpoint. Here's a relevant phrase I learnt, shortly after we had landed in Manhattan, from my Big Brother: "son of a gun." D.P.R. Rat got bitten. I wondered what it meant but can't you tell that I tend to be very literal, Asperger-struck-like-Isaac-Newton ( who was known to have persisted in lecturing to an emptied-out hall devoid of any student or audience, ) or scientific ? Germans may not remember much about the Russians but the Poles can probably still vividly recall the horrors because they had experienced Russian atrocities again and again.

Where is the Middle East Treaty Organization to provide for peace and security there ? Nowhere !

The Middle East countries haven't even recognized the other countries' right to exist. A military alliance to safeguard each other is just a halal pipe dream.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

This ex-cop really needs to go to prison.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Up to six Police Officers seem to have something to do with Freddie Gray's arrest and extreme spinal injury, from which he died a week later.I'm not too sure that any of them will even lose their jobs or be reprimanded - never mind ''go to prison''. The Private Prison Industrial Complex in USA (~5% of World Population BUT 25%+ of the Global Prison Population)... prefers a certain demographic to profit from!

[-] 4 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

You're right. Just losing your job, if that psycho behavior is what he lost it for...is not near the punishment that he deserves.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

In prison, this ex-cop bully, is going to be out of his comfort zone.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Cop Choke Killings Continue ...

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Note: "Days after Jordan Neely died after being held in a chokehold by a Marine veteran aboard a New York City subway train, the vet has identified himself, amid swirling questions about the use of the tactic, which is taught in basic training by the service"! - FROM:

e tenebris - tenebris?!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

'"Is he still alive?!' - A teen died after getting tased by cops, who waited 10 min for CPR. 18 months later, no one has been held accountable''!! RIP Nikolas Dyksma - killed by violent cops in Georgia.

Hope all well with you & mRs.Nev1. Sorry about vid. The attrition by cops against civilians continues. Perhaps militarized cops have too many ex-military personnel maybe with PTSD? The mind boggles.

fiat justitia, ruat caelum ....

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 7 years ago

Strange times we live in. Hope all is well with you and yours. Thank you for links.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

"Police Killed Atatiana Jefferson (AND) Then Implied She Was Responsible for Her Own Death!"

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''Terrorized, Traumatized and Killed: The Police State’s Deadly Toll on America’s Children'' ...

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

The Execution of Daniel Shaver is outside any & all human comprehension but this is how USA's Militarized Police, equipped with Weapons of War will eventually act, as the Cop .. Philip Brailsford, WAS ACQUITTED OF ANY CRIME!!!

NB: WARNING: Videos Above Show The Murder of a Man!

Also, all the very best wishes of the season to U & mRs. Nev1.

et fiat justitia ruat caelum ....

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

Mentally ill Minnesota man was shot by Crystal City Cops, for whom clearly - Black Lives [don't] Matter:

And so it goes on in USA. What's now needed is Solidarity and for black and white to unite and fight for what's right. All good but busy with me.Thank you for this important thread & solidarity to U & Mrs.Nev1.

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 0 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

''Don’t Call the Cops If You’re Autistic, Deaf, Mentally Ill, Disabled or Old'', by John W. Whitehead:

''Trained to shoot first and ask questions later, police pose a risk to anyone with special needs whose disabilities may not be immediately apparent or require more finesse than the typical freeze-or-I’ll-shoot tactics employed by America’s police forces.''

Disabled individuals make up a third to half of all people killed by law enforcement officers in The USA!

fiat justitia ...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?''

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"I was an FBI agent who infiltrated white supremacists. Too many local police don’t take the far right seriously - or actively sympathize!" - from ...

respice; adspice; prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"White Nationalists pervade law enforcement. Fighting far right violence means continuing our fight for police accountability"! - from:

multum in parvo!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Note "After Trump Blocked UN Inquiry of Racist Violence, NGOs Are Conducting Their Own" - by Marjorie Cohn:

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Andre Hill: Demonstrators demand justice for Black man killed by police"! - via AP News Wire:

"Demonstrators have gathered in a cold Christmas Eve drizzle in Columbus, Ohio, to call for justice in the death of Andre Hill at the hands of police."

RIP :-(

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

''Ahmaud Arbery Murder Finally Gets Georgia DA’s Attention After Graphic Video'' ... by Chris Walker:

''Following the release of cell phone footage of the shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, 25 - who was shot and killed while jogging near Brunswick, Georgia, in February - state officials say they intend to convene a grand jury investigation to determine whether charges should be filed against his shooters.

''Gregory McMichael, a retired law enforcement officer & his son Travis McMichael, both white, chased Arbery down with their truck ... as he was out for a jog. Both McMichaels initially justified shooting and killing Arbery to police by saying that Arbery, who is Black, looked like someone who was suspected in their neighborhood of home invasions at that time.

''Travis McMichael confronted Arbery - as he tried to avoid the two men by continuing to jog around the passenger side of their truck. The two struggled for control of a shotgun McMichael was holding during the confrontation, during which time McMichael shot Arbery, according to the initial police report. Three gunshots can be heard according to audio from the video.''

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"After Months of Inaction, 2 White Men are charged with Murder of Ahmaud Arbery" by Amy Goodman of DemocracyNow!

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Ahmaud Arbery’s Murder Shows Lynching Remains a Reality for Black America!" ... by Wm.C. Anderson:

"We are in a situation we cannot fully solve with votes or protests. This disaster requires Radical Black Politics."

fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

"Cop Tackles Unarmed Man, Gets on His Back &, Executes Him With a Bullet to the Back of the Head"!!! [WARNING!! The report includes a Very Shocking video!] by Matt Agorist:

"On April 4 - an unnamed officer with the Grand Rapids Police Department initiated a traffic stop on 26 year old Congolese refugee Patrick Lyoya.Moments later Lyoya would be dead from a bullet wound to the back of his head — put there by the police officer — over a minor traffic violation.

"Lyoya’s death is an example of how The System, targets the poor and minorities with excessive traffic fees and fines for non-compliance.Lyoya had a suspended license and so he knew that the officer who pulled him over that day was going to likely take him to jail for it. So, he tried to get away.

"Because it is the police officer’s job to kidnap and cage people over victimless crimes, like suspended licenses, Lyoya was not allowed to walk away. Instead the police officer escalated violence against the unarmed, non-violent man.

"Lyoya arrived in the United States as a child - with his five brothers and sisters. His family was fleeing violence in the Congo and had sought a better and safer life in the States. Unfortunately, and in a twist of tragic irony, thanks to the American police state - their quest for a safer and better life has come to a violent and bloody end."

WTaF?!!!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Police Officer Who Killed Daunte Wright ... Will Face Manslaughter Charge"! ... by Sharon Zhang

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] -1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

The retired orange was coming for good-old-fashioned Saudi-Arabian ritual cleansing. In many White-dominated areas, one can be robbed by a police officer, whether retired or not. One needs to know which stripe currently applies when cruising on the body of a 'zebra', the second to the last word in my first kindergarten's English vocabulary book. Can you guess what the last vocabulary word was in there? Roar, Lion, Roar! Roar, Lion, Roar! The word was 'zoo' underneath a picture with cages, with one holding a roaring lion.

My Big Brother taught me to do well by avoiding the dark-skinned people because they were the muggers, burglars, bullies, and dope dealers. They wore sneakers to run away quickly after mugging people and hoodies to conceal identity and make available many pockets to hold dope packets { on a subway diversion, I crossed path with such a packet near a playground but at that time, I didn't know what cannabis was so I picked up the small transparent plastic bag, took a look at what I thought was "dried herbal-flower-bud medicine," and left it back on the ground where I had found it } and cash from street-corner dope sales. He also taught me to look for graffiti on walls/roll-up storefront doors, bullet holes in big sheet glass of store fronts ( they are like Wilson cloud chamber records of gun violence in the neighborhood ) broken safety glass mostly cubic gravel-like greenish fragments in the gutters of streets ( evidencing break-ins to cars parked there; in those days car radios and cassette players were "hot" items in demand.) Everyone who had robbed every member of my parental family had dark skin color !

Of course, my Mom's admonition about the kidnappers and terrorists was superior to his advice: a kidnapper or a terrorist points their nostrils downwards so I should run away if I see downward-pointing nostrils on the people approaching me. It's how I had determined that not only was Xinjiang full of terrorists per the Chinese Communist Party, so were Manhattan, Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, and Staten Island ( admittedly Staten Island had far fewer in number because it's actually a rather backwater place, more like a rural piece of New Jersey { believe it or not, it has flora coming from much farther south, perhaps transported by the Gulf Stream ! } than a borough of the City of New York; look, since the 1970s despite the low cost and now free ferry rides between it and Manhattan, I've only set foot upon it twice, set wheel there once, and never leaving a wharf twice { once on wheels because I made a very expensive wrong turn on Belt Parkway onto the [gateway suicide] bridge after seeing the frozen body of my [dead-from-a-disease] Mom--my Dad who had brought home touristy postcard pictures and a brochure of New York, NY would have probably said, "Lucky you for finally going over the huge gateway bridge [which I believe that he had never gone over but passed underneath it many times] across the entrance to the port ! "-- and twice on a ferry to view the Statue of Liberty from [somewhat] up close [enough to view it in entirety without lifting my head up at all] and 'cruise' New York Harbor/Harbour } ).

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"In the name of George Floyd in Minneapolis - Hundreds Protest"! - via this very short video link:

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Officer Derek Chauvin knelt on 46-year-old African-American George Floyd’s neck .. for over seven minutes until he passed out and died. In its headline on its website,Minneapolis police described the event as “man dies after medical incident during police interaction,” ... laundering themselves of any responsibility. Chauvin continued his assault ... even as Floyd desperately pleaded that he could not breathe, while bystanders protested his brutality. “You are fucking stopping his breathing there, bro,” warned one concerned passer-by. Even after passing out, Chauvin did NOT release pressure on his neck. Chauvin has killed multiple times before while in uniform, has shot and wounded others and is well-known to local activist groups." - from ...

"While serving as Minnesota’s chief prosecutor between 1999 and 2007 .. Klobuchar declined to bring charges against more than two dozen officers who had killed citizens while on duty – including against the cop that killed George Floyd."

respice et adspice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Black Man Dies After Minneapolis Police Officer .. Pins Him To The Ground By His Neck!":

Wonder what U & your bigoted big brother would think of this? "I can't breathe" because of cunts!

fiat justitia ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Did your Bigoted "Big brother" teach U to avoid white people, wearing white collars on Wall Street, who would steal all U've got & leave U with nothing & steal you and your kids' future?!!! No, he fkn didn't did he?!! Because you were a pair of cheap, racist fux - weren't you?! Now STFU & read these links before U reply to me here again ...

et temet nosce!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''Man Nearly Killed By Police In Illegal Chokehold Breaks His Silence'':

The horrific viral video shows Elonte McDowell saying, “I can’t breathe."

respice et prospice ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

No change.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

Newark, NJ Police officers did not fire a single shot during the calendar year 2020, and the city didn’t pay a single dime to settle police brutality cases. That’s never happened, at least in the city’s modern history. Oh, and crime is dropping.

tempus mutantur et nos mutamur in ellis!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23824) 3 years ago

Newark police reform is remarkable! They should be so proud and they should be held up as an example to police forces all over the country.

If Newark can do it, any city can do it.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

"Chomsky: Protests Unleashed by Murder of George Floyd Exceed All in US History" by G.Yancy:

respice et prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''Virginia Police Shootings: ‘We missed an opportunity to stop him''' ...

''In 2011, Virginia police officer Stephen Rankin shot an unarmed man dead. Last year he did it again. The fight to get him convicted is the subject of a new film.'' - I have watched that film already & it was shocking and revealing. Police with RWNJ views are sadly not at all uncommon. Indeed - the reverse seems to be true all too often. I also wonder - how many traumatized ex-military cops are in the USA!

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''Marcus Deon Smith Was Killed 1 Year Ago by Police. His Life Still Matters.'', by Flint Taylor:

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Everyone needs to see this.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

Dallas police killed Tony Timpa, a mentally ill man who called THEM for help.

They restrained him until he died, even as he yelled - “you’re gonna kill me!”

Then, still on top of his dead body .. they crack jokes about it.

But charges against the officers were dropped by Dallas DA!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

A ''man died in police custody after officers mocked him for 'acting' sick & dragged him away from the hospital ...

unFKNbelievable!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

RIP - William Chapman - killed by Off.Steven Rankin - who was FOUND GUILTY of manslaughter!!! Amazing verdict in US PD terms!! Wow! Fyi, here is the doc. film I referred to above:

RIP - Terence Crutcher:

RIP - Sam Dubose {Not video links}:

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

RIP Donovan Lewis

"Donovan Lewis was pronounced dead at the hospital, after Columbus police shot at him in his own bed"!

fiat lux et fiat justitia!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

On Jan. 3rd, the LAPD tased a Black man to death ...

  • after he flagged them down for help! At one point,

  • he says ... "They are trying to George Floyd me"!!

  • His name: Keenan Anderson;

  • His cousin, Patrisse Cullors ...

  • founded Black Lives Matter!!!

FROM: https://twitter.com/campaigntoendqi/status/1613653452084715534

& also: "Keenan Anderson was a dedicated father and high school teacher."

via here https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1613635565550768145

AND A WARNING - AN EXTREMELY DISTURBING PD MURDER VIDEO!!

fiat justitia ruat caelum!!!

PS: For further details of this distressing story see https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/11/black-lives-matter-co-founder-cousin-killed-los-angeles-police :-(

et fiat lux!!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23824) 1 year ago

"Black Lives Matter May be the Biggest Movement in U.S. History"

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/03/us/george-floyd-protests-crowd-size.html

So, why then, are black people still being killed by cops. Why was the founder of the movement's cousin tasered to death needlessly? Keenan Anderson was backing away from the cops when tasered!

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/14/1149132089/keenan-anderson-patrisse-cullors-lapd-body-cam-footage

RIP Keenan Anderson

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

A sad trail of American Hate Crimes, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity.

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Exactly, and the euro-centric nature of our society prevails. Anyone who looks different, no matter how many centuries their ancestors have lived here, is at risk, because violent, hate-filled, ignorant and intolerant white people rule in a way that is not all that much different than when Christopher Columbus made his way to "India" 500 years ago.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, we need a complete overhaul of our ethos in order to change this thing around. I may start praying...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''The Shocking Story of How a Chicago Cop Killed a Teen -- Then Locked Up His Best Friend for the Murder'' - w/Amy Goodman, DemocracyNow!:

OMG!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Wondering if this cop was trained in Israel.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

That US police are being trained in Israel, is not a matter of dispute even if most folk haven't a clue!

Solidarity to you and mRs.Nevada2 on the occasion of #S17. Onwards and Upwards even when it's sideways sometimes!

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Good article. Solidarity!

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''A Jewish pro-Palestinian activist, Alice Rothchild, also addressed the training of some US law enforcement officials in Israel, alleging that IDF policies are based on racism toward “brown people.”

“While the carnage in our cities is certainly related to our own history of slavery and modern day racism and lack of gun control and a host of societal forces, having a police force influenced and trained by an occupying military force that sees another group of brown people (Arabs) as the enemy has certainly heightened the issue. The parallels between white racism and Jewish supremacy flourish here and abroad,” wrote Rothchild.'' - from ...

This new shocking execution of Terence Crutcher reminds me of Tamir Rice re.speed of shooting. ''Sad'' would be one word for it! ''Fucking Outrageous'' would be two more!! Looks like "Betty Jo" shot the guy!!!

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Never ending trail of police murder. Welcome to New World Order.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 years ago

Police have shot & killed a 6 year old boy - in San Antonio, Texass! They claimed the woman they were shooting at had a gun but it appears she was unarmed too. No gun was found on the scene. She's also dead. The boy was inside his house & one of the three cops who shot the woman dead, seems to have missed her & shot the kid through the walls of a trailer park home. This Shit never ends & US Cops are routinely scared & trigger happy AND more inclined to try to kill .. as leaving anyone alive may end with serious questions &/or a law suite! Crazy days. Hope U & mRs.Nev1, are safe & well & best wishes for Xmas/NY to U both. Solidarity & fyi ...

fiat lux, fiat justitia et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

RIP Alfredo Olango, shot dead for walking while being black,smoking a 'vape' contraption! Unbelievable!

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Ultimate Cowards.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Ultimately - Drones could be described as exactly that! So...."Terminator and SkyNet" anyone?!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/23/obama-americans-killed-drone-strike_n_7126186.html

At home and abroad, IF "solutions" = basal or technological violence .. something is very wrong!

[-] 6 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Just imagine living in a World where your kids were afraid to go to school, or attend any of life's celebrations, because they feared a drone attack.

[-] 7 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

In fear of drones and death from the skies, children go to school in Pakistan, Yemen and.. more places than we are supposed to know... or care about. Perhaps none of us are ''free" until all of us are free and none of us are "safe"unless all of us are safe. TPTB rely on our mind managed ignorance and a created indifference to do their ugly work. Also http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/category/projects/drones/

As ''terror'' is as terror does and is experienced... who are the "terrorists" and who the "terrorized" here? The "Terror Meme" is used to mind-manage us in The West but the stark and abject effects of terror are and have been used BY The West for a long time.The School of The Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia was the University Of Terror/Counter Revolutionary Insurgency for S.America.. for 2 or more generations.

[-] 5 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

There is no doubt in my mind that the next generation of freedom fighters will be these kids who are now undergoing unimaginable horrors. Inevitably they will be hardened beyond their years. We will quickly label them, terrorists and the beat will go on. In our quest for hegemony, we need to keep people from thinking and understanding the term blowback.

If we were honest we would put ourselves (the US) on the State Sponsored Terrorism list.*

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

The young and the future are the reasons why many if not most of us are here on this forum and with this in mind, please see - ''“What Can You Do For Me? - The Pathology of the Rich White Family'' By Chris Hedges - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41888.htm A really eye opening piece.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1223) 2 hours ago

The young and the future are the reasons why many if not most of us are here on this forum and with this in mind, please see - ''“What Can You Do For Me? - The Pathology of the Rich White Family'' By Chris Hedges - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41888.htm A really eye opening piece.

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Yeah - you are here to promote opting out as a good course of action for the public to take. In that - you are a supporter of the 1% power control.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

LOL! Advocating blindly voting Dem - would be what then? Lying about who said what is the work of a mendacious manipulator. Jog on and maybe try http://www.leftforum.org/ and admit that you just can't handle anything from The Left as it essentially shows you for the conservative reactionary that you are.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] -1 points by lugano (1223) 8 minutes ago

LOL! Advocating blindly voting Dem - would be what then? Lying about who said what is the work of a mendacious manipulator. Jog on and maybe try http://www.leftforum.org/ and admit that you just can't handle anything from The Left as it essentially shows you for the conservative reactionary that you are.

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"Advocating blindly voting Dem - would be what then?"

That would be something that I have never done. It is however a perfect example of your constant shit throwing.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Wake up to your beloved POTUS and smell his BS - http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30819-us-original-sin-and-the-2016-presidential-election + Keep brainfarting at me when you need more to read.

[-] 5 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

You're right we need a change of "ethos." We have become desensitized to human suffering. It's not all their fault though. It's ours's too.. for having bought into this system for so long. When I see people, young people in particular, who refuse to accept this as the norm, it's very heartening.

