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Thread: Ways to make a difference!
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 hours ago

U$A needs a 3rd Party .. like humans need food and water. "The other two" the Democraps and The Repugnants are two cheeks of the one, same CORruPt Charade that 'Duopoly means Democracy in USA'!!! It doesn't!! And it never will! + FIY ...

because Bernie Sanders is going to need real activists (as opposed to partisan Democrap hacks) to drive his support - when the time comes!

repice, adspice, prospice ...

"U.S. national debt hit record high of $22 Trillion"*:

"So much for "conservative" economic policy. Republicans are a sham party. And, Democrats not far behind. Another reason future generations should be out on the street. This debt will be theirs to deal with along with environmental collapse. The two are connected." ... because it bears repeating. Also consider ...

e tenebris, lux ...

Thread: failure to represent: The Threat
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2280) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

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Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

Re.''Professor Lays Down TRUTH About Syria on CORPORATE MEDIA'' many thanx bw for your replacement link. Have U seen Prof. Jeffrey Sachs on TV anytime since those revealing truth-bombs? Nope. Me neither. + Re, Syria, FYI please consider:

e tenebris, lux?

Re. Venezuela - U did NOT read a single link in the comment U are replying to, did U?! I'm not reading never mind replying to your reactionary screed until and unless U try to address the points raised here:

quid pro quo?

Thread: I have my pick for 2020 Kirsten Gillibrand!
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

So "it looks like Kirsten should drop out, I guess I was wrong'' - from your own true & realistic reply

which is actually - the final reply on this forum-post thread & so feel free to see my reply just above that.

ipse dixit ...

"Your bullshit don't mean shit now" & "its put up or shut up time!" See what I did there?!! Read wtf I

wrote to U above 1 month ago and then either address the points raised in these two links here ...

respice, adspice, prospice ...

Still a partisan hack, huh?! Forum-posts & comments make up the work posters do here. For example

bw, doesn't do forum-posts & only limits herself to posting comments on others' forum-posts but will U

also claim that she is anything other than a strong Berner?!! STOP "your LOVE of the" GOPlite, dolt!!!

Now address the salient information here in the link below or again prove how confused U still remain:

et fiat lux ...

''Michael Moore on the Democrats" ...

So whyTF are U fixated on Stein & US Greens - when the clear & present danger for #Bernie2020 is

coming from right inside the rotten guts of U$A's Democraps?! The answers U seek, are in the short

video above. Welcome to The Real World as, IF DNC/2016 happens again - it will be 3rd Party time!

ad iudicium ...

Thread: This was once an optimistic place where people dreamed of changing the future.
[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8211) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

We couldn't even get people on the OWS forum to support Bernie back in 2015/2016 I was the only posting in support during the last primary, I do hope he gets more support from the forum and the party this time around.

Bernie Sanders triumphant on Fox.

"Sanders takes on Fox — and emerges triumphant"

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/bernie-sanders-millionaire-no-apology-1277009

Bernie Sanders entered the Fox's den on Monday night — and he not only survived the hourlong encounter, but often dominated.

"Appearing at a Fox News-hosted town hall, smack in the middle of Trump Country, the Democratic presidential front-runner played the part, swatting down tough questions from the hosts about health care, defense spending and his newfound wealth. At one point, the Vermont senator even led the network’s audience in a call-and-response that found them cheering loudly for his policies."

There. I'll repeat my tweet which didn't mention Jill Stein. YOU are the one mentioning Jill Stein.

Bernie Sanders and AOC are making the Democratic party better, Jill Stein has done nothing to make it better, but has divided the left and helped the right win, I hope you will be there fight the GOP and the Trump supporters going forward...we must KILL the GOP to save American!

Bernie Sanders triumphant on Fox.

"Sanders takes on Fox — and emerges triumphant"

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/bernie-sanders-millionaire-no-apology-1277009

Bernie Sanders entered the Fox's den on Monday night — and he not only survived the hourlong encounter, but often dominated.

"Appearing at a Fox News-hosted town hall, smack in the middle of Trump Country, the Democratic presidential front-runner played the part, swatting down tough questions from the hosts about health care, defense spending and his newfound wealth. At one point, the Vermont senator even led the network’s audience in a call-and-response that found them cheering loudly for his policies."

