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Forum Post: Russians launched pro-Jill Stein social media blitz to help Trump win election

Posted 4 weeks ago on Dec. 22, 2018, 9:54 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ
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Dec. 22, 2018 / 5:00 AM MST

By Robert Windrem

Two days before the 2016 presidential election, an Instagram account called @woke_blacks posted a message in support of long-shot Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

“The excuse that a lost Black vote for Hillary is a Trump win is bs,” it read. “It could be late, but y’all might want to support Jill Stein instead.”

According to a report commissioned by the Senate, the account was a fake, part of the Russian campaign to sway the 2016 presidential election in favor of Donald Trump.

The report was one of two that leaked this week saying the Russian effort to disrupt the election specifically targeted black voters and harnessed America’s top social media platforms. But the reports contained another finding that was largely overlooked — the Russians also focused on boosting Stein’s candidacy through social media posts like the one from @woke_blacks.

Building support for Stein was one of a “roster of themes” the Moscow-sanctioned internet trolls “turned to repeatedly” in their effort to disrupt the election, according to a research team led by the New Knowledge cybersecurity firm. The researchers also found that the campaign to bolster Stein gained in intensity in the final days of the presidential campaign and largely targeted African-American voters.

The reports, prepared by separate groups of cyber experts, add to the growing body of evidence that the Russians worked to boost the Stein campaign as part of the effort to siphon support away from Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and tilt the election to Trump.

An NBC News analysis found that Russians working under the direction of the Internet Research Agency, the St. Petersburg-based firm run by a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, tweeted the phrase “Jill Stein” over 1,000 times around the time of the election.

The posts were often accompanied by variations of the same hashtag, “Grow a spine and vote Jill Stein.”

“This hasn’t gotten enough attention,” said Andrew Weiss, a Russian expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, referring to Moscow’s efforts to promote Stein.

“The fact that the Russian propaganda apparatus helped create awareness and support for her candidacy and promoted her candidacy is critical to our understanding of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

“The Russians played this extremely adroitly,” Weiss added.

Image: Jill SteinJill Stein speaks at a town hall-style event at YouTube Space LA in 2016.Gabriel Olsen / Getty Images file The Green Party did not respond to multiple requests for comment. NBC News also left messages with two Stein spokespersons, but they went unreturned.

There’s nothing in the reports to suggest that Stein was aware of the influence operation, but the Massachusetts physician has long been criticized for her support of international policies that mirror Russian foreign policy goals.

As a frequent guest on the Russian state-owned English language broadcast and online outlets RT and Sputnik, Stein has also benefited from Moscow’s help during her presidential runs in 2012 and 2016.


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OPINION A Trump-approved government shutdown is a fitting end to Paul Ryan's disappointing, hypocritical tenure An NBC News review of the archives of RT and Sputnik, which the CIA has described as part of “Russia’s state-run propaganda machine,” from early 2015 to the 2016 election shows more than 100 stories, on-air and online, friendly to Stein and the Green Party.

Weiss said Moscow's support for Stein in fact began well before she became a presidential candidate.

“The Russian embrace of fringe voices like Stein goes back more than a decade to the earlier days of RT,” said Weiss.

Weiss also noted that the Stein campaign parroted the Russian position on Ukraine in 2016 and criticized the U.S. for installing a government in Kiev “hostile to Russia.”

In Feb. 2015, Stein announced her decision to form a presidential exploratory committee on the U.S.-based RT program “Redacted Tonight."

In the closing weeks of the campaign, RT quoted Stein suggesting that Hillary Clinton could lead the U.S. into a nuclear war with Russia and saying Trump was a safer choice.

"On the issue of war and nuclear weapons," Stein said, according to RT, "it is actually Hillary's policies which are much scarier than Donald Trump who does not want to go to war with Russia."

Most famously, Stein was one of two Americans invited to sit with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the head table of the RT 10th anniversary dinner in Dec. 2015. The other was General Michael Flynn, who was advising then candidate Donald J. Trump and is now awaiting sentencing in the special counsel’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

The head table of a gala celebrating the tenth anniversary of Russia Today in December of 2015 included Russian President Vladimir Putin, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn and Jill Stein of the U.S. Green Party.Mikhail Klimentyev / Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP file Also at the table: Putin’s chief of staff, a former KGB general who had been sanctioned by the Obama administration for his role in 2014 annexation of Crimea and a deputy chief of staff who U.S. intelligence referred to as Putin's head propagandist.

Stein, in explaining why she traveled to Moscow for the event, has said she had hoped to speak with the Russian president about his policy in Syria, climate change and other issues. The Russian president declined the opportunity, Stein admitted. Stein has repeatedly said she did not accept any Russian support for her trip.

