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Forum Post: "Weapons of Mass Distraction", by Dennis Kucinich

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 10, 2012, 5:13 p.m. EST by shadz66 (19985)
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"Weapons of Mass Distraction"

by Dennis Kucinich.

October 10, 2012 "Information Clearing House" [ http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ ]

Ten years ago, on October 10, 2002, the United States House of Representatives made one of the most calamitous mistakes of a generation. Congress, with wilful blindness, voted to attack, invade and occupy a sovereign, oil-rich nation in the Middle East that did not attack us and did not pose a threat to the American people.

The war in Iraq will ultimately cost the United States five trillion dollars. Four thousand, four hundred, eighty eight Americans were killed. Tens of thousands of Americans were injured. At least one million innocent Iraqis were killed. Iraq has become a home to Al Qaida which it certainly was not before our intervention. Resentment against the United States has made pursuing peace more difficult. And we still have thousands of armed contractors in Iraq -- paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

Many are trying to rewrite the history of the Iraq war. The people who led us into a war based on lies want us to believe that the intelligence community was duped. They don't want us to ask questions, because they don't want to be held accountable. Those repeating the myth that America was duped are perpetuating one of the biggest lies in American history.

Iraq did not pose a threat to the United States. Iraq had no Weapons of Mass Destruction. Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. We were not duped. We were not fooled. It was obvious at the time. The evidence was in publicly available reports for anyone who cared to look. I personally distributed this memo to Members of Congress. In it I address the false justifications for war, point-by-point and establish the truth. I made the case in an hour-long presentation on the House floor. 133 Members of Congress were not duped; they voted against going to war with Iraq. The Bush Administration lied to the Congress and the American people to sell its war. The intelligence community wasn't duped, The American people were duped and we are still paying the price.

Why did they lie ? After ten years, we have never held anyone accountable for the lies. Perhaps it would be useful to look at who benefited from the war. The Neoconservatives in the Bush Administration wanted to show the world American power by destroying an enemy. They thought that American power and American bombs could redraw the maps and ensure American hegemony and American access to cheap oil for a new century. Certainly the bomb makers and war profiteers have gained from a decade of war. The elite chattering class of State Department sponsored spokespersons from so-called "independent" think tanks have also benefited. This professional chattering class receives funding and attention by hyping threats and war. Who else benefited from the war ?

America needs a period of truth and reconciliation. How can we avoid future wars if we don't understand how consent was manufactured for a war against Iraq ?

~

respice, adspice, prospice...

~

Dennis Kucinich is Congressman from Ohio.

[Item copied verbatim under 'Fair Use' from : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32706.htm ]

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[-] 4 points by jtland (30) 1 year ago

He nailed it! great work Dennis.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Emphatic Ditto & re. 'DK' : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM [6m].

Thanx for : http://vote-pedia.com/ from : http://occupywallst.org/forum/central-banks-create-money-and-commercial-banks-cr/ and please keep us posted here.

pax et lux ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

He was right back then and he is right now. Thanks for posting this and thanks for all the work you do here. :)

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

W. M. D. & 'Peace On Earth'

~

Words Matter Deeply so

We Must Define them.

~

"Weapons of Mass Destruction"

We May Define as

'Words of Mass Deception'.

~

We Must Denounce those

Workers of Mesmeric Delusion &

We Must Deny their

Words of Mass Distraction.

~

Wordsmiths for Mass Deception use

Words of Mania and Depression, to

Wield Mendacity and Duplicity and

Wreak Murderous Demons ...

Whilst Mothers Despair.

~

We May Declare but

We Must Decide and

Women Must Decry

What Men Defile, as

What 'Mankind' Discerns is

WAR MEANS DEATH !!!

~*~

'Pacem In Terris' ...

~^~

Thanx 'bw' for your grace, wisdom and kind words & also ...

"Kucinich : US 'sanction warfare" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjSGFQYZAm0 .

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

Very nice! As William Wordsworth said "Poetry is the breath and finer spirit of all knowledge."

Love, not fear. Truth, not lies. Your poem says it all.

And, “We need to stop this vainglorious notion that somehow we can settle our differences with Iran through war.” Dennis Kucinich could not be more right.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"Dennis Kucinich : “Wake Up America !” : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20631.htm

"Former presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich delivered one of the most passionate addresses. “Wake up, America. We went into Iraq for oil. The oil companies want more,” Kucinich said. “War against Iran will mean $10-a-gallon gasoline. The oil administration wants to drill more, into your wallet. Wake up, America. Weapons contractors want more. An Iran war will cost 5 to 10 trillion dollars.”