Only rebellion will prevent ecological apocalypse says George Monbiot.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/15/rebellion-prevent-ecological-apocalypse-civil-disobedience

"No one is coming to save us. Mass civil disobedience is essential to force a political response"

"Those who govern the nation and shape public discourse cannot be trusted with the preservation of life on Earth. There is no benign authority preserving us from harm. No one is coming to save us. None of us can justifiably avoid the call to come together to save ourselves."

"Our system – characterised by perpetual economic growth on a planet that is not growing – will inevitably implode. The only question is whether the transformation is planned or unplanned. Our task is to ensure it is planned, and fast. We need to conceive and build a new system based on the principle that every generation, everywhere has an equal right to enjoy natural wealth."

Truth.

Thread: I have my pick for 2020 Kirsten Gillibrand!
[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8211) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Okay it looks like Kirsten should drop out, I guess I was wrong, I do wonder how many will still be in it by the first debate.

Thread: Verizon's Senate
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33688) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Allowing the English colonial forces and the Tory traitors who'd stayed loyal to the king to keep their property and positions was the turning point that steered us to this inevitable self destruction.

& it wasn't an exercise in kindness thru leniency - it was done in the ages old tradition of - I just saved your ass - so if our situations should ever be reversed - I expect that you will also spare My Ass! quid-pro-quo

Thread: Verizon's Senate
[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2280) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 week ago

Democracy has been going down hill in America ever since "The Treaty of Paris of 1783." Allowing the English colonial forces and the Tory traitors who'd stayed loyal to the king to keep their property and positions was the turning point that steered us to this inevitable self destruction.

Thread: Verizon's Senate
[-] 2 points by elf3 (4062) 1 week ago

Millennials are brainwashed into thinking corporations are good for us and boomers are too busy counting up their shares to care. But this decision will affect the fate of freedom for every future generation to come. Restoring Net Neutrality is what PATRIOTISM looks like. We can't allow corporations domination over such a powerful communication tool as the internet. Their voices are already so much louder than all of ours combined that we can't even prevent them from turning our pockets inside out every month. How will we prevent them from lording over our failing democracy and using it as their personal PR platform? The internet would have been Hitler's best weapon. We should FEAR any entity trying to take and weild it for his own special use.

Killing the bill to restore net neutrality is treasonous. Any Senator who does should be tarred and feathered.

Thread: Mueller gives Trump his re-election plan.
[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 2 weeks ago

Investigations are absolutely no crap but we don't know what Ferrero-Rocher balls may shoot out, once assuming God's posture to unbend the passageway which is crooked due to Homo bi-pedal-ism. The reason that they have resulted in nothing on the Big Dick yet (there have already been numerous consequences for the little fingers all around; a whole bunch of them are now convicted criminals) is due to the obstruction (of justice, probably) by the unpatriotic traitorous party in power. The U.S. taxpayers paid for the investigations so we should get to read the report as much as national security consideration allows (we must protect intelligence sources and methods or we are finished as a nation,) similarly for Donald R. Fuck's tax returns (oversight needs to be practiced or it means nothing.) Hair Fuck didn't use a blind trust for avoiding conflicts of interest, possibly betraying us so we must know what it has been fucking around with beside the vaginas and holes on "golf" courses under the two golden arches. Loosey-goosey is unsatisfying.

I'm not myopic Texass batshit crazy like the blanched (due to the dwindling level of testosterone from the two nuts nearby in the onion temple) public hair pricking around the Tu lips of Donald R. Fuck.

I've discovered that the godly (Rodin pales, in the way of "The Thinker") way to sit upon the WET white china throne is to have a footstool under the feet while perching. "Man was made in God's image" and God has a footstool according to Isaiah 66:1. Bible study teaches us of God's way to keep us from constipations, diverticulitis, and hemorrhoids. Go straight in the way of the Lord to keep the pooflow smooth, for it's the path of Life.