Clint Watts, an NBC News analyst who has been tracking Russian election interference at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, says none of what’s in the reports prepared for the Senate Intelligence Committee should be seen as surprising.

“Is Stein a fellow traveler or a useful idiot?” Watts asked rhetorically. “I don’t know, but even after the election she played into Russia disinformation by pursuing a recount so heavily and claiming election fraud. This was a post-election coup for Kremlin propagandists.”

Robert Windrem Robert Windrem is an investigative reporter/producer with NBC News, specializing in international security.

Ben Popken contributed.




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[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

''Heist .. Who Stole The American Dream ?!'' ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltNaDDQZ07k

Was it The Ruskis? U think Dr.Jill Stein is somehow the problem?! U duopoly deluded dolt!! U brain

dead?!!! Watch this short video & then make a Christmas / New Year Resolution to get a fkn clue!!!!

e tenebris lux?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

Did you see this from Tom Hartman?


He was NOT anti-Hillary, you are a stupid Trump electing idiot!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

Despite what Thom Hartmann may have said in 2015, prior to the 2016 Election, he knows that Bernie

and sHillary are chalk and cheese and so look here for the HUGE differences between her and Bernie:

ad iudicium ...

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

Too bad YOU didn't come here and support Bernie in 2015/2016 when he still had a chance to win, were you asleep?

As you know I didn't have that problem I was here posting stuff in support of Bernie every week but YOU where NOT there supporting Bernie in comment OR post YOU waited till he had lost so YOU could start your work for the Russians and Trump!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

Have "the Russians and tRUMP" occupied the pickled walnut that passes for your so called brain?! U'll

be kissing Beto & Biden's Corporate luvin' asses .. just like U were more than happy to kiss Hellary's in

the last election!! And don't think that anyone who reads here is remotely fooled by your faux affiliations

to & expressions of affection for - Bernie Sanders .. as U were an inveterate DNC/DLC minion before U

ever supported Bernie, the Independent Senator for Vermont!!! Beware The RW Pseudo-Centrist Dems

2020 strategy ... let's all beat tRUMP by becoming Republicunts!!!!

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

Your compete FAILURE to get involved in stopping the GOP: and the evil they do enables them, You Shadz are a great asset to the GOP!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

Blowjob Bill & Obomber didn't "get involved in stopping the GOP" because they (and U?) are GOPlite

enablers but I am guessing that U have no idea WTF I am talking about .. on account of being such a

partisan DNC stooge, right?!!! Are U the kind of RW person who thinks it is all A-OK, just as long as a

Duplicitous Dem Corporate Banker Ass Kisser is The POTUS?!! Did U watch Thom Hartmann's video

above?! Or d'U fancy addressing either of the following ...

Your Zero Sum Game Binary B-S just doesn't wash here but it's taken U, 7 years to realize this. Must

argument go on or d'U get this: https://twitter.com/Shadz66Shadz6t6/status/1077982416680206338 ?

When faced with a Hellary Rotten Clinton v tRUMP choice - USA's 99% went with The Devil They Did

NOT Know! WhyTF d'U think that was the case? OR are U now going to feign ignorance - yet again?!

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

Beware "“Third Way” Democrats eager to go along with" a time served RW GOP scam like this ...


[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

You fucking Russian agent go screw yourself!

Everything you post is a lie sourced from Moscow!

You accuse me of being a 'stooge" yet I was here posting in support of Bernie when you weren't saying shit in support of Bernie YOU are a fucking Russian agent fraud!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

Yep, U are a "stooge", of the Pseudo-Centrist but de facto RW Extremist; Pro-Corporation; Pro-Banker

Worshiping & Necro-Economics of Neoliberalism & Neocon Foreign-Policy & Psycho-Politics Pursuing

DNC!!! U'll kiss the ass of anyone that The RW Dem Establishment pick for U to shill for!! I'll bet that U

regard ''NEOLIBERALISM'' as some kind of personal slur, lol! Here, go get yourself a clue ...

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2232) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 weeks ago

Support for Trump includes spreading the responsibility for his treachery to others.

Wake up idiot! Your obsession with Jill Stien is just what Trump needs to distract fools from his crimes. I can only guess that's your object all along. Why do you pretend to be a decent human being, you conservative tool. ... Oh, right! That's what conservatives have always done.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

One would think that people on here would be angry about the Russians meddling, that they would be savvy to technicis of governmental authorities to manipulate, but when I post this information here it is met with political spin from political hacks that don't give a damn about the country only their political party.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2232) from Fredericksburg, TX 3 weeks ago

Whoa pardner! One blackhat at a time. Lumping Jill Stein in with Trump benefits Trump more than it serves truth and [self] righteousness!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

I suppose if one's mind is particularly small it is necessary to "lump" stuff up, I don't suffer from that problem I can know many things at once like the fact that Trump is a POS and Jill Stein helped to empower him with Russian assistance, it is good to know ALL the ways the GOP and the Russians use to win if we are to defeat them!

