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Forum Post: Dissent Without Permission: Will Protest Permits & Free Speech Zones Halt Or Hasten Rebellion?

Posted 11 years ago on July 21, 2012, 10:26 a.m. EST by vvv0721 (-290)
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Protest Permits

"Dissent without permission" may sound like Orwellian doublespeak, but for Chinese, Russians, Americans and others it's a criminal offense. Will that backfire?

DISSENT WITHOUT PERMISSION: WILL PROTEST PERMITS & FREE SPEECH ZONES HALT OR HASTEN REBELLION?

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IN CHINA, "protesting" without a permit - which defines and limits where, when and how you are allowed to "protest" - is punishable by stiff fines and/or imprisonment for several years:

Rising Protests in China

http://tinyurl.com/84epz4j

Lack of Freedom of Speech and Censorship in China

http://tinyurl.com/74j9eln

China's Ai Weiwei loses appeal against tax fine

http://tinyurl.com/73ups22

And that's nothing compared to what you'll find in this 2012 Human Rights Watch World Report for China, e.g. "...unnerved by the pro-democracy Arab Spring movements and a scheduled Chinese leadership transition in October 2012, the government launched the largest crackdown on human rights lawyers, activists, and critics in a decade. The authorities also strengthened internet and press censorship, put the activities of many dissidents and critics under surveillance, restricted their activities, and took the unprecedented step of rounding up over 30 of the most outspoken critics and 'disappearing' them for weeks."

http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-china

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IN RUSSIA, "protesting" without a permit - which defines and limits where, when and how you are allowed to "protest" - is punishable by stiff fines and/or imprisonment for several years:

New Russian Law Assesses Heavy Fines on Protesters

http://tinyurl.com/6vgzwvr

Post a Link, Go to Jail: Russia Tries To Silence Protest

http://tinyurl.com/84muc8d

And that's nothing compared to what you'll find in this 2012 Human Rights Watch World Report for Russia, e.g. "Harassment of human rights defenders continues and the working climate for civil society organizations and activists remains hostile... Human rights defenders are vulnerable to harassment and violent attack, and those working in the North Caucasus are especially at risk... The right to freedom of assembly remains problematic in Russia, where police frequently disperse public rallies held by civil society activists and the political opposition. Police use excessive force and arbitrarily detain peaceful protesters..."

http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-russia

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IN THE USA, "protesting" without a permit - which defines and limits where, when and how you are allowed to "protest" - is punishable by stiff fines and/or imprisonment for several years:

Outlawing Occupy: H.R. 347 Makes Free Speech A Felony

http://tinyurl.com/6mm6opp

Free Speech Zones at Political Conventions Violate First Amendment

http://tinyurl.com/7czwrhg

And that's nothing compared to what you'll find in this 2012 Human Rights Watch World Report for "Amerika", e.g. "The US continued to have the world's largest incarcerated population at 2.3 million, and the world's highest per capita incarceration rate at 752 inmates per 100,000 residents... The federal government continues abusive counterterrorism policies, including detentions without charge at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba... [NDAA 2012 expanded] US domestic authority to detain alleged terrorism suspects indefinitely without charge and to mandate military detention for a certain category of terrorism suspects [including American citizens on American soil]."

http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-united-states

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THERE ARE DIFFERENCES between the rights and privileges accorded to citizens of China, Russia and the USA, but those differences are rapidly dwindling in both number and degree. Thanks to institutional indoctrination and decades of sophisticated mental manipulation by an elite-controlled mainstream media - now reinforced by covert and overt pressures to conform with carefully-crafted norms programmed into social media for projection in real life - the American Sheeple can no longer distinguish the liberties of democracy from the favoritism of fascism. They've been fattened up with junk food and GMO, and had the fight bred right out of them. They don't care anymore about freedom; they just want a comfortable cell. If that were not the case then the 99% - or at least the 46 million Americans who now live in poverty - would be asking questions like these:

  • Are free speech zones most effective as soapboxes, or censorship?