Did God suffer from constipations, diverticulitis, and hemorrhoids before getting/creating the footstool? God must be a bit like Man because "Man was made in God's image" so there must be a correspondence from God for Man's stool afflictions. The English language is clever: a shittoad's stool makes a shitty toadstool. "Does what happened in Vegas stay in Vegas?" "Does anyone want to ride our Tu-154 subsonic cruise missiles?" "Don't worry! Did the U.S. Congress pass law against the assassination of cuntries' leaders? Trust me. Read my Tu lips. Spring is here -- the birds are singing." "It's a beautiful day in this neighborhood, a beautiful day for a neighbor. Would you be mine? Could you be mine?"

"Gib ein Körper Scheiße aus..."

carpe latrinariam

Thread: The Freedom to Enslave
[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 weeks ago

By going to war (artificially creating urgent demand and destroying the existing social order favoring the wealth-owning and ruling class through hyperinflation and revolutions.) The first rule of defying "have to pay" is "not to pay." The "have to" part is predicated upon an enforcement usually based upon a social order. This is why war rejuvenates growth after the massive destruction of just about everything. What can one do after a war facing mountains of rubble? Rent out the vaginas of the females to the conquerors' pleasurable activities to gain some initial capital. Then rebuild with that. The oldest profession is the newest profession. Human life came in and out of the vagina so rebirth started with that. That's what happened after the end of war in 1945. Condoms were massively issued by the military authorities in charge of the occupations. They weren't always effective.

In the olden days, people have much shorter lifespans than nowadays so there were many not-so-old and dependent orphans. Adoption was a social mechanism evolved to handle the humanitarian problem of taking care of the orphans. The ancient Romans did it. My clan did it, too. The "purity" of a so-called race or a so-called clan ( I doubt that defining my clan by our related genes works particularly well; a common recognition of belonging and mutual aid works better; my clan had its adopted-son "Augustus Caesar," just as the ancient Romans did ) is therefore highly suspect to me. This is why I believe that anyone claiming racial/clannish/familial purity is a bit ignorant of the reality of the admixture of all kinds of people involved in global wars and global trade. Inbreeding was largely reserved for the royal families of ancient Egypt and European courts. I believe that the people of the U.S.A. (undoutedly one of the countries most involved in global wars and trade) should qualify as mongrels unconditionally. We "adopted" or naturalized lots of people from all around the world and largely treated them as our very own. The chance of getting hemophilia inherited by the U.S. American children should be relatively lower here than among the European royalties related to Queen Victoria.

A kid asked me once, "Is the Earth overpopulated?" My answer was, "It is both overpopulated AND underpopulated." Why? There's insufficient specification in the question to nail down a specific answer. Carrying capacity varies with the cultural values, knowledge, technologies, available resources, information, wisdom, climate, weather, locale, personal preferences, trading capacities, etc.

Similarly, "Is the U.S.A. full?" Yes and No! The wild, wild U.S. West frontier where a family is gifted forty acres of land and a mule to work on it for themselves is closed. It may well be different to a certain extent if you have formed a corporation of the correct type -- learn from Arnold Schwarzenegger. Nowadays, the U.S. is more about knowledge and skills (or wealth if you're so endowed but by and large wealthy people like other havens better than this country where the people make the mistake of asking for a [so very presumptuously middle-class] bathroom when they actually need a toilet {a bathroom sharing plumbing with toilet equipments saves cost while having a bathtub area in a toilet room is a luxury in both space and expenditure relative to much of the World so the two put together makes for a middle-class orientation}) than about mule and land. Every new configuration on a higher level of complexity engenders new problems, regulations, laws, opportunities, etc. The U.S. has the largest technological military industrial machine in the world and it is still very innovative (perhaps due to our mongrel but still fairly harmonious culture fighting eternal wars and being bottom-oriented towards improving mundane things and solving problems, existing, imagined, designed, created, and nonexistent) so new opportunities are created. Just don't ask exactly what they may be. We don't know but we have many Taoist priests cooking all kinds of ¡gunpowder! to make elixir for immortality. All I know is that from time to time, I hear a Boom! Then it's time to go home for lunch.

