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Thread: Medicare Under Attack
[-] 0 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 minutes ago

Yes - ''many uninsured will die. They'll die because they won't seek care. They'll die because if they do seek care, they'll be turned away. This is moral turpitude as expressed by the USA'' but just how are U responsible for that?! I've always strongly resisted this, ''It's All Our Fault'' kind of thinking from the very beginning of OWS - precisely because in my p-ov, it's both factually untrue AND because I believe The 00.1% & their 1% lackeys hide behind the ''If it's everyone's fault, then it's no one's fault'' smokescreen. DON'T LET THE FKRS OFF THE HOOK! Just sayin' & fyi,consider ...

ad iudicium?

To see how Liberals are actually Conservatives IF they fail to be radical in times of RW excess .. not to mention during A National Emergency - see Whoopi Goldberg desperately trying to railroad Bernie into saying he'll pull out of the Dem Nom race, here ...

Yes the ''DNC prefers the vapid nature of Biden to the substance of Bernie Sanders who's been fighting like hell for us for 40 years and especially now as we face - The Biggest Existential Crisis to humanity in many decades'' but DON'T expect millionaire actors like Whoopi Golgberg, to have The US 99%'s back!

ad iudicium?

Thread: It's April First, do you know where CoViD-19 is?
[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 6 hours ago

Hope can be built upon ignorance and gullibility. It delayed taking the needed actions.

Here's one online commentator's good coping method with the failures of our national passhit:

Over the past couple weeks that I've gone out to the grocery story, I've worn both my 
reusable N95 silicon half-face respirator along with tightly fitted ski goggles. Add on top 
of that, I have disposable plastic gloves. When I get home, all packaging is sterilized, my 
boots are put outside for UV exposure, and the clothes go immediately into the wash. I 
also hop in the shower.

I'm looking forward to Easter and Passover ( preferably N95 or better in solidarity with frontline healthcare workers only if they are all sufficiently protected with adequate PPE as they may also become subcontractors of the angel of death ). Let's prey.

Hooverville pre-dating Central Park is now being occupied instead by the upscale Trumperville accommodations in an "exclusive neighborhood" with a skating rink in those days. It would be great if they could end up staying empty due to the lack of patients ( who stay healthy ! I myself really love being forgetful about seeing a doctor because of my staying healthy--body speaks, listen well. I almost succeeded in squeaking by without getting the H1N1 flu as the epidemic was waning but I failed due to my disobeying this rule--"don't push your luck"--it's no fun getting sick for being impatient by disrespecting the margin of risk; the last step decides the success or failure of the entire endeavor, regardless of how arduous it was ).

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 10 hours ago

But alas "blaming the victims" is exactly what the Ayn Rand's ass kissing 0.01% Oligarchy & their 1% lackeys in M$M - do to gaslight & control The 99%! Thanx for your thought provoking reply. I encourage all who read & learn here (& there are far more of them than we who still post here realize) to read your post above.

NY's Gov.Cuomo has found his voice and perhaps informed by his Catholicism, he articulates the wider collectivism that is needed to overcome the COVID19 Crisis, which we are all now in. ''Rich or poor or powerful or not ... This Is The Great Leveller'' he said - and never a truer word was broadcast on US TV/radio. Take care & be well elf. Solidarity to U & yours. Also NB .. https://flumob.org/resources and fyi:

et spero meliora ...

(& hope for better)

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 hours ago

"What spectacular timing! Like a shot ricocheting at Heaven’s Door, as a virus pandemic rages & Planet Lockdown is the new normal, Bob Dylan has produced a stunning 17-minute masterpiece dissecting the November 22, 1963, assassination of JFK ...'' - from:

NB: ''If there’s any cultural artifact capable of sending a powerful jolt across a discombobulated America trying to come to grips with a dystopic Desolation Row, this is it .. the work of America’s undisputed, true Exceptionalist. The times, they are-a-changin’. Oh, yes, they are.''

respice; adspice; prospice ...

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by elf3 (4105) 1 day ago

Back in the 60's some musician - Dillon maybe would be out in that parking lot staging some protest 6 feet apart - standing up for those workers and helping get their voices heard so it could make the news. Where are all these people now? Please someone in NY fire up a guitar - they need you!!