BTW you got to have a lot of gall to support Jill Stein and talk about "self-righteousness".

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 4 weeks ago

It is important to remind people how evil Jill Stein is, Trump benefits from those that voted for Stein, truth is truth!

Trump didn't do it alone, he needed Flynn and Stein to help him.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33639) from Coon Rapids, MN 3 weeks ago

The DNC shot themselves in the head when they screwed Bernie and tried to shove sHillary down our throats! Your Right Trump didn't do it alone - he had Russia helping him as well as the DNC.

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8324) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

Don't forget Jill Stein she did her part too, can you really be blind to the the danger she poses? She was in Russia with Flynn that's a fact, no the Greens are not much of a threat these days and that is a good thing, but we can NEVER let our guard down from those that would elect more Republicans.

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 3 weeks ago

Is there anyone here who loves Russia meddling in the U.S. Election of 2016?

I think that we had been a little bit safer with Trump than with Hillary Clinton. I feared that our troops' involvement in enforcing a U.S. no-fly zone in northern Syria proposed by Hillary Clinton would cause a direct conflict between us and Russia.

Well, my feared event didn't happen but Turkey, a member of NATO, irritated by Russian incursions into its airspace, shot down a Russian warplane near there. It was a close call alright because NATO/Russia war, eh? Yikes!

Our troops killed with called-in airstrikes hundred(s) of Russian mercenaries in eastern Syria who had probably thought that using many tanks in their ground attack would send our troops scurrying in the dark for their lives but they were very dead wrong. Our troops were wondering about what their attackers were (who might even be [though unlikely due to NATO memberships but Turkey seemed to be striving to create its own new empire] Turkish troops trying to clean out the Kurdish troops who are U.S. allies) but Russian de-confliction command said that their troops were not involved so our troops bombed away in self defense.

In both incidents, Russia showed forbearance in the grand tradition of the Cold War struggles. Without the Russian restraints, we and much of the World's population probably would not even be alive.

The Russian mercenaries who attacked our troops near the Euphrates River were probably sold out by their ultimate financing boss who switched their funding source to be from Iran instead of from Russia so they were told to attack the U.S. and Kurdish troops.

I regret the deaths of so many Russians who were probably pushed hard by the economic hardship to sell their lives to support their families and children at home. It's the result of the tit-for-tat adventures of Vladimir Putin to soothe his and Russia's wounded pride lingering from the breakup of the Soviet Union. Annexation of Crimea/East Ukraine's Russian mercenary war upheaval/shootdown of civilian flight MH-17 -> sanctions against Russia -> Russian economy suffered -> veterans (of which there are many due to Russia's significantly conscripted military force) had to sell their military service to make ends meet -> they provided Vladimir Putin with deniability that Russia was meddling in East Ukraine and later on in eastern Syria -> Russian military essentially took the mercenaries off of Russia's payroll -> they became working for Iran, probably unwittingly -> attacked U.S. troops -> being bombed to death.

Vladimir Putin should get this: your people have to eat [well]! Not U.S. bombs, not Russian hypersonic missiles (they probably need a nuclear bomb on each one to kill a target because targeting accurately at Mach-20 is extremely tough so a nuclear bomb will definitely help to increase the kill radius incurring much civilian destruction or "friendly fire") or underwater drones, but beef-stroganoff bomber sandwiches express-delivered to Venezuela for hunger relief! Toothache be damned... The soft noodles will hurt less once you've found the beef and pushed through the initial pain.

I wonder whether "honey on a cracker" I ate as a preschooler was actually "maltose on a biscuit" or not. Maybe it was actually "honey on a biscuit," or "maltose on a cracker." Cultural whiplash is a bit hard to handle. Do the Brits really put their groceries in the boot? The floor numbering is confusing, too, but still in better and more honest sense than that of the Trump Tower in Manhattan. Hmm, was the messenger delivering the Japanese declaration of war on the U.S. in WWII confused by floor numbering in the U.S. and thus sealing the fate of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Where was it supposed to be delivered? In a multifloor building? Or was the delay due to a traffic jam? Could the misunderstanding be due to the U.S. and Japan being on different sides of the International Date Line so Japan was already on December 8th when the U.S. was still on December 7th?

