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Forum Post: ‘Get ready to fight Iran,’ Washington Post warns in URL

Posted 1 year ago on Aug. 19, 2012, 2:46 p.m. EST by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY
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http://mondoweiss.net/2012/08/get-ready-to-fight-iran-washington-post-warns-in-url.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/get-ready-to-fight-iran/2012/08/17/1abe88c6-e7f8-11e1-8487-64e4b2a79ba8_story.html

‘Get ready to fight Iran,’ Washington Post warns in URL by Philip Weiss on August 19, 2012 11 0Facebook1Twitter0StumbleUpon0Reddit0 Google

Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren, outside the King David hotel

The Washington Post URL (the internet address for the piece) gives this piece away: "Get ready to fight Iran." I wonder if that is a subversive act by a Washington Post editor. When the actual headline of the story is, "5 steps Obama can take to avert a strike on Iran."

The piece is by Amos Yadlin, the head of Israel's Institute for National Security Studies. Listen to him lecturing the President about US interests in the pages of the Washington Post! Obama must come to the Knesset! Notice him counseling belligerence and propaganda!

Only by framing a nuclear-armed Iran as an impermissible threat to the national interests of the United States and its allies in the Persian Gulf can President Obama bridge this gap between Israeli creed and need. He must convince Israel, Iran, Russia and even Saudi Arabia that the U.S. military option is credible and effective.

A gesture directly from Obama could do it. The U.S. president should visit Israel and tell its leadership — and, more important, its people — that preventing a nuclear Iran is a U.S. interest, and if we have to resort to military action, we will. This message, delivered by the president of the United States to the Israeli Knesset, would be far more effective than U.S. officials’ attempts to convey the same sentiment behind closed doors....

First, Obama should notify the U.S. Congress in writing that he reserves the right to use military force to prevent Iran’s acquisition of a military nuclear capability. This would show the president’s resolve, and congressional support for such a measure is likely to be strong...

Second, Washington should signal its intentions via a heightened U.S. military presence in the gulf, military exercises with Middle East allies and missile defense deployment in the region. Media coverage of these actions should be encouraged.

PS: Yadlin's institute is where Hirsh Goodman works. Goodman is the husband of NYT correspondent Isabel Kershner)

More warmongering from the rightwing site, Israel National News, reporting on a story in the Sheldon Adelson newspaper. Again: this paper is owned by the man who is giving all that money to Romney. Is that a story? What is happening to the American agenda?

President Barack Obama, Congress and the American people would support Israel if it carried out a pre-emptive attack on Iran, Michael Oren, Israeli Ambassador to the United States, told Yisrael HaYom Sunday.

He told the Hebrew-language newspaper that he does not feel there is any pressure on Israel from the U.S. government not to act against Iran, which last week loudly proclaimed it wants to eliminate the State of Israel.

..."The Americans have listened to the Iranian leaders who want to destroy Israel," Oren said in an interview with the newspaper during a short stay in Israel. "It is clear that the Americans are asking themselves, 'What would we do if were in their place?'"

Oren is convinced that "if Israel decides to act against Iran, we will win wide support among the American people" and that the Obama administration "will continue to recognize our right to defend ourselves." He added that an Israeli attack would not ruin American-Israeli relations.

Note that Abe Foxman agrees. He says that the duty of the New York Times is to put itself in Israel's shoes.

Israel is our ally, with existential dangers facing it if Iran should gain a weapon. Putting oneself in Israel’s place should be the first order of business in trying to understand and comment on the situation. Unfortunately, this perspective was completely absent from your editorial.

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[-] 3 points by Truth4Life (43) 1 year ago

"Preemptive attack" on Iran? Preemptive is the same criminal excuse used by the Nazis to attack Poland and Czechoslovakia. Iran has made no threat against the USA and what happens there is of no concern to us. Get the hell of that region, disarm Israel, and we will have peace.

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I agree.

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[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

Obama and Romney agree on Iran. Military option is a possibility

President Obama stated on January 24, 2012, "Let there be no doubt: America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal."

Mitt Romney - U.S. policy toward Iran must begin with an understanding on Iran’s part that a military option to deal with their nuclear program remains on the table.

HR 4310 prepares for war with Iran - NDAA of 2013 - "(b) Declaration of Policy- It shall be the policy of the United States to take all necessary measures, including military action if required, to prevent Iran from threatening the United States, its allies, or Iran's neighbors with a nuclear weapon."