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by elf3 (4105) 1 day ago

To turn around and get angry at employees for the company's own wrong-doing is called blaming the victims.

Let's hope the NY Attorney Gen. and labor department launches a full investigation. It took courage for Smalls to stand up to the richest man in the world - and it's going to take the courage of the rest of the workforce to realize change can't happen without solidarity. Companies who lie about Covid spreading in their facilities should be brought to justice. What part of most of the entire country is under self imposed quarantine to prevent the spread of deadly pandemic not just for themselves but to flatten the curve for all of society do these CEOs not get?

There are people dying and they are discovering a large volume of young people too - all dying alone in a hospital room with a plastic bubble over their heads drowning in their own lung fluid. And they are playing chess with employee lives and ultimately nurses and doctors lives too because they will be more at risk the more patients they treat. The whole point of quarantine could be defeated by a handful of irresponsible companies with large volumes of employees across the nation playing roulette and betting that it won't trace back to them if they throw a blanket over it all. So if Bezos and others want to selfishly spike infection rates so hospitals are inundated all at once - many more people will die due to lack of ventilators and beds and it will be their fault. Same going on at UPS also. It's not the boxes people need to worry about it's the workers - because there are a lot of them and if it spreads amongst them - it's a wild fire spreading amongst the people they live with, and on.

It seems like both UPS and Amazon have coordinated responses to the press. These CEO's are so classist they believe that their status gives their words more merit than a blue collar worker - actually more than many blue collar workers who are deeply concerned not just for infecting themselves but their families and the public. A worker asking for proper health protocols v a company hedging large quantities of money which counts employees as a liability and every penny spent is a penny they can't show to shareholders. Who has more reason to lie? A: The companies do - obviously. I don't blame these companies for the pandemic - and they did have fortunate luck that they are still in business - but I would expect that they would respect the seriousness of the situation and risk to employees. This situation gave them an opportunity to shine and show what American labor could do and what they could do for American labor. They took that opportunity and fumbled it with the eyes of a terrified nation looking on and turned their facilities into a survival horror show for employees.

To reiterate the point to turn around and get angry at and punish employees for the company's own wrong-doing is called blaming the victims.


Also putting your hands over your eyes and saying peek-a-boo I can't see you - doesn't make the virus go away. So unless Bezos has the mental capacity of a toddler - claiming ignorance is just screwy. And for men who seem to know all the nuances of every tax law in existence and how to work their way seamlessly through K-street and numbers and algorithms out the ass, claiming they can't possibly fathom that disregarding the CDC guidelines is going to kill people is pretty unbelievable. Which makes it a malicious and willful intent to harm.

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''Neoliberal Austerity and Private Health Care Has Worsened US Pandemic'' ...

from DemocracyNow!'s Amy Goodman - in conversation with Gregg Gonsalves is assistant professor in epidemiology of microbial diseases at Yale School of Public Health; Amy Kapczynski is professor of law at Yale Law School & a co-founder of he ''Law and Political Economy'' blog. They are co-directors of the Global Health Justice Partnership.

''Capitalism and Neoliberalism are to blame and they kill ... and they are killing Americans right now with this pandemic." Period.

ergo, fiat justitia!

''Gasping for Air, Gasping for Care ... so ... what does Global Health Justice look like?''

  • from ''Neoliberal Austerity and Private Health Care Has Worsened US Pandemic''-{excerpt} DemocracyNow!'s Amy Goodman - in conversation w/Gregg Gonsalves is assistant professor in epidemiology of microbial diseases at Yale School of Public Health;Amy Kapczynski is professor of law at Yale Law School and a co-founder of the Law and Political Economy blog. They are co-directors of the Global Health Justice Partnership.)

  • https://truthout.org/video/neoliberal-austerity-and-private-health-care-has-worsened-us-pandemic/ (Important Video & Transcript)

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23146) 1 day ago

Capitalism kills. Our disjointed, fragmented, for profit healthcare system is the main thing to blame for the rapid spread of COVID 19 and the difficulties we are having at flattening the curve.

