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[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

This site has always been under attack, Proteus. This, lately, is nothing in comparison to last fall and winter.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

November on this site was intense.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

I remember. Have you ever gone back to the archive? It's a lot of fun to re-read some of the threads from back then.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 10 years ago

I'll have to check it out again.

I just remember there was a ton of people always telling me to get a job. Which was funny because back in November I had 2 jobs and my own side business.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

lots of arguing the rights of people to protest

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[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

That's really nice that you say that. Yes, we have lost a lot of good people. I keep a list of them: HitGirl, therising, gypsyking, girlfriday, modestcapitalist, nucleus, puzzlin, looselyhuman, bluerose, wiseoldowl, puff6962, epa1nter, gillian, xenulives and there are others. Geez, I wish they'd all come back.

But in the meantime we have gathered up many excellent new users that I think we welcome just fine when they post comments and don't start off judging the forum from the get go. This place takes a while to navigate and figure out. So, maybe we don't trust people who think they know more than we do after being here for a few days.

[-] 0 points by OWSgeneration (1) 10 years ago

Hey BW, it's the bain of Thrasmachus and Iron Butt. If I say who I will once again be blocked. I am still in the jungle. Good to see you hanging in there:)

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

Hello. I have an idea who you are, but I'll admit I'm not sure. LOL!

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Hey, it's OWSleader.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

OWSleader was your bane?

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

No, I didn't care for him. I just recognize him, that's all.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

Oh. Not sure about that.

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Stick to the ideas, not the proposer. Don't worry about who says what, comment on the good ideas, ignore the bad ones. Stop wasting your time chasing who you perceive as being "trolls", it's absolutely useless. Instead, participate on the forum by providing ideas.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

LOL! I don't need or want your advice.

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[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

She gave the phone number of someone at the Boston Globe. As far as I know, the Boston Globe is a newspaper, not a political magazine. So, what's up with that? She hasn't answered my reply to her yet where I ask her if she works for the Boston Globe, so we'll just have to wait and see.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 10 years ago

Here are the details for her editor. I sent him an email trying to confirm her story. Haven't heard back yet. 90% chance she 's a troll.

Deputy Managing Editor, Sunday and Projects Mark Morrow Beat: Investigative 617-929-7129 E-mail: m_morrow@globe.com Career: Assistant Managing Editor/Features, Living/Arts Desk, Boston Globe

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

Good job. Keep us posted.

[-] 1 points by dreamingforward (394) from Gothenburg, NE 10 years ago

I lived in Boston and can verify that the Boston Globe is a newspaper. Perhaps she was just giving a reference of someone who could verify her. I didn't see the specific post...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

We'll see. I'll await her response.

[-] 1 points by OWSgeneration (1) 10 years ago

This site has long been taken over by those antithetical to positive change.

In the US today, every progressive effort is thwarted by vested interest. This process will destroy the world if left uncheked. That is why we have needed the OWS generation, and I pray it may yet be the defining moment of this generation. It will have to be if they want to see their grandchildren grow up.

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[-] 2 points by agkaiser (2516) from Fredericksburg, TX 10 years ago

I too suspect there are multiple name posters, though it may be gaggles of fraternity geese supporting the house flock.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 10 years ago

ok everyone

Please

try to make your points wih --......... civility.

much arguing on the forum, however interesting to read as fiction, does not contribute to any goals, and is causing hurt feelings.

the people may not put faith in you -with all the petty squabbling -- if you don't trust each other, and respect each other.

the parents shouldn't fight in front of the kids. right. debate ok. caring so much about personalities and points, maybe not.

you all have valuable ideas, but they're hard to see in all the muckracking.

Similar to partisan pleas, the many personality pleas

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 10 years ago

I think it would be great to name names, just put that it is your opinion that they are multiple name posters.

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[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

Proteus is actually an ancient Greek god, no? Just thinking out loud here. Thrasymaque, who you must know about by now, used to choose all names that were from Plato's Republic. So, strange coincidence with the ancient Greek name, but maybe some people had that initial reaction that you are a troll due to your name.

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[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

Shadz would certainly know. Proteus, your name, puts you at risk of us thinking you are Thrasymaque, sorry. And, your English seems to go from bad to good, and good to bad which makes me suspicious, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Happy posting!

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[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 10 years ago

Are they still doing the shows on the grain elevator? I loved it.

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[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 10 years ago

We really enjoyed it and were impressed technically. Also enjoyed old Quebec, reminds of France. Stayed in a hotel from 1600's.