[-] 7 points by elf3 (4203) 9 years ago

Media promoted "tribalism" has got to go...human beings aren't sports teams and this is a far more dangerous game. When we pit "our" ethnicity against "yours"... its symptomatic of our disconnection to life...a disconnection from being and our true self nature...a disconnection from purpose. It is what we resort to when we are oppressed and desperate. Unity is the sign of authentic self and happiness born of purpose over material fluff or exerting control over others. We must not turn against each other but we must together grind this machine to a halt...our system is broken. Evil doesn't discriminate where it exists...it is a constant shifting of the soil...we can all fall into its trap if we aren't aware we are standing in it.

[-] 6 points by windyacres (1197) 9 years ago

Coexist. No more, "Us vs. Them". It's all people vs. evil.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Beautifully said, elf.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Agree

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Consider ''The Logic of the Police State'', by Matthew Harwood:

A bit of a un-seasonal read Nev1, with very li'l ''HO Ho ho'' mais c'est la vie! Have a good Xmas/Yule/NY!

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Hope you and yours are enjoying this Holiday Season. Thank you for the tunes and news articles.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Thanx, I did - but this fkn guy .. ie. Killer Kop Feaster, The Over-Eater

Paradise, California Cop - Patrick Feaster did NOT accidentally shoot a DUI suspect - as the DA would have you believe! He pointed his gun & then pulled The Trigger Twice!! So, wTf is going here actually?!!! Look at the DA's statement of exoneration, to see proof of how Cops Can Get Away With Murder in US:

From which I could quote much but here's a doozey for you:''Also detailed in the report is the evidence from the frame-by-frame analysis of the video and the combined experience of the investigators, which indicates the officer did not intend to fire his pistol and was “surprised” by its discharge. This included the fact the discharge is seen occurring while the officer is in mid-stride; and that he flinches his head and does a “stutter-step” when the gun fires.Officers don't intentionally fire weapons in such a manner and additionally they are trained, as was this officer (from his training records over five years), to fire a minimum of two shots when they fire intentionally.'' Well Mr.Crooked DA - Feaster DID fire twice!!!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

US cops trained in Israel------ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M05Nu4LBlnM

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''American police shoot and kill far more people than their peers in other countries'', by G. Lopez:

multum in parvo?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''Why are American Cops trained in Apartheid Israel?'' - is a disturbing question that Americans won't know to ask because their B-S,MSM will never tell them to!!! The contents of that video should shock people!! IF they choose to view it that is & kudos to the lady there for her clear cogent reply! Also fyi:

Which ends with .. ''When a riot squad from the New York Police Department destroyed and evicted the “Occupy Wall Street” protest encampment at Zuccotti Park in downtown Manhattan (police) department leadership drew on the anti-terror tactics they had refined since the 9/11 attacks. According to the New York Times, the NYPD deployed “counterterrorism measures” to mobilize large numbers of cops for the lightning raid on Zuccotti. The use of anti-terror techniques to suppress a civilian protest complemented harsh police measures demonstrated across the country against - The Nationwide “Occupy” Movement, from firing tear gas canisters & rubber bullets into unarmed crowds - to blasting demonstrators with the LRAD sound cannon.''

Furthermore note: ''Given the amount of training NYPD and so many other police forces have received from Israel’s military-intelligence apparatus, and the profuse levels of gratitude American police chiefs have expressed to their Israeli mentors, it is worth asking how much Israeli instruction has influenced the way the police have attempted to suppress the Occupy movement, and also how much it'll inform police repression of future upsurges of street protest. But already - the Israelification of American law enforcement appears to have intensified police hostility towards the civilian population, blurring the lines between protesters, common criminals, and terrorists. As Dichter said, they are all just “crimiterrorists.”

“After 9/11 we had to react very quickly,” Greenberg remarked - “but now we are in 2011 and we are not talking about people who want to fly planes into buildings. We’re talking about young American citizens who feel that their birthright has been sold. If we’re using the Israeli style tactics on them, and this stuff bleeds into the way we do business at large, were in big trouble.” So how does this impact #BLM etc.?

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Troubling. DA really stretching things to make this go away. California has a history of being hard on victims , and easy on criminals.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Cops like a ''just us'' system that will ''protect and serve'' them and their 1% bosses & 0.01% Overlords.. whereas everyone else needs and wants a ''justice'' system that's blind to class, occupation, wealth and privilege! The local press and gun-nut types, are now even up for blaming the ... type of gun that Feaster The Overeater was carrying - rather than the fact that this stone killer fired his gun Twice!! Unbelievable!!!

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

''Blank Check Policing: when law enforcement officers have almost absolute discretion to decide who is a threat, what constitutes resistance & how harshly they can deal with the citizens they were appointed to “serve and protect.”- from...

Hope & & mRs. Nevada1 are well. Solidarity.

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

pronouns and related not

[-] 3 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

That was well said. Thanks.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Well, gee, elf said it all perfectly. :) Solidarity! Let's turn this thing around!

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Obama, Master of Diversion, Proposes Bogus Reforms of Militarized Police'' by Glen Ford -

http://www.blackagendareport.com/obama-bogus-reform-on-militarized-police from which ...

''To sum up, President Obama’s attempt to focus public attention on police hardware, rather than the oppressive mission of the Black Mass Incarceration State, is both a diversion and a fraud. It is not a meaningful or honest response to the core demands of the Black Lives Matter movement, but instead seeks to change the subject to calibers of weapons, styles of police dress, and distinctions between tracked and wheeled armored vehicles. At the end of the exercise, both the equipment and the racist police mission remain in place.''

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Nothing the fake USG says, can be trusted.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

The reason for the ''fake USG'' - is the fake Democracy in The U$A! So here is how a couple of other countries took control of their collective well being - http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/how-swedes-and-norwegians-broke-the-power-of-the-1-percent/ = A short and important article that's very inspiring.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, important article. Amazing story. They wrote the book, on dealing with the 1%.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

I strongly agree and that's why - http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30936-the-left-matters-now-more-than-ever but of course you could say I would say that, lol + fyi, pls consider: http://www.leftforum.org/

More in keeping with this sad but important thread, consider: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30926-sgt-james-brown-26-survived-two-tours-in-iraq-only-to-die-begging-for-his-life-in-texas-jail :-(Video/Script)

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Did not know about this case. Sad. Everyone needs to know.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Not a Man ; Not a Moment - but a Movement - http://blacklivesmatter.com/ !! Solidarity.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"As Chief Prosecutor, Klobuchar Declined to Bring Charges ... Against Cop That Killed George Floyd!'' by Alan Macleod:

"While serving as Minnesota’s chief prosecutor between 1999 and 2007 .. Klobuchar declined to bring charges against more than two dozen officers who had killed citizens while on duty – including against the cop that killed George Floyd."

respice; adspice; prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Klobuchar info being hidden!!! Via probable DDOS attack on 'The Mint Press'!! NOT good! So ...

FULL MINT PRESS ARTICLE

=======================

The latest example of America’s racist police brutality problem was caught on camera in Minneapolis Monday, as Officer Derek Chauvin knelt on 46-year-old African-American George Floyd’s neck for over seven minutes until he passed out and died. In its headline on its website, Minneapolis police described the event as “man dies after medical incident during police interaction,” laundering themselves of any responsibility. Chauvin continued his assault even as Floyd desperately pleaded that he could not breathe, while bystanders protested his brutality. “You’re fucking stopping his breathing there, bro,” warned one concerned passer-by. Even after passing out, Chauvin did not release pressure on his neck. Chauvin has killed multiple times before while in uniform, has shot and wounded others and is well-known to local activist groups.

A history of racist policing, thanks to Klobuchar

Minnesota Senator Amy Klobuchar, who Joe Biden recently asked to undergo vetting to be his running mate for November, issued a very tepid statement about the incident, describing the police killing of an unarmed black man over an alleged forged check as merely an “officer involved shooting,” – a copaganda word often used by police as a euphemism for “murder.”

Klobuchar also called for a “complete and thorough outside investigation into what occurred, and those involved in this incident must be held accountable.” However, this is unlikely to occur, in no small part because of Klobuchar herself and the precedent she set while serving as the state’s chief prosecutor between 1999 and 2007. In that time, she declined to bring charges against more than two dozen officers who had killed citizens while on duty – including against Chauvin himself, who shot and killed Wayne Reyes in 2006 and would later go on to shoot more civilians while in uniform.

At the same time, however, Klobuchar was ramping up the number of arrests as part of her tough-on-crime agenda, something which inordinately affected people of color. In her first year in office alone, the prison sentences for first-degree drug crimes doubled. Activists allege her embracing of the broken window-style policing was a deliberate strategy to win support in the white suburbs of Minneapolis, to the detriment of the city’s non-white communities, bolstering her successful run for senate in 2006. A case in point is Elsayed Salim, who was convicted of failing to declare a secondary income that put him above the threshold for welfare and food stamps. A judge sentenced Salim to 364 days in jail – deliberately attempting to protect him from deportation by keeping his sentencing under a year which downgraded the case from a felony to a gross misdemeanor. An outraged Klobuchar appealed the decision, lobbying for an upgrade and condemning the state’s judges for “letting offenders off the hook too easily.” Mr. Salim was subsequently deported.

While it may not be the first city that comes to mind, data shows that Minneapolis is among the most racist cities in the United States for racial profiling and police stops. The police force’s own data shows that, while black people make up only 18 percent of the population, they were involved in nearly half of all police stops. Conversely, whites make up 60 percent of the population but figured in less than 21 percent of the stops. 62 percent of body searches and 63 percent of people whose cars were searched were also black. Thus, Floyd’s killing is merely a viral example of a wider phenomenon, a spark that ignited a powder keg of resentment that had been building for some time.

Outrage at an unlawful killing

Despite the COVID-19 pandemic, massive protests have erupted across Minneapolis in response to Floyd’s killing, with thousands of people marching through the city. Police attempted to suppress the demonstration last night, firing rubber bullets, tear gas and stun grenades, even though there were many children present.

“This is a disgusting display,” said City Councilman Jeremiah Ellison, “I’m here on the southside, helping people as I can with milk, water, and towels. So far, I have been unable to prevent the police from firing indiscriminately into the crowd. Moments ago, I held a towel to a teenage girl’s head as blood poured from it.”

Thus, it appears that Klobuchar’s milquetoast response was out of keeping with those she represents, and even the public more generally, judging by replies left below it, which included, “This was murder, plain and simple,” “Those cops need to be arrested today,” and “What is there even to investigate?! This cop is a murderer and the other cop is an accessory to murder.” The incident was also the top story on Reddit and Twitter on Tuesday and Wednesday morning.

Other public officials denounced the killing far more forcefully. Melvin Carter, Mayor of St. Paul, said that the video was “one of the most vile and heartbreaking images I’ve ever seen,” adding that “The officer who stood guard is just as responsible as his partner; both must be held fully accountable.” Ilhan Omar, an African-American congresswoman representing the city claimed that watching a black man helplessly begging for his life sickened her. “Black lives matter isn’t just a chant, it’s a call for justice. It’s a call for our humanity to be recognized,” she said, “There needs to be an immediate DOJ investigation into this.”


Alan MacLeod is a Staff Writer for MintPress News. After completing his PhD in 2017 he published two books: 'Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News' and 'Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent'. He has also contributed to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting; The Guardian, Salon, The Grayzone, Jacobin Magazine, Common Dreams & The American Herald Tribune and The Canary in the UK.

fiat lux; fiat justitia; fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

It is not only Obama that is a master of "diversion," or speaking out of both sides of his mouth. We have politicians from both of the corrupted parties who do the bidding for Wall Street. Senator Schumer who is considered a liberal Democrat is the biggest recipient of Wall Street money in the Senate. And the big banks are huge beneficiaries of War.

Charles Schumer's Wall Street dance

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charles-schumers-wall-street-dance/

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

that link is too slow

I suspect nepotism in their web page writers

I a hindering greed to always want more where more just means doesn't load well

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[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

nope

it reads removed

same when I'm logged out

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Thank you Matt. Not sure now how long my comments actually stand. Strange times we're all living in - on and off forum. I leave Karma to do her bidding and The Devil take the hindmost. Solidarity to you and fyi please see - http://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-the-us-have-worst-inequality-in-oecd/

[-] 6 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Check this out------Report Confirms That Police Killed Netasha McKenna With Her Hands Cuffed And Legs Shackled------

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/13/1377417/-Report-confirms-that-police-killed-Natasha-McKenna-with-her-hands-cuffed-and-legs-shackled?detail=email

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[-] 7 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you Lugano for the reminder about this murderous event, which saw no justice. We must never forget.

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[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Every time the system gets away with murder, the more it will murder. War Crimes.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Consider: ''The enemy is the state: how the US justice system started a civil war'' by Sergio De La Pava

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/05/the-enemy-is-the-state-how-the-us-justice-system-started-a-civil-wa Very well written, heartfelt and poignant and a good, if alarming read, summed up here:

''As more and more incidents of police brutality are captured on film, you might expect them to become less common. But, as one New York public defender attests, the problem has deep roots — and its victims are grimly predictable''

Also fyi: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/10/the-counted-500-people-killed-by-police-2015

Plus essentially on this thread ... http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/counted-us-police-killings

And finally for completion ... https://twitter.com/thecounted and https://www.facebook.com/TheCounted

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for good info. USG knows all about everything we buy, every thing we look at on internet, and every place we go----- but does not know how many people are killed by cops.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

RiP Netasha McKenna. Another appalling incidence of Murderous Police Excess. Fyi from 30 years ago, see - http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/30-Years-Ago-Philadelphia-Police-Bombed-a-Black-Neighborhood-20150513-0024.html I just about remember that and it is no less shocking - even now.

~

Sorry to repeat myself Nev1 but the above is my arbitrarily ''removed'' reply to you on this thread from above: http://occupywallst.org/forum/everyone-needs-to-see-this-anonymous-code-blue-201/#comment-1059122.

Furthermore, ''Tyranny and Violence come in many forms - so resistance is a moral imperative.'' ..was my ''removed'' reply to you here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/everyone-needs-to-see-this-anonymous-code-blue-201/#comment-1059241 You have replied to me already but ''someone'' thinks that it is ok to hack your important thread for purposes as yet unknown - but probably very small and extremely petty.

Immediately below this reply to you is yet another example of this Petty Tinpot Tyranny that prevails on this OWS-Forum, re. a reply about ''Monroe Bird'' .. which you probably never saw via your reply notifier.

Ok Nev, whine over - lol, so your .. ''USG knows all about everything we buy, every thing we look at on internet, and every place we go----- but does not know how many people are killed by cops.'' - is A Fkn Huge Point! Solidarity to you and yours and to The Fallen and their families and ergo, again I'll repeat...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/counted-us-police-killings

https://www.facebook.com/TheCounted

https://twitter.com/thecounted

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[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Agree------Unite for the greater good.

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[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

And thank you for link.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 1 points by lugano (1186) 3 minutes ago

OMGosh! A reply from someone other than DKAtoday! You are VERY welcome and thank you for your important thread. Also fyi: http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Time-to-Ditch-Lesser-Evilism-in-USA-20150508-0016.html I'd suggest that the Violent PD's across the USA take their cue from War Mongers!

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1st track: (Dancing) "When we want to change the subject to put it back on someone else - because we can't defend a position that we have been pressured on - ooo look something shiny - and we will be relentless repeating it to infinity in every place we can find to place it"

dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • "Our theme song" - by (mdonelly, turbocharger and the Cronies)
[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Copy/Pasting replies is a lazy and unintelligent way to subvert this forum. Nobody is impressed BUT some people no longer posting here will be happy. Have you been getting advice from others?! Is jart aware of what you're up to here? Do you get why http://www.leftforum.org/ is important to Occupiers?

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Police Shootings Won't Stop Unless We Also Stop Shaking Down Black People - The dangers of turning police officers into revenue generators.'' by Jack Hitt:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/police-shootings-traffic-stops-excessive-fines

From which I excerpt ...


''(L)urking beneath this violence is a fiscal menace: police departments forced to assist city officials in raising revenue, in many cases funding their own salaries—redirecting the very concept of keeping the peace into underwriting the budget.

''We saw a glimpse of this when the Justice Department released its report on Ferguson in March. In his statement, then-Attorney General Eric Holder referenced a lady in town whose life sounded Walter Scott-like. She had received two parking tickets totaling $151. Her efforts to pay those fines fell so behind that she eventually paid out more than $500. At one point, she was jailed for nonpayment and—eight years later—still owes $541 in accrued fees.

''The judge largely responsible for the extraction of these fees from Ferguson's poor, Ronald J. Brockmeyer, owed $172,646 in back taxes, a sum orders of magnitude greater than any late fine coming before his bench. Even as he was jailing black ladies for parking tickets, Brockmeyer was allegedly erasing citations for white Ferguson residents who happened to be his friends. After the report's publication, he resigned so that Ferguson could "begin its healing process." {What a scumbag!}

''But consider: In 2010, this collaboration between the Ferguson police and the courts generated $1.4 million in income for the city. This year, they will more than double that amount—$3.1 million—providing nearly a quarter of the city's $13 million budget, almost all of it extracted from its poorest African American citizens.

''Evidence also suggests that this new form of raising revenue—policiteering?—goes far beyond Ferguson. Remember the recent Oklahoma case involving Robert Bates, a 73-year-old millionaire insurance broker with to go out on patrol—likely because he had donated lots of money and equipment to the local sheriff's office? He killed an unarmed black suspect [RiP: Eric Harris] when he grabbed his gun instead of his Taser. In the days that followed, we learned that other deputies had long resented this guy's freelance incompetence.

"Essentially, these small towns in urban areas have municipal infrastructure that can't be supported by the tax base, and so they ticket everything in sight to keep the town functioning," said William Maurer, a lawyer with the Institute for Justice who has been studying the sudden rise in "nontraffic-related fines."


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Well worth reading the whole article - to be honest.

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

everyone having to scramble for money leads to fighting for it

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''US Surveillance Targets Black Lives Matter Activists'' by Marsha Coleman-Adebayo: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32424-us-surveillance-targets-black-lives-matter-activists and btw there's plenty of money Matt but it's just that it is being hoarded at the tippy-top .. as all pretence of ''Trickle Down'' has now morphed into ''Hoover Up'' ... as we lurch from Kleptocracy to Plutocracy to Oligarchy to Fascism!

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

yes, people can be tracked by interested parties

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good article. Such a warped system.

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

And shit just got a lot/bit more ''warped'' ... ''WHY WAS AN FBI JOINT TERRORISM TASK FORCE TRACKING A BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST?'': https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/12/fbi-appeared-use-informant-track-black-lives-matter-protest/ Implications of this are huge & a bit scary!

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1065) 1 minute ago

Gosh! I finally get to see a reply from someone other than our BPD/NPD person! Please may I strongly recommend this: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30819-us-original-sin-and-the-2016-presidential-election in compliment of your forum-post? This is an extremely important thread. so thank you again.

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "Also known as trying to hide in the light"

We get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1085) 4 minutes ago

By ensuring that all most/all replies funnel to you, you are unable to cope with the volume of replies that you've brought on to yourself and you delude yourself into thinking that copy/pasting crap from your user profile page, is somehow adequate. It is not and you are exposing your nature to all here. You would be better off considering http://www.leftforum.org/ and/or seeking some kind of urgent professional help too.