From Flowers' Truthout:

"According to the Global Health Security Index, the United States ranks 175th out of 195 countries for access to health care. Italy ranks 74th and it is having problems with overcrowded hospitals and being forced to prioritize patients for intensive care based on their likelihood of surviving. Since 1975, while the U.S. population has risen from 216 million people to 331 million, the total number of hospital beds has declined from 1.5 million to 925,000."

The truth is, we have a very good health care system for a very few people but when looked at in the round, for the whole country, it's quite poorly and lacking.

Capitalism and neoliberalism are to blame and they kill and they are killing Americans right now with this pandemic.

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23146) 1 day ago

Kudos to Chris Smalls. Staten Island Amazon worker, a hero in my world!

We need more Chris Smalls on this earth! Solidarity to him!

I just looked to see if there is a fundraiser to help him out. Don't see one yet, but I'll post it here if I find one.

Thread: Medicare Under Attack
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23146) 1 day ago

Americans are losing health insurance by the millions each week. 3.3 million lost their jobs last week and many of those will be unable to afford to pay the COBRA bills to continue the insurance.

From: https://www.kff.org/uninsured/fact-sheet/what-issues-will-uninsured-people-face-with-testing-and-treatment-for-covid-19/

"People who are uninsured will likely face unique barriers accessing COVID-19 testing and treatment services. Over half of the uninsured do not have a usual place to go when they need medical care, and one in five uninsured adults in 2018 went without needed medical care due to cost"

To sum up, many uninsured will die. They'll die because they won't seek care. They'll die because if they do seek care, they'll be turned away.

This is moral turpitude as expressed by the USA and we're all responsible. None are off the hook.

Thread: Medicare Under Attack
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''What Issues Will Uninsured People Face with Testing and Treatment for COVID-19?'' by Jennifer Tolbert:

fiat lux ...

Thread: Medicare Under Attack
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''Since 1975, while the U.S. population has risen from 216 million people to 331 million - the total number of hospital beds has declined from 1.5 million to 925,000'' and - ''United States currently has only 2.8 hospital beds per 1,000 residents .. just a little over half the average of 5.4 beds per 1,000 residents in other wealthy countries''!!! - from ...


Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

''USA's Wave of Hospital Closures Left Us Ill-Equipped for COVID-19'', by Dr. Margaret Flowers:

Sadly, yes "really - $4.5 TRILLION to corporations who do nothing but suck our blood without a flinch (who) complain about $1 billion for ventilators, that'll save thousands of actual human lives? F-kd up'' Furthermore, at what point do Americans wake up to the real Class War being waged against them?!

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

Thread: "Let Them Eat Covid!" (says Politicians to Us)
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 day ago

Who'd comply with evil rules?! Well ... Amazon worker Chris Smalls helped lead an Amazon walkout for lack of COVID19 compliance that put workers, customers and New York in danger. Today, Chris Smalls was shamefully fired by the wealthiest man in the world Jeff Bezos! Support The Amazon Strike! Sign:

Yes ''The universe doesn't care about the rule you had to follow. And neither should you. Always let your conscience be your guide'' & ''They made me do it - doesn't count.'' Well said. Solidarity to U and Mr. elf.

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

The U.S. contracted mononucleosis from kissing the Cloaca Maxima carrying the Epstein-Barr virus. The Deep Whites' House has discovered that the Occupant's ancestor, a draft-Heer escapee from Teutonia ( obviously being reclassified as an enemy state,) operated a brotherhoochy. The electorate voted not for bullet-hard flavorless non-rotten tomato, but for the bullies' Colon Power to shit.

Wall Street safeguards the hole-in-one [In]Fidelity birdie Investments on golf courses. Why do Little Fingers like them? They're "Indian"-conservation-land reservations made of the 5th element, only to be found on the trans-Aristotelian-crystal sphere where the Supreme Finger traces the phonographic groove to make the music of the spheres.

I was chided for being so "negative" but apparently people's being "positive" is counter-balancing me. The great equalizer's tendency is always towards balance and its acting based upon the fragments of complaints which it has overheard ( "When your ancestral stone lion cries blood, the Deluge'll arrive," but no one had heard our ancestral stone lion "cries," although there was "blood," and then there was much more than bloody teardrops... sickening... )

Thread: Systemic Sociopathy - Bullies Targeting the Meek in a Pandemic
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2430) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 day ago

Power and Wealth! The eternal plot. Civilization is the story of ruling elite classes that measure the progress of our human community by their increases in POWER and the wealth. The latter is created by our common works that the former allows them to take from us.

