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Forum Post: Make A Difference. End the Department of Education

Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 22, 2011, 2:09 p.m. EST by MikeyD (581) from Alameda, CA
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If k-12 schools were doing their job, you wouldn't need 100k in debt to get through a crappy school that teaches you what kids around the world learn in Secondary school.

Ask for a voucher and go to a private school of repute, or spend the money and home school your kids up till secondary school.

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[-] 1 points by thebeastchasingitstail (1912) 12 years ago

Well, I agree with you here, mikey.

The stuff taught in those crap schools with the 40% default rates should be taught in secondary school.

Community colleges are giving degrees in things like "Child Care Specialist" which means you qualify for a job as a 7 dollar an hour aide in a day care center.

Or "culinary arts" which means you won't be the next Emeril Lagasse but more likely a ten dollar an hour 2nd prep cook in some chain restaurant kitchen.

That shit needs to end.

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[-] 1 points by thebeastchasingitstail (1912) 12 years ago

Big yes, to single issue causes.

I think that is the only way the rank & file voters in this country will ever effect any change. We have to unite behind an issue where we share common ground and go across party/ideology lines to pressure our representatives, one cause at a time.

I was hoping OWS would be able to do that, too.

Well, it has us talking, anyway. Somehow we need to get to the next step.

[-] 1 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 12 years ago

I was thinking along the lines of single issue demands that we could unite behind, and a way to make it happen. Like just a little bit of direct democracy on issues where our representatives failed. Just throwing this out there:

We make ultimatums to politicians. For example, "If you don't make legislation to take money out of politics, we promise not to vote for you". We simply take a vote - if 85-95% of people agree on it, we keep it on the short list.

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[-] 1 points by anotherone773 (734) from Carlyle, IL 12 years ago

One their isnt near enough private schools to support everyone. Two, a majority of private schools are religious. Three, our education system doesnt work for many reasons and almost every single one is bureaucracy. The same as all other domestic programs. The politicians over complicate it and either throw money at it or take money away and call it fixed. They never actually fix anything and usually make it worse.

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[-] 1 points by anotherone773 (734) from Carlyle, IL 12 years ago
  1. The change from public to private would require a lot of work. First you have to decide WHO owns the schools. Then you would have to renegotiate everything required to run a school more than likely at a much higher cost. Just like higher education has done, prices would go through the roof to go to school.

2)I would not send my kids to a private school that was religious no. Thats not education, its indoctrination.

3) Bureaucracy is due to a lack of politicians who dont care. As long as the donors are happy put a bandaid on it and keep trucking.

If you make schools private, like everything else that is private sector and just like higher education the price is going to shoot up. I can 100% guarantee it. At some point its going to become ridiculously expensive and then poor people are going to be illiterate because they cannot afford basic schooling. Or the govt is going to have to keep providing education vouchers worth more( which is stupid because its still publicly funded but privately owned so now more "contractors" get to rape us) and more.

Education should be free. It should be ran by the govt. Our education system use to work. It doesnt work anymore because of things like no child left behind and lowering the standards to pass so that everyone can pass. Passing kids that do not deserve to pass and everything else. Let kids fails, let corporations fail. People need to learn to fail in life. Its part of learning.

Public schools have to do this sort of thing. Private schools are more flexible. If all schools become private then private schools will have to do this sort of thing. Which means.... You changed nothing.

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[-] 1 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 12 years ago

Steve Jobs was right about teachers.