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by mdonelly (391) from Mineola, NY 14 minutes ago

I had an interesting coversation with a retired army colonel earlier today. His basic point was that was the representatives in Washington shouldered the blame. My point was that you can NOT divorce yourself from the responsibility for all the deaths of innocent people for an ignoble pursuit. It got very testy between us especially when I told him that he was not in the army for me.. We both just walked away from each other.

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14th track (see how badass I am?)

By this tactic. You may well overlook the fact that we do not want you to unite and take action - like possibly all getting together to vote out of office all of the actively evil in office - because we will also tell you that that just isn't possible - so - better for you to just protest and forget about doing anything else at all.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1077) 0 minutes ago

Yet another reply to me subverted by you and your unconscionable bevavior. None of us can escape our Karma and you are your own curse and so I need not perturb my karma by wishing you ill. I do recommend this though: http://www.leftforum.org/ .

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1085) 2 minutes ago

Looks like you have a problem with people expressing their choice or preference or opinion by actually - VOTING! Speaking to yourself/others in the 2nd or 3rd person is a sign of mental illness btw. Good luck and your damaged mind is NOT our fault and also perhaps divert your mind to http://www.leftforum.org/ .

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 1 points by lugano (1054) 39 minutes ago

Tyranny and Violence come in many forms - so resistance is a moral imperative.

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14th track (see how badass I am?)

By this tactic. You may well overlook the fact that we do not want you to unite and take action - like possibly all getting together to vote out of office all of the actively evil in office - because we will also tell you that that just isn't possible - so - better for you to just protest and forget about doing anything else at all.

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[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1077) 4 minutes ago

Who made you arbiter of the consensus on this "radical" forum? You're just acting like a Conservative

Reactionary and have you heard about http://www.leftforum.org/ and what have you to say about that?

Does OWS give a rat's ass about what you are doing here btw and are you actually proud of yourself?

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1085) 0 minutes ago

IF ''tactics'' equals voting for comments, ideas and views that are liked - then I guess that your problem is with 'Democracy' on these boards and you're deluding yourself IF you think anything has been rendered ''moot'' - especially your nature and state of mind. Why not try http://www.leftforum.org/ ?

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13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 4 points by lugano (1048) 3 hours ago

''Monroe Bird. Shot, Paralyzed by - His Own Neighborhood Security'' and this sorry tale will take some believing but please read on http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/14/1384734/-If-Trayvon-Martin-had-lived-Meet-Monroe-Bird-Shot-paralyzed-by-his-own-neighborhood-security# Also sorry to see that your important thread has been infected by the extended melt-down of one of the in-house Dem-addicts! :(

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "we get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover"

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1065) 2 minutes ago

Hey look here: http://www.leftforum.org/ :-)

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From the collected styling s of the status quo defenders

1st track: (Dancing) "ooo look something shiny"

dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • "Our theme song" - by (mdonelly, turbocharger and the Cronies)
[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Everyone but(t) you can now see and attest to your psychic meltdown and all you're doing is making it all worse for yourself. Try to meditate on http://www.leftforum.org/ - IF u have a progressive, liberal mind because your behavior says that you are a Reactionary Conservative who fears and resents ''radicals'' - despite such radicals having ''brought to you'' this OWS Forum. Oh, The Irony! Get over yourself... asap.

[+] -6 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1085) 17 minutes ago

Everyone but(t) you can now see and attest to your psychic meltdown and all you're doing is making it all worse for yourself. Try to meditate on http://www.leftforum.org/ - IF u have a progressive, liberal mind because your behavior says that you are a Reactionary Conservative who fears and resents ''radicals'' - despite such radicals having ''brought to you'' this OWS Forum. Oh, The Irony! Get over yourself... asap.

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Everyone - Of course meaning you and your tinkle/stinkle teammates.

13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

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[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 1 points by lugano (1089) 10 minutes ago

Do you think that you may get a hearing if you articulated whatever ails you outside the unread and repetitive crap above? Do you think you own this forum? Are you trying to kill it? Are you actually far more conservative than you realise or can admit? If so, this could help you http://www.leftforum.org/

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 1 points by lugano (992) 1 hour ago

''Greatest Threat to Free Speech Comes Not From Terrorism, But From Those Claiming to Fight it'' by Glenn Greenwald ..... https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/13/greatest-threat-free-speech-comes-terrorism-claiming-fight/ Thanks Nevada. We must Never Forget IF we don't want to repeat. Solidarity.

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight)

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

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[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 4 points by lugano (1048) 3 hours ago

You should know that I regard these copy / pasted replies as spam + as an indication of mental illness and it ain't pretty. Per the thread, perhaps try to later consider - BUT ONLY IF it won't exacerbate your clear symptoms - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/14/1384734/-If-Trayvon-Martin-had-lived-Meet-Monroe-Bird-Shot-paralyzed-by-his-own-neighborhood-security# Try to get well and stop the spamming.

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10th track: (Tossing Shit)

As We have nothing to back-up our stated positions (opt-out fiction) - We will do our best to throw it back on ( put a lie on) any who would ask for details of our non-existent action plans (Ya know......those who put the lie - "to shine the light" - on our bullshit).

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up)

12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "we get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover"

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 4 points by lugano (992) 2 hours ago

RiP Netasha McKenna. Another appalling incidence of Murderous Police Excess. Fyi from 30 years ago, see - http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/30-Years-Ago-Philadelphia-Police-Bombed-a-Black-Neighborhood-20150513-0024.html I just about remember that and it is no less shocking - even now.

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12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) We love this one - we love it

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 4 points by lugano (1048) 3 hours ago

Is this your thread? Was my reply to you? Do you think this is your forum? Do you think anyone is reading your tedious nonsense? Have you got NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder)? Go get well.

Per subject of this thread - maybe try to consider - IF its not going to make you worse http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30817-black-officers-rally-around-cop-accused-in-death-of-freddie-gray Be good now.

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13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

1st track: (Dancing)

dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine

Ah baby

Move it baby

dancing . . . Dancing . . . DANCING . . .

. . . . we're a dancing machine . . . Ah baby

Move it baby

We dance to avoid to evade as we got nothing to provide . . . . Who needs substance - dancing is easier to do then actually most anything else . . . . . .

cause we're dancing............ Dancing............. DANCING................ we're a dancing machine . . . . . . ooo LOOK something shiny . . . . .

  • "Our theme song" - by (mdonelly, turbocharger and the Cronies)

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1065) 2 minutes ago

And so it goes on! + Consider: http://www.leftforum.org/

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13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We know a man He came from my hometown He shared his passion for this world in deeds that needed to be done

He said, world, I live in fear My love for you’s so overpowering and I’m afraid that you will be disappeared”

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And, We know a woman Became an advocate to support life These are the very words she uses to describe her life She said, “A good day Ain’t got no stinkle team” She said, “A bad day’s when I lie in bed And think of things that should have been”

We had stinkle teamed Her away Stinkle teamed Her away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

And We know a father Who had a son He longed to tell him all the reasons For the things that needed be done He came a long way Just to explain He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping Then he turned around and headed home again

We had stinkle teamed Him away Stinkle teamed Him away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

We say "God only knows God makes his plan" We say "The information’s unavailable To the mortal man" We want You to work your jobs Collect your pay To believe you’re gliding down the highway When in fact you’ve been stinkle teamed away

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

  • by (mdonelly & turbocharger - harmonizing - the Cronies singing back-up) "Sung to the tune of Paul Simon's - Slip Sliding Away"

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[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 3 points by lugano (1167) 4 hours ago

Usurping this forum and subverting it's normal running says nothing about me and too much about you.

Have you considered http://www.leftforum.org/ btw? I recommend it to you IF.. you aren't a reactionary!

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13th track: (Stinkle teaming away) "one of our very favorites - we can bully and manipulate the boards by teaming up to stinkle comments or twinkle our BS - but we really hate it if anyone calls us out on it - and it drives us insane if we are subjected to anything like it ourselves."

Stinkle teaming away Stinkle teaming away You know the nearer your proactive destination The more we’re gonna try to stinkle team you away

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1186) 1 minute ago

Keep barking MadDog today - I've got things to now and as unlike you - I don't eat, drink, sleep, urinate and defecate from the same chair - then I'll see you another time but please do try to mull on this link to a Tweet by jart again https://twitter.com/justinetunney/status/450775171528663041 You're a twerp btw.

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20th track "(We really really really are not about Direct Democracy)"

As people could tell if only people paid attention to our activities

Lucky for us the people do not and so we can continue with our politi-speak = talking endlessly while saying "really" nothing at all - nothing of any value - see also: endlessly arguing circular "public self defeating" logic, tossing shit, spouting specious aspersions, trying to hide in the light, etc etc etc

Lucky thing that more people don't ask us why:

"Why don't you take over government for the people from within?"

"Seeing as you don't have a national party in place to successfully run your candidates in all 50 states - WHY don't you run your candidates as dems and reps?"

Well we would just have to say (and we do) that the people can't be successful that way. Better we say - if we all stay away - and just protest for government to get better.

We really do not want people to consider a possible winner by doing things like Bernie Sanders and run as a dem for a real chance to win - and have "more" people running on the issues where they can legitimately destroy their opponents in office or also running for office - by pointing out past voting records showing non support for the people - even showing active attacks on the people - or even calling on them to declare a public stance.

Gosh that would ruin our whole "public self defeating" circular do nothing opt out and just protest logic.

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[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Just before you breath your last breath ask why none'll remember to mourn your passing or even water your final resting with a sprinkle of urine. You are an ex-person here and, burnt all the bridges you had.

[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1077) 0 minutes ago

Usurping this forum and subverting it's normal running says nothing about me and too much about you. Have you considered http://www.leftforum.org/ btw?

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15th track "(things that we really really really hate)"

For example - when our tactics get thrown back in our face.

We complain - but - it is more than just a little lame - because truth be told - bottom line - at the best - we are being - hypocritical.

But damn we hate it after all of these years to have our tinkle/stinkle team tactics made moot.

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we will often retaliate with:

12th track: (Hiding in plain sight) "Also known as trying to hide in the light"

We get really strident with this - when we feel we need to reapply shredded cover

All it requires - is - enough expressed vitriol for the system in general - and many will believe you mean it - while one need not provide any supporting substance.

(part 2)

When the 1st part is not enough we also love to pretend to support protest and things (whatever is handy) - helps to throw off suspicion.

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[+] -5 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1085) 2 minutes ago

There are serious implications to YOU speaking as "WE" - and I am sincerely recommending professional help be prioritized by you above http://www.leftforum.org/ I feel sorry for you now.

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2nd track: (Specious aspersions) "When one has nothing)"

We throw specious aspersions as we have nothing else to say.

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[-] 6 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

The dumbing down of police in the US, is no joke. So many cops seem to be hoping for an opportunity, to murder.

All part of the grand plan, of TPTB.

Thank you for posting this.

[-] 9 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Walter Scott (RIP) had a broken tail light; had served his nation in The US Coast Guard + had 4 children and was trying to get by in little or no work, fuck all 'Trickle Down' (other than BS) but 'Wealth Hoovering Up'; pro-1%/anti-99% And Desperate Recession Hit Real USA - run by Oligarchs, Parasites + Bankers!

Further just because BS militarized, over armed and trigger happy racist cops - who would NEVER have shot a white man 8 fkn times in the back...are now effectively ARMED MUNICIPAL TAX COLLECTORS, giving out tickets as a Cash Collection Exercise for the cash strapped urban municipalities, then people like Mr.Scott are the victims of a system designed to crush the human spirit. It can NOT go on like this!

[-] 6 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Unfortunately Mr Scott's death, at the hands of police was not not an aberration, as most of us know. The whole corrupt system which has a well-known, infamous history of putting badges on psychopaths, or people who lust after power and control, and then lets them get away with murder needs to be indicted.

[-] 7 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Mr Scott's death, at the hands of police was not not an aberration'' is sadly far more true than we want to realise or to admit. Mike Brown in Missouri; Tamir Rice in Ohio; John Crawford in Ohio; Ezell Ford in California; Eric Garner in NY - the list is endless. This egregious police behaviour is not just confined to black people either and all US citizens need to consider just what's happening as they sleep walk on.

Police jobs on the front-line with the public: need to be graduate jobs, better paid, better trained, less militarized - more proactive, less reactive - more community based and less racist and paranoid... for everyone's sake. Unfit, donut munching, old, fat, trigger happy, corrupt, racist cops... just need to go!

http://www.alternet.org/print/civil-liberties/11-shocking-facts-about-americas-militarized-police-forces

[-] 6 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

The police are the "enforcement arm of the State," and as such, most garner huge salaries (as well as having very little real accountability), that are far higher than other public workers, even though others often have far better educations on the whole, namely teachers... The psychopathic behavior that many of them display is mostly overlooked because their compliance with the status quo, no matter how corrupt, is essential for the continuance of neoliberalism. The unaccountability that they have have enjoyed by their word being accepted as 'fact,' and by complicit, farcicle Grand Juries is now being challenged by people who catch their crimes on camera.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/12/thugs-uniforms-psychopathology-police/

For anyone who thinks, 'Well I'm not being victimized...' I would say, 'not yet.. maybe....'

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''The Psychopathology of Police Violence'' was a very good link. Thanks + again - http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/12/thugs-uniforms-psychopathology-police/

Also fyi: ''9 Months Pregnant, Handcuffed Woman Punched by Texas Police'' - http://rt.com/usa/248125-texas-woman-punched-police/ (Video & Article) A Texas woman has accused a cop of beating her when she was 38 weeks pregnant. Thanks to the surveillance system in her parents’ home.. a video has been published online that appears to prove her allegations. An investigation is under way - but in Texass....?!

[-] 6 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

We have a psychopath system which in countless ways puts the interest$ of the coprrupt elite first and foremost. 'They' do their best to convince us that this is the new norm that we have to adjust to. It is also paramount to them that the first line of defense, either be recruits, or people willing to be psychopathic too.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

"Walter Scott's Killing Is a Direct Result of the State of Policing in America Today'' By Ezekiel Edwards http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ezekiel-edwards/walter-scott-killing_b_7036706.html ..and I'd argue that so many years of a Military Security State - has now generated a soft face for Fascism inside the USA and that like frogs slow-boiling in a pot, the US public has become inured to the realities that they face. And http://www.alternet.org/print/civil-liberties/11-shocking-facts-about-americas-militarized-police-forces

[-] 5 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

This is a war. It has been going on for a long time. Many are suffering from this war. The war is escalating, and a new level of suffering is planned by TPTB.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

“It is astonishing the lengths to which a person, or a people, will go in order to avoid a truthful mirror.”... James Baldwin, ''This Morning, This Evening, So Soon''.... and in deep honor of this great man's insights into so many things, I'll also now link to this very good article, which quotes James Baldwin too - "White guilt won’t fix America’s race problem. Only justice and equality will" by the black British journalist Gary Younge.... http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/10/white-guilt-america-walter-scott-us !

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good article.

Check this out------ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-QIMAQL-00

[-] 5 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Even with this, TPTB will still carry on with Jade Helm 15--------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XZLnI-zxd0

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''The reason why you didn't hear The Fat Lady Sing ... was because she died of radiation''! - from your video and in support see this from ''Greenpeace'' about Fukushima + JadeHelm and all, is a bit much!

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/nuclear/safety/accidents/Fukushima-nuclear-disaster/ + re 'JH15' and all, consider http://www.globalresearch.ca/global-capitalism-and-the-global-police-state-crisis-of-humanity-and-the-specter-of-21st-century-fascism/5444340 = Quite a read tbh!

[-] 5 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

"FILM THE POLICE" B. Dolan ft. Toki Wright, Jasiri X, Buddy Peace, Sage Francis #FILMTHEPOLICE

glad to here he served the US

i mean if we only regard those that "serve" the US

you may as live in a military state

right?

not like those people we bomb who deserve no rights

just keep speaking out of the side of your mouth

good thing we diudn't have to regard this one for its humanity

[-] 7 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

"F,F,Film The Police'' and that's true because ''This is what happens when you call the cops'':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlY9C6pzxKc -''u get your rights violated or y'all get shot''!

Your point about eulogising those ''who serve'' is true and yes, you do live in a ''military state''

Scientific Uber-Violence and Illegal Incarceration Abroad... Only leads to The Same at home!

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Hello Lugano, Reply option on most of your comment/reply missing, so am talking here. Yes FBI acting like it is 1960 again----Symptom of critical problem. Please see link-----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p51kbdnenc

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Good video but WTF was that?! Police in USA seem to have forgotten how to police, or how to handle crowds or how to de-escalate situations. They want to go to their guns and military kit like MRAPs etc. but consider that every problem will seem to be a nail IF a hammer is The Only tool in their crap-bags!

Police are sworn to serve and protect everyone equally, not disproportionately stop and harass only certain communities.Rather than express surprise & shock that during a long summer, people have been killed by police in highly questionable circumstances, it is up to us all to do something. + Fyi: http://www.alternet.org/print/civil-liberties/11-shocking-facts-about-americas-militarized-police-forces

Btw, ''reply options are missing'' ... occurs only when 15 replies on a matter are reached. Finally, do note: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32429-criminalizing-the-history-of-us-radical-underground-movements for deeper insights why/how ''FBI acting like it is 1960 again''.Solidarity to you and yours.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, many cops displaying only one response. Not much conflict resolution any more. Good links.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''U.S. police forces are so out of control there’s not even a reliable database on how many times police officers shoot citizens. So, beyond racism and fear of guns, the problem includes fragmentation in law enforcement and gaps in training among the 18,000 police agencies in the 50 states'' from:

''Why US Police Are Out of Control'' by Daniel Lazare: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/20/why-us-police-are-out-of-control/ From which I also excerpt ...

''America is clearly an outlier when it comes to police brutality. According to The Guardian’s highly useful “Counted” website [ http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database ], Where police in Stockton, California, killed three people in the first five months of 2015, police in Iceland, which has roughly the same population, have killed just one person since the modern Icelandic republic was founded in 1944.

''Where Britain’s police forces are firmly under the control of the Home Office while France’s are under the Ministry of the Interior, moreover, America’s are virtually autonomous. When the Justice Department sent out a survey on the use of force in 2013, the answers that came back were so jumbled as to be well nigh useless. Some departments sent back information on the use of guns, while others included reports about punches thrown and the use of non-lethal devices such as beanbag guns. Others, including such big-city departments as New York, Houston, Baltimore and Detroit, either did not know or refused to say.

''A country that doesn’t even know how many times police fire their weapons or under what circumstances is one in which every local department is a law unto itself, a self-contained barony with its own special rules and customs.

''What does a lack of knowledge have to do with ultra-high levels of brutality? The answer is simple: absence of knowledge means an absence of control, which means that local departments behave with relative impunity. If local cops seem out of control, it’s because the only controls come from local politicians who are often corrupt and racist and therefore tolerant of such behavior on the part of the officers they employ.''


This is a good and well thought out article on this crucial matter, & with many important embedded links (only one of which: ''The Counted'' have I included above) & I recommend this article to all readers.For an alternate link, with clearer font .... please see: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42681.htm

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Fragmentation-----18000+ agencies, and no unifying standard. Good contribution here.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''The Counted'' Database of PD Slayings is a very important site/resource imo re. this important thread -

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for this. Guardian did what the USG could not do.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

http://www.fatalencounters.org/ - is another site to note in this matter & I'd say that this site and The

Guardian's on-line database do NOT what ''the USG could not do'' -but what The USG Would Not Do!