And it's not just Jeff Bezos the same is true for the big men running hospitals, running government, running things into the ground because it gives them a petty thrill watching other human beings suffer. These men are so rich it isn't really about the money - they have enough to live a hundred lifetimes and relax in comfort. What drives them to rise to greater power and positions and to keep working at what they do? It seems apparent that men like Trump while pretending to be on the side of the common man - really enjoys watching and creating and having the front row seat and crown to wield suffering upon the little people. It excites them, it releases their boredom, and inner self hate. Trump even projects his own anger onto Greta Thunberg calling her a very angry little girl - when he is talking about himself. But the thing they love most of all after inflicting pain upon the meek is pretending to want to rescue them playing the hero role admonishing themselves as philanthropists, and great men of the people, stepping in to ease the stage of suffering they set to begin with.

"Here at last is the sanitizer I bestow to you with all the pains it took me to get it here for you. On top of this here is a bonus box of tissues."

But don't get too comfortable - won't be long before he is pulling that rug out again.

Thread: "Why Bernie Sanders Matters" by Seth Ackerman
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

''Reality Has Endorsed Bernie Sanders''! by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor:

which, this .. ''For years, the United States has gotten away with persistently chipping away at its weak welfare state by hiding or demonizing the populations most dependent on it. The poor are relegated as socially dysfunctional and inept .. unable to cash in on the 'riches of American society'. There are more than forty million poor people in the U.S., but they almost never merit a mention. While black poverty is presented as exemplary, white poverty is obscured, and Latinos and other brown people’s experiences are ignored. As many as Four In Five Americans say they live paycheck to paycheck. Forty per cent of Americans say that they cannot cover an unexpected four-hundred-dollar emergency expense.

So''This is a virus that will thrive in the intimacy of American poverty. For years now, even in the midst of the economic recovery from the 2008 financial crisis, rising rents and stagnant salaries and wages have forced many millions of families to improvise housing; nearly four million households live in overcrowded homes. ''

And .. ''The case has never been clearer for a transition to Medicare for All, but its achievement clashes with the Democratic Party’s decades-long hostility to funding the social-welfare state. At the heart of this resistance is the pernicious glorification of “personal responsibility” .. through which success or failure in life is seen as an expression of personal fortitude or personal laxity.The American Dream, we are told, is anchored in promise of unfettered social mobility, a destiny driven by self-determination & perseverance. This ingrained thinking evades the fact that it was FDR's New Deal, in the nineteen-thirties - and the G.I. Bill, in the nineteen-forties, that, through a combination of federal programs, subsidies, and government-backed guarantees, created a middle-class life style for millions of white Americans.''

As for Joe Biden ... FK HIM! "He’s reading from notes and still can’t figure out what to say'' - from...

In UK it is now abundantly clear as the Corona Crisis unfolds, that Jeremy Corbyn was the right man for the right time but the only reason why he is not the UK's PM today, is because of the mainstream media, the Labour Party's right wing & The Israel Lobby,desperate to prevent a Democratic Socialist who wants Palestinians to have human and civil rights too. So, don't let the same playbook be used against Bernie!

e tenebris. lux?!

Thread: Medicare Under Attack
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23146) 2 days ago

All Covid 19 medical bills should be covered through Medicare immediately.

Fact Sheet on Uninsured in America:


Some insurance companies are waiving deductibles and co-insurance. Tell me what this does for the uninsured? Absolutely nothing.


Thread: Pandemic Speculation
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

''Surveillance Will Outlast The Pandemic! Edward Snowden’s Warning'' by "CPH: DOX''

"Giving the government access to biometrics could open up alarming new ways for governments to spy on citizens," Snowden said. "They already know what you're looking at on the internet" - he said. "They already know where your phone is moving. Now they know what your heart rate is & what your pulse is. What happens when they start to mix these and apply artificial intelligence to it?''

''Protecting Americans where they live - ought to be the national security priority of our time. The existing national security state is incapable of fulfilling that imperative, while its leaders, fixated on waging distant wars, have yet to even accept that they have a responsibility to do so. Worst of all .. even in this election year, no one on the national political scene appears to recognize the danger now fully at hand.''

hmmmm et qui custodiet ipsos custodes?!

