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Forum Post: democratize our education

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 10, 2011, 9:49 a.m. EST by assasin (25)
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[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

At what level of education would you do this? The open classroom idea was tried in the US in the late 60's early 70's. Some kids chose not to learn. High School, many come to socialize and don't wish to learn anything at all. College maybe it would work, but even there too many students choose the easy courses or degree programs. This is a great way to learn if you have people that wish to learn, unfortunately we have a lazy streak in us and don't like to work. What do we do with the kids that don't want to learn?

[-] 1 points by HarryCrew07 (433) 12 years ago

Unfortunately I agree. Motivation is a big problem in the public education system. Students that want to learn deserve more than they are given in a classroom, this is true. But, essentially, the class is often created around students who disrupt and lack motivation.

[-] 2 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

I know, I'm sensitive to it because my dad teaches and it's made me look at the kids in school from his point of view a little. Some are willing to go along with school, some just come to screw around. He likes his job, but if kids had a vote in what they do in school they'd be watching cartoons and playing video games all day.

[-] 1 points by assasin (25) 12 years ago

i go to a dem school, and learning happens naturally, yes kids don't read till 9 but by 13 they are on a high school level education. Our system is designed to make learning come from authority instead of naturally from human interaction.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

I'm not sure we'd know what works unless we tested it with a real mix of kids. The experimental schools usually draw the best kids, the ones that learn in spite of the school or teacher. Some of us had parents that read to us and we ended up learning to read before we even started school.

I think no matter what approach you use there has to be some authority somewhere, I mean that in terms of authoritative source, not just in charge.

[-] 1 points by assasin (25) 12 years ago

it is why we are failing we are losing our will to resist, the founder of our education model said "if you are to mold the student you must do more than talk at him, you must shape him so he would not will other than what you would wish himto will

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

The teacher has to earn the respect of the student I suppose. Some kids come to school with that in them from their parents. Others don't and they sometimes not just refuse to learn, but get in the way of anyone else learning.

[-] 1 points by assasin (25) 12 years ago

kids should learn what they want to learn not what adults make them.

[-] 1 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

Kids have no idea what is necessary. That is part of what makes them kids.

[-] 1 points by assasin (25) 12 years ago

no if kids don't take classes they don't like they learn it on there own. more kids go to college from dem skools then pub and other private combined

[-] 2 points by JenLynn (692) 12 years ago

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Getting into college isn't a great measure of success, no one tracks the percentage that graduate on time, that would be real success.

[-] 1 points by assasin (25) 12 years ago

its not a school you graduate from you leave when you feel like

[-] 1 points by assasin (25) 12 years ago

there is authority but its the entire student body and instead of a teacher or principle yelling at you its your friends and people you know voting on your punishment. and you might be judging them next weak.