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 8 years ago

Did you know that in many States although running a pedistrian over with a motor vehicle is a felony (vehicular homicide,) there is no law against running a bicylisit over with a motor vehicle? So, say for example if somebody's little kiddie who wanders out in the street gets hit, big trouble, but say if the the same little kiddie rolls out into the street on a big wheel and gets hit by a car, no biggie; that is perfectly ok.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

The street's name is Wall Street, isn't it? It's just angina clintoris but Brexit tries to shake it off. Just feel the temblors in the financial markets! U.K. kisses E.U. goodbye. Orange is the new white. "God also made me fast."

Headphones on drivers were illegal but conversing on cellphones and texting by drivers are still legal in many states. Temporo-lobotomy is far more dangerous than loud music but the difference was that young people blared music but rich people used cellular phones and telephone company had lobbyists to defend corporate profits.

Skynet knows, and herd-culling data are being shared with hospital emergency rooms. Fourth amendment of the U.S. Constitution is being violated: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/

Some people have been culled by deathcare workers.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''New Prison Radio Commentary on Walter Scott Shooting by Mumia Abu Jamal'' (Video) http://www.democracynow.org/2015/4/10/exclusive_mumia_abu_jamal_releases_new ...

The long time imprisoned journalist and former Black Panther Mumia Abu-Jamal, has spoken out from a prison infirmary about the police killing of Walter Scott in South Carolina. Abu-Jamal, who is seriously ill at SCI Mahanoy, rose from his infirmary bed to record the commentary after a fellow prisoner wheeled in a TV so he could watch coverage of the shooting.

[-] 6 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Mr Slaeger's (the cop who was SEEN on video! shooting an unarmed black man) wife is eight months pregnant, and the mayor of N Charleston announced that she will continue to receive his health insurance, basically because, 'it's the right thing to do.' Then we have Mumia Abu-Jamal ACCUSED of killing a cop, who is in need of urgent medical care, and not getting it. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy in this? It would be laughable if it weren't so tragic.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

"Strange Fruit", sung by Nina Simone - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktsU01lfzLU -(silent sad sigh)

“There are few things under heaven more unnerving than the silent, accumulating contempt and hatred of a people.”

  • James Baldwin, ''Nobody Knows My Name'' + consider: ''We cannot discuss the state of our minorities until we first have a sense of what we are, who we are, what our goals are... and what we take life to be.”

RIP Mr. Walter Scott and.. Michael Slaerger's wife and unborn child are totally innocent but the rights to healthcare afforded to them should also be Universally Accessible To All Americans, irrespective of their economic or employment status.Healthcare in a civilized nation should not be a privilege but a Right4All and the fact that so many Americans, worry about healthcare in case they are taken ill or have an injury is an absolute abomination and aberration in The Richest Country the world has ever known and so that fact alone (never mind that 30% of costs go to 'admin'!) should make Americans question the US' ethos.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

You made a good point.

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Matt Taibbi on Baltimore, Freddie Gray and How The US Legal System Covers Up Police Violence - http://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/21/matt_taibbi_on_baltimore_freddie_gray (Video + Transcript)

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

RiP Tamir Rice but I'm not really relating to the ''protest'' Al Sharpton bit from the narrator. There is a reason that some white folk really viscerally hate Sharpton (and his family it appears .. if you elide to next video) is because Al Sharpton is NOT shy to speak hard and harsh home truths to white power.

The murder of Tamir Rice is particularly shocking and egregious .. and being polite about it by being 'respectful' of white folks' feeling - is not on for black folk. Protesting murder, isn't really ''race baiting'' although cops continuously killing people of color with impunity for decades could be seen as ^that^.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Never ending highway of murder, by hysterical cop cowards.

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Consider... "No man survives when freedom fails, - The best men rot in filthy jails, - And those who cry 'appease, appease', Are hanged by those they tried to please."(Hiram Mann, An American Aviator who passed away just over a year ago) In the context of your forum-post, the cry of appeasement would be TO the PD's! Also fyi, see... http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/31111-we-re-building-a-movement-with-young-gifted-and-black-coalition-in-the-lead-z-haukeness-on-madison-s-white-racial-justice-organizing ~

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''Killer Cops Boost Body Count in War on Black America'' By Glen Ford - http://www.blackagendareport.com/killercops-bodycount - short extracts:

''March was a very good month for killer cops... they racked up at least 111 bodies, the majority of them unarmed Black and brown men. “Any genuine movement for criminal justice ‘reform’ must aim to abolish the Mass Black Incarceration State, root and branch, by removing the ‘occupation’ army...

''The wave of state violence that smashed the Black Panther Party.. when it challenged the police “army of occupation” in the late Sixties, NEVER subsided, but was instead hard-wired into the criminal justice system, nationwide.''

Finally, see ''Eleven Eye-Opening Facts About America’s Militarized Police Forces'', by Alex Kane : http://www.alternet.org/print/civil-liberties/11-shocking-facts-about-americas-militarized-police-forces

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

War Crimes

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

In a case of epiphany - ''Shot to the Heart'' - https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/shot-to-the-heart/

[-] 5 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

The 'from the heart' comment by Ms Nauright was beautifully written. It should all make us think.

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

''The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer'' - James Baldwin, who also said - “A person does not lightly elect to oppose his society. One would much rather be at home among one's compatriots than be mocked and detested by them. ... And there is a level on which the mockery of people, even their hatred, is moving, because it is so blind .. It is terrible to watch people cling to their captivity and insist on their own destruction.” WTFU America! Unite and Fight! Win!

[-] 4 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

"Nothing that's worthwhile is ever easy." Nicholas Sparks

We can take solace in knowing that we are in a epic battle for justice, and in knowing that we have been joined by a lot of good people. And by, "Be[ing] the change that we wish to see in the World," Gandhi, we become more credible.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

"Mother, mother - there's too many of you crying..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_H358T-Ijc RIP Eric C. Harris; Walter Scott; Tamir Rice; Eric Garner; Kajieme Powell; Mike Brown etc. Etc. ETc. ETC.!

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/ .... extracted from your excellent link. Thank you very much for that and here's a tune by Percy Sledge {RIP} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj3UdRmhgvM in return.

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

the US could have kill twice as many in one airstrike

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

The US could and it does so regularly and without pity, conscience or compunction... as you so well document on this very forum and so consider "If You Tolerate This, Then Your Children Will Be Next" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs Home and Abroad, the US Killing Machine rolls on.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

some work ethic drum

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 5 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Good link. Controlling the minds of the masses has always been of chief importance in perpetuating an unjust system.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

The video brought up the possibility of 'citizens arrest', of criminal CEOs. That concept has merit.

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

"White guilt won’t fix America’s race problem.Only justice and equality will"by Gary Younge http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/10/white-guilt-america-walter-scott-us

Also: Eric Courteny Harris [RIP] "I'm losing my breath''; Tulsa Police - "Fuck Your Breath"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEhhcgFf5RQ&feature=youtu.be

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

More War Crimes.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Yes, The ''Blue Klux Klan'' need to be vetted, weeded and retrained as All Lives Matter and Police Lives Matter too... BUT NOT MORE Than Other Lives! + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CM2YMaZSWk

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Blue Klux Klan----------That says a lot.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago
[-] 5 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

People are awakening to our two-tiered justice system, and the pot is beginning to boil. And more people are beginning to link this injustice to so many more, realizing that we have the same foe.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Can rich folk BUY their way into - Playing Police By Becoming Donors and Then Become Reservists? Crazy Question?! Read This.. http://m.tulsaworld.com/newshomepage1/sheriff-s-office-reserve-deputy-who-fired-fatal-shot-was/article_3d1f3fe7-43cd-5fa1-9e8c-d8b3aefe2504.html?mode=jqm Fkn Nuts imo.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Excellent.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Thanks + see the crazy Tulsa story above. You couldn't make it up!

[-] 6 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

Welcome to Bizarro World, my friend.

No, I'm serious. I loved the comic books back in my youth, but we're there, my friend. We're there.

[-] 7 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

News Flash from "Bizarro World" ... "Police Sergeant Says Cop Who Killed Unarmed Eric Harris Is a 'True Victim'"(oMg!) - http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30211-police-sergeant-says-cop-who-killed-unarmed-eric-harris-is-a-true-victim but The People just ain't buying it! Got to stop out of control cops!

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Reply option missing from your last post, so am responding here.

Excellent links. Freddie Gray----Broken Neck----Vicious Murder.

With all this, it is easy to understand why US citizens have concerns about Jade Helm 15.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Missouri town elects 1st Black Mayor - 80% of Police and City Attorney, Water Supervisor... resign!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/19/parma-police-resign-black-female-mayor_n_7097110.html

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/80-percent-of-police-force-resigns-after-missouri-town-elects-first-african-american-mayor/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/20/1378904/-Missouri-town-elects-first-black-mayor-80-of-the-police-city-attorney-water-supervisor-resign

''If the very presence of a black woman in power causes you to fear for your safety, you shouldn't be a public servant.'' - Shit is fkt up and BS... Information = Defence and finally, with ref. to ''Jade Helm 15'': http://occupywallst.org/forum/everyone-needs-to-see-this-anonymous-code-blue-201/#comment-1058321

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Agree---oMg. The cops there must have a persecution complex. Perhaps, soon they will call the shooter cop a hero.

[-] 6 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

RIP: Freddie Gray, neck broken by the Blue Klux Klan, Baltimore.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/20/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death/

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-freddie-gray-20150419-story.html

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/20/death-in-custody-of-baltimore-man-freddie-gray-sparks-call-for-independent-inquiry

More Death by Militarized Cops inside USA, where u are "under oppressive occupation of a troll army - otherwise known as Western corporate "news media" that will never tell u just how managed are your perceptions. Quote from - http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20150420/1021135202.html - for an alt. view of distant but actually very related events, when viewed through the dark prism of State Violence.

[-] 4 points by mdonelly (324) from Mineola, NY 9 years ago

Did they redefine words like, 'good' and 'evil,' and 'up' and 'down' in "Bizarro World"? Were people there who fought back against subjugation called 'terrorists' too?

[-] 5 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 9 years ago

Yes. Everything is opposite in Bizarro World. Good is bad, up is down, taxpaying citizen is enemy combatant.

Also, . . . is good not to have job in Bizarro World. So, not have money to spend, so company goes out of business. More layoffs, less money, more closures. Cycle continues. Only total worldwide financial collapse will validate neoliberal economics.

Wait, . . . now I'm confused. Was that last part Bizarro World, or the real one? My head hurts.

ong ;-)

[-] 7 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

And right on que, here comes the personal attacks. I'll still never know how those four obtained moderating powers on THE #1 site for the biggest political movement the country has seen in decades.

see below -------v

[-] -3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Looks like you have a team of societal failures backing you. Does that make you happy? - being a cause celebrity of the garbage of society?

[+] -4 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Your great nephew ever pay you back? Or are you just letting that slide? If you are letting it slide - then - you are another reason why the young that are coming up ARE so worthless - You (and everyone else) have got to instil responsibility in our youth.

BTW - I hope you don't get pissed off at me ( like other no-account parents - relatives - siblings and such do) - your no account family is your history - NOT - mine. Make a difference in your little corner of the world - and have that disrespecting relative pay up to what they owe.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Murder charges made possible by public seeing video recordings as well as video recordings of other police murders having been leaked to the public and the subsequent protests growing across these united states.

Still waiting for the release of all video recordings of the Minneapolis pd shooting/killing of unarmed civilian.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for post. Video is vital. This is a war against the people.

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Re. ''Video is vital'' - ''Cops Didn’t Know Camera Caught Them Deleting Video of the Murder of ... Laquan McDonald'' by Andrew Emett, from http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ = A Must See Website!

so ''Accused of deleting the surveillance video of Laquan McDonald’s death, several officers appeared in recently released screenshots tampering with Burger King’s computers before the footage mysteriously disappeared. Although 86 minutes of the surveillance video have gone missing ... including the moment McDonald was gunned down, Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez claims no one tampered with the footage.'' - Yeah right, because, you know - we can trust the cops to do the right thing these days!!!

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cops caught deleting video, by video. Thank you for Free Thought and AlterNet sites. Executions.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

''The Killers Are Everywhere, But Love Endures'' by Ed Curtin ..

This is a really lovely & moving read, that I append and attach above because - we all need a li'l soul! Edward Curtin is a sociologist and writer - who teaches at the Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts.

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for fine article.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Ed Curtin's article is great & will reward anyone reading it. Now at a bit of a tangent:

pax ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good Tangent. Social Security is one of the few good remaining parts of the USG. Good info.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Re. Bernie Sanders & Social Security, please also consider the following forum-post:

'Tangents' can have real purpose & they can clarify, contextualize & give perspective!

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Chicago Chief of Police = Fired

This due to the murder of the Laquan McDonald.

Still - I think that there are more in the chain of command and in the prosecutors office that should also be fired - if not also charged for aiding and abetting after the fact.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, Charged

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Full Justice SYSTEM accountability - so not only charged - but . . . . . prosecuted & convicted! It is the only way that the system will work to change and become an asset of society rather than a detriment to society!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Exactly

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

no one's gonna save you from the beast with 40 eyes

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

So - ''This Thanksgiving, Let’s Say ‘No Thanks’ to the Tyranny of the American Police State'' ...

From which I excerpt: ''Militarized police, shootings of unarmed citizens, SWAT team raids, misconduct and qualified immunity have transformed the U.S. into a police state. What we must contend with today is the danger of having a standing army (which is what police forces, increasingly made up of individuals with military backgrounds and/or training ... have evolved into) that has been trained to view the citizenry as little more than potential suspects - combatants and insurgents. Despite propaganda to the contrary, it is estimated that U.S. police kill more people in days than other countries do in years. On an average day in America, at least 100 Americans have their homes raided by SWAT teams (although I have seen estimates as high as 300 a day), which are increasingly used to deal with routine police matters: angry dogs, domestic disputes, search warrants, etc. Every Five Days a police officer somewhere in America engages in sexual abuse or misconduct.'' However .. I do recommend reading the entire heartfelt article.

RIP Laquan McDonald (executed by 16 bullets); RIP Sandra Bland {dead before the PD Mugshot} et al.

verb. sat. sap. ...

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

This Thanksgiving, let's think about what we have left to be grateful for in the United States of America. It's dwindling daily, sadly. Maybe if we can think of what we still have, we can hold onto that and build from there. We have a lot of building to do....

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Consider: ''The Thanksgiving Myth: Reflecting on Land Theft, Betrayal and Genocide''..

Maybe U$A really needs to embrace humility and humor rather than hubris and hypocrisy but for that, ''hate'' has to be rejected and ''history'' acknowledged. Nevertheless, I hope you and yours can have a good one. The same to those who read, comment or brainfart on these boards. Solidarity 4 a bw 4 all.

pax ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

SUNY ESF & native land it stands on. The environmental school acknowledges that it stands on Haudenosaunee Territory and native Onondaga land.

"Where We Stand"

http://www.esf.edu/communications/view.asp?newsID=3955

"Before a crowd of about 100 from the college community and the Onondaga Nation, Wheeler highlighted three points:

ESF is located within the original territory of the Haudenosaunee, or Iroquois, Confederacy.

The college's main campus, its Heiberg Forest and its Lafayette Road Experiment Station are all within the Land Rights Action of the Onondaga Nation.

The Onondaga Nation maintains its own distinct government, language and customs based on a smaller portion of its original land base located south of Syracuse."

"These statements reinforce our responsibility to think about where we stand in the context of history, geography and environmental understanding so that we are ever-cognizant of the implications of our work for the real world," Wheeler said. "As individual persons, our time here is brief, but the land is permanent and our decisions and actions toward the land have consequences for many generations to come. We stand on the side of responsible stewardship of the land."

"SUNY-ESF has stood on this ground for more than 100 years, a long and venerable history of education for the environment," she said. "However, our tenure here is but an eye blink of time in the history of these lands, which have been and continue to be the ancestral homelands of the Onondaga people since time immemorial."

"Kimmerer noted the center has created an undergraduate minor called Native Peoples and the Environment and that next year it will introduce a new graduate program in indigenous issues and the environment."

A step and maybe a lesson to others in how to begin to heal the wounds of colonialism, genocide, slavery and hegemony.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Again "SUNY-ESF has stood on this ground for more than 100 years, a long and venerable history of education for the environment," she said. "However - our tenure here is but an eye blink of time in the history of these lands, which have been and continue to be the ancestral homelands of the Onondaga people since time immemorial."That bears repeating and speaks volumes for SUNY-ESF.Also fyi see

fiat justitia ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23824) 8 years ago

"Tens of thousands of American Indians have waited decades for recognition, their lives left in limbo by the notoriously slow federal acknowledgement process. Since the process was established in 1978, 87 tribes have petitioned for recognition. Yet only 51 have received a determination, and about two-thirds of those were denied."

I had no idea all of America's Native Americans were not recognized officially. Shame on me and shame on my country.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Sadly, Native Americans' struggle for their Civil Rights is still a Very Big untold story in U$A but in truth, the shame is on us all. We disregard their knowledge and ancient wisdom about the land - at our peril ..

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23824) 8 years ago

A Drone Protestor Heads to Jail:

http://billmoyers.com/story/a-drone-protestor-heads-to-jail/#.Vp_7rESv_mY.twitter

A must read. I guarantee you will be outraged. This segues nicely here, because this arrest happened just outside of Syracuse, New York, where, evidently, and who knew, training occurs for drone pilots. Good grief.

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

So - ''Fifty-nine-year-old Mary Anne Grady Flores will serve six months for photographing a protest of an airfield in upstate New York where drone pilots are trained and from where missions are carried out.'' (WhoTF knew that?!) - from your link:

Which ends with:''Grady Flores was arrested in 2012, when she and 16 others blocked the entrance to the base, prompting the request from the military for the order of protection. So when she was arrested again a year later — not for protesting herself but for stepping on the road outside the base and taking pictures of others who were protesting — she was found to be in violation of that protection order. And the protestors she was photographing? They were acquitted.

''Justice David Gideon threw the book at her and he sentenced her to a year, claiming in his five-page ruling that he didn’t buy her First Amendment argument.Instead, he thought she “was willing to ‘break the law’ to seek publicity for her cause.” After an appeal - her sentence was shortened to six months.

''Before she went to jail yesterday she told us ... “I asked my grandchildren, ‘Do you know where I’m going?’ and they said, ‘yeah, you’re going to jail, Nana.’” She told us that it is difficult to leave her 88-year-old mother who is ailing ... but that her mother appreciates her carrying on in the tradition of Dr. Martin Luther King and the iconic Catholic activist Dorothy Day, with whom her mother once worked. Day famously said, “No one has a right to sit down and feel hopeless. There is too much work to do.”

''Grady Flores says her mother’s good-bye shared that sentiment, “Mom said to me, ‘I’ll pray for you, I’ll be with you in that cell.’ She said it in a whisper but she is [also] grateful that I am continuing the work.”


Thanx for your link to Bill Moyers' article.He's an epitome of a 99% Journalist + fyi, see his piece re.BS:

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23824) 8 years ago

"The New York Times Invents Left-Leaning Economists to Attack Bernie Sanders" - Bill Moyers

http://billmoyers.com/story/new-york-times-invents-left-leaning-economists-to-attack-bernie-sanders/

"While it is nice that The New York Times is subjecting Sanders’ views to serious scrutiny, it would be good if it also subjected the views of other candidates to the same scrutiny."

Yeah, right.

