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Thread: Bernie, We Need You. The Time For A Third Party Is Now!
[-] 1 points by grapes (4467) 7 hours ago

The train is coming. All aboard or douche its cheesy smell (of Angina clintoris?) in the River Kwai?

Bernie supporters built the bridge to Nowhere. It's not even in Al-as-ka but there are more Islamo-Nippono mosqu-ito-es on the train than on the sheet-glass windows of the Al-as-kan airport in Beau Bankster. Banzai!

Thread: Bernie, We Need You. The Time For A Third Party Is Now!
[-] 1 points by Shule (2545) 15 hours ago

Bernie is a fraud. If Trump is not palettable (he's not,) then go with Dr. Stein.

Thread: Serious Malfunction
[-] 1 points by Shule (2545) 15 hours ago

It's the lizard! It is the lizard inside the woman suit, and it is trying to get out.

Thread: Bernie, We Need You. The Time For A Third Party Is Now!
[-] 1 points by Shule (2545) 15 hours ago

Yes, you have a point. Little bits of sand can grime up a set of gears. It really doesn't take much. What ever it is we should all be doing what the Establishment does not expect, and what it doesn't want.

Thread: Bernie, We Need You. The Time For A Third Party Is Now!
[-] 1 points by grapes (4467) 22 hours ago

During her official function sitting on the toilette behind the bamboo wall, Mx. Cheese ensured the survival of the U.S. by spiriting the Red Reset Button out of the country and presenting it to Sergey Lavrov. Don't worry about President Trump pressing the Red Button because the Russians know that fireworks are only meant for grown-ups.

I think Raygun got that through to them. It was bad that he had actually said that the bombing of Russia would commence in five minutes. We are all children of God, including Trump and the Russians, aren't we? -- so no fireworks.

New York where Trump's family is will be incinerated should the Russians press the Red Button. I don't worry about it because I'll be treated as well as his family members still in New York, at the bull's eye. Free cremation.

Thread: Police State Beatings & Murder
[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (5798) 1 day ago

Thank you for posting this. Another hysterical cowardly cop. Wondering if this cop was trained in Israel.

The U.S. now needs WikiLeaks to be its free press. Hurray! WikiLeaks, defender of the U.S. Constitution's 1st Amendment Rights worldwide, safeguarding the transparency of the most transparent party in U.S. history. Was Mx. Cheese wearing fishnet underwear to turn back Slick commando dragon's hunt for fresh venison?

Guccifer 2.0, purportedly a Russian hacker, allies with WikiLeaks in the endeavor. Russia is afraid of Mx. Cheese, having experienced her diplomatic dealings and her positions on international interventions.

Things are really pathetic with U.S. press because WikiLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 had to step in to assure a free press.

For the benefit of the ignoramuses at the DNC:

Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington were "deists", i.e. they believed in a Supreme Being but NOT in Christianity.

James Madison's beliefs are not absolutely clear: deist or Episcopalian. John Adams was a Unitarian. As for Thomas Paine, he was most definitely an ATHEIST.

So don't believe the right-wing propaganda about all of the Founding Fathers being "good Christians". It just ain't so.

For details, check out the second answer on this link: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110403124716AAqVAPz

V E R Y wise words.

You're right that we should not "follow the piper into the river," It's time that we move "onto something else," lesson learned for many of us, including me.

And my apologies for insinuating that you never did anything to progress our struggle. Very few of us have done this before, and the important thing is that we do not get mired down into a futile situation, namely the "..Hillary train." The current and past history of the Democratic Party's sheep dogging is proof of that

I totally understand your disappointment and frustration with Bernie and agree with your assessment of the DNC's dirty, low-down tactics. I'm so glad wikileaks exposed them.

That being said, are you sure that you are fully taking into account the danger - to the U.S. and to the world - of a Trump presidency? Do you really want to give this man the power to press the red button?

I think there may be an important lesson to be learned from the recent federal election in Canada:


"DNC treatment of Sanders at issue in emails leaked to Wikileaks"


Jill Stein or Bust!

I used to like Mx. Cheese's experience in the handling of international diplomacy, cobbling together various sanctions by disparate countries to rein in rogue countries.

However, if that activity had been tainted by shadowy foundational donations, it would be a deal breaker for me. Her deliberately having private servers set up seems rather suspicious. Her cavalier attitude in handling various classified information disqualifies her being Commander-In-Chief. I can imagine that an intelligence agent harmed by leaked classified information may decide to take revenge and assassinate her. It's just too much for me to take should any of these be true.

More wikileaks evidence! What now?

P.S. I just checked the new wikileaks revelations. It really makes you want to throw up!

Attacking Bernie's religious beliefs - or unbeliefs - is as low as you can get. And as ignorant, if I may add. The Founding Fathers were NOT all Christians, far from it: in fact, many of them were openly critical of Christianity, which they considered a BETRAYAL of the true teachings of Jesus.

