Forum Post: OWS protests in other world capitals, but not our own. Why?
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 17, 2011, 2:22 p.m. EST by enough
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There were massive OWS protests in the capitals of other countries around the world; e.g., London, Rome, Berlin, Tokyo, etc. but not right here in the U.S. What's wrong with that picture? Conspicuous by its absence is the OWS call to march on Washington in massive numbers? It seems the OWS is reluctant to stage a huge rally in Washington DC because such a protest in the U.S. capital will embarrass Obama and the Democratic Party? Is that true? Many observers and posters in this forum are asking the same question. What say you?
Occupy is in dc??? Read before you post!!
There are several protests going on in Washington right now, including OccupyDC
the people don't recognize the capital as a legitimate government
To the right, states give charters to corporations. They could take them away.
Let's not forget that Washington has to regulate Wall Street, so being in Washington is not a minor thing. The unhealthy relationship between the global oligarch and Washington is purely poisonous. It's not just Obama, it's everybody. They live in a bubble of pure, smelly money.
There is a revolving door between those who work for the SEC and those who work on Wall Street. The regulators make believe they are regulating Wall Street and Wall Street makes believe it is being regulated. It's a sick joke. Besides, the SEC couldn't hit its ass with either hand with the fucking lights on. Witness Bernie Madoff. The SEC sure isn't going to outgun Wall Street. It's a Keystone Cops comedy and anybody paying attention knows it.
Good to see so many well informed people in this movement. Goes against the idea that we are all braindead hippies.
Occupy IS in DC. Politicians only direct the hose FOR CORPORATIONS Wall Street IS the capital of this country.
Don't worry---this is going to spread to DC, big time.
Until then, let's stop worrying about whether Business ate Government or the other way around. It's of, by, and for the same small group of people.
Amen.
because the people don't feel they have control of their current central government
The protests in the world were started in the Middle East, not here. We need to give them props first. The way the media is mute about it proves that they are forced to take this movement very seriously.
There is an occupy group in DC. Join them.
There are also other protests going on in DC. Cornel West was arrested last night on the steps of the Supreme Court last night.
Thank you. I wasn't aware of that. It's a start and I hope it grows. Most people think about the president and congress when they think about Washington. Most forget about the third branch of government, the Supreme Court. These are the geniuses that gave corporations a pulse.
I am tired of politicians, pundits, partisans, hijackers like MoveOn.org, posters on this board, and others saying that the OWS is afraid to protest in our capital in huge numbers because it would be an embarrassment to Obama, who accepted more money from Wall Street than anyone in U.S. history. It doesn't pass the giggle test. OWS needs to remain strictly non-partisan or the movement will be fatally compromised.
We will get to DC. Occupy may have had blazing and breath-taking growth, but it is by design a slow, lumbering movement (due partly to refreshing idealism and due partly to cynical paranoia, but I digress). It may shed some of its idealism for a little agility later, but right now it moves slow.
Wall Street is symbolic. That's why the Occupation is there. And Occupy is still in its symbolic phase. We must first build the will before we build the way. 30 days may seem like a long time, but keep this in mind:
Rosa Parks sat down in 1955. The March on Washington was in 1963.
It's not just a question of physical transportation and practical logistics. Remember that the work is long.
Fine, but why doesn't OWS, at least, come forward and say it intends to march on Washington DC in the near future. This would temporary deflect much of the criticism that OWS is simply an activist wing of the Democratic Party under Obama's direction. It would also signal groups like MoveOn.org to take a walk.
Because first, I'm not sure OWS has the organization in place to make those declarations, and second I don't think OWS should be concentrating on deflecting criticism right now - as important as that is, right now it's more of a distraction trying to deflect the random and haphazard accusations coming from all sides (it's a liberal movement! No, it's a libertarian movement! No, it's an indigent movement! No, it's - etc...).
I think so long as there are roughly equal suspicions that Occupy is "under Obama's direction" and "under Ron Paul's direction," then both such accusations can do the work of cancelling each other out.
Not to make excuses, because I do hear what you are saying, but the USA is BIG. Long trip between coasts.
New York and D.C are on the same coast.
I realize that the logistics and costs are considerable to stage such a march on Washington, but until it happens, OWS is vulnerable to the likes of MoveOn.org and others that believe the movement is afraid to embarrass president and, therefore, has taken a partisan position. Many pundits and politicians are assuming the same thing. There is only one way to dispel the criticism and that is by rallying in huge numbers in the nation's capital. Certainly, OWS understands this vulnerability.
There is a huge "Occupy DC" occupation going on right now....
I don't mean a local OWS group. I mean a million man march type of rally that converges on the capital and befits a national movement.
Most of us HATE obama (wall streets president). There is however an active attempt by MoveOn.org to hijack our movement for Obama. Ignore them. They do not represent us at all. Majority of us see past the 2 party illusion
As a former ardent supporter of Obama, I just want to add my two-cents' worth:
Obama is a MASTER MANIPULATOR. He has no conscience whatsoever, in fact he has become morally bankrupt.
BEWARE of him. I'm sure he hates OWS with a passion and would do anything to crush you... You see, he ran on a completely fraudulent platform of "change", which he never delivered on, but which OWS IS DELIVERING IN HIS STEAD!
He knows how pathetic that makes him look, how mercilessly posterity will judge him, and has probably never felt so jealous or humiliated in his life.
You can't ignore them. That's what they will do to you. Their voice is louder then yours.
There will be soon, just wait
Thank you. The sooner the better. Maybe then, hijackers like MoveOn.org will get the message.
When in Nov 2012.
I am from DC. It is joke. I have been to Mcpherson square couple of times. Where are the unions who are supporting us? They are busy lobbying.
They will be here once they hijack the movement. lol
I hate to say it, we sat around bickering about politics and lost sight of the original goal.
Do most of us know what our goal is. I still think the goal should be that big corporations should not have influence on congress and the decision making. May I am barking at wrong tree.
Now goal seems to be I do not want to study, work but pay me by taxing the rich.
That was the original goal. get the money and corporate interests out of Washington. Instead we bickered about Libertarian economics that wont ever happen, extremist socialism, Taxes, the fed... Every thing other then removing the greed and corruption from our government.
(Edit) We did exactly what the elite wanted... Divide.
Let's leave President Obama out of this for now.
Marching on Washington is the worst thing we could do - this is not a political protest, but instead and economic and moral protest. Washington is merely the tool of Wall Street and the international cartels who control nearly every politician. Marching there will be playing into the hands of the corrupt 1%, turning our attention on the wrong people.
Washington and Wall Street are joined at the hip. That's how Wall Street money influences elected officials.
I agree enough. Most of the people want to protest against the establishment in DC but some vested interests are opposing. This will be clear as we approach Nov 2012. Then we should not blame any body but our selves.
Since when does OWS follow directives from vested interests and who exactly are these vested interests? Who are the leaders calling the shots for the OWS and coming down against the wishes of most of the protesters?
Wall street do not write any laws or regulations. All are written in senate and house in Washington. Wall street is symbolic and I think symbolic part of protest should be over. Now it is time make changes.
daverao, this is simply factually wrong. Almost all legislation is written by corporate lawyers, lobbyists or think tanks. Do you really think any of our elected officials are physically or mentally able to write todays complex laws by themselves? The healthcare act was thousands of pages. I know my elected reps from Idaho can't even read the whole thing without help!
The powers that be reside on Wall St., not Washington.