Tnx 'bw' & 4u with 'The Grameen Bank' in mind too : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iLPnDCQ1g &

Re. 'The Grameen Bank' : http://occupywallst.org/forum/save-this-peoples-bank-votes-needed/ ~*~

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

Beautiful version of a beautiful song. Thanks. And, a bank for the poor. We shouldn't need it, but it is awesome.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Thankyou & amended link to 'DK : WUA' : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM [6m].

Very Powerful Stuff & as you so succinctly said : "He was right back then and he is right now." :)

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

Great freaking speech! Wake up America! It is a shame Americans don't listen to sensible people like Kucinich. Thanks for that. I'd forgotten what a good speaker he is.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

Thanks. Going sleepy now.

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Sweet. Good Night 'bw' :) & later on, please do try to see 2nd link at 6:23 re 'Peace'.

@ 6:45, 'DK' : "IF Violence is a learnt response socially, why then can't Peace be .."

pax, amor et lux ..

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

I'm glad to see that he thinks that losing will empower him to speak out even more. That is great.

Also, I love that idea of creating permanent structures in the government to focus on working against all kinds of violence at all levels to "rework the social compact" to teach other ways to respond to conflict such as peace giving, mutuality, viewing others as an aspect of yourself, etc. All very profound ideas from Kucinich.

He also talks about everything we could have done with the money we've spent on the wars such as education, universal healthcare, housing for all etc. He says "We could have the shining city on the hill instead of a country going to hell." That pretty much says it all.

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Dennis Kucinich is head and shoulders above the rest of US Politicians from a 99% perspective and this is precisely why he has had his Congressional seat boundaries 'gerrymandered' to oust him. Thanx for your thought provocation & for further evidence of the man's integrity : 'The Truth', by Dennis Kucinich :

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

Wow. That's a great little video. He asks all the right questions. "Is this the Congress of the United States of America or the board of Goldman Sachs?" Hmmm.

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

That was a very short but very strong video & yep, your point is sound tho' the reactionaries are out early today (7am EST, Oct.14, '12 for the standing record for posterity, lol) as I had to 'twinkle' your comment because apparently what you said was so threatening that it required 'stinkling', lolol.

Re. Dennis Kucinich, I append some basic information :

As you so succinctly point out with your "Hmmm" as re. The US Congress, DK's -"Is this the Congress of the United States of America or the board of Goldman Sachs ?" - absolutely does say it all really.

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20901) 1 year ago

He was a real thorn in the side of just about everyone in Congress as he spoke truth to power on a daily basis. They had to gerrymander him out which is a very sad sign of how poorly our democracy works. Let's hope he can be even more effective outside of office.

And, thanks for the links.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28256) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

"Weapons of Mass Distraction"

Like the health care debacle?

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Re. US Health 'Care' : "Why I Voted NO", by Dennis Kucinich :

"We have been led to believe that we must make our health care choices only within the current structure of a predatory, for-profit insurance system which makes money not providing health care. We cannot fault the insurance companies for being what they are. But we can fault legislation in which the government incentivizes the perpetuation, indeed the strengthening, of the for-profit health insurance industry, the very source of the problem. When health insurance companies deny care or raise premiums, co-pays and deductibles they are simply trying to make a profit. That is our system."

qui tacet consentire ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28256) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The whole construct of what is in place now is sad to say the least - but it is also - believe it or not a step in the correct direction. It is just that it was not as major a priority to immediately address as is the economy and the crime that crashed it. In fact both issues could have been addressed at the same time - but getting aid to the victims ( actual people ) should have been done 1st - and still has not been addressed.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3062

I'm just going to set this right here and walk away.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28256) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Thx - book marked and tweeted = http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3062

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Kucinich : "Fact Checking the Media" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6k1VTmOPyE & sad sigh.

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Thanks. Shadz, I am sharing this at this very moment.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"All we are saying is" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZC7sqImaM & thanx 'GF'.

fiat pax ...

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (28256) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Is GIVE PEACE A CHANCE. Good one shadz.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"And now for something completely different" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM !!!

'Now THAT'S what we are talking about' !!