Here's A.R.M.Y. beef to help start. Make some malted drinks from the ample wheat harvest this year to celebrate the coming Russian (January 14th, 2019 [Old]) New Year. пшеница, вода, водка, конечно!

Ukraine should join NATO so that WWIII can start in or near the Balkans in the classical manner. Oops!

I sympathize with how God must have felt after commanding the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." I told a youngster after setting up the DOS-based personal computer, "You are free to try any command from what you see here; but you must not try this 'FORMAT' command, for when you try it your computer will surely die." Guess, what happened? Kid is kid. I should have told him to join the book-burning Hitlerjugend -- at least some "German Culture" would have survived the Birchencaust! Russia burnt the Trumpanzees' books.

The Nutzi says, "I am Purrfect. I am 'FORMAT.'"

ZeUS sagte: 》Ich halte den Blitz in der Hand.《

Die Zukunft gehört der Jugend... Valar morghulis, Valar dohaeris. Think, why Beslan? Why ISIS and Raqqa? But even after the Scotland-secession and later the Brexit votes, U.K. has not gone to ruins from civil wars.

However, Los Angeles burnt in riots after the Rodney King verdict. Shaken by the violence, he asked, "Can't we all just get along?"

My Mom said that our clan largely disqualified ourselves from being judges because we'd lost the bloodthirsty instinct to chop people's heads off. One judge found out that a convicted thief stole to feed his mother. He was set free and gifted with a batch of our clan's freshly caught and aptly named scrods to start selling fish doing business for himself. As a kid, I was amused; law was obviously not a career path for us. We've got scrod!

真钨不怕火, 怕火不真钨。It's because 金 gold + 乌 dark = 钨 wolfram/tungsten ion has very tight-hugging ionic radius. Fluorine ion also has similar high electric field at its surface which can make teeth resistant to corrosion.

How did soldiers find marbles to play in conquered lands and be comforted? They harvested women's nipples for marble play. Boys are boys, right... Why was a fetus bayoneted from a pregnant woman's belly and impaled in the air? She didn't bow down far enough to show respect to a Medieval-minded soldier due to her bulging belly getting in the way so the soldier cleared the obstacle and finished off the disrepect. Some countries and peoples modernized their external ways quickly without modernizing their inner ways correspondingly to restrain the newly found strength. These included Germany, Japan, and now Red China (though having an ancient substrate with inner ways to restrain wantonness, Communism's ways actually came from the invasion by foreign German Jewish thoughts as bastardized by dictators; during Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution, significant culture was lost; Taiwan has preserved the traditional Chinese culture more.) It's never good to subject people to involuntary cultural whiplash. My Brother was spanked because he didn't understand Mom's rules so due to his fear, he went straight to trigger Mom's fury over "perjury" and "obstruction of justice." I suffered even more from cultural whiplash but was so utterly clueless that I avoided Mom's wrath, inadvertently, due to my effective "honesty." "What's your class rank?" "I don't know where my new kindergarten reports it. They spoke Gibberish there. [ Regarding Gibberish, I followed the examples of the three monkeys (See no evil, Hear no evil, and Speak no evil.) Mom, a patriarchy-caused-nearly-illiterate education ZEALOT, was absolutely wasting her hard-earned money on my "élite" education before I was ready for doing Gibberish or was it actually Gobbledygook? I was wiser than my Brother because I knew that I didn't know.] "

Saudi Arabia (with its many Islamo-fascist groups brewed by its oppressive domestic policies and religious "charity" education in the various -stans) is another recently emerging country with this morality problem. Japan committed these war crimes and still refused to let their children know the truth. Maybe Japan can and will re-enact these atrocities again on the neighbors. Yep, here's looking at you, kid.

Marrying to form a pair bond is a good thing. The right match is important. Arranged marriages can sometimes be horrors but uncoerced though arranged marriages can work well. Families and relatives scrounge for prospects but they don't make the decision. Enriched environment providing opportunities for passion works well.

As an example, I as a young child savored reading the comparison of the phlogiston theory to the oxidation theory of burning in my Brother's used high school Chemistry textbook. I learnt that there were plausible ideas that had to be cast away regardlessly if they didn't fit the facts. I can and still talk about phlogistons but that doesn't mean that I believe in their supremacy over the chemical theories about oxygen, chlorine, fluorine, etc. Greek mythology falls into the same category. Zeus still holds the lightning bolts but we hold a single equation which we wield similarly. The four Maxwell's Equations are the four sparks shooting out to control most of our everyday realm of living from atoms (chemoelementons) and on up to bigger conglomerates, aside from gravity. Surface charge density and its adjunct ionic radius control life.