Forum Post: It's Crazy that Barely Anybody here is Talking about the Monsanto March!
Posted 10 years ago on May 24, 2013, 10:39 a.m. EST by Garry
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The Monsanto March is one of the biggest Occupy events, and it's happening tomorrow! I'm surprised barely anybody here is talking about it. The News thread only has 13 comments, some of which are unrelated to the topic. What's going on?
Furthermore, there's two different reasons why someone might want to march against Monsanto.
- Fear of GMOs
- Distaste of Monsanto business practices
I'm pro GMO. We've been modifying genes for thousands of years through cross breeding. Tomatoes, potatoes, carrots, bananas, you name it; we've all changed them. Some foods like broccoli didn't even exist before we made them. Tomatoes were poisonous. GMOs have been with us since farming began. The only thing that has changed is the method, and it's more precise. A very good thing!
What I hate about Monsanto is that they patent their modifications and work behind closed doors. They also make seeds that can't procreate for the sole purpose of selling them year after year after year. Pure evil capitalism at its worst. Cross breeders shared their tricks, they didn't use patents. We need to make GMOs open-source, free for any scientist to inspect and test. To share ideas. Farmers should unite with scientists in anarcho-communist fashion to control the future of GMOs.
Anyhow, I'm flabbergasted that barely anyone here seems interested in the march. This site is completely disconnected from Occupy. Wow! Imagine that. A movement has one of its biggest protest marches, probably the biggest in a long time (it's worldwide), and barely anybody on the movement's website is talking about it. Unreal.
It's all about localized US politics here. Occupy is an international protest folks, and one of the big international events is tomorrow! Show some solidarity.
Open source GMOs ?!!! Now there's a thought, right ?!! We should be wise about science but fearful about The Corporations who strive for more and more mere monetary profits in the short and medium term and monopolistic practices in the longer term. Further :
http://occupy-monsanto.com/ ;
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/ ;
https://www.facebook.com/MarchAgainstMonstanto/info ;
http://www.monsantowatch.org/uploads/pdfs/CFSMvF.pdf &
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/16516-the-growing-global-challenge-to-monsantos-monopolistic-greed .
My primary objection is to Monsatan Corp. not to GMOs per se, which with a changing climate may well have a part to play in our future - which of course Monsatan knows all to well. We are right to be fearful about 'Purely for Private Profit' Corporations & we should fear and be suspicious of these quasi-human institutions above all else. I think science should be for science's sake & the results shared for the good of humanity NOT for private corporations who only really strive for monopoly, money & control.
e tenebris ...
You're pro-GMO you say but are you for splicing genes between unrelated species and organisms ?!!! Plant and animal breeding have been going in since human civilisation began But NOT Between plants and animals, right ?!! Also dude don't be so hysterical and get so ''flabbergasted'' so easily, lol but thanx for your forum-post ! Further consider :
http://occupywallst.org/forum/march-on-monsanto-may-25th-global-day-of-action-an/ &
http://occupywallst.org/forum/MarchAgainstMonsanto/ .
fiat lux ...
So why shadow-ban this post ? Interested posters (errr, mostly me maybe, lol) may want to know !
verum ex absurdo ...
You say; "They also make seeds that can't procreate for the sole purpose of selling them year after year after year." You do realize that this is the case with virtually all hybrid seed, right?
Cross breeding two different species to make a genetically modified organism is very rare.
In traditional farming, we bred using the same species. That's why tomatoes, oranges, potatoes, etc... bred through farming can reproduce. That's also why dogs can reproduce. It's only when you mix two different species like a lion and a tiger that the resulting organism cannot reproduce.
With modern GMOs, we don't even need to create a hybrid between two species. We can delete, modify, or insert genes in one species. The additions or removal of genes does not have to be based on another species. We have created many GMOs in the lab that can reproduce. There's no reason why genetically modified seeds cannot be made to breed. It's usually the opposite, they have to be explicitly made not to breed.
If I modified the gene of a human to make his eyes blue instead of brown, he could still reproduce.
Read up on GMOs.
You are mistaken. Many vegetables and virtually all corn are grown from hybrid ( a cross of two species) seed. It is true that GMOs are a different matter. http://gardening.about.com/od/vegetable1/f/Heirlooms.htm http://www.marksdailyapple.com/hybrid-fruits-vegetables/#axzz2UVkpdQDf
finally, a post with a positive outlook
LOL !!! How long have you been looking Matt ?! There's LOTS of +ve here !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19WUwZYM7bM &
http://www.solar-aid.org/ .
fiat lux ...
Thanks Matt.