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Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by grapes (5128) 1 day ago

Bullshit's dipenile-transcendent plan over Bush-it for M.A.G.A. is to get it pregnant again via Earth Pollution Agency on Earth Day.

Corporatocracy America's credo's, "they're going to use that last drop of oil, and they're going to use that last piece of metal, to make that last dollar of profit."

That attitude almost killed off the U.S. automobile industry due to its capturing the U.S. government so gas-mileage-increase mandates were repeatedly relaxed and delayed, rendering the U.S. automobile industry more profitable in the short term by slashing R&D but fatal in the long term were it not for the repeated bailouts by the government. The inaction on R&D in order to make and sell higher gas-mileage automobiles contributed greatly to shipping most of the automobile industry jobs overseas to Japan and landed the great city of Detroit in its current dire state of few jobs being available, de-population, rampant crimes, abandoned properties, gang violence, lack of tax revenue to maintain infrastructure, etc. Detroit was slated to die by the failure to regulate the automobile industry to meet the higher realistic expectations. The first requirement for any success is the clear articulation of an attainable goal and the high expectations to go with it.

As for switching the U.S. over to renewable energy, even if we had succeeded domestically, we would still be entangled in oil wars, contemplate this equation of analogy: electricity-run New York City subway system : still oil-dependent U.S.A. = renewable-energy-run U.S.A. : still oil-dependent World.

Even if the U.S. were 100% using renewable energy, our myriad linkages to the oil-dependent World would still hit us hard due to yet another oil shock. I thought New York City was doing just fine because I was riding the amazing subway ( making irrelevant the surface traffic jams and quite unnoticeable my living on a faulted island with Carl Schurz's statue located at the top of a fault being approached @11:15 after a steep and tiring climb up to Morningside Heights ) but how wrong I was!

Inflation took off. My Mom griped about rapidly rising grocery prices. Fresh orange juice at our Sunday family brunches gave way to Tang and shortly afterwards there were no more such brunches. My brother's and my own Christmas song recordings could never be played again because a burglar or burglars ransacked our apartment and stole the 8-track-magnetic-tape player/recorder and much else but I cared much more about the irreplaceable mementos, far more than the pocket-protecting cash-is-trash loose-change collection or my Dad's can of 35-cent subway tokens my parents used, each punched with a Y-shaped hole at the middle.

My father lost his job, probably due to the ensuing recession. In order to be away from the by-then-ridden-with-crimes racially integrated neighborhood and to cut down on housing cost, we moved away to a lily-white neighborhood where the residents were reputed to have guns, and lots of them. Yeah, that's where I learnt my appreciation of the guns used for security purpose so now I certainly support our Second Amendment. The burglars came no more or they had just found it too bothersome to get to so far away. The daily commutes took much longer. Our new residence was also much smaller. I was glad that I had shortly gone away to college to live in dormitories near/on campus. I worked my butt off to pay for it but a dorm-room was for me a "business-class" upgrade!

Shouldn't hospital infectious-disease isolation wards be called tribalism wards? And disinfectants be called mass-germ-murdering weapons?

Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22858) 1 day ago

U.S. could move to renewable energy pretty quickly if it wanted to. It just means changing policies and putting money into renewables instead of, oh, right, war. No fun for the oligarchs who get rich off of those wars.

https://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/smart-energy-solutions/increase-renewables/renewable-energy-80-percent-us-electricity.html

And, Saudi Arabia is only "important" while we march on using fossil fuels and creating wars to do so, but I'd use different words, such as "useful" to the oligarchs and "deleterious" the the masses.

Thread: "Putting PEOPLE First"
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 day ago

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WhatDemocratsShouldBPushingCampaigning

@TomPerez & t rest of t @DNC n office

U want Public Trust/Support?

Then

U should ALL pledge 2 push Bernie Sanders WHOLE 2016 campaign platform = 4 t PEOPLE

Become Members of T Sanders Institute (https://www.sandersinstitute.com/ ) & make a Pledge!


EDIT ->

Sent to the Sanders institute:

You should be getting office holders (current) to become members and have them take a pledge to serve the PUBLIC as in taking up Bernie's whole 2016 campaign platform.

A binding pledge - that they (office holders and new candidates) will resign from office if they fail to support the PUBLIC's BEST INTERESTS (most especially - the poor, the disabled & the lower middle class).

SOME Pledge components could be:

support of implementation of clean energy and the ending of the use of fossil fuels for energy production, heating for transportation (personal & commercial/industrial)

Support of top end limits of income ( CAPS ) to halt inflation that is fed by the greed of those at the top of ANY industry ( Insurance, Health Care, Finance, Investment, Manufacturing, Energy Production, Education, Real Estate, Communications/tele/broadcast/cable/satellite/internet "ALL" types and forms of BUSINESS ) this includes Owners, Executive Staff, Investors, Shareholders, Board of Directors etc etc etc etc

Support for making the wealthy (individuals, families, corporations) pay their fair share of taxes to support a Healthy Civilization.

Report those who actively support the WHOLE Public's BEST INTERESTS so that the public will know who is supporting them that they can inturn support to remain in office working for the BEST INTERESTS Of The PEOPLE !

Report those who FAIL to Uphold Their Pledge to work for the PEOPLE's Best Interests AND expel them from membership and work to remove them from office (as their pledge to resign can not be counted on as their pledge to support the people was also false) - the Public needs to know you (the institute & ALL of it's members/office holders) really are working for them and are committed to policing your ranks (enthusiastically) as well as policing the ranks of others in office who are NOT members of the Institute and are Not members of the Pledge to support The Public's Best Interests! THIS IS A FULL TIME 24/7/365 Task that must track and re[port to the PUBLIC "who" is working for the public and "how" they are doing it, as well as re[porting "who" is working against the Public and "how" they are doing that (!) in perpetuity (not occasionally as during an election cycle) as an ongoing performance report on government!

Thread: "Will the GOP Steal America's 2012 Election ?" by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman.
[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 2 days ago

Is this that "Brazil 66" gobbledygook cunt! Still trolling around this pointless forum to see her own blab! Pathetic.

Yeah, we live mushroomed in a 1% Occupied Plutocracy. We're kept in the dark and fed shit, busy working wage slave jobs, hurtling intellectually & prosperously & culturally in a downward spiral. Ignorant, frustrated and disengaged. Brad Friedman is a NeoLib sycophant, and part of the DNC-MSM (RussiaGate) collusion to thwart Bernie and the Progressive Revolution!

Paul Ryan's work for The 0.01% Parasite Class is done. He's off now to take the Koch Kash but duopoly

deluded dolts like U think that the departure of this repugnant GOP psychopath is "awesome" - whereas

U'll say zip about Dirty Dem, GOPlite Democraps - endorsing tRUMP's larcenous to the people, US MIC

enriching, Military Budget, whilst denuding the commons! For other home truths that U should face, see:

temet nosce ....

Seriously?!!! Just one word for something that may be ''old'' to U & I but I'll wager that the vast majority

of folk in the U$A have NO idea whatsoever about the facts described by Harvey Wasserman to Thom

Hartmann!! U don't really think that U live in anything but an Oligarchy .. do U?! IF U can deign to reply

again any time soon, them perhaps U can do so after watching this quite revealing video ...

multum in parvo ...

Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

Prof. Jeffrey D. Sachs on Syria ...

Above is a rare moment of truth on TV & thanx for that excellent excerpt from that Seamus Milne article.

Nearly three years old & so predictive of what has happened in Syria. U can see why Seamus is one of

Jeremy Corbyn's closest advisers. Syria is not a ''mistake or misjudgment'', it's a total F/UK/US CRIME!

Note that your other interlocutor here, has failed to respond to the same vid.in reply to his screed below.

veritas vos liberabit ...

Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by grapes (5128) 2 days ago

I know that they can have relationships independent of the U.S. and that's fine. I object to Russia's not living up to its promise to keep Syria from using chemical weapons. I remembered that the U.S. Congress had already voted for attacking Syria for violating the international prohibition of using chemical weapons. Russia intervened on behalf of Syria so droopy geoduck refrained from spurting Syria. Russia not controlling Assad so that he does not use chemical weapons means that the spurting-Syria order from the U.S. Congress takes effect. It's perfectly logical. The U.N. has been dysfunctional in resolving the Syrian conflicts so it makes sense that the U.S. steps up to impose some humanity even in warfare. We didn't come to banning chemical weapons easily. We learnt how debilitating chemical weapon attacks could be even years after they had happened. The survivors suffered greatly long thereafter.

Russia also flew aircraft into neighboring countries with their transponders switched off. That's both illegal and dangerous to civilian aviation. For these reasons, Russia needs to be put into an isolated and fully padded room to calm down.

"Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., geoduck spent the day playing Gulf.Worse than Cancer" The U.S. and Saudi Arabia's blood-and-oil special relationship went back a long way to the FDR days. Stabilized oil prices underpinned the prosperity of the postwar World for the U.S., Germany, Japan, and now China, too.

The 1970's had the two terrible oil shocks when Saudi Arabia and Iran (though not Arab) led the Arab Oil Embargo due to the U.S. backing of Israel and Ayatollah Khomeini replaced the Shah of Iran with Shia Islamic rule. My family ate the shit! I didn't know better then, "What's the Big Deal about having no gasoline and/or long lines of cars at the gas stations? New York City has an extensive subway system. It runs on electricity."

Saudi Arabia is the most important ally of the U.S. in the Middle East.

Thread: ... By Any Other Name...
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2053) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

I never understood in history class how the definition of "civilization" came to be

Civilization means ruled by [written or codified] law. Civilized people are obedient to the law, even when it works to their disadvantage relative to a [parasitic] ruling elite class.

Merriam Webster Definition of civil

... skip to third definition

3 a : of, relating to, or based on civil law b : relating to private rights and to remedies sought by action or suit distinct from criminal proceedings c : established by law

Thread: ... By Any Other Name...
[-] 1 points by grapes (5128) 2 days ago

Yeah, any civilization must be civil in order to be called a civilization. People in a civilization live together peacefully.

Thread: What Does Organize - Unite - Resist mean to me
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22858) 2 days ago

Austerity kills.

https://www.salon.com/2015/08/09/austerity_kills_the_sad_sick_truth_about_right_wing_economics_body_count/

“Today many people face the stark reality of severe financial pressures – be it through employment worries, benefit cuts, increased cost of living, or a lethal combination of all three.”

"If austerity were tested like a medication in a clinical trial, it would have been stopped long ago, given its deadly side effects.... One need not be an economic ideologue – we certainly aren’t – to recognize that the price of austerity can be calculated in human lives."

And, "How Austerity Kills":

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/opinion/how-austerity-kills.html

"The correlation between unemployment and suicide has been observed since the 19th century. People looking for work are about twice as likely to end their lives as those who have jobs."

"Countries that slashed health and social protection budgets, like Greece, Italy and Spain, have seen starkly worse health outcomes than nations like Germany, Iceland and Sweden, which maintained their social safety nets and opted for stimulus over austerity."

In the "United States. Initially, the 2009 stimulus package shored up the safety net. But there are warning signs — beyond the higher suicide rate — that health trends are worsening. Prescriptions for antidepressants have soared. Three-quarters of a million people (particularly out-of-work young men) have turned to binge drinking. Over five million Americans lost access to health care in the recession because they lost their jobs (and either could not afford to extend their insurance under the Cobra law or exhausted their eligibility). Preventive medical visits dropped as people delayed medical care and ended up in emergency rooms."

Austerity needs to end all over the world. It's a scourge on humanity, especially since those who dole it out to others do not live under it themselves.

Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22858) 2 days ago

"How the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq"

by Seamus Milne, The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq

"The sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the western states that incubated it in the first place"

Hmmmm. "On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting."

"US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus."

Thread: ... By Any Other Name...
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22858) 2 days ago

The Neolithic Revolution. Supposedly when humans became "civilized."

In my opinion, I don't care how smart a group of people is, how much art they can produce, what beautiful writings they create and what the architecture is like. If your society is so unequal that people are suffering then you are barbaric. I never understood in history class how the definition of "civilization" came to be. The hunter gatherers were far more civilized in many ways and we have a lot to learn from indigenous societies, I think.

Thread: No War, Not Now, Not Ever
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22858) 2 days ago

Why is it so hard to imagine that other countries have relationships with other countries that have nothing to do with America?

Russia and Syria have a long standing friendship/alliance. And, China, well, they're the longest running continuous civilization on earth so they can basically be friends with who they want, also, without getting permission from the U.S.

Thread: Neo-Feudalism
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22858) 2 days ago

Curing disease bad for profit says Goldman Sachs.

"In a recent report for its biotech clients, investment bank Goldman Sachs frowned on a new type of genome therapy that could permanently cure disease."

“Is curing patients a sustainable business model?”

"The Goldman Sachs report should serve as a cautionary reminder to Americans that capitalism does not have humanity’s best interests at heart, and capitalists will shy away from curing millions of people if it means they’ll make less money."

Well, I never. Capitalists being capitalist pigs. The shock of it.

Articles like that are why we need to get rid of this economic system we find ourselves in. It doesn't say anywhere in the U.S. Constitution that we have to have a capitalist system. It does say that the government's job is to protect the General Welfare of the people. I'd say making profit off of our health goes against that clause.

"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" for some? or for all of us? I know I work, pay for health insurance and then pay more for deductibles, coinsurance, stuff that isn't covered etc. You could go broke getting treated for just a basic injury in America. And, honestly, it really affects my pursuit of happiness.

We need single payer, not-for-profit, universal healthcare!

P.S. Goldman Sachs are a bunch of psychopathic greedy grubbers.

https://gritpost.com/goldman-sachs-illness-business/

Bernie would have beaten Trump, all the polls said so.

Except you status quo loving "liberals" just wouldn't have it. Gosh no. No healthcare for all, no free education, no living wage because people like you only care about yourselves.

You don't care at all about those rotting away in the prison industrial complex for minor crimes and misdemeanors or those living on food stamps who work full time, those without healthcare, students mired in debt. You look only at your own situation and care only for that. You cheer for the military industrial complex and ongoing inequality because it benefits YOU.

Get some guts and stand up for something beyond yourself or just go away already.

Thread: Neo-Feudalism
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2053) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

ex nihilo nihil fit

Economic Wisdom?

I don't subscribe to the conventional economic wisdom. Since humanity devolved from the egalitarian community based economy of hunting and gathering, our economy has become increasingly diseased by an elite class of parasites. They are today, more than ever, threatening the life of the host economy and the human race with their stupidity and greed.

The ever more harmful concentration of [real] wealth created by the workers in the community in the hands of the ruling elite parasites is the result of the perpetual motion of money that is as impossible to sustain as a thermodynamic machine that creates energy from nothingness. As long as the few, who benefit from the work of the many, take without giving anything but words [usually threats and extortionist demands] in return and property rights are more important than human rights, we will continue to deteriorate towards ultimate extinction.

Thread: "Climate Change Is Happening Now – A Carbon Price Must Follow", by James Hansen.
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 days ago

It's trade, not the deficit that fucks us first.

That is part of what I was referring to as the insanity of PBS's little segment. USA manufactured goods sitting on shelves creates a manufacturing glut = Employee lay-offs and no new hiring and business's moving off-shore (out of country).

Thread: "Climate Change Is Happening Now – A Carbon Price Must Follow", by James Hansen.
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2053) from Fredericksburg, TX 3 days ago

ex nihilo nihil fit

I don't subscribe to the conventional economic wisdom. Since humanity devolved from the egalitarian community based economy of hunting and gathering, our economy has become increasingly diseased by an elite class of parasites. They are today, more than ever, threatening the life of the host economy and the human race with their stupidity and greed.

The ever more harmful concentration of [real] wealth created by the workers in the community in the hands of the ruling elite parasites is the result of the perpetual motion of money that is as impossible to sustain as a thermodynamic machine that creates energy from nothingness. As long as the few, who benefit from the work of the many, take without giving anything but words [usually threats and extortionist demands] in return and property rights are more important than human rights, we will continue to deteriorate towards ultimate extinction.

Trade deficit hits us earlier than our national budget deficit because of the potential job losses in the trade deficit case and the U.S. supreme military power in the budget deficit case.

In economic boom years, running trade deficits often happen due to the greater demand than can be satisfied domestically, sucking in foreign products in addition to the domestic products. It can be good or bad. It's good to satisfy the need. It's bad if the demand was produced by a fiscal stimulus intended to revive the domestic economy. Understand everything in context. Allow nothing in excess and everything in moderation. Wisdom is to discern where the boundary is.

The U.S. military supremacy supports the Carter Doctrine protecting the oilfields of the Middle East. Our military alliance with Saudi Arabia requiring the U.S. dollar for purchasing its oil gives instantaneous value to any newly printed U.S. dollar. Last I checked, the U.S. still leads every other country in military spending by extremely wide margins (the U.S. spends 30-40% and the remaining around 200 countries of the World 70-60% of the total world military expenditure) and presumably it contributes to the military supremacy. Yeah, the U.S. dollar is rather secure as the world reserve currency unless Saudi Arabia defects or is conquered. There is so much U.S. dollars in the World already that even our national budget deficit pales in comparison, just a drop in the bucket. To a first approximation, our budget deficit doesn't matter. However, Saudi Arabia must eventually run out of oil. Its hostile neighbors may overrun it. Both can end the petrodollar. The U.S. does have vital interests at stake in the tumultuous and murderous Middle East. It's foolhardy to attack the oilfields associated with the U.S. Did the Russians read the Carter Doctrine? Apparently not.

Rescinding debts requires a military force strong enough to back it up. Rescinding unpayable debts was what had led to the major wars in the last century. There's NO supreme world government enforcing global bankruptcy laws. Donald Trump can declare bankruptcies many times in business and got away with them because he lives in the U.S.A. under the protection of the U.S. Military. Adolf Hitler rescinding war debts helped triggered World War II. In principle, the U.S. should have no problem at all paying its U.S.-dollar-denominated debts because it can just print however much is owed to pay them. In practice, there's a problem with the U.S. Congress balking at raising the debt ceiling because the U.S. had been hoodwinked to use a privately owned currency due to the revenue compromise made for passing the Prohibition. The Prohibition ended but the national-bank-owned currency drawing interest lives on. These banks collect a percentage of the U.S. currency borrowed by the U.S.

Hence, the U.S. military supremacy underpins the servicing of both the trade deficit and the budget deficit. This is why I support the U.S. Military. The smooth functioning of the U.S. economy (and much of the global economy, too) depends on it.

Thread: Insurance Scam
[-] 1 points by grapes (5128) 4 days ago

Insurance costs have shot up. The agent said that they were mainly due to the houses and cars having been flooded and damaged by "the Triple Crown" won by the U.S. in hurricanes. Toilet-sponge-scotch-whiskey says: "hurricanes are NATURAL disasters (definitely Jammed Commie sounding)." "I send you-all my electrifying thoughts and prayers. Revive thyself, Puerto Rico! Viva Maria! Viva Maria!"

Hello, Houston? Is Captain Nemo there with you? "Soggy Tacos suck. No, it's NOT a spaceship; it's a Poseidon Adventure."

Thread: "Climate Change Is Happening Now – A Carbon Price Must Follow", by James Hansen.
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2053) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 days ago

that point of view is just insane! Is it Not?

It's trade, not the deficit that fucks us first. With a deficit they have our increasingly worthless money but we have the real goods. We can abrogate the debt at any time. However our brain dead politicians and population will honor debt, though we [who are about to die] starve to death. Given that reality I agree that trade, which exports goods raising domestic prices, and the deficit are insane.

Thread: "Climate Change Is Happening Now – A Carbon Price Must Follow", by James Hansen.
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33475) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 days ago

Scary Shit = The PBS News Hour on 4/19/2018 - said that the trade deficit is good for the USA and that includes foreign countries like CHINA owning our debt! http://www.pbs.org/video/the-argument-for-a-u-s-trade-deficit-with-china-1524181803/

Now call me stupid - but that point of view is just insane! Is it Not?

Thread: Insurance Scam
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2053) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 days ago

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