Let's face it. There's nothing easy about being on the left. We forge on! Never give up!

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Bless Bill Moyers! He is a 99% Warrior!! Forge on and NEVER give up!!!

Thanx for an excellent link and thus in compliment,please also consider:

fiat lux ....

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Recognition of indigenous peoples rights Goes against greed & profit of TPTB.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

as I understood the pilgrims were grateful the natives help them survive at the time

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Without the Original Inhabitants' help, ''The Pilgrims'' - would not have lasted long. + I recommend:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

food, means of transport and communication

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good articles. Police state. US digesting itself.

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

''America is a democracy only to the extent that citizens feel that it is worthwhile to participate. We are in a race between new organizing strategies and credible leaders on the one hand, and ... demagogues and mass alienation on the other. And time is not on our side.'' Quoted from ...

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

''Renegade Police in Rural Alabama Accused of Mass False Arrests of Hundreds of Black Youths''

Yet..''Another explosive report of institional racism by white police and prosecutors who willfully targeted black youths has emerged from one of the most remote regions of Alabama, the deep southeastern city of Dothan ... where for years, a handful of officers apparently planted drugs on Hundreds of black youths and railroaded them into prison.'' Yep .. ''Police state. US digesting itself'' BUT it need NOT be Like This:

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Everyone should see all this.

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

A total of 462 people have died & 1,314 have been wounded in mass shootings in the US in 2015!

No one I know thinks US Society can be disarmed & I can get why pistols for home defence and rifles & shotguns for hunting & vermin control have value BUT whyTF can y'all go buy an AK47 at a ''Gun Fair''?!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

The weapons are not for hunting. They are for self protection, enemies foreign and domestic. And we are going to need it, because the rest of the planet has just about had enough of us.

We are trending towards Germany prior to WWII. And we know what happened to Germany when the rest of the planet decided enough was enough.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

WTF kind of hunting needs a AR15 or AK47 ffs?!!! I'm sorry but the ''protection from enemies foreign and domestic'' is such specious, pseudo-religious crap!! The Second Amendment was for a musket and flint-lock rifle era citizens' militia from .. When There Was No Standing Army & the perfidious Brits were still looking to flip the nascent USA!! Re. ''domestic'' .. well fk me - IF Americans'd had have had the nous or balls to take their Govt. back from Banks, Corporations and the MIC .. well - they'd have done it by now!

Guns are an Opium of The People! They give an illusion of security/independence!! As the U$ is $tolen!!! Mussolini defined Fascism as the merger of Corporations{Banking, Industrial et al} with The State.Hmm! Yes, the USA is now tending towards Germany in the 1930s; especially as Empire's Armies return from overseas BUT there is NO foreign threat to The U$A - no matter how many times paRDisan pols tell y'all there is! HOWEVER I do feel some anxiety for Canada tho'!! Remember Austria and Anschluss, 1938?!!!

respice, adspice, prospice .. et caveat!

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

Tell all of that to the people in the Middle East who are under siege and very happy to get their hands on a few AKs.

In a nation whose population continues to vote in fascist war criminals, I would say the chances that the rest of the planet decides to do something about it are very high.

Honestly, populations as a whole never see these things coming. If they did, they would do something about it ahead of time.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Ouch!!! I'll have to get back to you turbs because I'm in a huge rush now! Solidarity hc!

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

:) All good.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Just Don't Vote Trump OR else ... there'll be a Hell Toupee !!! He is a RWNJ MSM Demagogue loon!

By the way .. ''the people of the Middle East'' are NOT .. ''very happy to get their hands on a few AKs'' or that they think that they need guns but that region is so awash with guns .. that it is an arms industry & gun-runners playground! More & more guns will NOT help! You aren't an ''American Ammosexual'' R U?!!

I hear you loud and clear re ''continues to vote in'' Fascist War Criminals BUT I ask you .. just how many people are actually voting these days? 'Cause face it now bro' - American deMOCKERYcy is pretty fukt!

Yes if ''the rest of the planet decides to do something about it'' .. there are consequences BUT no one is coming to US to attack Americans en masse. A few misguided loons who think some version of G*d will be pleased by their actions maybe BUT no armies are coming to kill Americans in their beds ... UNLIKE what America has done,for a long time now! Want to understand ISIS' rise better?! Find out about rise of The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia!

cave - bellum se ipsum alet ...

(beware - war that feeds itself)

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

US wants people to believe in ISIS to justify war

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Yes, USG ''wants people to believe in ISIS to justify war''!

BUT they totally do NOT want people to - know anything!!

Because Blind Belief in Belligerence Benefits them most!!!

e tenebris lux ...

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

Don't vote Trump write NO WAR

not enough people voted in the last government to legitimize a majority

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

"Don't vote Trump" because otherwise there'll be ... A Hell Toupee!!!

But alas, vex ye not too much!! For ye shall Over-Comb - someday!

pax ...

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

ISIL juts out but Al Qaeda still lurks. Various terrorist groups include: Boko Haram, Afghan Taliban, Khorasan group, Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda in the Arabian Penninsula, etc.

They are quite willing to kill Americans en masse. However, they are indeed well dwarfed by our very own protector armies called the police and our very large groups of home-grown domestic militiamen. Remember the Christian Soldier Song from WWII?

The U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment protects WELL-REGULATED militias but not undisciplined ones. The First Amendment protects mosques but never, ever, diminutive mosqu-itoes!

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

What "WELL REGULATED" militias are you looking to protect?! The US is a militarized nation with pistol-packing; shotgun-wielding; rifle-toting Armed Police and agents of multiple agencies, at local, county, state & national level!! What more do you want ... some kind of Hyper -Violent Civil War?!!!

I remember singing that song/hymn you link to at school but so what? You want crusades? Finally your analysis / memory and knowledge of Muslim countries seems limited to what US Corporate MSM feeds you. Right up to the early 90s & across the Muslim World - The USA was very liked and well respected!

It was seen as a country which had overturned their Colonial Overlords and constructed - a moral nation based on a kind of ''Abrahamic Principles''! The conservative Islamic ''Anti-anti-religious'' world view - was ''Anti-Secular and Anti-Communist''. The Muslim World was in the main (bar re.Palestine) US allies. Lot changed in One Generation, huh? Meditate on how and why but without prejudice perhaps. Also fyi see:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

some kind of Hyper -Violent Civil War?!!!

like Iraq with NATO airstrikes

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

bullets only work once

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Right and remember that ''Obama made the decision in early 2009 to block the Justice Department from criminally investigating and prosecuting Cheney and his fellow torturers, as well as to protect them from foreign investigations and even civil liability sought by torture victims.

''Obama did that notwithstanding a campaign decree that even top Bush officials are subject to the rule of law and, more importantly, notwithstanding a treaty signed in 1984 by Ronald Reagan requiring that all signatory states criminally prosecute their own torturers.

''Obama’s immunizing Bush-era torturers converted torture from a global taboo and decades-old crime into a reasonable, debatable policy question, which is why so many GOP candidates are now openly suggesting its use.

Alas .. ''... now, the Obama administration has moved from legally protecting Bush-era War Criminals to honoring and gushing over them in public. Yesterday (12/3) - the House of Representatives unveiled a marble bust of former Vice President Cheney, which until a person of conscience vandalizes or destroys it - will reside in 'Emancipation Hall' of the U.S. Capitol.''! {with added paragraphing} from:

So it now seems that in a Culture of Violence - homicidal psychopaths deserve to be honoured!! WTF?!!!

spero meliora ...

[-] 4 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Refer Cheney to the International Criminal Court or "try" him in the Peoples' Court.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

If only that was possible when Corporate Democraps suck up to and ''honor'' Dick Cheney & his ilk!!! The ICC in The Hague is ready and able to handle such a case, but how do you propose we do that and who does the ''referring''?!! The Crime of Unprovoked War of Aggression was The Supreme Crime, at the trials in Nuremburg btw and Nazis were hung for that and less! Again I append the following; read it and weep:

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

There are at least one hundred states parties to the Rome Statue. I presume that at least one of them will be gutsy enough to bring charges and initiate an investigation by the International Criminal Court.

Israel had tried tortures before and found them ineffective. The U.S. knew that fully well and still rolled into the turd. Whoever was responsible (Dick & mega-Wiener are candidates) must be held accountable.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

When Obomber and John ''57 Varieties'' Kerry honor 'Deadshot Dick'' do you really think anyone else in the world ... ''will be gutsy enough'' to indict Cheney?! I don't!! All are too scared of The Empire for that!!!

Yes - Israel ''tried tortures before'' & though they were ineffective measures for intel - the Israelis realised that it was a Very Effective Psyop Technique - as a psychological weapon of Mass Terror at a Collective Consciousness BUT even more effectively at: The Collective Unconconciousness!!! Now maybe the U.S. has realised thAt too!! Nevertheless - yes, I agree that ultimately .. ALL ''must be held accountable''! Fyi:

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

"The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”Sep 13, 2011

unlawful must be removed. all practice of control by fear of violence must end regardless of government position,

Supreme Court

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Can we really ride the Feral Burro of Incontinence into New Jerusalem on Palm Sunday?

Matt, maybe you can be the Messiah. Was that the fatwa of the Supreme Court of the Peoples?

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

the FBI should define terms based on fact not law

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

expand open communication with cellphone towers

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

I doubt that our horribly overworked burro knows the differences between laws, Dick, sausages, mega-Wiener, or facts. Feed it anything slippery and juicy should do, such as Slick Willie or GOOP.

Anyways, here's evidence for a charge of negligence. Otto von Bismarck said of preventive wars as being "in a way [commit] suicide from fear of death (gewissermaßen Selbstmord aus Besorgniß vor dem Tode)."

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

we can't get bernie to make any statement against war practices these days

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Re. The US-MIC - you are right!!! However, this fact stands as Full & Final Testament, to just how fkn Powerful The Banking / Corporate Military / Industrial / Security / Incarceration complex is in The US!!

It's almost as if Sanders has to try to get in by stealth.. especially when The Same Corporations Own The Armaments Companies AND The MSM! For insights into US/Global Corporatocracy, do consider:

fiat lux ...

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

just another diversionary candidate

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Maybe but are you suggesting Trump and Sanders are somehow the same? Or even somehow remotely similar? The USA, is uniquely a country that has been on some kind of War Footing for a 100 years! Do you think that there is some kind of switch to flick to stop that in an instant?!! OR, is it likely to be more analogous to a dimmer switch, that needs to be turned down first before you can turn it off completely?!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

economic-elites-will-only-give-up-power-and-wealth-when-

their force is not able to keep it

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Are The US 99% better off with Trump or Sanders now? Who is truer to core OWS values? You are now going to have to face those questions in your own mind sooner or later Matt - because 2016 PotUS race is less than a year away.Meanwhile in support of your excellent Anti-War postings, I append these links

fiat pax ...

[-] -2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

both talk of war as a given, and I reject both

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Pulled Over For Making Eye Contact----- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIVqobiqwRA

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

I just can't believe my eyes or ears sometimes re. the cops in The U$A!!!

RIP David Kassick, 59 shot like a fkn dog by a paranoid cop in a gun ridden country and with the cops thinking they are in an arms race and so not sure who they are supposed to ''Protect and Serve'' - other than themselves & their 1% and 0.01% Overlords!! Fkn Unbelievable! Who thinks this is ok in the USA?

sic transit gloria mundi ....

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Getting worse by the day.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Maybe consider - ''License to Kill'', by Jimmie Moglia ...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42022.htm

et caveat ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Very telling article.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

''A domestic terrorist act every 64 days makes a mockery of the trillions spent on the ‘war on terror’. And the ‘war on terror’ is a gift that keeps on giving to a selected few. In this philosophy, little is more profitable than wars and disasters. ‘Disaster capitalism’ is accepted as inevitable and self-evident, and even belongs to the current lexicon.

''Secondly, calling the mass-shooters terrorists, may cause some to question what is the difference between nine people assassinated in a school in Roseburg, 50 wedding guests assassinated in Afghanistan by a drone operator comfortably seated in Las Vegas, and 22 medical personnel and patients exterminated by an air-raid on an Afghan Hospital.

''Here is where false consciousness comes in. It can be defined as being or remaining unaware or immune to the causal effects of the convictions and beliefs imposed upon us by the prevailing ideology.''

The above is a much more recent article by the very same author as the article ''License To Kill'' above.

pax ...

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Vigilant Citizen Sees Cops Hurting Compliant Homeless Women, So She Steps In To Stop It.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKETr5tfDTg

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

''Has the NYPD Become a Paramilitary Force?''

caveat ...

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"Bolts from the blue" re: tasers

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/05/police-tasers-deaths-the-counted

"When a heart is beating correctly, however, electricity can instead disrupt the impulses from its internal pacemaker and cause the heart to enter into a dangerous and irregular rhythm known as ventricular fibrillation, or VF. Left unaddressed, VF rapidly leads to cardiac arrest and then death."

Enough said.

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

A defibrillator works by applying a jolt of electricity to a stopped or a ''fibrillating'' heart .. in order to re-start it &/or stop the fluctuating ''fibrillations'' so that a steady heartbeat can be restored. The Heart is primarily a highly electrically active, muscular, fluid pump. Therefore - applying any massive electrical shock TO a normally working heart ... will / can, have .. The Completely Opposite Effect of potentially stopping it as - ''Left unaddressed, VF rapidly leads to cardiac arrest and then death.''!

This is NOT rocket science or even differential calculus and - even Police Officers must understand this. Ergo - Of Course Taser Deaths should be counted as deaths in PD custody. US PDs are under-funded, and under-trained and with a overly large number of ex-military, with possible PTSD complications. Far too many are used by cash strapped municipalities as de facto fine generators - but with guns. IF they are, on top of all this - RWNJs & racists, then that makes for a very bad combination, to say the least!

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

R.I.P. Laquan McDonald, 17 year-old African American boy, shot by police 16 times while walking away from them. Contrast this to the capture of the Planned Parenthood terrorist, Robert Lewis Dear, white, racist, religious extremist, endangering all the people in the Planned Parenthood center, yet he is captured alive and unhurt.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/11/28/did-white-privilege-keep-the-planned-parenthood-shooter-from-being-killed-by-police/

Sorry, but I just can't get over that contrast. It makes me sick.

Let alone the lack of acknowledgement of the similarities of the white racist religious extremists here at home vs. the Muslim religious extremist terrorists. Same thing, folks.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

RIP Laquan McDonald :-( & Robert.L.Dear is a TERRORIST - no ifs, buts or maybes!!! Americans are far more in danger of gun-toting; self-righteous; so-called-Christian; RWNJs like him, than they are from any ISIS-RWNJ-loon!! Do you doubt for one itty-bitty minute that IF he'd been black that he'd have been shot dead on the spot ... never mind the sick irony of spewing ''Pro-Life'' platitudes, while actually killing folk?!

Robert Dear was taken alive. Same for Arora Cinema shooter & any number of other White Shooters but a black man: on the floor (Eric Harris); or running away (Walter Scott); or with his hands in the air (Mike Brown); or pleading to be allowed to breathe (Eric Garner); or a child playing (Tamir Rice) or going home (Trayvon Martin) can be shot to death with minimal rhyme or reason for so called facts that later turn out to be fiction! The injustice & reality of these facts on the ground - constitute 'State Terror', in my opinion!!

Black folk have been living with exactly this kind of uber-violence from ''state servants'' ... for a LONG fkn TIME but now camera tech ... proves what they have been saying all along!! This is why - so many Right Wing White Americans, seem to need to be reminded that: a) it is a woman's right to choose & b) that..

And YES .. of course, "All Lives Matter" too - OBVIOUSLY ... but for far longer than too many white folk care to remember .. Black Lives Have Mattered Far Less! Bernie Sanders gets it but I wonder IF RWNJ-Americans (DTrump etc) are ready for that? To say''White Lives Matter''at black people is saying ''White Power And Don't You Forget It"! The 99% Struggle can not brook ANY racist bigotry, here or anywhere!!!

spero meliora ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

U.K. Police vs. U.S. Police dealing with similar knife attacks:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/london-police-knife-wielding-suspect_56636dc5e4b08e945fefcacd

"In both incidents, the suspect is holding a knife near police. But there's a glaring difference in the officers' reaction to the situation.

In the San Francisco video, far more officers respond and all of them are carrying guns, though officers later said they tried to subdue the suspect with beanbag guns before shooting him. In London, the two officers in the video carry stun guns.

In San Francisco, the suspect died in a hail of bullets. In London, the suspect was subdued.

Meanwhile, the U.K. is on its second-highest alert level, meaning a militant attack is considered highly likely.

Few officers carry firearms in the U.K. In fact, a 2006 survey of the British Police Federation, which represents all officers in the U.K., found that 82 percent of members didn't even want officers to be armed. Each police unit has its own firearms team, but police-involved incidents are routinely gun-free, according to the BBC."

So, obviously poor 17 year-old, ward of the state, Laquan McDonald, didn't have a chance.

Here are the statistics being kept by The Guardian on people killed by cops in the U.S. in 2015:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database#

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Consider: ''Adding Up the Broken Souls'', by Robert Koehler:

Which ends: ''In Chicago, a police officer shoots a teenager walking in the middle of the street 16 times, almost as though the gun took control of the officer’s consciousness. Barbara Ransby, a professor at the University of Illinois, Chicago, interviewed recently by Democracy Now, pointed out that, because of budget cuts, only about 20 Chicago police officers have received crisis intervention training.

''My God, budget cuts! In a country that’s waging perpetual war and raking in billions from the global sale of weapons. Yeah, the boy had been acting erratically. But real public safety for the city of Chicago would have included safety for Laquan McDonald, the 17-year-old killed by police officer Jason Van Dyke.

''I fear we’re reversing the evolutionary process. We’ve surrendered to simplistic, impulsive, fear-based “safety” and we’re reaping the consequences, one broken soul at a time.''

Many thanx for your powerful links, reply & comparison. A culture of violence takes time to turn around. Maybe - just maybe .. a Bernie POTUS win could kick start that Re-evolution Revolution! Solidarity bw.

dum spiro, spero ...

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[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good comment and good link.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Media promoted "tribalism" has got to go...human beings aren't sports teams and this is a far more dangerous game. When we pit "our" ethnicity against "yours"... its symptomatic of our disconnection to life...a disconnection from being and our true self nature...a disconnection from purpose. It is what we resort to when we are oppressed and desperate. Unity is the sign of authentic self and happiness born of purpose over material fluff or exerting control over others. We must not turn against each other but we must together grind this machine to a halt...our system is broken. Evil doesn't discriminate where it exists...it is a constant shifting of the soil...we can all fall into its trap if we aren't aware we are standing in it.

The above is elf's excellent comment here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/everyone-needs-to-see-this-anonymous-code-blue-201/#comment-1058330 ... from elsewhere on this increasingly important but equally horrifying, forum-post and thread.

pax ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good article. Having trouble finding your other comment.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago
[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good article. Good to know.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Thanx and ask, so ''Why Did Chicago Activists Shut Down an International Police Conference?''

per ardua ...

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Innocent Teens Racially Profiled, Assaulted By Cops Who Mistook ATM Withdrawl As A Robbery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt8qrJB4UJU

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"Bearded hipster group says police mistook them for Islamic State terrorists"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/police-called-as-bearded-hipster-group-mistaken-for-islamic-state-terrorists

Fear or Love. Which do we want to be ruled by? We must make a choice.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Seems to be a lot of people everywhere, calling the police over every little thing.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

RIP Deven Guilford. Seems to me, we should be running from the police. Check out this video of this poor 17 year old who was a little smart with a cop, only to get himself freaking killed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwp2pPkXUac

RIP Deven Guilford who merely flashed his bright lights and tried to defend his own rights only to end up dead within minutes, in America.