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[-] 0 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Quebec is a nice city, but the people are very conservative.

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Why did you ask about my other monikers if you already knew? You're funny with your little tests. By the way, I was also a few of the posters you mentioned in a comment above.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23704) 10 years ago

I think I know which ones, in particular modestcapitalist and bluerose, right? Go ahead, indulge me. Let's get the truth out here and now.

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 10 years ago

I think it's ok to state who you think is an antagonizer, just state it as your opinion. I believe Ms Staci to be a wall street supporter, and I can't recall how to spell the second person's name so I won't try.

[-] 0 points by funkytown (-374) 10 years ago

Why the paranoia? You will either stand or fall on the ability to influence others.

[-] 1 points by jbgramps (159) 10 years ago

Best post of the day. Thanks!

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[-] 0 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

He means that only ideas matter. Either they are good and influence others, or they are bad and quickly forgotten. The proposer does not matter. It does not matter if a person is a troll, a republican, a police officer, a man from mars, Obama, etc... If his idea is good, it's good. He means to stop worrying about who is who, and what a person's intentions are, just worry about the ideas being presented.

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[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Speaking of names. Curious. How did you come to choose the name Proteus? Nothing wrong with your post.

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[-] 3 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Its a great name of course...but...I'm afraid the description of the name 'Proteus' is not doing you any favours, as the "capable of assuming many forms", "mutable" and "elusive change" was/is trashy's modus operandi. You may have an uphill battle on your hands. Lol!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus

In Greek mythology, Proteus (Πρωτεύς) is an early sea-god, one of several deities whom Homer calls the "Old Man of the Sea".[1] Some who ascribe to him a specific domain call him the god of "elusive sea change," which suggests the constantly changing nature of the sea or the liquid quality of water in general. He can foretell the future, but, in a mytheme familiar to several cultures, will change his shape to avoid having to; he will answer only to someone who is capable of capturing him. From this feature of Proteus comes the adjective protean, with the general meaning of "versatile", "mutable", "capable of assuming many forms". "Protean" has positive connotations of flexibility, versatility and adaptability. The earliest attested form of the name is the Mycenaean Greek po-ro-te-u, written in Linear B syllabic script.[2]

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

You're a sharp detective as ever. I'll give you that. How's Svali?

Here's another definition of proteus:

a bacterium found in the intestines of animals and in the soil. • Genus Proteus; motile Gram-negative rods.

[-] 4 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

As in 'bullshit'. How appropriate that you would be drawn to that definition.

[-] 0 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Which of my characters do you prefer? April, Proteus, or electron?

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[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

I guess my Renneye character is kind of lame. I'll admit it. She was never the Alex Jones I wanted her to be....

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

I already know the answer...but if you are admitting to all three, admit it openly to the others as a thread on the main forum.

[-] 1 points by LetsGetReal (1420) from Grants, NM 10 years ago

Which one used the word leitmotiv? Good word.

[-] 1 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 10 years ago

You are so scandalous. Do you get off on feeding people's preconceived fantasies?

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Renneye has no fantasies. She's a realist.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Hi there April. How's the Victor/Victoria thing going?

Svali's life's work to help humanity won't be helpful in time, because of people with tunnel vision, like you.

Detective?! Hahaha! Tell me...how close did I get?

[-] 0 points by April (3196) 10 years ago

Boring Renneye. As usual. What happened. Run out of other stupid conspiracy theories.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Victor/Victoria! Tell the trashy compartment to ex-nay on the brutish side of the April character. If you want to play both male and female personas, there has to be a greater chasm between the two. Soften it up a little.

[-] -2 points by April (3196) 10 years ago

Uh yeah. I'll be sure to tell him. I mean me. I mean him. I mean her. I mean me. You're right. This is so confusing. How did you figure it out! Way to go Ding-Dong.

You are so utterly boring and stupid.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Awww....there we go....true colours agaaaaain.

Thanks for the confirmation though!

Now...when you're Victor/Victoria, do you do a split dress-up? On the side that you wear lipstick....maybe you should pass on the crimson red and opt for a more subtle tone...like ohhhh... tutti-'fuity'.

[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

You're off target as usual. With all your assumptions.

[-] 4 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

I'm not off target. You are April. Admit it.

The only way you'll get any respect this time round, if even possible, is complete transparency. Which will include your location, to keep you in line.