  • Is a demonstration in a free speech zone an effective protest?

  • Does a demonstration with a parade permit create a disruption?

  • Does a protest that creates no disruption get any attention?

  • Does a protest that gets no attention make any difference?

I recently heard a talking head say police states allow a certain amount of open protest to serve as a pressure relief valve to avoid open rebellion, and that the Occupy Movement has been tolerated to the extent it has primarily for that purpose. But before being assassinated by the 'magic bullet' of 'lone gunman' Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963, John F. Kennedy said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

They can't both be right...


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[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

shooz's brain on the edge of a razor blade would look like a BB rolling down a four-lane highway:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/class-warfare-you-decide/#comment-787284

[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Vietnamese protest against 'Chinese aggression'. Demonstrators also driven by increasing frustration with Hanoi's one-party government over human rights violations:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/22/vietnamese-protesters-chinese-aggression

[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Like the rest of the partisan propagandists polluting this forum, Factsrfun asserts that anyone who opposes Democrats/Obama must support Republicans/Romney. That's bullshit:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/both-parties-are-the-same-is-a-1-propaganda-ploy/#comment-787264

[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Another bullshit partisan posting by bensdad asserting the false premise that Sheeple must choose between Democrats and Republicans when the truth is they can choose neither:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/are-you-going-to-vote-for-the-party-that-is-suppor/

[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Tibetan Herder Dies After Setting Himself on Fire in Government Protest:

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/tibetan-herder-dies-after-setting-himself-on-fire-/

[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Anyone who thinks this forum is not infested with paid pro-regime propagandists and ignorant Obamapologists need only follow the postings of VQkag2 (and Factsrfun, bensdad, etc etc etc):

http://occupywallst.org/forum/obama-and-climate-change/#comment-787016

[-] 4 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

I am honored to be included with decent, respectful, thoughtful, protesters that you listed.

Why would anyone join with nasty, meanspirited, offensive guy like you?

You should reevaluate your approach to creating change.

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[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Just for the record... If anybody was following the ridiculous exchanges between me shooz and me and DKAtoday today, I hope you all noticed that their baseless ad hominem attacks on me stopped immediately when I questioned whether they were working for Karl Rove or the Koch Brothers.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

U R silly. {:-])

[-] -2 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

I rest my case...

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Of what - beer?

Seriously vvv U R so lame.


[-] 0 points by vvv0721 (-30) 2 minutes ago

I rest my case... ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

[+] -4 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Another petty and pitiful post, DKAtoday, but thanks for the bump.

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Moshe Silman Death: 2nd Israeli Man Sets Himself Ablaze In Protest:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/moshe-silman-israel-self-immolations_n_1693151.html

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

"Dissent without civil disobedience is consent."-Henry David Thoreau

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Arrest meant to stifle dissent: Vittal Malekudiya:

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/article3665108.ece

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

44 Tibetans have been confirmed to have self-immolated inside Tibet since February 27, 2009 ... 37 men, seven women ... 33 of the 44 are known to have died following their protest:

http://www.savetibet.org/resource-center/maps-data-fact-sheets/self-immolation-fact-sheet

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Lockheed-Martin and the politicians, bureaucrats, generals and admirals it owns should be outlawed. ARs and the NRA are collectively insignificant:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/assault-rifles-not-envisioned-by-the-founding-fath/

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Obama and Romney are both bought-and-paid-for puppets of the global fascist elite. We all have better things to do than debate which of the two is whiter or richer:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/tacks-returns-huh/

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Obama is hated by the global fascist elites. Romney is one of the global fascist elite. You are mistaken, or dishonest.

