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Thread: Bernie Sanders Wants to Tax Stock Trades to Pay for Free College
[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25845) from Coon Rapids, MN 38 minutes ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 30 minutes ago

Clueless as ever, I see. The GOP can not be just wished away can they? A minimum rump of perhaps 10/15/20% and possibly more - mostly made up of white people - will never vote for anything other than Repugnants - because they are a combination of heavily Fox etc. indoctrinated; are pathologically anti-progressive and - utterly hate the idea of anything accruing to people of color - who they do NOT like!

You know this already, so a simplistic 'Kill The GOP' doesn't mean anything as some people are happy as Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving! These people can not be relied on to see any in any light because they prefer to jealously hold onto their identity of abject political blindness and the 0.01% love that.

So - STOP getting distracted by the prospects of The Corporate Co-opted Democratic Party at the next election or even the 3 or 4 after that.You and your kids and grand kids are now in a generational struggle and in that context, building a Mass Movement From Below makes THE most sense as a socio-political strategy for The 99%. That is why OWS exists and we are here - whether you choose to see that or not.

Therefore, given what I said, I'll encourage you to engage with the http://www.leftforum.org/ and finally as per your forum-post, do try to see: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30953-a-robin-hood-tax-to-pay-for-college-for-all

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

Shit66 is that you? How many of the labor party do you think you managed to get to opt out?

On another note - did you see where in Ireland - the people of Ireland - voted to make a difference?

Ireland gives resounding 62.1 percent 'yes' to gay marriage Yahoo News · 17 hours ago

Joy on the streets of Dublin following 'yes' gay marriage vote DUBLIN (AP) — Irish voters have resoundingly backed …


But you and your opt out buddies keep trying to get the American publi to opt-out.

Because:

9th track: (Take no action) "as Nothing can be done - believe us!"

We support the status quo of handing the USA over to the 1% - but that just don't float - so instead we urge taking no action and clothe it in an appearence to be rebelling against the system - and we are so happy that few catch on to these facts

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Yeah it's pretty clear, we ain't for you

But we can shake it, shake it like we're supposed to do

'Cause We got that boom boom that all the 1%'s chase

All the right crap spread in all the right places

We see the citizens groups working that action to take

We know that shit ain't real (believe us)

Come on now, make it stop ( as we like things the way they are)

If you got apathy apathy - just raise it up

'Cause every inch of you is perfect

From the bottom to the top

Yeah, our Koch he told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold to at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

We're bringing doody back

Go ahead and tell them citizens groups hey

No, We're not playing - you stink - you're naive,

We're here to tell you,

Every inch of you is played from from the cradle to the grave

Yeah, our Koch told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger, lugano, windyacres - harmonizing & the Cronies singing back-up)
Thread: Bernie Sanders Wants to Tax Stock Trades to Pay for Free College
[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25845) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 hour ago

[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 0 minutes ago

Clueless as ever, I see. The GOP can not be just wished away can they? A minimum rump of 10/15/20% and possibly more - mostly made up of white people - will never vote for anything other than Repugnants because they are a combination of heavily Fox etc. indoctrinated; are pathologically anti-progressive and - utterly hate the idea of anything accruing to people of color. You know this already, so a simplistic 'Kill The GOP' doesn't mean anything as some people are happy to Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving!

Stop getting distracted by the prospects of The Corporate Co-opted Democratic Party at the next election or even the 3 or 4 after that. You and your kids and grand kids are in a generational struggle and in that context, building a Mass Movement From Below makes THE most sense as a socio-political strategy for The 99%.

Therefore, given what I said, I'll encourage you to engage with the http://www.leftforum.org/ and finally as per your forum-post, see: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30953-a-robin-hood-tax-to-pay-for-college-for-all

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

9th track: (Take no action) "as Nothing can be done - believe us!"