17 year olds can be sassy, can be anti-authoritarian. Surely we can do better as a nation than this. Can we try to hire cops who aren't on power trips? No one should be killed for flashing bright lights and not having a driver's license. But, Deven was. RIP.

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"The only common factor in so many of these incidents is the Israeli training, teaching American police to mimic Israeli treatment of the Palestinian people. It seems American police have caught Israel’s national obsession of fearfulness and feigned victimization."

Just about the worst place to have our police learn anything.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, the worst place to learn. This terrorist police thing comes from the top, and is part of a grand plan of TPTB. What we have seen so far, is a little preview.

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"The Counted - People Killed by Police in the U.S."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database#

Takes a foreign newspaper to do this, but I suppose given how embarrassing it is, that makes sense.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for posting this. Everyone needs to see this.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

" 911 - what is your emergency? "

I'm really hungry but my cupboards are pretty bare and I don't feel like going out - I don't have a phone book handy - I would have to go looking for it - Can you connect me to a Pizza Hut in My area?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Based on this 911 call, the police will have a reason to murder someone in a wheel chair.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Even if it's not a wheel chair for the handicapped but instead a wheeled desk chair.

" On Three - Toss in a handful of Flash bang grenaids and tear gas - then enter left and right with continuous automatic gun fire spraying the room "

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

This is the way they think.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

We were in fear for our lives - the 6 year old holding the puppy made a very wrong move - and we had to defend ourselves with over 150 shots to center mass - before we knew he wasn't armed.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

DEA Employees Fail Drug Testhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuHUMaC-Oto

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

National Police Misconduct Reporting Project-----Amazing. Everyone should see this. Would make a good forum post.

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Police Misconduct can come in many forms these days, for example, consider this linked video - ''After Latest Mass Shooting .. A Look at the Oregon County Sheriff Who Vowed to Ignore Gun Control Laws'': http://www.democracynow.org/2015/10/2/after_latest_mass_shooting_a_look What does he think now - & what relevance has this chart http://www.vox.com/2015/10/1/9437187/obama-guns-terrorism-deaths ?

IF guns really made citizens safe, then cops would and could not get away with much of their egregious behaviour. Guns do not make citizens any safer (quite the opposite, I'd argue), BUT these guns can and do, Give The Illusion Of That Safety & so the NRA and the gun making corporations like that very much. Cops then believe that they're in some kind of Arms Race and so, the same circle of carnage continues.

Once it was organised religion that was considered to be .. ''the opium of the masses'' .. but in the USA these days, guns have replaced religion.Maybe it'd be better if Opium Was The Religion Of The Masses as opposed to poor substitutes thereof! Then again, lots of stuff could remain undone in society but that may, in and of itself, in the final analysis, not be too bad a thing, as 2nd Amendment has been hijacked by NRA (No Real Answers!); Arms Corporations and TPTB in USG, for their own dark needs and profits!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

NYPD Cop Arrested For Stopping Cop Watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVZXCH6Vdnw

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

{ edit } I am STUNNED

Finally a proper outcome and no protest 2 force it.

EDIT -> Wait a sec . . . only suspended at this time? Lets hope the final outcome is fired criminally charged prosecuted and sentenced - his two partners as well.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

air strike them and call 'em terrorist

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Report of suspicious person?

Whats the address?

You don't know?

Well then - enie meanie miney mo . . . . . pick a supicious house for to go . . . my mother told me to pick the very best one . . . enie meanie miney mo . . .

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Well Said

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

No Criminal Charges To Be Filed Against Chicago Cop Involved In Deadly Ronald Johnson Shooting

http://abcnews.go.com/US/dash-cam-video-released-deadly-chicago-police-shooting/story?id=35622684

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

That is one that shows where the city District attorney is full of shit = can't see what happened from the tape - and is why accountability can not stop at firing the Chicago Police Chief but should include the District attorney in this instance for failure to charge and prosecute what clearly is shown (I saw a clearer video of the incident on PBS - much clearer much better focus much better lighting) to be a man shot in the back (again contradicting the police incident report where "they" said that the man turned toward them - when the tape clearly shows he did not - and the DA says that the video is not clear enough to bring charges). Now we will see what happens - NOW - that the tape has been seen by the public and the feds have decided to investigate the police department. Will public outcry bring another late charging of the killers? Perhaps the firing of the DA ? This murder by police and cover up by chain of command and the attorneys office SHIT has got to be stopped.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

government should be transparent

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for comment. Yes, Clean House.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

US Cops Seized More Property Than Was Stolen In 2014 - FBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTdkSH9inM

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

The war machine is simply making its way home.

This is what happens when horrible things happen and the people all line up and beg for more.

Its going to get a lot uglier than this folks.

Either this violence against the people continues to ramp up, or we have the usual next chapter of a nation gone bad.

Other nations band together to teach us a lesson. Yall will be real happy we got all these weapons if that happens.

Until then, keep voting for the war machine and wondering why its slowly turning its grip on you.

And just remember. What you are seeing here is NOTHING compared to what your government is doing overseas. Yet you all act horrified.

Time to wake up junior, coffee is ready.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Busted! Two Cops Charged With Murder Of 6-Yr-Old Jeremy Mardis----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAWg4eZKrE

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

RIP David Kassick, 59 - shot like a fkn dog, by a paranoid cop, in a gun ridden country & with the cops thinking they are in an arms race & also not sure who they are supposed to ''Protect and Serve'' - other than themselves & their 1% and 0.01% Overlords!! Fkn Unbelievable! Who thinks this is ok in the USA?

Sad Truth Time .. White Folk have now become so fkn sedated and mind-managed to think such things can't/won't happen to them AND been led to believe that people of colour are somehow a threat to them that they have become like sedated lambs at a wolves' dinner party and cops just think they can do wtf they want - just like they have been doing with black folk for longer than White America can even admit.

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Why are American sources so few on the murder of David Kassick?

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

'Mind Management' and the ongoing 'Manufacture of Consent' - maybe? Oh .. and the deeply Corporate Conservative and RWNJ nature of US-MSM ownership at - local, county, state and national level. White People have GOT TO STOP allowing themselvers to be frightened and resentful of people of colour who are not ''PLUS'' [People Like Us] and see, realise and act .. in their myriad collective common interests. Awareness ; Analysis ; Action is what's needed & exactly what They don't want The 99% to have/do!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"We’re being fed a series of carefully contrived fictions that bear no resemblance to reality. The powers-that-be want us to feel threatened by forces beyond our control (terrorists, shooters, bombers). They want us afraid and dependent on the government and its militarized armies for our safety and well-being. They want us distrustful of each other, divided by our prejudices, and at each other’s throats. Most of all, they want us to continue to march in lockstep with their dictates.

Tune out the government’s attempts to distract, divert and befuddle us and tune into what’s really going on in this country, and you’ll run headlong into an unmistakable, unpalatable truth: the moneyed elite who rule us view us as expendable resources to be used, abused and discarded." From your link.

Turns out that so far in 2015, we’ve had 274 days and 294 mass shootings by our own nutters here on American soil.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/01/2015-274-days-294-mass-shootings-hundreds-dead/

I put this here because today approximately 2 dozen governors have said that they will not accept Syrian refugees. It's very embarrassing to me as an American that such ignorance makes its way into such high office. Very sad. Clearly we have problems here with our own crazies.

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

The 2 dozen State Governors who signed that shared statement should be ashamed and embarrassed, NOT you! The domestic ''fear,loathing & hate agenda'' is evoked, stoked and provoked by the very same Neoliberal - ''War; Security & Incarceration'' Industrial Complexes who are also very gung-ho for Neocon Foreign/Imperial Policy. Not often that I link to Obomber related links but the exceptions prove the rule..

The thing about US' ''crazies'' is that they're now in charge and running the show via their MSM lackeys! Gun ridden US society is a killing ground, with US Police as the biggest gang in town .. but who cares?

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

"U.S. Opinion of Jewish Refugees in 1939 Matches Racial Panic of GOP Governors Over Syrians"

From your alternet link: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/us-opinion-jewish-refugees-1939-matches-racial-panic-gop-governors-over-syrians

"The Syrian war has raged on for over four years, killing an estimated 250,000, with the U.S. and its allies sharing at least some responsibility for the conflict, having shipped arms and funded the Syrian opposition since at least 2012."

We really better start learning from history. What has happened in Syria and the rise of ISIS, all while Ms. Clinton was Secretary of State, by the way, is not dissimilar to the rise of Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Why is it that humans don't learn from past mistakes? Or is this a planned chaos? I hate to think the latter but it appears that it may be so.

http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Frankly, we have to concede that ''planned chaos'' - in the short and medium term, in view of private long term goals - is probably the case! Pilger is right on the ball re. the comparison with The Khmer Rouge & that ignorance amongst the General Public is a desired effect of the MSM. + In compliment, consider ...

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

US increases refugee number through bombing Syria oil infrastructure

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Every time we drop a bomb we increase numbers of refugees and terrorists.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cop Violently Attacks Peaceful Female Student Sitting In Her Desk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9pcplqHhE

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

''Terrorizing Students: The Criminalization of Children in the US Police State'', by H.A.Giroux:

''One recent example of a particularly disturbing incident of police brutality was captured in a series of videos recorded at Spring Valley High School in South Carolina. Prior to the incident being filmed, a young Black student named Shakara took out her cell phone in class. The teacher asked her for it, and when she refused to hand it over, she was asked to leave the class. The teacher called the vice principal. Rather than attempt to defuse the situation, the vice principal called for a school resource officer. At this point, Officer Ben Fields enters the classroom. One of Shakira's classmates, Niya Kenney, immediately asked her classmates to begin filming because, as she put it, "I told them to get the cameras out, because we know his reputation - well, I know his reputation."

''In what follows, one of the videos records the following: Officer Ben Fields approaches the young woman, appears to give her no time to stand up and proceeds to grab her left arm while placing his right arm around her neck; he then lifts her desk, pulls her out of her seat, slams her to the ground and drags her across the floor before handcuffing her.

''The video is difficult to watch, given the extreme and disproportionate violence used against this young Black woman. She was arrested, as was Kenny, who both filmed the incident and loudly protested the treatment of Shakara. Fields was fired soon afterwards, but incredulously, both students are being charged with "disturbing schools, a crime punishable by up to 90 days in jail or a thousand dollar fine."

''The increasing visibility of police brutality in schools and in the streets speaks to a larger issue regarding the withering of democracy in the United States and the growing lawlessness that prevails in a society in which violence is one of the few resources left to use to address social problems. The US is paying a horrible price for turning governance at all levels over to people for whom violence serves as the default register for addressing important social issues.

''As the movement for Black Lives has made clear, the Spring Valley High School case and others are part of a larger trend that has turned schools across the country into detention centers and educators into hapless bystanders as classroom management is ceded to the police.

''What we see in this incident (and in many others that have escaped national attention because they are not caught on cell phones) are the rudiments of a growing police state. Violence is now a normalized and celebrated ideal for how the United States defines itself - an ideal that views democracy as an excess or, even worse, a pathology. This is something Americans must acknowledge, interrogate and resist if they don't want to live under a system of total terror and escalating violence.''

Re. your now removed vid. link, here's a replacement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRcqHVp_Xo

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Removed the link-----symptom of a big problem. Thank you for re-posting.

View from your video shows cop attack put her spine in jeopardy.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Also fyi, do consider: ''Assaulted S.C. Student Is A Recent Orphan Living In Foster Care ...''

The violent ass masquerading as a Police Officer didn't give a shit what harm he caused Shakara.

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

All so sad. Where is our rotten stinking constitutional lawyer president on all this?

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Ordering Drone Strikes?!!! He's a child of the US-MIC!! Ergo, a Psycho!

fiat pax ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, Obama is busy with drone strike murders.

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Because he's a ''Manchurian Candidate'' - NOT of a foreign power - but of The US Deep State - maybe!

sub rosa?

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

good point

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 years ago

Remember this WTFU call https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM by Rep. Dennis Kucinich?

So, errrrrmmm - what changed exactly? 2016 POTUS Election could be more important than we realise!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

Freedom of Assembly washed candidate debate hashtags by robot accounts

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cop Pulls Gun On Kids Having Snowball Fight.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gzsBGybhF8

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Police Kill More People Than Those Killed In Mass Shootings But No One Is Trying To Take Their Guns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvR57rrRVIA

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cop Charged With Felony After Video Shows Him Smashing In Suspect's Face With His Shotgun----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA9cZfT0mD8

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Watch As Cops Do Nothing While Their Colleague Beats A Handcuffed Prisoner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUHsbefhoI

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cop Tasers Man In Back Complying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOYaxYsFOnQ

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

70 year old man using golf club as cane, not doing anything wrong gets harassed by cop----- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf93TlSyw_E

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

The officer was later fired! I like that - I LIKE THAT A LOT !

Wonder if that stellar decision was helped by the release of the dash-cam footage.

Plenty like her still out there waiting for their walking papers.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

The fine author presenting the video made the statement "Trained Behavior"-----Now we are getting closer to understanding the heart of the matter.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Pretty piss poor training - unless one is looking to enrage society.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Intent is to enslave society.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Always has been - this police abuse by design - is gonna blow-up in their (TPTB) face.

[+] -7 points by poof (-10) 9 years ago

This is your intent? You and the conspiracy theorists.

[-] 6 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

stinkbombthrasymaque

[-] 0 points by poof (-10) 9 years ago

You had pretty piss poor training when you started being moderator and banned almost everyone here.

[-] -1 points by poof (-10) 9 years ago

You should have been fired when you were a mod Dan.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23824) 9 years ago

Nine police officers arrest unarmed black teen after 'jaywalking' 9/17/15 – video

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/sep/18/nine-police-officers-arrest-unarmed-black-teen-jaywalking-stockton-video

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

2 Hero EMTs Take On 4 Cops To Stop Abuse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYPWp08lzGk

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Police Called On College Students With Telescopes Thought To Be Guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WElBYq3Zab8

[-] 4 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

Of course. The people have elected a rabid police state.

They complain, but almost 50% of the people want this shit.

Democracy has been hijacked.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

the republic representation has lost its favor

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Anonymous Police Brutality Against Homeless Guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evsgbK81afU

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

OMG & WOW! He's a ''poet and an artist'' but alas .. his oppressors are such stupid violent pigs, man!

Further to that totally amazing & incredible video, please maybe further consider this relevant article ... http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/32228-why-america-s-inequality-problem-is-about-a-lot-more-than-money - and I really didn't know whether to laugh or cry at your amazing video - so did a bit of both, lol.

We should honor such brave resistance to oppression & is it my imagination - OR did his ''Archangels'' actually arrive and liberate him? Fkn A! Like you often say brother, 'Nev1' ''Everyone needs to see this''! Also a MASSIVE TWINKLE @ U ... conveyed by word & spirit - because I don't have a vote here sadly.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, the Archangels arrived. And, inspiring heroic "brave resistance to oppression" by citizen.

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Your incredible video ... really needs to be seen by all who read here [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evsgbK81afU ] This guy is waaaay more ''hero'' than John 'Warmonger' McCain ever could or would be BUT he'd be DEAD already, IF he was black (despite invoking Angels, Archangels or otherwise!).Finally consider - 'PD Revenue Raising' point to Matt too, as so many layers of Cops in US are doing that, imo.

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Admiral John S. McCain Jr. helped LBJ cover up the attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. In compliment to your great link, please also consider .. http://www.mintpressnews.com/new-evidence-proves-israel-attacked-uss-liberty-orders-kill-294-americans/198757/ and see ''McCain Family Secret: The Cover-up'' http://criminalstate.com/press/Chapter4.pdf - Sen.John McCain is a scion and product of The US-MIC. His warmongering only comes second to his perfidy & you/we are right to expose him ... at every turn but like you yourself say: ''TPTB want to rewrite history'' and so we fight for memory and history itself!

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Never forget the USS Liberty. Forth eight years, and no justice yet. Admiral McCain has dirty hands..

Thank you for articles

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

It will be the 50th Anniversary of the attack on The USS Liberty in just a li'l less than 2 year's time, so - I suspect more will be made of it then .. but can you actually imagine such amnesia or acceptance IF the perpetrators had been anybody else?! + Further fyi, consider... http://www.globalresearch.ca/uss-liberty-government-betrayal-and-cover-up-finally-exposed/25186 The struggle for memory and history continues!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

"The political pressure was too much," Helms[the CIA director at the time of the Israel's attack on the U.S.S. Liberty] said.

The keepers at all U.S. intelligence agencies, especially the NSA, should take heed of Israel's attack on the U.S.S. Liberty. When it is politics against your life and liberty, the U.S. politicians will make sure that their political advantage will take priority over your life and liberty. Did Ambassador Stevens miss this important lesson before visiting Benghazi?

The U.S. dollar bill's Great Seal of the United States needs a redesign. "Politik über alles![Politics above everything!]" should be the motto above our 40-pound gigantic obese Chicken scratching for more grubs under the Star-of-David. The shield on the Chicken's breast should read "Lege ex immunitatem [Immunity from prosecution]" The arrows clutched by the Chicken should be broken because the rescue attempts were politiked and recalled. The olive branch should hold the dollar signs showing the foreign aids holding the peace between the Great Pyramid and the Star of David achieved at Camp David by one who carts. The all-seeing-eye of the keepers at the NSA on top of the Great Pyramid should be labeled as the U.S.S. Liberty.

[-] 2 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

If indeed ''U.S. politicians will make sure that their political advantage will take priority over your life and liberty.'' - then perhaps that would explain the incredible levels that The Security/Surveillance State has reached, given how ... it wants to stop any questioning of ''The Official 9/!! Conspiracy Theory'' narrative, which can not withstand even the most elementary scrutiny and/or analysis.

The US Deep State/Israeli Intel./Saudi Arabian Intel nexus behind that fateful day nearly 14 years ago - will now do anything and everything - NOT to be found out - ergo total security and surveillance is what their desire/need to prevent disclosure of a truer 9/!! meme-equation, which may go something like this:

9/!! - NORAD + (WTC1 + WTC2) + {WTC7 x WTF!} + [Pentagon - Plane + GlobalHawk / CruiseMissile] + UA93 - C.S.I. = Coup d'Etat to enable ''The Clash of Civilisations'' - so beloved and essential to some!

Re. Ambassador Stevens .. well if we lay/lie with dogs - we get fleas! Stevens was on one hand, a fluent Arabic speaker, with a deep knowledge of Arab societies and culture - and on the other hand, either very involved OR (conversely and paradoxically) NOT involved at all .. with all the CIA covert help that enabled enabled ''The Rat Line'' of Jihadists/Weapons from Libya TO Syria .. but of course we are NOT supposed to know anything about all the goings on at that CIA Benghazi FOB or about what's behind ISIS/IS! Fyi..

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

http://www.mintpressnews.com/seymour-hersh-benghazi-attack-a-consequence-of-weapons-rat-line-to-syria/189261/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-efforts-to-arm-jihadis-in-syria-the-scandal-behind-the-benghazi-undercover-cia-facility/5377887

''Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive''!

