Forum Post: Attention!Attention Please!
Posted 11 years ago on Oct. 14, 2012, 8:09 p.m. EST by Skippy2
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The Professional Political Whores have bought and paid for thier offices with money sucked from Special Intrests. Rep/Dem cabal will run this country no matter who wins. They Dont care about you. Power is their drug of choice. Vote Independant or be enslaved. Thank you fo your attention. Carry on.
Will not vote D or R this time. We must begin to get momentum up for alternative, or it will never happen.
What's this? Logic?
But all the Obama campaign people are saying "Procrastination is the way to go." They say "...vote Obama this time and 4 years from now we can start the revolution and vote outside the corporate funding." And 4 years from now they'll start it all over again.
And the republicans and all the Romney campaign people are doing the same. Just look at the way they treat the libertarian voter.
Everyone knows procrastination is the best way to go. Fuck doing it today. You can do it tomorrow.
LOL. Sorry... I'm getting pretty cynical now.
The biggest problem I have with this strategy is that if Romney wins, it will embolden his party to go through with their austerity plans. But even with that said, I wish you luck, really I do.
Voter revolution has to start somewhere, and because of Obama's appeasement, I am not as confident that he is playing the role of FDR, coming out stronger after compromise was shown not to work, as I once did. Again, good luck.
PS. I just wish you would all come to a consensus as to which third party candidate has your best interests in mind.
Either way with Romney or Obama
The world's largest political prisoner population will continue to grow.
Unlimited resources will be given to Wall Street
Civilians in foreign lands will be killed by drone strikes
Americans will be spied on by the ever growing spy network
The TSA and police state will continue to expand and grope people and say "Papers please"
Protest crack downs and police brutality will ensue
There will not be a minimum wage increase
There will not be monetary reform
There will not be reform of trade agreements that ship US jobs overseas.
And not a single grievance listed by OWS will be addressed
....... and why aren't these important issues for Obama and Romney? Because they are both funded by the 1% and any change in these issues would be beneficial for the 99% and costly to the 1%
But if a third party don't win, because you spent all your time tearing down the duopoly and never came to a consensus as to which third party candidate is the best, then every fact you stated is still on the table. If you spent all your energy supporting a third party candidate, giving pros as to why they should be elected, and not just belittling the 'quo then maybe there would be hope.
I like Jill Stein
I push her name in conversation with everyone I know and even on the internet with people I don't know.
You can tell me I'm not coming to a consensus.... but it's better than coming to a "consensus" on voting for someone who in no way represents me and SUPPORTS the problems I've listed.
Sorry.... I'm done voting for corporate whores. I don't care which corporate whore is worse.... I will not vote for a corporate whore.
I seen her on Democracy Now's Extended Debate episode, she does seem to have a good understanding of domestic policy.
Yes, Jill Stein
Good. I like her too. I may vote for her since NY is solid blue no risk of helping the right wing wackos.
What is her position on Syria. Does it match yours or does it match ours (OWS)?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/oct-20-global-solidarity-day-syrian-people/
In no way should we get in a war in Syria. Another war is one of the dumbest ideas this country could even contemplate.
Then you should make every effort to understand that one party is and always has been the war mongers in the US.
This morning I heard Peter King (R NY) claim "Al Qaeda is a greater danger than before 9/11/2001" (absolutely untrue) He complained that the Obama Admin was not using the term "terrorism" enough because they were in the middle of a coverup. Truth is the dems are trying to ratchet down the rhetoric & war footing repubs crave.
The repubs are so scared that Pres Obama will declare an end to their lucrative endless "war on terror" that they must criticize the dems lack of the right fear mongering buzz words.
It may seem unimportant but I am telling you that changing the tone of our national dialogue, how we discuss attacks against US/US interests matters.
If you want to continue drone bombings, rights violations then you perpetuate the fallacy that Al Qaeda is a greater threat than ever. If you wanna end this destructive war on terror, then you must end the fear mongering.