We support the status quo of handing the USA over to the 1% - but that just don't float - so instead we urge taking no action and clothe it in an appearence to be rebelling against the system - and we are so happy that few catch on to these facts

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Yeah it's pretty clear, we ain't for you

But we can shake it, shake it like we're supposed to do

'Cause We got that boom boom that all the 1%'s chase

All the right crap spread in all the right places

We see the citizens groups working that action to take

We know that shit ain't real (believe us)

Come on now, make it stop ( as we like things the way they are)

If you got apathy apathy - just raise it up

'Cause every inch of you is perfect

From the bottom to the top

Yeah, our Koch he told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold to at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

We're bringing doody back

Go ahead and tell them citizens groups hey

No, We're not playing - you stink - you're naive,

We're here to tell you,

Every inch of you is played from from the cradle to the grave

Yeah, our Koch told us don't worry about your stance

He says, people they like a little more BS to hold at night

You know we won't support no publc-figure, speaking truth to all,

So, if that's what's you're into

Then go ahead and move along

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

Because you know we're all about that base, 'Public base, to take no action

We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base, take no action We're all 'bout that base, 'Public base

  • by (mdonelly, turbocharger, lugano, windyacres - harmonizing & the Cronies singing back-up)

Clueless as ever, I see. The GOP can not be just wished away can they? A minimum rump of perhaps 10/15/20% and possibly more - mostly made up of white people - will never vote for anything other than Repugnants - because they are a combination of heavily Fox etc. indoctrinated; are pathologically anti-progressive and - utterly hate the idea of anything accruing to people of color - who they do NOT like!

You know this already, so a simplistic 'Kill The GOP' doesn't mean anything as some people are happy as Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving! These people can not be relied on to see any in any light because they prefer to jealously hold onto their identity of abject political blindness and the 0.01% love that.

So - STOP getting distracted by the prospects of The Corporate Co-opted Democratic Party at the next election or even the 3 or 4 after that.You and your kids and grand kids are now in a generational struggle and in that context, building a Mass Movement From Below makes THE most sense as a socio-political strategy for The 99%. That is why OWS exists and we are here - whether you choose to see that or not.

Therefore, given what I said, I'll encourage you to engage with the http://www.leftforum.org/ and finally as per your forum-post, do try to see: http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30953-a-robin-hood-tax-to-pay-for-college-for-all

Ok so inherently bad nature that is nurtured...is it my job to figure out the seeds of evil or protect myself and loved ones from it? While I would like to believe people are capable of reform ...can an evil person be changed? More likely, they will always try to justify their behavior ( Hitler ring a bell)...can a wallstreet hedge fund banker be brought to compassion? Can a criminal who rapes and pillages?

Society's answer for evil people is rule of law. The way to contain it is confinement. We can't suddenly say it is ok to let people trample others because of this or that. A general consensus is formed as to what is acceptable...when someone crosses that boundary line...( wall street or isis) there are repercussions...or should be in my opinion.

Now one can definitely argue the nature of the repercussions and what they should be...and I think we do a lot. The law allows for much gray area. In middle eastern societies very black and white as well as very archaic ideas...their societies aren't free they live under religious lock down with no room for debate. We have the luxury of having this discussion right now...it is a beautiful thing.

One wall street is trying to change. They seem to be above any rule of law. That is a bad thing. Justification can be bad too. Part of the journey into adult hood is the quest for ones own morality honing the compass...finding right vs wrong...discovering our own ability to reject or accept who we want to be in this world...while I more than agree many have a much harder battle than others ( lucky sperm club born into freedom wealth etc)...we still have to seek out the right road...it is universal and perhaps our purpose. We don't need to find God....we need to find ourselves in my belief.

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Now that I have broken up your monolithic block of text, I will read it much better ... as my eyes are not what they once were. Though I find that I can agree with some of what you say above but as in my reply to you here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/amonymous-opworldbank/#comment-1060075 I've issues too.

I find my ire at the Venal Bankers totally trumps my ire at the loose morality of some other poorer, less advantaged people. The Parasitic Psychopathology is something they intentionally select for and that's just unconscionable. They're ignorant of and insulated from the very deleterious effects of their behavior and blight our society. Then of course there's the issue of their corruption and co-option of democracy.