Thread: **Stim-u-less**
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

Goldman fkn Sachs sucks, man! I know for an absolute fact that they are marketing themselves right now, as having insights for Post Corona Virus Crisis investment opportunities!! And how do I know this? Because due to a tweet I did not long ago, critiquing the bastards ... they now seem to see fit to market themselves to me on my Twitter Time-Line .. much to my chagrin!!! Here is an example that sent me on a research mission - https://twitter.com/GoldmanSachs/status/1244308339628130308 &, because I did not like what I saw, I decided to research who "Sharmin Mossavar-Rahmani" was & this is what I found:

One prejudice I have about RW Iranian-Americans, is the same one I have re. RW, Cuban-Americans ie. a rabid desire to lay waste their home countries of origin to the ravages of Neoliberal Economics, via US Neocon Imperial Foreign Policy! Re.2nd link, note: https://tiger21.com/ & ask WtF are these fkrs about?!! Thanx for your reply above & I was suitably enraged & disgusted by it in equal measure - growl & yuck!!!

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas!

Jay Carney - Amazon spokesman in his calm patronizing tone - "LOOK" - (we are doing everything the government is letting us get away with during this time - we are hiring, we're paying employees 2 whole dollars more than minimum wage, we are all working as a TEAM) "LOOK" we are making sure our facilities are safe (gaslight / lie/ gaslight/ lie) - they have the option to go home unpaid and lose their apartments and houses that is their CHOICE and we encourage them to make whatever CHOICE they feel comfortable making" - as he fucking talks to CNN from his home laptop camera.

Lying scum. You put your kid or your parent on that line and then you tell me they are safe, you work there and then go home to your toddler or elderly parent - how about you get out there yourself you coward. How about Amazon institutes an actual essential policy on goods allowed at this time? Are you willing to die for some zappos Jay? Are you willing to risk exposure for some zappos for your child? Would you tell your son or daughter to "get to work and risk their lives?" Who gets to decide - whose lives are disposable - you? Who made you God Jay Carney. Who bought your soul? How many houses do you own? How many stock shares have you been given? (Unlike your workers). This company needs to be disbanded and torn apart. If we need actual essential goods delivered - we have a national guard with proper equipment who be sure won't be delivering the frivolous crap Amazon has decided is essential to white collar lives.

Blue Collar Lives Matter!!! You are all in it as a TEAM - WHY aren't the executives out there on the FRONT LINES?? PItching in to their own BILLION(S) of Dollars profit company - as a you know TEAM. You don't own the lives of employees - they do not belong to you simply because you have been allowed to do business in America. This country and therefore your "essential" company can be taken for the people and by the people or disbanded if we so choose. I stand with workers. You can't even stand on the same line as them to do your part as you risk their lives for profits. And any politician who would be unwilling to put their child or parent on that same line or stand on it themselves - has no right to make this decision to sacrifice other people's family members. Who gets to decide whose lives are disposable in the name of profit. How much tax does Amazon actually pay in this nation as opposed to offshoring headquarters and getting every write-off under the sun?

Just like true heros of this pandemic will emerge (mostly among medical staff doctors and nurses working in the long stripped down for profit greed driven hospital industry trying to do their best in a system that fights them in trying to put human beings first) - so too will emerge the profiteers and thieving lying greedy scum.

Including among our politicians who have decided to enable the ABUSE of our citizenry by the greed mongering corporation which feeds and lines their own pockets. THE WORKER ABUSE CYCLE MUST END IF NOT NOW THEN WHEN??!!!!

If the MARKET IS SO FAIR - then allowing employees the option of unemployment - would determine the worth of the job. IF the market was fair then AMAZON and others would have to compete with the choice of layoff wages. They would have to dig a little deeper into their gold lined pockets and pay hazard pay and life insurance and pensions and benefits to family. Is it worth the risk? Well let's give employees an actual choice - and let the FAIR market decide then.


The world's richest man - grinds his employees into covid dust proving once and for all trickle down is another word for wage slavery. YOU WORK, YOU DIE, BILLIONAIRES THRIVE!!!!!

UNION NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!