And so all hail The Great Big Fail re. ''The All Seeing Eye''! ~}~ (o) ~{~

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

US used 9!! to restrict camera use in government building in order to restrict potential witnesses to public affairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyT1buoyTnY

.

If we seed the bed of other countries with weapons| a number of those weapons will go off

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

Thanks for the 'Hip-Hop Essay' .. Powerful Stuff! Btw and as an aside to my comment to 'grapes' - The Pentagon is THE MOST secure & surveilled building in The USA but tho' all CCTV videos from nearby were seized, there's NO evidence of any plane crash there! The few frames of video that were released to back up 'The Plane Theory' .. actually look more like a cruise missile! Finally, don't forget Transport Sec. Norman Mineta's candid testimony, to the 9/!! Commission .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y - and of course don't forget those there whose - ''purpose was to document the event'', so see and try to calmly consider this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X63CQ-dXkwU

However, in keeping with the subject matter of this thread: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32630-police-in-texas-hospital-shoot-patient-in-the-chest An Alarming Article.Only in Texass? Or in US too?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Disturbing to say the LEAST - I wonder what Kerry's real story is like.

And yeah - Manchurian candidates in office - subject to former captures blackmail - fortunately never a POTUS.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Recently, McCain articles about his Hanoi Hilton behavior have been taken down.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Good thing it is the internet - as all of that stuff still exists somewhere.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

TPTB want to rewrite history.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Yeah they sure as hell do! A major part of that on-going effort is that they want an uneducated population. That poor education is working out for them so far in the red states as the average worker votes against their own best interests and keeps putting corp(se)oRAT bought thugs back into office!

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

Thats cute that you see red states and blue states.

You realize its really only about 10% and 10% that really like Democrats or Republicans in any given state, right?

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

You are from Florida - you had that wonderful red state education - you are an idiot. You are proof of the hypothesis.

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[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

I'm from Rochester you fool.

And Im assuming I could dance circles around you if we both had to take an iq test.

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Rochester Minnesota? New York? or Rochester from Jack Benny? or?

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

New York. And sorry, I was asleep while you went insane on the private messages last night lol.

Some of us have to work to support you fuckers :)

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

And Im assuming I could dance circles around you if we both had to take an iq test.

That sounds like you = Ass-u-ming.

So your stupidity comes from prolonged exposure to roofing tar?

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[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

Manchurian candidates - the idea that a personality could split double and function in a single person

doesn't make any sense when one considers

that our minds are open connective containers

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Run that one by Sarah Silverman & Dick Van Dyke. They may have some counseling advice to offer to you.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

I already asked for an opinion on whether the DOD should be calling people terrorist

perhaps I should have been more direct

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Perhaps you should work on being coherent. Have a sane individual read your comments prior to your sending them off.

Were you brain damaged in the navy while tending nuclear reactors?

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

I little incoherence makes me vulnerable to attack

Matt Holck ‏@Matt_Holck 3m3 minutes ago

. @NadavRaz @IHilgendorf @SarahKSilverman I asked for an opinion on whether the #DOD should be calling people terrorist NO ?

NSA @NSA

Dick Van Dyke ‏@NadavRaz

@Matt_Holck @IHilgendorf @SarahKSilverman @nsa because they're not real issues

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

police pulled my over for missing a court date that I didn't miss

allegedly

confiscated and toed my car

paid $500 to get it out

and had to go back to LA courts again to clear the mistake I hadn't made

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

That's outrageous & maybe you should consider legal action and maybe pursue the matter in the 'Small Claims Court' yourself. IF an false confiscation cost you time and money, then you deserve redress - as 'Revenue Raising Cops' are an injustice upon The 99% in the U$A. This will continue unless challenged.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

The "Small Claims Court" probably won't give Matt redress because it is often staffed by old Jews and Jewesses. Even a lawyer who may come to help Matt is probably another Jew or Jewess. Why would God send Jesus to condemn and accuse if the Jews and Jewesses had Justice on Earth?

Matt paid the $500 to the towing company for the service rendered for towing and storing his car allegedly per court order. What is the legal basis for Matt to collect the $500 from the "Small Claims Court?" The court did not tow or store his car. Matt has to show that there was court instruction to the towing company to tow his car. Do you think the court will divulge such information or will it drag the matter on indefinitely till Matt loses his patience? What if the court upon injunction by a superior court charge Matt an exorbitant amount of money to search for and copy such alleged court instruction? Wouldn't Matt just get back to square one or negative one?

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

I'm sure Matt's $500 loss will be someone else's gain - be it The Court or the Towing Company (which I had not thought about) but to be honest, my interest in the matter is somewhat limited. However, given the hysterical nature of your reply, the obvious questions are; WTF are you on and/or - on about, here?

On the important matter of US Police Departments becoming State/Municipal fine & debt collection agencies - which was my main point btw, consider: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/05/ferguson-shows-how-a-police-force-can-turn-into-a-plundering-collection-agency/

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Many U.S. municipalities have this sort of rackets going on so it is really nothing remarkable to anyone not harassed (i.e., mainly Caucasians). It is a symptom of the voters not willing to increase taxes to fund municipal services at a sufficient level.

I am on the Collective Unconscious. I am on about, here to make the Unconscious Conscious.

[-] 1 points by lugano (1221) 9 years ago

I'm all for raising conciousness and as such in this and other wider matters, please try to also consider: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/20/why-us-police-are-out-of-control/ - Private Opulence and Public Penury, has become a signature feature of The U$A .. with people actually resenting modern things like ''Universal Healthcare'' - which Canada, UK and most modern countries have (incl. Iraq, Libya and Syria had before they were destroyed). Now please consider, that here is insight into why folk can't have nice things .. https://www.warresisters.org/sites/default/files/2015%20pie%20chart%20-%20high%20res.pdf

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Another Horrible Example Of Police State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlR6fyOqdZs

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Black-man lying on ground

I don't know about U But I was @ home watching TV & I was scared!

So much worse 4 t cop?

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/756626119676334080

Black-man lying on ground This calls 4 split second decision making Shoot SHOOT SHOOT damn it he's lying down & obviously black . . . um dangerous

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Thank you for posting this. Another hysterical cowardly cop. Wondering if this cop was trained in Israel.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

New Video Of Alton Smith Killing By Baton Rouge Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z48gGR9mDTk

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Shooting By Minnesota Police Caught On Video:

RIP Philando Castile in Minnesota & Alton Sterling in Louisiana - AND ... the other over 500 people who have been Murdered By Cop in 2016 alone .. so far!!! WhenTF does this genocidal war on US' Black and Economically Oppressed People end?!! When will the USA's Body Politic truly accept that - Black Lives Matter and start to restrain and retrain trigger happy cops who think that their own safety is paramount?!

momento mori ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23824) 8 years ago

Black Lives Matter must be the priority of every politician in the United States. All politicians who do not make Black Lives Matter a true priority, but just a voiced objective with no action, must be voted out.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''Don't Move (Don't F#%king Move)'', by Kathy Kelly:

From which:''In the US neighborhoods where people like Alton Sterling most risk summary execution, residents cannot be faulted for concluding that the U.S.' government and society don’t mind treating their homes as warzones; that lives of innocent people caught up in these brutal wars do not matter provided the safety and property of the people outside, and of the people sent in to quell disorder, are rigorously protected.''

ad iudicium

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23824) 7 years ago

Philando Castile's murderer acquitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/police-shooting-trial-philando-castile.html?mcubz=0

Shameful. Reach for your identity card, get shot. Don't reach for it, get shot.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

Pregnant Charleena Lyles, 32 killed by Seattle P.D., in front of her children after she called to report a burglary! Fkn Hell! Also, sorry I couldn't read your link - because I may get too angry, however - RIP & Justice For Philando and Charleena and oh, so many others right across USA!!!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23824) 7 years ago

Charleena Lyles, RIP, needed healthcare. In particular she needed mental health care. She didn't get it. She got shot by police instead. Nope, they couldn't just taze her. And, like you say, right in front of her children they shot her dead after she called them!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/20/opinion/charleena-lyles-seattle-police-shooting.html?mcubz=0

We have to fight back so she doesn't die in vain and maybe the world will, in the future, treat her children better than it treated her.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23824) 7 years ago

Black Lives Matter! Sad situation in St. Louis.

"St. Louis protesters march in upscale malls, suburbs during day; evening turns violent"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-jason-stockley-lamar-smith-protests-20170916-story.html

Violence is a result of despair.

"Sam Thomas, who was helping his friend clean up the glass from the shattered windows of his business, OSO, a clothing and accessories boutique, said he understood why people were angry. The U.S. justice system is broken and needs to be fixed, Thomas said.

"I'm not saying this is the right way to fix it," he said of the damage.

"The window isn't murdered. Nobody is going to have a funeral for the window. We can replace it."

Interesting. I agree with him that violence is never good, but maybe considering the roots of that violence, the despair, the injustice that is causing that despair, is the way out of this mess.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 years ago

Indeed ''Violence is a result of despair'' & that violence - is most often meted out on the most despairing, both at home and abroad ...

From your link: ''Prosecutors said Stockley planted a gun in Smith's car after the shooting. The officer's DNA was on the weapon but Smith's wasn't. Dashcam video from Stockley's cruiser recorded him saying he was "going to kill this (expletive)." Less than a minute later, he shot Smith five times.

''Stockley's lawyer dismissed the comment as "human emotions" during a dangerous pursuit. St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson, who said prosecutors didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Stockley murdered Smith, said the statement could be ambiguous.''

Thanx for your link. The mind boggles and the heart hurts. RIP .. Patrick Harmon; Anthony Lamar Smith and the far, far, far too many others .. killed across the USA, some detailed in this tweet and these links:

"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear." {Harry S.Truman .. (1884-1972) - 33rd US President}

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Thank you for post with links. Shocking. 1,152 police killings n 2015.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

That Violence Begets Violence - is an absolute axiom. The events in Dallas are the direct result of the drip, drip, drip of the continuous ''Murder By Cop'' across the USA.The situation is further compounded by the easy availability of weapons of war. There is no justification .. FOR the murder of cops in Dallas. However, there are reasons for it. Denial of this - will only lead to more of the same. Obomber presides over a Culture Of Violence at home & abroad. USA needs a root and branch change of its ethos. Black Lives Matter - like All Lives Matter; Occupy Wall Street & Occupy Your Streets; Love Trumps Hate but Hate Leads To Hate.The USA needs to look deeply within & resist the knee jerk reactionary responses that the likes of tRUMP & his ilk will propose. Soft Hearts & Open Minds need to come to the fore now.

pax, amor et lux .. spero!

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

It's time to ban picture/video-taking phones. People need to be protected as mushrooms in Microsoft's default state. Blue screen. Play the wine-dark lobster on the platter, for Greater America.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''We have to face that when the U.S. acts as self-appointed “global policeman” ... what it does to poor nations resembles what those two officers did to Alton Sterling. We must also temper the selfish and unreasonable fears for our own safety - with the knowledge that others also want safe and stable lives. We must build community by lessening inequality. We must swear off making the world our battlefield and be appalled to hear the U.S. government seem to tell the world - "I will kill you if you f---ing move."

fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

They don't move, and still get shot.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

RIP Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge; Philando Castile in Minnesota; Off.Michael J. Smith; Off.Lorne Ahrens; Off.Brent Thompson; Off.Michael Krol and Off.Patrick Zamarripa in Dallas ... and all those others mentioned on this very important thread.

''We are fighting for a world in which death at the hands of senseless violence -- including the violence of the state or vigilantes, and the poisoning of the planet by pollution and war -- is a distant memory of an antiquated society long ago. Understanding that our liberation is key to the larger fight to end all suffering is how we may save ourselves. It is how we may save our world. We have nothing to lose but our chains.''

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Seemingly endless trail of atrocities. More than likely, Soros (and the like) is making money off all this.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''The cry of "Black Lives Matter!" is not a proposal that white lives or police lives or soldiers' lives or any lives do not matter. It is a lament over the disproportionate targeting of blacks by police shootings. The trick is to understand the shootings as the enemy, the militarizing and weaponizing policies as the enemy, and not some group of people.

''The murders on 9/11 were not rightly understood. The enemy was murder, not Saudis or foreigners or Muslims. Now hundreds of times those murders have been added in response, making murder the big victor and peace the big loser. With no end in sight.

''We must not go on trying to solve a problem ... with the same tools that created it. We must - in fact, proclaim that "All Lives Matter." But .. if that is meant to include only the 4% of human lives contained within the United States, it will fail. We must stop training people to imagine that violence works - and hoping they will only use their violent skills abroad among the 96% of people who don't matter.'' - from:

fiat justitia ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Good article.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Off-Duty NY Cop Fatally Shooting Black Man Delrawn Small - Just As Protests Sweep Country!

fkn hell!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Very telling link.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

OMG! Out of control PD - again!! Check This SH!T OUT!!!

''24-year-old Patrick Mumford was sitting in his own car in February, 2016 when he was confronted by three Savannah-Chatham Metro Police Officers, who were serving a warrant for another man, Michael Clay.

''The lead officer confronts Patrick but does not believe Patrick when he truthfully identifies himself to the officer, twice. Patrick rightfully asks the officers what is the matter and to see the arrest warrant they say they are serving.

''Fearful and confused, Patrick retreats into the passenger seat of his car. Within 38 seconds of his initial introduction to the officers, the lead officer is ordering Patrick to be tased for non-compliance.

''It takes a violent use of force for officers to realize what we already know: they have the wrong guy.

''Rather than apologize, the officers rationalize and justify their actions to horrified neighbors and even Patrick's parents. These rationalizations include the repeated false statement that the officers asked Patrick for his ID.

''Patrick is arrested for obstruction. As a non-violent drug offender serving in a first-offender probation program, a pending probation violation could cost him his job, his college education, and seven years in prison: all for sitting in his own car, minding his own business, and telling the truth.''

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Terrible behavior displayed by cops, is a top down problem. TPTB think they are in control, but actually "Have A Tiger By The Tail". They think they can cause a violent conflict, and end it when ever they want. Their " Black Swan" is coming.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Telling an officer that you have a permit to carry and following that up by saying that you are indeed armed (apparently a huge mistake), while then telling the officer that you are going to get your ID from your pocket (everything other than you stating that you have a gun on you is ignored) - you reach for your identification (as you just told the police officer who is holding their gun pointed at you that you were going to do) - results in the officer shooting you to death. No animosity ever displayed towards the officer = and you are still dead (murdered).

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

No win situation. Things are sinking fast.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Things are sinking fast.

Damn straight:

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/751589597751218177

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Woman 'Deprived Of Water' Dies In South Carolina Jail

That can not be considered as anything other than premeditated murder.

[-] 3 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

It's outsourcing to splinter responsibility and ration healthcare by screening emergency room patients for outstanding warrants. Data walk, chew gums, and talk at the same time, to cull the herd.

"No one could tell The Post and Courier how law enforcement got word of the warrant as she lay in the hospital last summer." -- Der Anschluss für alles! Blow fly compound eyes?

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

Never-Say-Anything took on moonlighting in this booming economy of ours - as Lieutenant Data of law enforcement to rat on emergency room patients who died and who will be murdered.

Blow fly compound eyes of 'der Anschluss für alles' may turn out to be Say-Anything of the Never-Say-Anything. It's now comfortable enough for the U.S. to admit that it's circumventing its Constitution's Fourth Amendment.

See: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/

The pilot culling of the herd at the hospital emergency room was a resounding success. "The Police - Every Breath You Take"

Sieg Heil! Herr Drumpf oder Kaiser Drumpf? Wir kommen gleich zurück.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Exactly.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Cop Pepper-Sprays Peaceful Teacher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8WIF8jy80

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

IDF impunity? Remember, US cops trained in Israel.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tURgFNjP8M

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Long Beach Cops Purposely Shoot Unarmed Manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcN4och8_yc

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Top down problem. KKK Nazi cops are weapons of war, of the elite. War Crimes.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Like that blessed & brave amazing poet-guy in the video above ... may Archangels watch over you and Mrs.Nevada2 this Yule/Xmas/Solstice&NY & beyond. Have a good one N1 & here are some old Po-Po related punk/reggae tunes by ''The Clash'' for u, tho' u may need to adjust the volume levels to taste ;-)

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Officer Acquitted Over Kick That Knocked Out Unarmed Man, Broke His Jaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpOIAaG-gcU

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Anonymous #Sandra Was Murdered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2pVJl6AmbI

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cop Attempts To Murder Dog - Woman Lunges between - Cop Arrests And Assaults Her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRd-zSTXI7w

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Another Cop School Assault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHprEmJd1HI

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Austin Police Brutal Beat Down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02o4rluRP5Q

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Texas Student Spent 52 Days In A Coma After Being Tased By Police At School

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33430-texas-student-spent-52-days-in-a-coma-after-being-tased-by-police-at-school

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Video capture of assault and battery - released to public - definitely got this cop fired. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/27/1440544/-Sheriff-calls-in-FBI-after-deputy-caught-violently-arresting-a-female-high-school-student-VIDEO

Tape em and expose em - it does help.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

This video is getting around fast. The child probably has enough problems, and then this. Am so angry. Glad that another student came forward heroically. And thanks to the student with the camera. This cop needs Hard Time.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Finally starting to see this type of incident get coverage on MSM.

No doubt the MSM is starting to show some of these items that have gone viral - because people are seeing the videos on the internet and are asking - where the fuck is the news coverage.

Here is another ugly incident - so far does not look like charges will be filed. (go to the YouTube link as there are several videos of the incident the 1st couple don't have sound) http://kos.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=d5B3iVKXJ2sdKs6J8fPPhZh4KHp1LCEI

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Good point about MSM. Have a feeling that cops are going to see a backlash.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

It really helps that Bernie has made it a standard part of his campaign speech - raising public awareness.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Anonymous Smash The Police state https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-CBZgrmxdk

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

How a Schoolyard Quarrel Is Dealt With In A Police State https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL8Y86na2Uc

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Hheeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy . . . . there ya go . . no conflict . . . . just two kids zapped (anyone have a heart condition? ). Officer was not in danger due to proper police procedure. . . . . . . .

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cops shot man in wheel chair--Cops claim gun--can't see a gun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pglP2Hl6IyM

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

That was just too sick - man in wheel chair - unable to evade anything - shot multiple times - for being . . . . . . . WHAT ????????????? being intimidating in a wheel chair?????

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, too sick. Many cops from all over US displaying same warped behavior. Possible reason------Israeli training of US Police.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Man in wheel chair = likely to be armed? rather than legged. Hey - - - - they were in fear for their lives . . . . . . does not matter if that was before they got out of bed . . . . . . . . . .

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you Citizen Reporters.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

LA Sheriff Deputy----Bad----Slugs handicapped women in face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsqLf-Ne8QY

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

I remember that - 2011 - a good moment caught on tape.

[-] 4 points by east (110) 9 years ago

A very powerful video with an even more powerful message. Thanks for posting on this Labor Day, when thoughts of solidarity with each other should be uppermost. The 4th Anniversary of O.W.S. is next week and it is great to see that this forum is still going and working hard for the 99%. We have much to thank OWS for - eg. http://www.alternet.org/labor/labors-surprisingly-great-year-5-victories-workers-so-far-2015 but much more in keeping with the OP, see: http://www.alternet.org/because-they-lack-crucial-training-these-cops-severely-beat-blind-autistic-teen-unconscious for another shocking glimpse into US policing.