Protest against the Obama Admins drone bombings, and rights violations, and if you want to truly make a difference vote out the fear mongering, war mongering republicans.
You won't convince me to vote for someone who has murdered children with illegal drone strikes.
You won't convince me to vote for someone who is responsible for a year with the highest civilian death toll in Afghanistan.
You won't convince me to vote for someone who enforces the world's largest political prisoner population.
You won't convince me to vote for someone who plans on bombing any country in 2013.
Trying to convince me to vote for Obama is as dumb as trying to convince me to vote for Romney.
I ain't trying to convince you to vote for anyone.
Have you lost all sense of reality.?
I NEVER tell people to vote for Pres Obama. NEVER. I NEVER tell people how I WILL vote.
I have suggested I may vote Stein, but I do NOT tell people who to vote for in the presidential race, & I never tell people how I will Vote.
Vote however you want. I don't give a fuck.
MY effort with you is to challenge your 1 dimensional attacks with the reality that the republican fear mongering rhetoric is the 1st priority if you truly are against wars, drone bombings, war on terror, & rights violations.
But you are clearly too partisan to appreciate the sophisticated, 3 dimensional realities that we face.
1 dimensional attacks?
How many times do I have to say Bush belongs in prison before you realize how dumb your "challenge" is?
Bush ain't involved any more. That phoney attack ignores the current responsibilities of the repubs who are spewing fear/war mongering to continue the war on terror.
That is the deepness you ignore. I you ain't fighting against the pols who are spewing the fear mongering you ain't really interested in stopping the drone strikes, rights violations or the war on terror.
So now you're telling me I shouldn't blame Bush?
Make up your damn mind.
You disregard all my posts pointing out the warmongering nature of those in the congress.
I've linked them to you many times. Do you want me to share all the links again to show you once again how you are being a moron on this issue? I keep all my posts organized and can link them if you want to see how wrong you are.
just 2 weeks ago I protested Deb Fischer, she's a warmonger running for senate... I posted on that. But go ahead and pretend like that doesn't exist. Keep living in your dream land.
Protesting R Deb Fischer in regards to warmongering policy of HR 4310 - http://occupywallst.org/forum/cold-shoulders-and-lies-from-my-current-senator-an/
non-partisan post calling out the big 4, Romney, Ryan, Obama, and Biden, for not talking about real issues - http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-government-works-for-the-1-this-includes-ryans/
Let them eat bombs! Congress cuts social programs to spend even more money next year on war. - http://occupywallst.org/forum/let-them-eat-bombs-congress-cuts-social-programs/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/warmongers-everywhere-us-would-give-israel-unilate/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/fun-fact-about-romney/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/almost-half-of-philadelphia-voters-might-be-banned/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/romney-was-candidly-overheard-stating-that-if-he-w/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/you-cant-disregard-the-poor-because-you-think-they/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-are-you-in-prison-for-insider-trading/#comment-808205
This one is hilarious - http://occupywallst.org/forum/finally-fox-news-says-something-right/
Calling out Lindsey Graham - http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-world-is-a-battlefield-and-that-includes-the-h/
Once again calling out Lindsey Graham - http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-world-is-a-battlefield-us-to-start-a-world-war/
Calling out Lindsey Graham - http://occupywallst.org/forum/not-enough-angry-white-guys/
Voter ID bullshit in Pennsylvania - http://occupywallst.org/forum/almost-half-of-philadelphia-voters-might-be-banned/
Corporations are people? - http://occupywallst.org/forum/romney-was-candidly-overheard-stating-that-if-he-w/
War is peace, corporations are people, and freedom is doing what the government says - http://occupywallst.org/forum/war-is-peace-corporations-are-people-and-freedom-i/
to those preaching cuts... Austerity is counterproductive - http://occupywallst.org/forum/austerity-is-counterproductive-we-need-growth/
Standing up for medicare - http://occupywallst.org/forum/lets-call-medicare-what-it-really-is/
Talks on poverty - http://occupywallst.org/forum/iraq-has-wmds-and-iran-wants-to-have-wmds/
Repost em.