I'll presume that you had time to look at the HuffPo link above but just in case not, here it is again... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/08/poverty-race-ethnicity-dna-telomeres_n_7228530.html

Thread: The People's Mic...5/20/15
[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 1 hour ago

I know for a fact that you won't be the only Forum-Occupier in attendance at http://www.leftforum.org/ - so I hope y'all can meet and say hi and the same from me too :-) Solidarity and now a final link for later reading http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/19844-food-stamps-are-affordable-corporate-welfare-is-not

Thread: Did Someone Say Jill Stein?
[-] 0 points by lugano (1221) 2 hours ago

I hope http://taxwallstreetparty.org/ are present and/or represented at http://www.leftforum.org/

I hope Universal Healthcare is discussed at http://www.leftforum.org/ and with that in mind ... I will leave three links here below but I get how busy you are getting ready for your trip to NYC. Good luck, be well; have a good one + solidarity.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30958-obamacare-s-health-plan-choice-benefits-are-vastly-overrated

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30862-trans-pacific-partnership-related-bill-contains-a-medicare-poison-pill

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30885-insurers-backed-obamacare-then-undermined-it-now-they-re-profiting-from-it

The last link is by Wendell Potter, a former Health Ins. Corp. executive and whistleblower, who really knows his onions, so to speak - and the first link is by a Physician - Dr. Philip Caper of Brooklin is a founding board member of Maine AllCare, a nonpartisan, nonprofit group committed to making health care in Maine universal, accessible and affordable for all.

Thread: All one really needs to know about the TPP = History being repeated
[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (25845) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 hours ago

Speak-up Speak-out (the attached petition offers you the ability to add to the message - speak out against fast track and the TPP because worker abuse is not restricted to any one industry and will be so much worse if TPP is fast tracked & passed)


"The company lied." Watch John Oliver on the Abusive Chicken Industry and Take Action

The chicken industry has a secret history of abuse. This story isn't about chickens (though there's plenty to say about that). This is about the powerful poultry industry reaping massive profits on the backs of our farmers and retaliating when they speak out.

Chicken is America's most popular meat, yet many chicken farmers are living below or near the poverty line. And when these farmers try to change the conditions that have forced many to live like indentured servants on their own land — these companies bully them.

This is unacceptable. Watch John Oliver's revealing piece and send a message to Congress to protect chicken farmers from retaliation by Big Poultry.

Food & Water Watch has been working on this problem for years, and we've seen small, incremental steps toward progress. But every time we move forward, the powerful poultry lobby exerts their influence over members of Congress to block common-sense protections for farmers.

It's past time for Congress to wake up and stop caving to special interest money. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (OH-9) has introduced an amendment that would protect chicken farmers from retaliation if they speak out against abuses by Big Poultry.

Watch this clip, then tell Congress to support Rep. Kaptur's amendment to protect farmers.

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Here's something that Wall Street seems to find utterly intolerable, despite how very reasonable it sounds to the rest of us ... http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30953-a-robin-hood-tax-to-pay-for-college-for-all So I hope it features well at https://twitter.com/LeftForum Have a good LeftForum th.

Thread: The People's Mic...5/20/15
[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3266) from Waterville, NY 5 hours ago

I have my tickets,I'm registered,I will be tweeting like a cricket on meth.Gotta lapse on the internet for a couple days-"Getting ready to take my Country Ass to Left Forum 2015 in New York City." YeeeHa!

Thread: Did Someone Say Jill Stein?
[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3266) from Waterville, NY 5 hours ago

TWINKLE

TWINKLE As long as it costs them nothing,or doesn't interfere with their hovering of Profits,they really don't give a shit.

Thread: Bernie Sanders Has Had Consistent Message for 4 Decades
[-] 0 points by trashyharry (3266) from Waterville, NY 6 hours ago

You know-you're right.I could try to make trouble over at Town Hall.The people who do this stuff work there.They could possibly get in trouble.Then their RELATIVES,who work at all the other Town departments could:1) send the codes department to find codes violations on my property 2) send an assessor to reevaluate the rate of my property taxes 3) stop reliably picking up my garbage 4) arrange for the water district to find a reason to condemn any or all of my wells 5) make sure huge mountains of snow are so securely wedged into the entrance of my driveway that they can't be moved...And there may be OTHER THINGS they can do that I don't even know about..."Republicans"

Thread: 7 ways Bernie Sanders could transform America
[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1756) 6 hours ago

If those polls were real they would show Bernie at a 5-1 lead over The Hag.