Section 1221: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c112:1:./temp/~c112d0yc3G:e737116:

Section 1222: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c112:1:./temp/~c112d0yc3G:e739917:

[-] 2 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Hard line neocons and people like Adelson don't trust Obama on Israel or Iran. They fear that in his second term when he doesn't have to worry about re election he will come to an accommodation with iran and rein in the right wing of Israel. They feel that even now he is foot dragging and doesn't have his heart in the project.

http://tinyurl.com/9g64n78

I can't read Obama's mind but I know that the Israelis have humiliated him and I am guessing the street smart guy from Chicago doesn't easily forgive and forget that kind of shit. At any rate that's what Netanyahu suspects. He doesn't want to experience what that could mean.

http://tinyurl.com/8lt8q58

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

"US-Israeli deal on Iran ? No Israeli strike now if Obama pledged a spring attack" :

This makes for very sobering reading & am linking this article in corroboration of your 'forum-post' .

pax nunc ...

[-] 2 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

I was listening to some experts on Public Radio last night. http://onpoint.wbur.org/2012/08/20/israel-iran

Guests

David Rothkopf, president and CEO of Garten Rothkopf, an international advisory firm. His latest column in Foreign Policy is “The Drums of August: Israel is not bluffing.”

R. Nicholas Burns, professor of the Practice of Diplomacy and International Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School and former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs and ambassador to NATO for the U.S. Foreign Service.

Roger Cohen, columnist for The New York Times and International Herald Tribune. His latest column in The New York Times is headlined: “Israel’s Iran Itch.”

The gist seems to be that israhell doesn't have the military capability to "take out" Iran's "nuclear capacity". They might start something and expect the US to jump in once Iran retaliates.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/netanyahu-is-preparing-israeli-public-opinion-for-a-war-on-iran-1.418869

Scary stuff that could put all this discussion we are having about elections onto the very back burner. We should be getting ready to protest or even be starting now.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Alas and so the drumbeat starts to pick up pace once again ! Deja vu ?!! Fkn Frightening SH!T !!!

pax, nunc et semper - et oremus ...

[-] 1 points by ExposeTheOligarchs (37) 1 year ago

Thanks for this very important update Shadz. I was fully expecting it to happen this fall. I'm hoping that its a stalling tactic, but you never know. Unreal!!

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Sadly, you may be right yet, 'ETO' :

cave - bellum se ipsum alet ...

[-] 2 points by ExposeTheOligarchs (37) 1 year ago

Lets hope this is just sabre-rattling. Flexing. Netanyahu's positioning for negotiations to align with the never-ending US allegiance for Israel and monetary goodies. There's hope yet.

The oligarchs are so f#cking wacked, it wouldn't surprise me if Netanyahu and Ahmadinejad golf together on weekends.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Just imagine if they would all do their negotiating whilst passing round a bong !!! Thanx for helping to make this rather portentous subject and thread a little bit lighter and bearable & keep 'E'ingTOs' ;-)

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Two words 'ETO' : "Fkn Frightening" !!

fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by ExposeTheOligarchs (37) 1 year ago

Yep! Its like EVERYTHING is on tenter hooks. I can feel it....like everything is electricly charged. I guess we can choose to see it as a million points of illumination too. Lets balance this out a little...

Tin Hat Trio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6u2vqGO6_o&feature=related

Van Morrison for immediate perspective (he may just be my all time favourite)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQh19AbHE3Y

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Verrry Niiice !!! Van 'The Man' I know & have seen live but 'THT' - nope ; 'THC' - yep !!

<Ahem> Now, I feel the need ; the need for .... ! Thanx for the 'inspiration' - geddit ?

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 2 points by ExposeTheOligarchs (37) 1 year ago

Hahaha, goddit!!

Yep! Van Morrison...seen him live too, X2! Once in Toronto and once in Prince Edward Island. Good times!

Mmmmm....inspiration sounds good! My husband gets medical marijuana for his MS. I make tea out of it and add my favourite tea flavours. Sometimes its lemon...sometimes its hazelnut, or mint, or herbal. I think I'm in the mood for some 'cinnamon THC tea'! Its 1:30am...about to 'Stone My Soul' !! Later.... L.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Avec un peu "cinnamon" ? Niiice ! Here's hoping that you & your loved ones can always stay on the ...

pax, amor et lux L ...

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

"Why the World Can't Tolerate a Preemptive Israeli Attack on Iran", by L. Michael Hager :

"Under the UN Charter, neither Israel nor the US would have a legal right to preemptively launch a military attack on Iran. Do we want a world in which leaders are free to launch military attacks on other countries simply on an assumption of hostile intent and military capacity ?"

