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Forum Post: Bernie Sanders leads Joe Biden in Emerson national poll of 2020 contenders

Posted 4 months ago on April 17, 2019, 7:37 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8218) from Phoenix, AZ
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"WASHINGTON – Sen. Bernie Sanders finished ahead of Joe Biden in the first major national poll of the year that did not find the former vice president leading the pack of potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidates.

When asked whom they would support from a list of 20 candidates – including "someone else" – 29% named Sanders, and 24% named Biden in an Emerson College poll released Monday. They were trailed by South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, who was the pick of 9% of likely Democratic primary voters.

California Sen. Kamala Harris and former Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke each came in at 8%, and 7% picked Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro got 3%, as did entrepreneur Andrew Yang. New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker got 2%, and the rest of the field got 1% or less."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/16/election-2020-bernie-sanders-leads-joe-biden-national-poll/3482387002/

So WHEN Bernie wins the Democratic Party nomination will he get support from the Greens? or will they put Jill Stein up to divide us?

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33789) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 days ago

& Bernie's Green New Deal is EXACTLY why He Should Be Leading In ALL HONEST Polls (those that actually take a complete representative sampling of the whole population - not a targeted sampling).

You can add your name in support of the Green New Deal:

https://act.berniesanders.com/signup/bernie-green-new-deal_s/?source=em190823-1-15&refcode2=2707.353928.Uc9HDA&t=2&akid=2707%2E353928%2EUc9HDA

We NEED the Major changes listed in The Green New Deal of Bernie's - the luxury of time to act has been pissed away over the last 50 years by establishment status-quo government - & we NOW need to make the necessary changes ASAP!

Those in office who cater to the wealthy few (establishment status-quo supporters) fear Bernie & the Squad and all who are like them because they would lead the general population out of slavery to the wealthy few!

[-] 1 points by gsw (3258) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 3 weeks ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33789) from Coon Rapids, MN 3 weeks ago

Why are clowns like Delaney and Hickenlooper on the stage despite having essentially no popular support in their pretend bids for the Democratic presidential nomination? They are there for one reason: to assault Warren and especially Sanders because Warren and particularly Sanders are seen by establishment party and media elites as threats to critical features of corporate rule.

& CNN is not alone in trying to shoot-down Bernie & Elizabeth in an attempt to shore up the status-quo establishment (for the wealthy few) Republican Joe Biden (yeah I know He is running as a Dem - but seriously just look at his record in office = Republican) https://t.co/nDJVDH7mkS?amp=1

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

Re. Bernie & Biden - ''Here’s how the DNC plans on cheating Bernie in the primaries'' ...

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 2 months ago

Many can't afford their monthly bills.

"The economy may be chugging along, but many Americans are still struggling to afford a basic middle class life.

Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone, according to a study released Thursday by the United Way ALICE Project. That's 43% of households in the United States."

From heartbreaker of an article by CNN no less:

https://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news/economy/us-middle-class-basics-study/index.html

If CNN is willing to report how bad it is out there you know it's actually much WORSE!

Humming economy for the wealthy and corporations, suffering for the masses.

Time to wake up people. Joe Biden is NOT the answer.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 2 months ago

The electorate can only get younger. And, as it gets younger, it gets more accepting, and even demanding, of a diverse and more equal society.

"Younger generations narrowly outvoted baby boomers and older generations last November for the first time ever in a modern midterm election, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Research Center."

From: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/midterm-election-voter-turnout-pew-research-center_n_5cee9631e4b0975ccf5ea761

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

''Indoctrinated by Econ 101'' by John Warner:

So, tho' the ''analysis by the Pew Research Center provides evidence against the long-held notion that younger generations in the U.S. don’t turn out to vote'' (from your link) ... before they do .. HOW MANY HAVE BEEN ''Indoctrinated by Econ 101''?! And so now from my link, consider:

''What if instead of Econ 101, we’d all taken the media literacy in politics course which would’ve allowed more people to more forcefully challenge the narrative that drove that debate?

''What if we’ve allowed generations of students to be indoctrinated into a belief system in ways that – as even many economics professors now believe – were fundamentally flawed?''

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 1 month ago

"Supply and demand is framed as a law in the same fashion as gravity."

That is the first mistake. Then,

"When supply and demand does not seem to work according to the “law” (e.g., health care) it is the not the law that is faulty, but the market itself, with much public policy effort going toward trying to bring the market in compliance with the law, often to negative effect."

That is the second mistake.

"That supply and demand might not be a law doesn’t seem to occur. Higher education seems to be bumping up against these tensions as well."