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (28256) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Thx - this is the kind of talk that Americans need to hear on a daily basis.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

BIG Emphatic Ditto !!! Amen to that !! And again : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM !

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28256) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

{:-])

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"Dennis Kucinich and Chris Hedges on the 99 Percent" (Audio) :

A year old but still incisive.

verb. sat. sap. ...

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Holy SH!T !!! Omg 'GF' !! This will have to be saved to favourites so that I can have a very private apoplectic fit later on so thanx - kinda !

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

the UN said there were no weapons of mass destruction and the press reported that

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

we are still living in the neo-con nightmare

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

now the 2-Party candidates are selling off the 9/11/12 protest attack in Libya as a terrorist attack

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Well it just might have been exactly that Matt - a targeted killing and the important question may be who really wanted this excellent diplomat ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Christopher_Stevens ) and very knowledgeable 'Arabic Speaking Career Arabist' dead ?

Requiescat In Pace, CS.

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

as long as we can dress the

Assignment of responsibility for the bombing and murders of 28 June is highly controversial because the attack led to the outbreak of World War I one month later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand_of_Austria

we ain't fallen for that again

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

I hear you and know that history re. 'ADFoA' but of course this time, the war was over and Bengazi was the first city in Libya to 'rebel' and from where the entire 'rebellion' was coordinated from. The whole city was awash with 'US:UK:French' spooks and there's lots to 'fall' for in this game of 'smoke and mirrors', as it's all really about Libya's 'light, sweet crude' and Vast Underground Water and Gold Reserves !!!

Re. Libya, also please see :

verb. sat. sap. ...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

The republicans have benefited most of all.

They exploited the 9/11 attacks to create an atmosphere of fear.

that they used to increase Military spending. Defense contractors that are their constituents and mainly in red states.

They used the fear to combine huge fed agencies into homeland security and attacked collective bargaining/strike rights based on national security. Thereby hurting democratic constituents.

They have used Iraq/Afghan as a piggy bank for all their corp crony constituents, Not just oil, construction, medical,tele comm, big pharma etc.

And more.

Repubs have benefited the most by far. And in many ways they still do.

We MUST 1st end the atmosphere of fear they created when they exploited the 9/11 attacks. It is the lynchpin of the whole scheme.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

"How War Is Used To Redistribute Wealth", by Dennis Kucinich

"War Takes Money From The American People & Gives It To War Profiteers !" and again :

"D. Kucinich : US 'sanction warfare''" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjSGFQYZAm0 .

Your Democrap loyalties are taken as read but only Kucinich cuts the mustard these days.

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I support Kucinich, I supported his membership in the progressive caucus (no repubs) I agree with Kucinich's 90% voting with Dem record.

Kucinich is an excellent progressive. Sorry to see him go (redistricted out by repubs!)

We need more like him.

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Yes to more like Kucinich, Stein, Sanders, McKinney, Nader & even Paul, Johnson & Anderson .. in fact - ANYTHING other than the venal, corrupt, War-Loving, Human Hating Scum in Congress now !!!

Perhaps Kucinich can be persuaded to front a 'OWS Cadidacy' to get back to where his voice is so sorely needed !! Shit - more 'Electroralism' ! Wtf am I thinking ?

minima maxima sunt ...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Our election/political system is corrupt & broken, until the new system is available we must:

replace pro 1% conservatives w/ pro 99% progressives & protest for change that will benefit the 99% and lay the ground work for political change.

[+] -4 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

little denny kucinich is a member of the congressional SOCIALIST caucus. dont cover up socialist with " progressive, call it what it is. no republican members because the republicans are not socialists.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You don't speak for them & they have named it the progressive caucus. I wouldn't be surprised if they supported socialist policies but that is ok. I do to.

And repubs ain't part of it because they don't care about other people.

Progressives believe we're all in this together, Repubs believe you're on your own!

Greedy, selfish, heartless bastards? Yes?

[+] -4 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

they call it what they want, they arent fooling anyone. its the socialist caucus. the only thing the dems/lefty/progressives/socilaists care about is controlling you and taking your money. they dont give a crap about you as a person.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You don't speak for them, and your opinion is obviously partisan pro republican, so we can dismiss your right wing wackiness outright.

[-] -3 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

"we"? is that the royal "we"? you're still a coward.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I have no fear. Why should I? I have the truth at my side, and honor has my back.

YOU should fear for you are without a conscience for your fellow citizen.