But alas they are not, and perception is reality. Bernie better come up with a plan on how to fight the bias of the polling numbers that are broadcast nationally, or he is toast.

bankers control the cash flow though sources that may be turn on and off at will


this determines the primary *cash producing jobs

that money is than spent on food, rent and entertainment and filter back up/out


Thread: Bernie Sanders Has Had Consistent Message for 4 Decades
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 6 hours ago

So your name was removed from the rolls? and have you told anyone about this?

Ok so inherently bad nature that is nurtured...is it my job to figure out the seeds of evil or protect myself and loved ones from it? While I would like to believe people are capable of reform ...can an evil person be changed? More likely, they will always try to justify their behavior ( Hitler ring a bell)...can a wallstreet hedge fund banker be brought to compassion? Can a criminal who rapes and pillages? Society's answer for evil people is rule of law. The way to contain it is confinement. We can't suddenly say it is ok to let people trample others because of this or that. A general consensus is formed as to what is acceptable...when someone crosses that boundary line...( wall street or isis) there are repercussions...or should be in my opinion. Now one can definitely argue the nature of the repercussions and what they should be...and I think we do a lot. The law allows for much gray area. In middle eastern societies very black and white as well as very archaic ideas...their societies aren't free they live under religious lock down with no room for debate. We have the luxury of having this discussion right now...it is a beautiful thing. One wall street is trying to change. They seem to be above any rule of law. That is a bad thing. Justification can be bad too. Part of the journey into adult hood is the quest for ones own morality honing the compass...finding right vs wrong...discovering our own ability to reject or accept who we want to be in this world...while I more than agree many have a much harder battle than others ( lucky sperm club born into freedom wealth etc)...we still have to seek out the right road...it is universal and perhaps our purpose. We don't need to find God....we need to find ourselves in my belief.

Thread: PBS NewsHour: Sen. Bernie Sanders on taxes, trade agreements and Islamic State
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 7 hours ago

I think the key is to completely destroy the GOP, their name their reputation to make normal people no more comfortable sitting around listening to someone speak of their involvement in the GOP as they would be if it were the Klan they spoke of, sure it's your right to speak fondly of the GOP or the Klan or whatever one wants to but it is also my right to have a normal human reaction to such speech.

So of course that would mean voting against then down the ticket too.

Thread: Bernie Sanders Wants to Tax Stock Trades to Pay for Free College
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 7 hours ago

When one considers that "national interests" are more correctly labeled "corporate interests" in most uses, it seems a transaction tax sufficient to cover defense and education would be in order, transportation as well now that I think of it.

I was not trying to be an apologist in my previous comment, but I was trying to make you realize that your views are shortsighted. The atrocities that happen in the Middle East are not happening in a vacuum. Instead ethnic hatreds have been revived which to a large degree has served the corrupt system well. And we, having hegemonic pursuits, did not go there to stabilize, and bring peace to the region.

The Bernay's driven ill effects of neoliberalism are pervasive in our society, and most of us have been 'infected', perhaps without realizing it, including me. They have propagated divisions, and insensitivity both within this country, and our views of the World. Humbly, I'm still undergoing an epiphany in realizing the World is not how the MSM, and our corrupt leaders have portrayed it to be.

You have written some very compelling posts on here that have had me riveted. From them, my own experiences and other people who I have listened to, I have grown, and realize the World does not tick in the way that I thought it did for most of my life.

Our plights may be different, but the cause is the same. A criminal elite that prioritizes the interests of big money, and minimizes the value of human life.

Thread: Bernie Sanders Has Had Consistent Message for 4 Decades
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 7 hours ago

and don't forget the GOP exists to make the rich richer, that truth should always be front and center, make them answer the charge, and Bernie makes the point extremely well, the people will rally behind that I think

Thread: Bernie Sanders Has Had Consistent Message for 4 Decades
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6629) from Phoenix, AZ 7 hours ago

If you can let the GOP win and live with yourself that's on you and if filling out a form keeps you from supporting real change, that's just sad.

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