Right. So, when Econ 101 teaches that the economy is like a natural event, say a tree growing or the sun coming out each day, run, because the economy is in fact, not a naturally occurring thing at all. It is man made and it is run by humans. The real problem is that it's run by only a few humans FOR a very few humans when it can very easily work for ALL PEOPLE if we demand it.

[-] 2 points by elf3 (4068) 1 month ago

Very true. This Ayn Randian inverted capitalism where the masses work to build the wealth of the very few is the same thing as Communism. Especially with unlimited campaign funding and politicians working as one with corporations, we have a system that kills the individual as much as Communism. I believe in order to have a system where the individual can thrive we must have set down a social foundation that supports the many. Survival of the fittest and ownership by a few creates a hopeless system where the individual is crushed under the boot of the wealth class. It inevitable leads to Feudalism and has never been proven to work. If you only feed a few animals in the heard, the rest die and the ones standing will quickly realize they can't survive without them the land becomes infertile, the grass doesn't grow - they starve. This holds true for our economy. We need a healthy working class, because our money goes back into the system and creates a thriving circle. Suddenly the money disappears into the mouths of sharks and doesn't come back in to keep feeding the working class. This is further compounded as the working class is called upon to split their reduced wages to aid the increase in poor and starving who have been economically displaced via ever increasing shares of taxes on their reduced incomes despite growing inflation. Water the garden - everything grows. Water the rich, we all die. Investing in the working class is an investment in security and a thriving America with all the values it used to stand for - an economy where upward mobility is easy and a decent life is accessible. EMPLOY PEOPLE - LOTS OF THEM. Pay your employees more than well. Keep them healthy and working. Another aspect rarely discussed is all the jobs lost to land lording and individuals choosing passive income as opposed to opening businesses which employ people. The working class are the consumers! Without one when very few can afford anything - we don't have an economy and supply and demand is just a hedged illusion as the American dream crashes and shatters and the sharks swim in eat the pieces and grow ever fatter each time. But that only lasts so long before the entire country begins to resemble a third world nation. When the majority of a country is broke and poor - it isn't a very fun place to live.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 4 weeks ago

Suicide rates are up.

Even the elderly suffer as they are alienated from loved ones who have to move away for jobs and their own communities are underfunded for activities. People are disconnected from each other as they struggle to survive in an economy that pits people against one another.

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/27/745017374/isolated-and-struggling-many-seniors-are-turning-to-suicide

Depression sinks in as the realization that the meaning of life has been captured by only the rich, the employers and corporations while the rest are left to worry and struggle day in and day out, barely able to provide the basics for their families, let alone have time for real attention for children and elderly parents. It's no wonder suicide is up. Work, work, work. Debt, debt, debt.

Truth is there is enough money to go around and an economy based on fairness, sharing and wellness could turn this around. This would, of course, take courage from the government to implement a fair economy but it is doable! Never give up the fight!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 weeks ago

''Dare To Declare Capitalism Dead – Before It Takes Us All Down With It!!" ... by George Monbiot:

''The economic system is incompatible with the survival of life on Earth. It is time to design a new one.''

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 4 weeks ago

Capitalism, consumerism and environmental collapse.

https://www.ehn.org/capitalism-and-our-environmental-collapse-2521833465.html

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

''With the future of humanity at stake .. why aren't we already doing these things? What will it really take for our civilization to change course and save itself from destruction?'' & ''Our global systems, which are designed for perpetual growth, need to be fundamentally restructured to avoid the worst-case outcome.'' AND ''However, the only thing that will truly avert collapse will be a radical restructuring of the economic system that is driving us ever more rapidly to that precipice.'' From your excellent link and fyi, consider...

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

''The White Man’s Biden'', by William Rivers Pitt:

From which ... ''Biden, who apparently hasn’t met a vicious conservative he doesn’t like and respect, stepped on a whole series of rakes over the last several days, and his standing as the establishment pick for the nomination is setting the party up for another calamity at the polls.

''Biden attended a big-dollar fundraiser at the Carlyle hotel in New York on Tuesday, one of several he graced with his presence that day. While unspooling his boilerplate spiel about “civility” and working with hidebound Republicans who are really great you guys, trust me, Delaware’s erstwhile favorite son got lost in the weeds of history, white supremacy and institutional racism.''

''Biden was in New York for one reason: To get money from rich people and as many Republican donors as he could corner during cocktails. During the event at the Carlyle Hotel, Biden promised the wealthy assemblage he would not “demonize anybody who has made money.”

“You’re not the other,” Biden told the room. “I need you very badly. I hope if I win this nomination, I won’t let you down. I promise you.” This was a reprise of the refrain he unspooled in March, when he said, “I love Bernie, but I’m not Bernie Sanders. I don’t think 500 billionaires are the reason why we’re in trouble.”

spero meliora!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

''Kamala Harris Says She Was a Progressive Prosecutor. Her Record Says Otherwise.'' ...

caveat emptor!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 2 months ago

Biden's subtle racism. Will it be overlooked with a younger electorate voting every year? I think not, and if he is the Dem candidate, ultimately, he will lose to Trump despite what the polls say right now imo.

"And then, there is the matter of “boy.” When used against Black men, “boy” is a racist pejorative slur meant to insult and diminish their standing as a free adult. When used against white men like Biden, “boy” is merely a noun with no ghastly history attached. Joe Biden missed the point completely, again."

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

Corp. Dems crave political suicide! The Dirty DNC have the rare ability to take a good idea & a popular idea such as health care for everyone & muck it up into a hot mess - until they're now on the defensive about something that should be a stone cold winner for them! Fkn Idiots!! Also, please try to consider...

ad iudicium?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 1 month ago

Marianne Williamson's truth bombs at the Democratic Debate were fantastic! I had no idea what to expect from her but see them here:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/6/28/18961296/marianne-williamson-democratic-debate-oprah-meme-twitter

In very few words she called out U.S. foreign policy in Latin America as the true cause of the "migrant" problem. She called out big pharma, she cited New Zealand as a beacon of hope (they are focusing now on wellness instead of profit). She backed the Green New Deal for jobs and the environment and she cited a lack of understanding of American history as a place to focus for overcoming racism.

And, yep, only the Dems can take something that the large majority of Americans want - healthcare for all! and muck it up!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 month ago

''Emotional distress crisis in USA. Flows from economic decline (jobs w/lower wages, much less security, fewer benefits, heavy debts, gross inequality) as millions blame themselves for missing out on hyped "great economy" that is a fake. Tragic.'' - from ...

fiat justitia - ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33789) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

(edit) She could be good advisory council to Government - but I don't see Her as being a good president.

Just like other candidates "could" make good administrators of certain Institutions/agencies that does not mean that they would make for being a good president.

Edit:

Marianne Williamson's truth bombs at the Democratic Debate were fantastic!

Good choice to head up Health & Human Services? (if she is for real?)

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22912) 1 month ago

Totally agree. I don't think she will or should ever be President. I think she was there to say her truth bombs which she did well.

Heck, the American people need to hear certain things. I think that if she's for real head of HHS is not a bad idea!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33789) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Heck, the American people need to hear certain things

& often times they will only stumble across it by accident. It's why I see what I can do to perhaps catch someone who stops by these individuals twitter accounts as well as elsewhere. They certainly are NOT gonna hear or see most of what they need to hear & see from corporate owned & operated Media.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22912) 1 month ago

And, this forum is still important imo.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33789) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

And, this forum is still important imo.

I agree!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33789) from Coon Rapids, MN 3 months ago

U @dccc & @DNCWarRoom pushing @JoeBiden as well as incumbents who may as well b @GOP as that is where they resonate. Is exactly why u r becoming totally irrelevant 2 t General Public & is EXACTLY y @BernieSanders SHOULD B RUNNING AS AN INDEPENDENT Democrat! SERVE T PUBLIC !

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

''Michael Moore on the Democrats" ...

So whyTF are U fixated on Stein & US Greens - when the clear & present danger for #Bernie2020 is

coming from right inside the rotten guts of U$A's Democraps?! The answers U seek, are in the short

video above. Welcome to The Real World as, IF DNC/2016 happens again - it will be 3rd Party time!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

So WHY are Corp. GOPlite Dems so desperate to lose to tRUMP in 2020?! This is THE question

that the Partisan Corporate Dem / DNC ass-kissers really need to come to terms with & start to ask!!

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

"History Shows Joe Biden 3.0 Is a Bad Idea!" - by William Rivers-Pitt:

It is pure propaganda to give credibility to Biden who cannot beat Trump and the Trump forces know it.

CNN & entire establishment fear one person: Bernie Sanders. He is the target because he represents

their worst nightmare - a democratically representative POTUS, with USA's 99% in his mind and heart.

Any true liberal/progressive/leftist will NOT be conned by Democraps or the Corp. CON-troll-ed MSM!

caveat emptor!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

''Bernie Sanders v the Democratic establishment: What the battle is really about!'', by Zaid Jilani:

''Sanders is sparking a debate within the Democratic party about whether courting big dollars is the only way to stay competitive.''

consillio et animis ...