Preparing for (starting as early as 1933 or even earlier,) fighting, and winning World War II taught the U.S. well the importance of science, mathematics, engineering, and (largely apolitical unlike the failed Soviet project for human lunar landing -- I feel that Orangutan is politicizing and ripping out more of our autopiloting and safety mechanisms so fuddy duddy gets a fuck while believing that he is fucking others) project management. There's a lot of basic scientific research funded by our government with an eye towards solving practical problems sometimes still residing far beyond the horizon. Practicality does drive most if not all of our endeavors. It helps to provide a goal for our basic scientific research efforts. I accept the following on blind faith alone that the nation of the U.S.A. spends the largest scientific and engineering research, study, design, development, and validation budget in the World. There are spinoffs! Many of them define our modern world and were originally started by understanding quantum theory and gaining our exquisite control over ferromagnetic materials, electrons, and photons.

Extrapolating into the future based upon our past fertile mistressing of materials and waves/particles, metamaterials and the technologies associated with them will probably become important in the lifetimes of the youngsters today. Someone said in jest perhaps that it's all done with smoke and mirrors. It's not far from the truth at all in my lifetime when lasers came of age and its light was first fingerprinted on a piece of white paper in a puff of smoke with the help of mirrors and then later controlled and used for laser printing as well as surgeries such as preventing the loss of the eyesights of people by welding to re-attach their retinas. "Coherence" of laser light was mysterious to me when I read about it in the early 1960s but the property of coherence/incoherence underlies the phenomena of all waves. Harmonic analysis is important. Yeah, I still wonder about how to control the iridescence of "the slipper of the girl next-door," by programming the properties of the quantum dots in which the electrons and photons interact, maybe similarly as in an octopus which can change its skin colors and patterns to express emotions such as anger or mimic its environment.

Thread: The Freedom to Enslave
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2280) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 weeks ago

"How can the economy grow when households, business, and government have to pay more and more of their revenue to the financial sector, which then turns around and lends its interest and related income out to indebt the economy even more?"

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/04/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos-a-four-part-interview-with-michael-hudson-a-new-reality-economics-curriculum-is-needed-part-4.html

Thread: The Freedom to Enslave
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2280) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 weeks ago

"Socrates and Aristotle found the major example to be creditors charging interest for lending 'barren' money. Interest had to be paid out of the debtor’s own product, income or finally, forfeiture of property; creditors did not provide means of making interest to pay off the loan.

"This is the opposite of Austrian School theories that interest is a bargain to share the gains to be made from the loan “fairly” between creditor and debtor. It also is the opposite of neoclassical price theory. The economics taught in universities today is based on a price theory that does not even touch on this point. The liberty that oligarchs claim is the right to indebt the rest of society and then demand full payment or forfeiture of the debtor’s collateral. This leads to massive expropriations, as did the Junk Mortgage foreclosures after 2008 when President Obama failed to write down debts to realistic market values for real estate financed on loans far beyond the buyer’s ability to pay. The result was 10 million foreclosures."

ibid

Thread: The Freedom to Enslave
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2280) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 weeks ago

It has all happened before!

"The wealth of the Greek and Roman oligarchies was the ancient counterpart to today’s Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (FIRE) sector, and their extractive and predatory behavior is what destroyed Antiquity."

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/04/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos-a-four-part-interview-with-michael-hudson-a-new-reality-economics-curriculum-is-needed-part-4.html

Thread: The Freedom to Enslave
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2280) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 weeks ago

"Once you inherit wealth, you tend to think that it’s naturally yours, not part of society’s patrimony for mutual aid. You see society in terms of yourself, not yourself as part of society. You become selfish and increasingly predatory as the economy shrinks as a result of your indebting it and monopolizing its land and property. You see yourself as exceptional, and justify this by thinking of yourself as what Donald Trump would call 'a winner,' not subject to the rules of 'losers,' that is, the rest of society. That’s a major theme in Greek philosophy from Socrates and Plato and Aristotle through the Stoics. They saw an inherent danger posed by an increasingly wealthy landholding and creditor ruling class atop an indebted population at large. If you let such a class emerge independently of social regulation and checks on personal egotism and hubris, the economic and political system becomes predatory. Yet that has been the history of Western civilization."

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/04/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos-a-four-part-interview-with-michael-hudson-the-inherent-financial-instability-in-western-civilizations-dna-part-3.html

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