You are incapable of self control. You sent me some pretty creepy stuff. You need the looming threat(for you) / safeguard(for us) of us knowing where to find you and slapping you silly if you abuse anyone on this forum again. There...that should keep you on OWS topic AND civil.

Or have you already exposed yourself? You're the type that would get a kick out of hiding in plain site.

[+] -4 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Are you making physical threats? First that's illegal, second, what does that say about Occupy? Are you so insecure that you would like to come where I am and beat me up with your friends? Would that make Occupy a better place?

[-] 4 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Victor/Victoria...You need to show some good faith before anyone will take you seriously again. If you don't, guaranteed you will wreak havoc with this forum....again.

Are you denying then that you are April?

[+] -4 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

What's up with the threats of violence? Is that what Occupy has become, users so insecure that they threaten others with physical violence on the forum? Are you a terrorist?

You're mentally ill Renneye. Get help.

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Hmmm...so no denial that you're April? And no show of good faith.

You sound like a broken record. Again....predictable.

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

You threatened me with violence which is a federal offense. That is what interests me now. Do you also threaten other people here? It really doesn't matter if I'm April or not.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

Ooooooooooo...my bad? What's it going to be this time Victor/ia......the FBI? Hahaha! You think I give a rats ass what interests you.

You wouldn't want ANY authorities poking around what you have going on. You probably break 10 laws before the average person has their morning coffee.....every day!!! Do you remember the smut you sent me? I'm sure they'd like to have a look at your computer there Victor/Victoria.

I think there may be a few people here though, that would be quite surprised at how long you kept up the April nonsense.

Your credibility is shot. A good faith gesture is in order. Or get lost!

Nighty night.....

[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

You're absolutely delusional. Do you think it helps OWS that you come here and threaten to physically harm people? Violence is never the proper solution.

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3874) 10 years ago

"You're absolutely delusional. Do you think it helps OWS that you come here and threaten to physically harm people? Violence is never the proper solution."

You ARE April. It absolutely matters that people here understand just how far you took the 'April' ruse.

Admit that you are April.

Lets see....a good will gesture could be that you use your real first name, if it is a relatively regular name. You need to provide something to us that grounds you.... and helps to keep you honest. If your real name is 'John'...or should I say 'Jean', and you get booted, you could always sign up again with 'Jean1', or 2, or 3....seeing as I expect you to get booted a lot.

"Federal offense" LOLOL!!! Go take a long walk on a short pier!

[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

One of my "jobs" is to liven this place up.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 10 years ago

Like that horrible prank on DK?

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[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Accept my ideas, not me.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

I'm sorry.

The only thing you've offered so far is pure100% ego.

Distraction from many of the more important threads.

Why is that?

[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

I wrote the most important posting this week: http://occupywallst.org/forum/on-why-this-forum-is-an-utter-failure-and-how-it-c/

Take the time to read it. It's important. For this forum, for Occupy.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

If you really are threshy?

You still owe this site for all the damage you've already done, and are attempting to do again.

PS. That thread is pure 100% ego too, so I still stand by my statement.

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

It's 95% ego, 5% great idea. If damage was done here, it wasn't by me. It was by the clique of 7.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Still in denial, eh?

You just lost any respect I still had for you.

It was thresy and a handful of other bot running, sock puppeteers who ruined this site, no one else.

The fact that they keep coming back to wreck it some more is even worse.

Please take your ego elsewhere.

It's not needed here.

AS my beloved Mother used to say.

You can "go puck a rubber"!

[-] -2 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

I never tried to earn your respect. I'm not like your high-fiving buddies who you exchange twinkles with; DKAtoday, VQkag2... You know, the 7 democrat plants. I'm here for ideas, not twinkles.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

So which one of the puppeteers are you really?

You are not threshy.

So who were you?

C'mon......come clean. It will feel so good.........:)

You have not participated in any thread of ideas.

You have mostly practiced personal attacks.

[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

I published the most important and best posting this week: http://occupywallst.org/forum/on-why-this-forum-is-an-utter-failure-and-how-it-c/

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

The utter failure is you, and your sick ego of course......:)

Go puck a rubber. Putz!

[-] -3 points by electron (-492) 10 years ago

Why do you care about the proposer of an idea more than the idea itself?

I think you are afraid because you know I'm right. You're trying to poison the well because you know that if people tasted the water they would agree with me. Truth frightens you.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

There is no truth in your ego.

None whatsoever.

Come clean as to what puppets you have been, and maybe we can talk.

Until then?

Go puck a rubber.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

lol

there's a category for that