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Forum Post: Exposing the Oil and Gas Industry’s False Jobs Promise for Shale Gas Development: How Methodological Flaws Grossly Exaggerate Jobs Projections

Posted 7 years ago on Dec. 6, 2011, 11:14 a.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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The oil and gas industry, industry-funded academics and ideological think tanks have promoted shale gas development — through the controversial process of hydraulic fracturing, or fracking — as a sure-fire job creator during difficult economic times. Food & Water Watch closely examined a recent report touting the job-creation potential of shale gas development and found numerous inaccuracies and methodological flaws. Even after correcting for these problems, questions remain about the validity of using economic forecasting models to predict the economic impacts of expanded shale gas development.

The purported economic benefits of shale gas development have served as a primary justification for opening up large parts of New York State to fracking. In a 2011 report, the Public Policy Institute of New York State (PPINYS) claimed that, by 2018, the development of 500 new shale gas wells each year in the five counties of Allegany, Broome, Chemung, Steuben and Tioga could sustain 62,620 new jobs in New York, relative to the case of no shale gas development. Another 500 new wells would need to be drilled and fracked every year to sustain these jobs.

Of these 62,620 jobs, PPINYS claimed that 15,500 would be “direct jobs” created from direct spending by shale gas companies. Only a small fraction of the direct jobs would actually be in the gas industry; most would be direct jobs in different industries due to shale gas company spending. The remaining 47,120 jobs would be “indirect jobs” and “induced jobs” created through the economic spillover effects from direct job creation; that is, through a multiplier effect.

However, after identifying and correcting the numerous inaccuracies and methodological flaws that led to this rosy projection, Food & Water Watch determined that the economic forecasting model PPINYS relied on only supports a claim of 6,656 New York jobs by 2018, under the PPINYS scenario of drilling and fracking 500 new shale gas wells that year. Yet this corrected estimate — a little over one-tenth of the original PPINYS claim — still does not account for any of the negative impacts that shale gas development would have on other economic sectors, such as agriculture and tourism.

Go here for the full report: http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/reports/exposing-the-oil-and-gas-industrys-false-jobs-promise/

Hmmmm. Imagine that, they lied.



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[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 7 years ago

That isn't that hard to imagine.

In fact, I think we tend to expect it.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Only the sane people.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 7 years ago

and I see we have a few with but a tenuous grasp of reality at best . . .

[-] 0 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

Sadly, the ows has no job promises and are out to destroy as many jobs as possible. At least the oil industry is a multi-billion dollar industry that HAS JOBS.

[-] 2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 7 years ago

yes it does have jobs . . . and in the Nigerian delta these jobs have brought untold misery and death.

I would not have the frakin frackers frakin so close to my home . . . .

[-] -1 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

Then move.

[-] 1 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 7 years ago



My cousins were instrumental in seeing the Sovereign State of Vermont entered into the Union as the 14th State.

My cousins initiated a raid that captured a British fort - without firing a shot.

Just why should I move when my roots to this culture run so deep?

Piss off.

[-] -1 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

piss off is a british term, nice try at impersonating an American. Go back to occupy london, loser.

[-] 2 points by ZenDogTroll (13032) from South Burlington, VT 7 years ago

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who the fuck are you?

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One person can make a difference

I believe that.

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[-] -1 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

GOD you are butt-ugly.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

That's the best argument that you can drum up? Nobody asked you what you thought about his appearance. You simple minded fucktwit.

[-] 2 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 7 years ago

For you simple people who judge a person by their appearances and not by their actions, you will be sorry. It does not change a person's character. Beauty and being well dressed just placate those simple minds who buy into the American standard of beauty. Here is some food for thought. You set yourself up to be exploited and manipulated when you use superficial standards to judge your fellow human

[-] 2 points by April (3196) 7 years ago

I think he has nice eyes. : )

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

No, they don't. Next time try reading the report.

[-] -1 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

I did a google search on: 'jobs in gas and oil' and got thousands of hits. Am I supposed to believe a pamphlet by an obvious 'oil/jobs/people' hater? Naaaaa, there are jobs in oil and gas. But the ows has NO paying jobs prospects and are destroying small business jobs. If you WANT to believe there are no jobs in oil and gas, then to you there are no jobs in oil and gas. But in reality, many people are earning a very good living producing gas and delivering it to people willing to buy it. Have a wonderful rainbow day.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Read the report. Flawed methods do not create jobs. Otherwise, you are a liar.

[-] 0 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

Oil companies create jobs, what part of that don't you understand?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Read the report and then see if you can bring a presentable argument to the table. Have a lovely day!

[-] 0 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

ok, read the report by oil-hating libs that love destroying jobs. So what? They are literally free to post on the internet, creating NO jobs and trying to destroy the remaining jobs. Good luck on your passing free PDF's. Love to read them. I use natural gas in my home, what am I supposed to do, watch it end because you don't like it? I'm bending over, pucker up cupcake.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Here is a thought, your ilk lied about the jobs, are destroying the water supply, killing people and causing earthquakes. And what are we supposed to do allow you to carry on?

[-] 0 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

You have a thought? That's a new one. So nice you blame me personally for: lying about jobs, destroying the water supply, KILLING PEOPLE!!! and.... bwahhahahhaha causing earthquakes!!!! So sorry to say to you that me 'caring' about any of these things will actually make a change. I think your obsession with what others think is destroying your mental state of mind. Now run off and protest something before you die of cancer. I bet you smoke cigs, pot and drink. Am I right?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

I'm crushed.

It is your complicity and denial. You think exactly what you are told to like an obedient dog.


Hey you wanna know what would be great? Being able to press criminal charges for attempted murder every time one of those douche bags poison the water supply or someone becomes ill from the chemicals. Oh, shit and then every time there is an earth quake -a little sumpin' sumpin' on destruction of property..............oh yeah...........maybe we should rethink terrorism.......

I don't do drugs, thanks. :)

[-] 0 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

girl friday, you sure like to push your religion on non-believers. Right, if you were in charge everyone would be shot for nothing. That's why you aren't in charge. So you smoke and drink, what is that doing to your body? How long before you sue the cig companies for you giving yourself cancer?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

I just told you I don't do drugs, fucktwit. Pull your head out of your ass and have a nice day!!! :)

[-] 0 points by acbdefg (51) 7 years ago

I can't hear you with your head up your ass. I've got to sign off for a while so you will have the last meaningless post.