[-] 4 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Thank you for contribution here. People already struggling get police beatings. Hoping to see many old friends here, on OWS Anniversary (9-17-15)

[-] 3 points by east (110) 9 years ago

Solidarity OWS for Labor Day and beyond. On the matter of Labor Day, see this http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0907/Labor-Day-Where-does-it-come-from

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Kentucky Officer Caught On Tape Handcuffing Disabled Kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_nNY8IVe8k

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

American Soldier Tortured And Killed By US Police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf8yHoEy8Ek

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

FYI - ''Sandra Bland's Family Speaks Out After Grand Jury Won't Indict Anyone in Her Death'':

Watch this lying bastard cop, NOT say that he had shot the driver - For NO Good Reason but looked for the cartridge cases he had left instead and then make out that the driver was - FUCK! I can't even go on!

At the end of the video/audio - Feaster admits that he ''may have shot'' Thomas +''OMFG! R U Serious?"! So "Feaster" by name; over-eater by nature; KILLER by choice!!! HowTF did this dick get that job?!! Fck!

RIP Darien Ehorn too - the innocent victim of the stupidity of Both Men & who deserves to be mourned. Now ask how this keeps happening & for how long it's been going on before actually reading these links:


fiat justitia ruat caelum = ''let justice be done (tho' the) heavens fall" but actually on reflection, probably

it's too fukt up for latin!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

good links. The problem, marches on.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Cold Blooded Killer Cop - Patrick Feaster, The Over-Eater Fired TWICE as he killed Andrew Thomas!

Click ''Show More'' below the video to read more & note that at 1.08m Fat Fuck Feaster shoots twice!!

holy fkn shit ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Big, hysterical, cowardly cop commits murder.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Maybe guns DO kill people?! Or it's not just the fault of the person who holds the gun!! But ONLY as long as s/he is a cop!!! Also see evidence of some local outrage... despite the Corporate MSM in the USA (local and national) having gone nearly totally silent about this li'l matter for over a month now ..

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Yes, charge the cop.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

The local DA, Mike Ramsey - needs to explain his actions too and then if unable to do so - be charged alongside Off.Patrick Feaster (The Overeater & Stone Cold Killer) !!! Otherwise - that is proof positive of an ''Illegal Just Us System'' at play!! That's not even mentioning, the Utter Usurpation and the Complete Corruption of the demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy, such as it is in The U$A - BUT still no MSM coverage!

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Have a bad feeling, that things in US are going to get worse.

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''It's always darkest before dawn''!!! Have faith!! The 99% are stronger than we think - IF only we can stay frosty & united! Happy NY for '16 & hope this plays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoL2WMtMb_0

per ardua ad astra ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Good advice.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

I'm amazed at just how little knowledge of Off.Patrick Feaster killing Andrew Thomas there is, even on Twitter & now find myself resorting to an old link from .. ''Bearing Arms'' who are apparently - ''SAVING LIBERTY AND LIVES'', so I'll just lay this down here and step away quietly with my hands in the air ...

I'm not really sure if http://bearingarms.com/ would have ideally wanted Andrew Thomas to actually be in possession of a firearm so that he could have shot the cop but my guess is that it wouldn't have helped!! There seems to be some kind of quasi-religious belief that a gun will keep people safe but I can't relate!!!

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

lizard brain pulled the trigger

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Did ''lizard brain'' pull it TWICE, or was it the fat finger on a 5.5lb pressure trigger?!!! Because fat fuk cop Off.Feaster ''double tapped'' Andrew Thomas & there is NO doubt about it in my mind!! Freeze at 1.07 & do a frame by frame of the video below and/or read the whole sub-thread here but do not make excuses!

Feaster's 1st; 2nd & 3rd thought was: Look for 2 shell cases; not the dying woman or the guy he'd shot!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Rare possibility of justice in this ''Cop Killing Person'' case but it remains to be seen what happens..

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Anonymous Message To Killer Cops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm2dH_Ko_P8

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Racial Profiling By Cops Gone Wild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIGfHj1Ns9Q

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

And yet we have those who tell people to walk away from owning the system and getting proper representation in their local government - because - just straight out protesting will get them what they need - because . . . well . . . just because - and don't worry because those killer cops will respect and support your "just" protests.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Miami Cop Brutally Assaults Handcuffed Woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgYfsCdaWg

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago
[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Disabled teen bloodied by TSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SeUaD7CbzM

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Police Punch Tase & Choke-----

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiH2DVujioU

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Thank you for Tweets. Was troubling to hear Bernie will vote for Hillary.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

I saw Bernie on Colbert last night. Colbert tried to get Bernie to say that he was gonna endorse HRC. Bernie wouldn't - instead he kept on with his intent to forward his platform. What happens after the DNC nomination convention? I don't know - but I keep telling Bernie that if he were to endorse HRC that it would make his whole campaign a lie.

[-] 1 points by Viking (417) 8 years ago

Yes, I saw Sanders on Colbert last night too. He may not be endorsing Hillary, but he later said that he would probably vote for her. That's depressing! What's the difference? I think that he is trying to convince himself that by supporting her that we will be on a path to systemic change. Deep down, I think he knows better.

Bernie Sanders says he'll vote for Hillary

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/06/24/presidential-candidate-bernie-sanders-says-hell-vote-for-hillary-clinton-msnbc.html

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Chicago Releases Videos Of US Police Fatal Shootings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s0H49cVSS4

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Yep! (good video btw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s0H49cVSS4 - thanks)

Predators/Police

Prey (growing numbers of the general population)

Police - Trained in Fear working the streets in FEAR - killing civilians (prey) with impunity in ever increasing numbers for even the smallest of infractions


[Ward] Now Beaver! You can't jay-walk and expect the police to do nothing.

[June] Oh Ward......

[Ward] Beaver! You got what you deserved (fractured skull & broken ribs) just be thankful that you got off with just a warning........

[June] Oh Ward................

[Beaver] Yeah gee golly gosh Dad - I mean it's not like I was playing in traffic - I just went across the street to get the mail..............

[Ward] Now Beaver? That's ENOUGH - I don't want to hear anything more about it - just count your lucky stars that they didn't shoot you......

[June] Oh Ward.....don't ya think you were a little hard on the Beaver?


Boy oh BOY haven't we come a long way - Hey?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Good work. Regarding a related issue, do you think Obabble is going to stay?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Stay? Where?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Declare martial law, and stay in office.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

I doubt it - though under marshal law he would have more executive power to make all sorts of changes. The GOP would have a coronary!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago
[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago
[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Only Because Of This Video---- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQTbPXLAfe4

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Involuntary manslaughter? Possible 5 years in county jail? How many wanna bet he doesn't do any time.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Cops On Camera In Cowardly Gang-Style Beating Of Unarmed Man Lyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMTxP7LkYking Face Down----

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Absolutely nothing ambiguous about that one - whether or not that guy actually committed a crime - there was absolutely no excuse to beat him when he clearly gave himself up.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Hmmmmm - sorry but I don't see it - seriously - blue tarp guy tried to run the roadblock and almost ran over an agent while doing so. Then he jumps out of the mini-van (sorry = pick-up truck) at 1st doing the right thing = raising his hands well out away from his body - then for some stupid reason he reaches into his jacket quickly - come on - this guy is known to be armed and has made numerous statements about using his weapons if and when confronted. VERDICT ? = dumb-ass gets himself killed.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

The "dumb-ass" might have been shot at twice (but going unreported) due to the Feral Burro of Incontinence's urge to piss: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/03/oregon_standoff_fbi_agents_und.html

Excessive testosterone causes enlarged prostate gland that impinges on the bladder causing an uncontrollable urge to piss.

I think that we may now know why there might have been no audio with the released video clip.

Even Caucasians need to learn, nowadays, the three-sentence "Yes, Sir!" "No, Sir!" "Thank you, Sir!" survival routine when dealing with law enforcement.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Even Caucasians need to learn, nowadays, the three-sentence "Yes, Sir!" "No, Sir!" "Thank you, Sir!" survival routine when dealing with law enforcement.

Believe it or not - I was taught that in grade school = you don't antagonize someone who is carrying a gun.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

I was taught in grade school that I should always carry a handkerchief with me. A white handkerchief is also for surrendering to peace. It's not racist!

I hope that all of our go-nuts, dough-nuts, hazard-nuts, mush-room-nuts - magical or physical - have learnt their lessons well in grade school or bullying may get us all WW4. ♥♡

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 8 years ago

The stupid reason may not be so stupid if he was shot at by the person behind him. The video recording did not have audio so we cannot determine whether he had been shot at before he reached into his jacket.

If he had been shot at or shot while he had his arms up, his reaching into his jacket might be an act of self defense. Another possibility is that the person to whom he was surrendering was commanding him to disarm himself under duress. More information from different perspectives, audios, videos, witness statements, etc. may help.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

tazer ?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Body Cam Shows Cops Suffocate Handcuffed Innocent Man--- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MADhr2Rr44

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

stop killing people

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 8 years ago

People who support Dems and Reps could care less. They care whats in it for them, no matter what it costs everyone else on the planet.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 8 years ago

when there is an enemy to defeat; the spoils can be won

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Rapist cop gets 263 years in prison

Commented: http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1473019/59137923

" Well he was a pitcher (rapist) — will he now become a catcher (raped) in the prison system? Karma can be a real bitch — Hey? Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time! Being a cop does not mean that you can do what you want = crime — and expect to get away with it. The times (hopefully) be a changing = take note those of you in positions of authority = accountability = the public demanding it — and starting to get it! "

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

263 years---Pay Back. Victims should sue the hell out of city.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel oversaw the withholding from public view -- for more than a year -- of a video of a police murder of a teenager.

The police officer who shot 17-year-old Laquan McDonald 16 times, continuing to shoot his motionless body on the ground, has now been indicted for first-degree murder.

The video was kept secret for 13 months, during which time Emanuel never corrected the blatant lies by the Chicago Police Department that maintained the victim had lunged at the police with a knife just before he was shot. The video shows this to have been a complete fabrication.

A mayor willing to cover for the murder of his constituent is no mayor at all.

Click here to demand Rahm's immediate resignation.


People if you sign - please consider adding a personal note - THAT every command officer involved in the incident be fired and charged as complicit.

Accountability must include the criminal/complicit chain of command.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Signed with comment. All involved in cover-up, also need serious prison time.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

If we are gonna end institutional crime - all involved must be held accountable.

Put it out on a series of tweets as well.

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/689573191887511552

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Chicago cop kills student & 55 yr old women---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB7QP8WwO6g

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''RIP Bettie Jones and Quintonio LeGrier'':

There have been over 1120 Americans killed by Cops in USA in 2015! BUT a total of 14 by ''terrorism''!! Now carefully consider, just whoTF are Americans Actually Terrorised by in their everyday real lives?!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

And the 14 were likely hoaxes or false flags.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Maybe so but we can certainly assert and argue that theory for THE Defining Event of The 21st Century, from which has subsequently flowed .. myriad manifestations of mayhem, mendacity and manipulation!!!

However, as per the OP and the egregious Murder of Bettie Jones and Quintonio LeGrier [RIP] - see:

I say ''Murder'' without reservation, as IF u or a cop point a gun & shoot & kill innocents, that's what it is!

fiat justitia ruat caelum...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Agree.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

“Historically, law enforcement, both local and national, have a track record of keeping files on activists, engaging in surveillance, and targeting for excessive enforcement action people identified in leadership roles in social movement,'' and .. ''The evidence shown by these documents raises warning flags about resources committed and, more importantly, the degree to which local police agencies are potentially targeting non-violent activists.” from ...

So let's get this right - the cops can get away with any number of violations (not least - murder!) against citizens BUT ... apparently protesting these realities, can lead to indefinite surveillance and intimidation!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

They really do want most of us dead.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

TPTB want as many as possible dead around the world which would still leave them with a sustainable slave force to keep their pleasure palaces operating.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Hunger Games

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 years ago

Yeah - kinda - mixed in with Robo-Cop

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Re. Cali-Cop, Off.Patrick Feaster shooting Andrew Thomas, it now looks like some people DID notice it!

Listen to Anna Kasparian and Cenk Uygher - actually discuss the murder & hear their shock & outrage!!

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

good link

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Consider - ''Triggers don't pull themselves ...''

Still nothing in MSM after Andrew Thomas died but a few noises are beginning to be heard. Eg. ..

Off.Feaster and DA Ramsey need to be prosecuted & The Systemic Defence of Killer Cops .. has to go!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Killer cops, all part of a grand plan.

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Maybe so & re.Eric Garner, consider ...

Sometimes the mind just boggles tbh! And not only at the fact that my 1st reply to you was ''Removed''!

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

Police state doing what they do. Many challenges ahead. Thank you for links. Odd that your comments were removed.

[-] 5 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

''If you are poor, you will almost never go to trial—instead you will be forced to accept a plea deal offered by government prosecutors. If you are poor, the word of the police, who are not averse to fabricating or tampering with evidence, manipulating witnesses and planting guns or drugs, will be accepted in a courtroom as if it was the word of God. If you are poor, and especially if you are of color, almost anyone who can verify your innocence will have a police record of some kind and thereby will be invalidated as a witness. If you are poor, you will be railroaded in assembly-line production from a town or city where there are no jobs through the police stations, county jails and courts directly into prison. And if you are poor, because you don’t have money for adequate legal defense, you will serve sentences that are decades longer than those for equivalent crimes anywhere else in the industrialized world.

''If you are a poor person of color in America you understand this with a visceral fear. You have no chance. Being poor has become a crime. And this makes mass incarceration the most pressing civil rights issue of our era.'' - from ...

''Odd'' or otherwise, we'll forge on together and I strongly recommend this excellent yet shocking article.

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 years ago

Re. ''The Mirage of Justice'' - by Chris Hedges above, in compliment - please consider:

multum in parvo ...

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[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 8 years ago

See this----Cops Out Of Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t7Fx9xvGs

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Filmmaker Document Police Shooting Dogs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXKnAUCz-po

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Jade Helm Raids Happening Now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoGslwi6qUI

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Nahhhhhh no racism involved in policing...........................

Black ex-cop files suit after he and his son were beaten by other cops

The officers involved were just upset that one of their own was doing stuff for free on his off time . . . ummmmm . . . YEAH no racism here . . just protecting our employment from being abused . . . stuff like doing stuff off duty could make it so that less cops are needed on the job . . . and stuff . . . . .

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

This is war.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago
[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

The thing is, getting taken into custody (even for a minor issue) is all to often fatal.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Absolutely - note - killed for driving deadly hand propelled wheelchair.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

It is not just individual criminal/rogue police officers - it is also very definitely the command structure and government that supports and defends the criminals - so - being criminal in their complicity and failure to prosecute and in intimidation of those who would prosecute.

The deep, ugly, and nearly unbelievable rabbit hole of violence and corruption within the Chicago PD

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Disgusting. Calling the police in many places, is like suicide.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Yep

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

What exactly does the law say? It authorizes people to protect themselves or their property by using deadly force in response to "unlawful intrusion" by a "public servant." The measure is essentially just a public-servant-specific amendment to the state's 2006 so-called Castle Doctrine bill, which allows people to do whatever they have to to stop someone from illegally entering a home or car. Indiana is reportedly the first state to specifically allow the use of force against police. The new rule was passed with a nudge from the National Rifle Association, which has pushed permissive gun laws around the country.

WOW . . . . just . . . WOW

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Here is another take on the law - Myths and Misconceptions About Indiana's New...

Is it just me - or does it seem strange that you have to have a specification in the law to state that you can defend yourself from the police if the police are acting criminally.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

This most brutal home invasion, comes to mind----

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/happen-thug-badge-threw-grenade-top-baby/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Yeah - they broke their promise to pay - after they found out it was gonna be a horrendous bill.

It was just a flash bang for Christs sake - just a firecracker sort of a thing - who knew it could be deadly? The family shouldn't have been there anyway - so it is their fault. I mean who knew it would need more care than a squirt of Bactine and a band-aid?

F'n Dipshits

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Why isn’t every member of that SWAT team being prosecuted? And what about the judge who signed the warrant? The DA that asked for the warrant? All of them are culpable. Every single person that thought this would be a good idea is guilty of harming a 19 month old baby. I’m sure no one set out to hurt a baby, but the fact remains, they did, and they are guilty of being negligent and careless, at the very least. Where the heck is the accountability? They aren’t paying the child’s extensive medical bills, they aren’t paying the hotel bill for the struggling family, and they aren’t taking any responsibility for their actions.

Yes - where in the hell is the accountability?

The problem is, those who enforce the law should not only be held to the law, they should be held to a higher standard.

EXACTLY = Held To A Higher Standard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Cops probably went out for a beer , and did the high 5 thing. They really don't care. They Really Don't Care.

All this is policy of the Bohemian Grove Freaks.

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

The accountability lies with us, and currently we are like a spoiled child.

There is no way to justly police an unjust system. We refuse to simply let people live their lives as we see fit, instead injecting the state at every opportunity.

This is what you get. A royal mess.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

muddle management must justify the need for their position somehow

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 9 years ago

US does best keeping world armed

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

An old post that deserves a fresh look - Ferguson is what happens when the police become the military

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Yes, a fresh look. TPTB are generating a thug based army, while neutralizing the Constitution.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

On the Source of the problem : http://kos.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=HJlM06p2uMSfoTFAinqY7HSLH%2BURjwQY

My comment to this post =

Just shows how wrong a union can be when it feels it must defend criminal actions by some of it's members.

Does anyone else see why the NYPD in this instance as well as in the instance of the illegal choke-hold death of another and so many other instances of criminal conduct and actions/deaths - have lost the trust of the society they are supposed to be a part of?

To be clear this is not just an NYPD failure - problem - issue. This kind of crap of defending criminal actions because the criminal is in uniform is a national problem - and does not start or end with any union - but also includes the full structure of governance.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

NYPD is in no position to be calling anyone Un-American. TPTB is the source of all this. Cameras and law suits do not do much, as the policy is coming from the top. The plan is to federalize police, while ending the Constitution.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Charges must be brought against criminal cops and against those who fail to charge and prosecute them = accessories after the fact. The chain of command must be held accountable = from the top to the bottom = there is no excuse for this kind of shit continuing - they (chain of command) can not claim that they are unaware or helpless to do anything - and this includes not just those in the police department but also in town - city - state - federal government.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago
[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

9 cops needed today to handle one kid jaywalking - 8 being needed basically to insure that the outraged crowd does not intervene (oh and to help the defenseless cop toss the kid onto the ground).

How many more cops will be needed tomorrow or the next day - as cops continue to outrage the public?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

There will be lots of cops (bad cops), and they will make enemies every day. It will be ugly.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

They have got to be removed from the job! Along with the command structure that allows criminal cops to continue on the job!

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Exactly.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

It ain't gonna happen without the public standing up and supporting a FULL political revolution to get scum out of office.

Bernie has a great agenda - but he can't do it alone. Nice to see him going into the red states to spread the word.

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 9 years ago

The establishment racket is not going to allow people to join it and stop the train, much less reverse course.

How some of you are falling for this charade is beyond me.

Imagine if Bernie was out building a new movement and all the leftists had the choice of joining that or joining Hillary.

But Bernie is a career politician for a reason, he knows how to play the game. So here we go again, 2008 all over again. Same shit, different year.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5843) 9 years ago

Fire Marshall Shuts Down Officer Who Attempts To Violate His Rightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUhRCsVSzYs