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Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by windyacres (1196) 2 hours ago

I agree it's not ideal to depend on journalists, but we not only need journalists, we need lawyers! Push back needed immediately without violence.

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (32920) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 hours ago

the american people have been asleep for much too long. no real change has ever occurred in this country without serious disruption. i am thinking (hoping?) that we will see that type of disruption and more.

You may get your wish!

Things were bad - and people finally started to protest.

Now we have Drumpf in office and he seems dead set on making things horrific. Look at his appointments and you can plainly see where every important public protection is gonna be destroyed - if he can get away with it.

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by grapes (4672) 14 hours ago


I see cowpie(s) in the sky for all. Do you see what I see? Texass!

Eros uses no gold in his arrows but the New White Geez Louise does.

Thread: The Glorious Free Market Capitalization
[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1578) from Fredericksburg, TX 15 hours ago

Hope for the enlightenment of politicians and their rich handlers on one hand and shit in the other. A better plan is to use shitty hands to build a subsistence farm to get you and yours thru the coming dark age.

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by grapes (4672) 15 hours ago

Send the oligarchs pictures of their family members accompanied by a rose( because the rose had been dedicated to Eros ) or a Valentine card with this. The bloody rose at 3:08 has silver thorn for a reason, from a type of arrows of Eros. The 82nd Airborne drinking a beer en route to Beethoven's 5th Symposium on Fate can deliver the message as recorded on the globalized helpline. 82nd and 5th is where the exquisite bronze statue of the sleeping Eros lies in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, New York. Downstream through the synchronized(rendered so-so by security jam) traffic lights is the New White Geez Louise. Godspeed. Taxi!

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 16 hours ago

ok beauty, you know i think you are great but lets look at the possibilities here. the american people have been asleep for much too long. no real change has ever occurred in this country without serious disruption. i am thinking (hoping?) that we will see that type of disruption and more. i know too many people who have never talked about politics before and now they are paying attention. now they are thinking of going to washington in january.

as i said before the indians will not back down this time - the vets are standing with them. if the rest of us fall in line - send money - our bodies or just letters trump will have a country that is ungovernable. doesn't matter who is in his cabinet if we fight back. ok well you get my point - i think we have an opportunity here that we would not have had if hillary was elected. as howard zinn said -"it doesn't matter who is sitting in the white house - it matters who is sitting in outside the white house."

lastly i think you got it wrong about jfk but that is for another day - he was a hard line type and was not going to change the country like some think. read chomsky on that subject

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 17 hours ago

if you are right and we need the journalists then i think we are in real trouble. maybe the indians and the vets will start the whole thing off like standing rock. that was awesome no? probably not done yet but still the best thing i have seen since occupy

Thread: The Glorious Free Market Capitalization
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22654) 1 day ago

Re: Donald Trump and his cabinet of oligarchs. I keep thinking of the movie Carrie when she plunges her hand out of the ground and of Voldemort and how Harry finally takes him down, but it ain't easy.

Maybe this really is the last gasp of neoliberalism in all it's glory as it falls to it's death. But, to suffocate it we're gonna have to be strong and the people are going to have to come together, not to mention those in the Senate and Congress. Will they finally show their humanity and stand up for what is right rather than the almighty dollar? Time will tell.

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22654) 1 day ago

This feels like a coup d'etat that began with the assassination of JFK. An orderly progression toward oligarchy culminating in a Presidential cabinet of billionaires.


How do we free ourselves?

Thread: Latest Polls
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22654) 1 day ago

The push back has to be big. And, we need journalists, real journalists who have some semblance of a reputation left, to speak out. They need to put this country in front of their corporate jobs and not be feared into silence.

Consider Trump's cabinet selections so far & what would Varoufakis have to say about it?

TREASURY: "Trump Picks Foreclosure King Mnuchin for Treasury Secretary"


EPA: "EPA fears 'unprecedented disaster' for environment over Scott Pruitt pick"


EDUCATION: "Betsy DeVos: Secretary Of Privatization"


HUD: Ben Carson, need I say more?

COMMERCE: "Meet Wilbur Ross, who once bailed out Trump in Atlantic City and is now his pick for Commerce secretary"


DEFENSE: "Trump 'surprised' by Mattis waterboarding comments"


LABOR: "Angered at talk of raising the minimum wage, Carl's Jr. CEO (Puzdner) intends on replacing human workers with machines."


TRANSPORTATION: "President-elect Donald Trump's pick to lead the sprawling Transportation Department made $1.2 million while overseeing Wells Fargo as a director during the period the bank has admitted to creating millions of fake accounts."


And, that's not even the whole shameful list. American people who woke up during the primary with Bernie better stay woke and get active.

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

maybe you will have some idea of what nomi prins is saying here - let me know if you need clarification! - "Given his cabinet picks so far, it’s reasonable to assume that The Donald finds hanging out with anyone who isn’t a billionaire (or at least a multimillionaire) a drag. What would there be to talk about if you left the Machiavellian class and its exploits for the company of the sort of normal folk you can rouse at a rally? It’s been a month since the election and here’s what’s clear: crony capitalism, the kind that festers and grows when offered public support in its search for private profits, is the order of the day among Donald Trump’s cabinet picks. Forget his own “conflicts of interest.” Whatever financial, tax, and other policies his administration puts in place, most of his appointees are going to profit like mad from them and, in the end, Trump might not even wind up being the richest member of the crew.

Only a month has passed since November 8th, but it’s already clear (not that it wasn’t before) that Trump’s anti-establishment campaign rhetoric was the biggest scam of his career, one he pulled off perfectly. As president-elect and the country’s next CEO-in-chief, he’s now doing what many presidents have done: doling out power to like-minded friends and associates, loyalists, and — think John F. Kennedy, for instance — possibly family.

Here, however, is a major historical difference: the magnitude of Trump’s cronyism is off the charts, even for Washington. Of course, he’s never been a man known for doing small and humble. So his cabinet, as yet incomplete, is already the richest one ever. Estimates of how loaded it will be are almost meaningless at this point, given that we don’t even know Trump’s true wealth (and will likely never see his tax returns). Still, with more billionaires at the doorstep, estimates of the wealth of his new cabinet members and of the president-elect range from my own guesstimate of about $12 billion up to $35 billion. Though the process is as yet incomplete, this already reflects at least a quadrupling of the wealth represented by Barack Obama’s cabinet.

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

many here have no idea what grapes is saying and he likes it that way. you on the other hand are very clear in what you say - that is good. the problem is that what you say is largely incorrect. knock off the ivory tower shit. mostly working people here - if you are trying to cause trouble through disinformation keep it up. if you want a real dialogue then shape up working boy - so far you do not get to claim to speak for the working man. more honesty is required for that

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

it saved very few jobs and cost how much brenty? how much?? anybody can give corporations money to stay - that has been going on forever no?? your boy said he would tax them and punish them not pay them - am i wrong about that? lastly you know nothing about me or it seems ows. yea that little boy facts are fun is a dem but not ows. time to get a grip - no problem if you want to support trump but let's try to be honest. so far you seem to have trouble in that department - are you misinformed or deliberately twisting the facts?

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by grapes (4672) 1 day ago

Nonsense doesn't actually exist but ignorance does(e.g., I didn't even understand my Mom, having been with her virtually every day for decades!). The most efficient communication patterns appear to be just random noise. 》Muß es sein? Es muß sein! Die Essenz der Kommunikation ist der Zufall.《

If astronomers spot an earth-like planet suitable for life emitting a powerful radiowave spectrum of what appears to be random noise, they have probably found an intelligent and technologically advanced lifeform. Are we alone in the Universe? If such discovery has been made, we are Not alone anymore!

We're getting Trump, I believe. Hard working people (who enjoy "clean coal" and "gourmet poo") will say, "We gave ourselves Trump and we lost again, even worse than Bush and Clinton." Trump's "good" intentions are not good enough if he appoints foxes to guard the chicken coops. When has a leopard ever lost its spots? Have you figured out how hard working people had been screwed over by Obama's administration yet? How did that come to pass with a self-proclaimed Progressive in charge?

Trump couldn't even figure out how and why crude oil prices jumped up or down nearly instantaneously at the mere rumors of OPEC's intentions and pronouncements. He lived through superstorm Sandy. I guess Manhattanites of lesser intelligence will finally "get it" when the original Fulton Fish Market(why were there no takers of the downtown property for so long although it supposedly had "increased value"?), the True and ancient stock exchange of New York, hangs out the sign that says: "Catch your own. Live. Free."

New York, New York has and has had not-so-urbane combat zones where even the police fear for their own lives to tread into - there may even be criminals' "tanks." It has Other types of "zones," of course.

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (32920) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 day ago

I suppose you are overjoyed that fossil fuel has been given the control of the EPA.

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by BrentWeirick81 (112) 1 day ago

I have no idea what you are saying. This is the problem, we are hard working people and you are in your ivory tower. It's like listening to that Van Jones guy on CNN. Just a bunch of nonsense.

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 0 points by BrentWeirick81 (112) 1 day ago

The Carrier deal saved jobs. Yep, all for it.

You are the Democratic establishment and you don't represent the working people. You just pander to interest groups.

Thread: Economic Extortion Right v Austerity Left
[-] 1 points by grapes (4672) 2 days ago

Carter was a political eunuch. Clinton was an insatiable schlong. Obama was a pee-nut, not from Georgia, and Trump'll be a yuuge orange carrot( 》nicht weich sondern kalt《 ). Squirm across the bed to accommodate him, if he gets in. His tax cuts'll be targeted to the rich, do next to nothing for the rest, and give more shoves later to satisfy austerity. Wrong target'll ruin everything (even with my beloved Mom's great intention to protect me).

Trump's intention is blatantly obvious because he's proposing cutting inheritance taxes. According to Alexis de Tocqueville, who foresaw the rise to greatness of the U.S.A. centuries ago, NON-primogeniture inheritance would be a driving force. Rather than one gigantic fat cell gobbling up all gains of growth, there would be many little ones all sharing the gains and hungering for more. The drive was vastly more powerful in the latter case contributing to increased growth rate over centuries, the eighth wonder of the world due to compounding. Britain was destined to be left behind economically by the U.S. because of its tradition of primogeniture inheritance, akin to sexual reproduction's vastly dominating over asexual reproduction in the Animal Kingdom. Trump's on course to be the bait-and-switcher, fattening up clusters of fat cells here and there, most of all his own.

》Der After 《 will cum: it's written, "My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him. I arose to open for my lover, and my hands dripped with myrrh, my fingers with flowing myrrh, on the handles of the lock. I opened for my lover, but my lover had left; he was gone." - Song of Songs(. . . - - - . . .) 5:4-6.

Thread: Economic Extortion Right v Austerity Left
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 days ago

if he did not intend the bait and switch he is dumber than i thought. it was pretty clear from his fund raising who was going to be taken care of. his cabinet made it even more clear - no?

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 days ago

well that is a low bar but still not clear who this billionaire will help. i noticed you skipped over commenting on the carrier pay off. and who represents wall street here at ows?? were you at the park with the other workers when it was time to defend it? doubtful - no need to sling mud especially since you are aiming at the wrong target. we are not those in ivory towers or finance. now answer the question like a big boy in a bar with the other workers - do you like the carrier deal? as i said i hope you are right but doubt it

Thread: Economic Extortion Right v Austerity Left
[-] 1 points by schmoot (72) from Kerrville, TX 2 days ago

Carter and Clinton sold themselves as fiscal conservatives. Obama sold himself as genuinely progressive. I don't think he intended to bait and switch but, as I've heard, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Thread: Curing Parasitic Diseases
[-] 2 points by grapes (4672) 2 days ago

He hasn't forcefully disavowed of his inspiration to the mishmashed-colored (a.k.a. white = all colors present [only truly black people are non-colored as black = all colors absent, according to the science of optics]) people in the majority.

The following is an excerpt from the definition of rape by Lorelili:

"Other times, men feel threatened by women and their rising status and want women back where they were, so they attack women, wanting to hurt them, embarrass them, and frighten them. This case is especially true in places where traditional gender roles are rigid and where the "ideal" male is aggressive, unfeeling, and strong."

Substitute white majority for "men/male", non-white minority for "women", and racial for gender above and you get an excellent description of what he represents to our people, an inspirer of rapists.

We definitely need MOAR southern walls where traditional racial roles are rigid. Our non-white minority is being raped. We get rapists from Amerika. We have already had a serial bully rapist as our President. Damn that infamous and famous blue dress.

Thread: Economic Extortion Right v Austerity Left
[-] 3 points by agkaiser (1578) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

"If you see me comin', better step aside A lotta men didn't, a lotta men died One fist of iron, the other of steel If the right one don't a-get you then the left one will"

from "16 Tons" by Merle Travis, 1946