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Fuck the Democrats. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck Obama. Fuck Romney. Fuck Wedge Issues. Fuck Rigged Elections. Fuck Two-Party Tyranny. Fuck Partisan Posers. Fuck Pro-Regime Plants. Fuck Fair Weather Revolutionaries. Fuck Slacktivists. And FUCK YOU.

http://open.salon.com/blog/watchingfrogsboil/2012/05/18/americans_have_3_choices_bushbamney_third-party_or_nobody

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Poster shooz prompted us to remind you that poster Zendog is a serious nut case. See for yourself:

http://zendogblog.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuctdBycnSo

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

What's so God-damned difficult about understanding that you never play the other guy's game, and only learn the other guy's rules so you can use that knowledge to defeat him?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/something-significant-about-the-old-false-occupy-d/

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

It's the only game. No choice. I support playing another game (not one that includes nasty, mean spirited, schoolyard bulling tactics) but I gotta also play their game.

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Fuck the Democrats. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck Obama. Fuck Romney. Fuck Wedge Issues. Fuck Rigged Elections. Fuck Two-Party Tyranny. Fuck Partisan Posers. Fuck Pro-Regime Plants. Fuck Fair Weather Revolutionaries. Fuck Slacktivists. And FUCK YOU.

http://open.salon.com/blog/watchingfrogsboil/2012/05/18/americans_have_3_choices_bushbamney_third-party_or_nobody

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

Well a peep at your anti-people strategy. You are your own worst enemy.


[-] -1 points by vvv0721 (-30) 17 hours ago

What's so God-damned difficult about understanding that you never play the other guy's game, and only learn the other guy's rules so you can use that knowledge to defeat him?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/something-significant-about-the-old-false-occupy-d/ ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

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[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

"Dissent without civil disobedience is consent."-Henry David Thoreau

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Was the timing of the Colorado shootings coincidental?

http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/ArmsTradeTreaty/

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Not according to Alex Jones.

But then you've been a conspiracy theorist since you got here.

It's just another product of gun nuttery. You would be more accurate pointing at the NRA.

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

I don't know you. You don't know me. You have no basis in fact for calling me a conspiracy theorist, which does give me a basis in fact for calling you a liar. And FWIW I am not an NRA member, and I am all for disarmament - beginning with the Pentagon.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Of course not Bruce......Nod, nod, wink, wink.

Keep your disguise. But I will never give your cheezy blog a hit.

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Call me whatever name you like. I could care less. And thanks for bumping this post, the significance of which far exceeds this trivial exchange.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 11 years ago

Sorry. Didn't mean to upset your private party.

It won't happen again Bruce.

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Yes it will. You and yours are as predictable as rain used to be...

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

In Post-NDAA Amerika, What is a Terrorist and Who Can Make You Disappear By Calling You One?

http://open.salon.com/blog/watchingfrogsboil/2012/02/25/in_post-ndaa_amerika_what_is_a_terrorist_and_who_can

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

If you feel compelled to disarm somebody, why don't you take some guns away from the Pentagon before they turn them on us?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/batman-shooting-gun-lobby-counts-on-short-attentio/

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago
[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

This posting by bensdad projects the false premise that the American Sheeple MUST choose between voting Democratic or voting Republican:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/do-you-vote-for-the-people-who-get-millions-from-t/

Here is the truth:

http://open.salon.com/blog/watchingfrogsboil/2012/05/18/americans_have_3_choices_bushbamney_third-party_or_nobody

You know how to post images here, bensdad, so why don't you start including this one with all of your postings:

http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/obama2012-re-election_poster-big.jpg

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

Poster Zendog is a serious nut case. See for yourself:

http://zendogblog.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuctdBycnSo

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[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

The Youtube video should be all you need to see.

[+] -4 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

If you want to disarm somebody, why not start with the Pentagon?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/when-will-americas-gun-laws-be-set-by-our-hearts-n/

How much is the regime paying you to post your counterrevolutionary crap?

[-] -3 points by vvv0721 (-290) 11 years ago

If you want to disarm somebody, start with the Pentagon:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/aurora-shooting/#comment-786791