During his years in the White House, Thomas Jefferson went so far as to REWRITE the Bible so as to expurgate it from the many layers of nonsense, mistranslations, etc. that had accumulated over the years. The new version remains a best-seller to this day, under the title "The Jefferson Bible".

Is Bernie Sanders an atheist? Frankly, I don't give a s___t! His VALUES, especially on social justice issues, are far closer to those of Jesus than the values of those religious hypocrites associated with the Christian Right. And by the way, a great many atheists express deep admiration for Jesus - the REAL Jesus, not the caricature that the Church tried to ram down our throats. Nobel-prize winner Albert Camus, for instance, called Jesus "le meilleur d'entre nous", the best among us.

Thread: they are listening to us - from paul street
[-] 2 points by grapes (4467) 1 day ago

Drumpf is a businessman locally grown in New York. Business is all about having a good grasp of the cost/benefit ratio of various choices, very materialistic, but probably far more rational than one wedded to an ideology, especially an obsolete and outdated one, such as the unipolar idea of a global American Empire.

I have no doubt that the U.S. is dominant in many areas and should provide leadership when asked but the idea that we can dictate to the rest of the world is just plain nuts. The U.S. has grown quite capable newer allies such as Japan and Germany and kept some rather old and reliable allies (including former enemies). I think many of them jointly can handle at least regional leadership or policing by now. It's a bit like letting the now grown-up youngsters "mow the lawn."

Libertarians are all about me, me, me. Socialists are all about society, all of us working together and sharing. It's a huge difference especially in terms of economics and I urge anyone thinking of voting for Gary Johnson to really explore the definitions of "Libertarianism" vs. "Libertarian Socialism." Both look to cure the same problems but do so in very opposing ways.

Glad you are well. It's Jill for me unless Bernie wakes up from his slumber. Not sure what is going on with him. With the wikileaks evidence out, he's ridiculous if he continues to endorse Clinton. Jill Stein or Bust!

Jill Stein has managed to get herself on the ballot in November and she has managed to hold on to a platform that Occupy can easily stand with, so I'm with Jill Stein, all the way.

Bernie Sanders still has his chance to join up with her. She offered. He ignored her. I'm not impressed. I'll be even less impressed if he continues to endorse Hillary Clinton in light of the wikileaks evidence that shows how the DNC was trying to take him down. Undemocratic, unjust, tyranny. If he stands with her. He stands with all of that. I don't see how he can.

Bernie deserves the harsh words, sorry to say. In fact, he owes it to the people who donated more money than they could afford, and who went out and campaigned for him, to take back his endorsement of Hillary Clinton when he speaks at the convention, especially in light of the recent wikileaks evidence.

Thread: they are listening to us - from paul street
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22539) 1 day ago

Donald Trump calling for an end to the U.S. bringing regime change around the world really struck a note with me the other night. If that nutter can even see the harm we've done, how much of a nutter is Clinton? How much of a nutter is Obama? Perhaps they are worse than folks like Trump.

I know we are supposed to think the opposite is true and that Clinton is the lesser of two evils, but I'm just not buying it. I am quite certain you'll never hear her say she's for an end of the U.S. bringing regime change around the world.

Funny isn't it that the DNC was trying to use Bernie Sanders' possible atheism against him as shown in the wikileaks emails? As if his followers would have cared!

Maybe we need a little less religion and only more of it if they will bother to follow the teachings properly.

Tufts University (which seems to have a very strong school of international relations) has a great cultural map identifying the 11 nations of North America here: http://emerald.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/features/up-in-arms.html

Bernie (representing Vermont in Yankeedom nation) and the blacks belong to different nations but Mx. Cheese and the blacks have a carpetbagger's affiliation when she was in Arkansas in Deep South nation.

The old saying is correct because there is usually static friction or hysteresis to be overcome. Big pain gets attention and perhaps a real fix. Sometimes a "fool" is exactly what one needs for a grand champion because "fools" have turned out to be extremely creative sometimes. Yes, only a "fool" would do "that" so the wiser ones never tried and that was exactly why they had never succeeded. One prominent example was the blue LED breakthrough.

You sound like a politically burnt-out millennial (which you are not one but you are an older New Yorker; yeah, New York is somewhat hard to understand by folks elsewhere due to its apparent contradictions that are not real and yet all too real; "3" on the globalized helpline has been pressed and Tera eRex is out of Jurassic Park; has anyone seen the cowpie in the sky for all yet?) with your emphasis on change outside the political arena. You may well be correct that there is no real option for us little folk but you do know that even little monkeys can throw a wrench at the timing belt of our royal carnival clown car, no?

All systems have critical points. The art of steering is to discover, understand, and use them well. Greatest inventions all have this quality of using very little to control a lot.

Ok, so some folks rode a bow wave. I'll buy that. But let us all be smart enough to not follow the piper into the river.
Time to get off the Bernie-now Hillary train, and onto something else.

BTW; who said I never did anything? You don't know who I am, and what I do.