YOU have no honor.

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Hhhhahahahahahahahahahaha!

You wouldn't recognize truth and honor if they fell out of the sky and crushed you like a bug on the sidewalk! And someday.....they are going to. Be VERY afraid.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Is that a threat.?

Something very sad about threats made in an anonymous internet forum.

I don't threaten people, & I don't resort to childish name calling and the schoolyard bullying tactics of your candidate Romney.

So maybe you just don't understand truth & honor.

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 1 year ago

Of course...because everyone KNOWS that "truth and honor" are known killers who are often hired by schoolyard bullies to fall out of the sky and crush innocent liberal/Democrats.....get a grip.

Now where did I put my black book with Karma's phone number in it.....

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

you ain't makin sense.

Is there a point to your comments? Please refrain from personal attacks, & threats against me .

You wanna discuss real issues we can. but only if you are able to do so in a civil, respectful way.

We disagree on politics. No prob.

I honor the diplomats who sacrificed their lives to work towards a moderate Libyan govt. You appear to be willing to use them as a political bat against the Pres like your republican war mongering, cowards running for office& in congress.

Let's keep our comments limited to those subjects. Or perhaps your position is so weak you must resort to childishness? If so just don't respond. I ain't interested.

[-] -2 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

blather and foam all you want, you're still a coward.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Name calling. Your resort to the childish schoolyard bullying tactics of your candidate Romney.

Sad.

[-] -2 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

i gave you the information that you " dared" me to give . have you called my doctors? didnt think so. you're a coward.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You should take back your inaccurate accusation that I threatened you.

Then I will deal with your phony DR's.

[-] 0 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

o.k you didnt theaten me. why do you say that my doctors are " phoney"? you havent called them. now you can call them and verify what i said.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I found your Dr's to be phony!

[-] -1 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

still havent called my doctors? coward

[-] -1 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

you didnt call the numbers i gave you, if you did you would know that the phone numbers and names are real. coward.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Anti Obama partisan plant!

[-] -1 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

you said that if i gave you the info you would contact my doctors and ask if what i said was true. i gave you the info. and you didnt call, in fact, you lied about calling ( "I found your Dr's to be phoney") . you tried to bluff , i called you on it by giving the info. you're still a phoney, liar, coward and a fraud. that isnt name calling , its a character assessment. YOU have no honor.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Your Dr info was phoney.

[-] -1 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

i gave you my doctors real names ( DR RUDD 609-242-7733 ,DR DRUDY 609-597-8087). you are both a liar and a coward and a phoney. i know this because you didnt call them. if you had , you would have gotten their offices. what a pathetic little creature you are.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Please, Everything you said about the Dr's and the ACA was untrue.

You are clearly just an anti dem partisan who supports the 1% who continue to prey on our families.

You are a traitor to your class.

You have no honor!

[-] -2 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

untrue? call the doctors. not only are you a liar , a coward and phoney, you're a fraud.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

LOL.

Childish name calling.

We disagree dude. I stand with the people who need/want affordable healthcare. You stand with the corp 1%.

You have no honor.

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

So, Mr.(..x..)Hat ! WTF d'you think you know about "socialist" or 'socialism' ?!! Your chronically selfish psycho-pathology, 'heart centre' blockage and acute lack of imagination is as sad as it is shocking !!!

Reflect that your Karma will run over your dogma eventually and inevitably !!

momento mori ....

[-] -2 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

you and kaggie need to get together, the both of you are foaming over. its hilarious.

[-] -3 points by dennisthedwarf (-16) 1 year ago

Dennis...thrown out of Cleveland as Mayor...thrown out as congressman...but ignorant OWS morons thinks he's a messiah. Good..let the socialist dwarf lead you...to ruin

[+] -4 points by dennisthedwarf (-16) 1 year ago

Quoting Dennis Kucinich on foreign policy??? That's the same guy who paid TWO visits to his murdering pal Bashar al Assad of Syria, and said this about him ....“President al-Assad is highly loved and appreciated by the Syrians,”

He did this while REFUSING to visit the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, many from his own district...because he didn't support the war.

Kucinich is a fucking idiot! Ask him how that Syrian thing is working out for his Pal Assadd

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 1 year ago

Thanx for a thought fart 'ranger rick' & I'll take the bump. Good luck with finding a brain!

Finally : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv0smG7ptcM & can you do the whole 6m?

fiat lux ...