I disregarded nothing. I should since you can't have a civil conversation.
Do you think you can convince me of your anti dem position by bullying me with insults?
Or do you enjoy putting people down to lift yourself up.?
I ain't done that because my arguments stand on their own merits. They do not need the added weight of offensiveness.
I say replace war mongering conservatives w/ peace loving progressives and you blow up and call me all kinda names.
Keep it up. You are clearly wrong if you can't make your points without the schoolyard bullying of the candidate Romney.
You do not think that some dems are equally whacked also????
Equally wacked?
Of course not. Sounds like you do.
Let's hear it. Who is a dem left wing wacko running for or in office.
Pelosi, Reid, Obama, just to name a few
Not wackos at all in my opinion.
How so?
Go ask the families of the people killed by our government over the last 12 years.
No! I already know their opinions.
I will continue protesting against all war.
And trying to pursuade even you repubs that the root of this current war frenzy is the right wing war mongering, & fear mongering. They have replaced the anti communist fear mongering with this endless war on terror for obvious reasons.
We must end that, This Pres has begun that process.
Your repubs war mongering is almost defeated.
Peace, & Strength against the right wing war mongers.
I love how you claim anyone who is more liberal than you to be a republican.
Thats all you have is a love of war and a shit ton of lies to back it up.
Have fun with your wars. All the facts are in front of you. If you refuse to see them, then thats your choice. Luckily some people are, which will lead to positive results.
I am against war. You continue to lie about what I believe because your position supporting the repub fear mongering, war mongering rhetoric is impossible for you to defend.
The positive results will come only when enough people recognize that your repub have replaced red scare war mongering with war on terror fear mongering.
Then we will replace war mongering conservatives w/ peace loving progressives.
EVERYTHING will change if we protest for the change that benefits the 99%.
And
replace pro 1% conservatives w/ pro 99% progressives.
That is the positive course of action.
Constantly complaining without proposing a course of action is meaningless.
It's like you ain't happy unless your whining about how bad things are. What are you gonna do go crawl in a corner? Rant at the moon.?
Do something positive.
the last in line
I agree with you 100%!
May get served the S##T sandwich. But at least I did not order the S##T sandwich.
I agree. Anyone who votes for the Romney or Obama is just perpetuating, and legitimizing this corrupt system.
i am working on this website, if you feel so compelled, come by and check it out. we are facilitating uses with the resources to get involved and our representation accountable! http://vote-pedia.com
What an Outstanding website!
I especially like that you have a section for human trafficking...a sensitive topic for me, is this blight on humanity.
I also like that you have a section for whistle-blowers and polls.
I just commented on us, 'the people' governing ourselves with social media as a tool...and your website has that feel to it. Bravo!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/romney-obama-and-the-new-culture-war-over-fairness/#comment-857288
Yeah! They're all bastards!!
But, let's just go with Dems cuz the Cons always fuck us up soooo bad.
Doesn't that sound good-er?
http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_voter_registration.html?source=rtv.com-homegraphic
We can not VOTE our way out from serfdom and systemic oppression, the military-corporate rulers only allow the 'illusion' of choice,. not actual choice. How would that serve The Rulers' goals?
Heard a guy the other day say it pretty much comes down to "who will destroy the country the slowest"...
Sad but true.
Closeted Republicans should go away.
i agree, i am Protest Voting! but i am also going to encourage you to get involved past the election. the only way to put Career Politicians in there place is to call them out on all their bullshit and hold them accountable! not 4 years from now, not 2 year or 1 but now! Sign a Petition, Tell a friend whats wrong with -insert your cause here- then, tell another person find some way to get involved! http://vote-pedia.com/
I think I love you people. I will check into Jill Stein. Also post on procrastination was good, your right. Why wait?
Skippy one will always be my Hero.
do what davad & charlie & ron tell you - dont vote
that way we can get more scalias and wars
or just write in david koch