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Re. IRAN : Some hard facts may bring some 'Light' to matters, rather than all the unpleasant 'Heat' being generated by the constant war-mongering & fear and loathing :

(1) Iran has The Words 2nd Largest Liquid & 3rd Largest known 'Total' Oil Reserves : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Iran ;

(2) Iran has The Worlds 2nd Largest known Gas Reserves : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_reserves_in_Iran ;

(3) Further consider and cogitate upon the fact that in Feb. '08, Iran opened a Hydro-Carbon Bourse at The Kish Mercantile Exchange (see http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11613.htm and also http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28646.htm ) - trading in a basket of currencies, including Euros, Roubles, Yuan and Iranian Rial BUT NOT in U$ Dollar$ and thereby challenging both Reserve Currency, Dollar "HegeMoney" as well as the Monopoly of the existing Oil and Petroleum Bourses ;

(4) The 'State Controlled' and "Entirely Government Owned" Iranian Central Bank {NOT Privately Owned) [ http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2011/12/15/senate-passes-sanctions-on-irans-central-bank/?mod=google_news_blog & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran ] ;

(5) The possible future proceeds of The Extremely Lucrative post-WAR Oil and Reconstruction Contracts that could follow any WAR and installation of any client / more pliant Iranian regime ;

(6) The same NeoCon, Neo-Colonial, Paleo-Imperial WARMONGERS who beat the drums for The Unconscionable, Illegal & Immoral WAR on Iraq (where The Only "WMD" = Words of Mass Deception !!) are now beating the Drums of War and this time Iran is in the Imperial crosshairs. Pls. Research PNAC (eg http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1665.htm & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC etc.).

Where There Is (even the prospect of) WAR anywhere ; The Parasitic Banksters Are Never Far Away !

Your link above didn't really lead me anywhere I'm afraid, so you may wish to reconsider it please :-)

Consider - are the real reasons for War On Iran more to do with the above than yet more "W.M.D." - Words of Mass Deception ?!!!

fiat lux ; fiat pax ; fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Hard line neocons and people like Adelson don't trust Obama on Israel or Iran. They fear that in his second term when he doesn't have to worry about re election he will come to an accommodation with iran and rein in the right wing of Israel. They feel that even now he is foot dragging and doesn't have his heart in the project. http://tinyurl.com/9g64n78 I can't read Obama's mind but I know that the Israelis have humiliated him and I am guessing the street smart guy from Chicago doesn't easily forgive and forget that kind of shit. At any rate that's what Netanyahu suspects. He doesn't want to experience what that could mean. http://tinyurl.com/8lt8q58

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Most of what you say is unpalatable to most Americans and waaay above any MSM coverage that they may have seen. I appreciate your reply, '54-40'. You are alluding to, implying and saying much. Further :

One doesn't wish to alarm people overly but I really think that very few of us realise just how very close to 'Totally Fkn Crazy' thngs are right now, sigh.

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

You are correct. I appreciate that you and I see things pretty much the same at least on this front. I'm just about out of "friends" on this forum, but I'd rather say what I think is true even if I'm a minority of one.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

'Truth Trumps Friendships' on this forum & consider - if "friends" can't take the truth, then WTF kind of "friends" are they anyway ?!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

absolutely

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Good & also 'fyi' :

Please also see the appended articles above and the video below.

fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

thanks i will make time for this soon

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[-] 1 points by shadz66 (18001) 1 year ago

Thank you for your kind, humbling and encouraging words & also 'fyi' :

Alors, prend soin de toi aussi et salut.

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

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[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20447) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

umguanakikbuti

no you aren't

you aren't going to kik but

you couldn't even find your way out of a paper bag armed with a flashlight and pair of scissors . . .

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (20447) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Good catch. But I wonder if the purpose is perhaps designed to stir up leftist opposition to the President rather than to shape the opinion of its general readership. The Washington Post slant, as I understand it, I haven't followed them closely enough to speak with authority - is to lean to the right. Sometimes that's a hard lean.

If the President happens to take the advice provided by the article - then there is the hook in the URL.

Probably indicating that the best guess of the editorial staff is that he isn't going to Israel before the election - and that's probably a good guess.

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

The article speaks of advice - instruction actually- being given to Obama by Israel and it's fifth column. I think it's designed among other things to fire up Obama's left flank against Romney/Adelson/Israel.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20447) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I didn't get that. I figured since he isn't likely to have time to get to Israel before the election most of the content becomes a wish list of sorts.

Daily readers aren't likely to spot the url - they are looking for the comfort of their routine. Reassurance that everything in the world is where they left it.

Lefties, on the other hand, are apt to approach the magazine with a bit of healthy skepticism, which increased the probability they will spot the url.

I don't think there is any question based on the content that the url wasn't designed with any digital file system in mind - but rather the audience was the consideration.

[-] 1 points by fiftyfourforty (1077) from New York, NY 1 year ago

Obama certainly is not going to travel to israhell before the election. The "advice" or "instruction" then had to be conveyed via the Washington Post and Abe Foxman.