Forum Post: Sheepdog Campaign #FeelTheBern Manager Puts it Out There
Posted 8 years ago on March 18, 2016, 3:57 a.m. EST by turbocharger
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"“Were this contest to end, you know, by Secretary Clinton, or us getting out—certainly if the Secretary were still in the race, she could expect months and months and months of immediate, and vicious, and very personal attacks from the Trump people,” Weaver said. “So I don’t know if that’s necessarily healthy for her.”"
Thats really all you need to hear. Never before have 95% of superdelegates (the fact the Dems have this is disturbing enough) pledged before the elections started. This has been a set up since day one.
Both parties win. Sanders got to expand his brand, and Clinton gets to collect on all of those registrations and emails from the Sanders camp. There will be an endorsement from Sanders at some point, stressing the importance not of voting for a corrupted, Wall St war criminal, but keeping Trump from the whitehouse.
The people will line up and do as they are told as usual.
Welcome to "democracy"..
I am prepared to continue the revolution, win or lose in the nomination fight. I will be paying close attention to anyone close to Bernie who shares his views and has fought along side of him. Maybe Elizabeth Warren gets the benefit of his movement down the road, but Shillary legally accepts bribes. Guess she wants one last hurrah and one more trade agreement. Just remember her flip flop on the bill that credit card companies wanted passed that she voted for after having her husband veto it.
Mx. Cheese deserves to receive the Amerigo Prize in politics, due to her discovery of the outstanding effectiveness of Dark Money, hurled back at "Citizens United" to vote for financial diarrhea, political cesspooling, and governance constipation.
The Ego has landed and found the Vinland native, Virginia, charming.
''Not Giving Up - Fighting 'Till The End''!!!
Bernie on Rachel Maddow's show, 3/17.
Having such a low opinion of your fellow citizens, is probably not the best idea for anyone who espouses ''change'' & who also advocates for the betterment of The 99%.''IF we stand together then there's nothing that we can not do''!!! - and ''Don't stand for the status quo ... when the status quo is broken'', he says in recommended video here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/looks-like-trump-is-the-man/#comment-1070169
multum in parvo ...
"Having such a low opinion of your fellow citizens, is probably not the best idea for anyone who espouses ''change'' "
I agree to a certain extent. That being said, when someone is fucking up, and everyone is still patting them on the back because they don't want them to get better (the media), well, someone better smack em upside the head.
Who is ''fucking up''?! Obomber?!! I hear that but ... bizarrely he may be having his best year (especially from a FP p-o-v) now that the sun is about to set on his Presidency!! There's only one POTUS wannabe who is not in it for themselves but is batting for The 99% & for OWS demands & principles!!! Also fyi ...
caveat ...
The people are the ones fucking up.
There are plenty of real options out there at the ballot box, they simply refuse to give them a shot.
So when it's EVERYONE's fault - then it's NOT really ANYONE's fault!!! The ''people'' have been MSM-Propagandized and Mind Managed; Mis-Educated and fed Horse-Shit & Hubris, to keep them dumbed down so that they can be FARMED by Parasites into being like Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving!! So I am NOT about to throw them under a fkn bus after all that! Here pal - watch this vid. now and shudder ..
Finally, I'm truly curious as to what you actually think about this .. https://berniesanders.com/issues/
ad iudicium et per aspera ad astra ...
Im a proponent of decentralization, because that puts the most power in the people's hands. Me and Sanders dont see eye to eye on lots of stuff because of that.
As far as the people go, when you come to the conclusion that you are to blame, you now have the mental capacity to change. REAL change, not just another election. We dont have that now. Its divide and conquer, always someone elses fault.
So ''Let me tell you something that no other candidate for president will tell you. And that is no matter who is elected to be president, that person will not be able to address the enormous problems facing the working families of our country. They will not be able to succeed because the power of Corporate America, the power of Wall Street, the power of campaign donors is so great that no president alone can stand up to them.
''That is the truth. People may be uncomfortable about hearing it, but that is the reality. And that is why what this campaign is about is saying loudly and clearly: It is not just about elected Bernie Sanders for president, it is about creating a grassroots political movement in this country.'' by Bernie Sanders, from:
You and I both like and respect Gar Alperovitz and his ''organize from below'' theme too, ergo do see ...
http://www.garalperovitz.com/nextamericanrevolution/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGzg2Wflb38 (w/Laura Flanders)
http://wagingnonviolence.org/feature/time-new-political-economic-system-talk-gar-alperovitz/
I TOTALLY agree with ''decentralization'' but, we can not wish The Nation State away! What we must do is .. Reclaim Corporate Duolpoly's demoCRAZY demMOCKERYcy & restore both Democracy AND The Republic ... from The Oligarchy!! This has to be done from below .. but a coalescing movement around a POTUS candidate was nearly as unthinkable as say .. the birth of OWS Itself!!! Ergo - given his platform of OWS 2.0 - I am just not sure how we can totally disassociate OWS from Bernie Sanders at this time.
ad iudicium ...
I will say that what Bernie is doing with young people seems very impressive. Ron Paul did a similar thing in the last election.
With Sanders, Paul and Kucinich all gone now after this election, who do we really have left? Warren, as I predicted, is clearly just another politician. Rand Paul is a total hack.
There is literally no one left. So out of the next crop of losers, who will we appoint as our reasons for supporting them?
Exactly! And ''what Bernie is doing with young people'' ... is empowering, educating and, emancipating!! They will NOT forget what they are learning and will go on to connect with each other and learn a whole lot more ... with a view to making changes locally, nationally and internationally - as they'll begin to see their common interests are NOT served by Oligarchy and - that being zealous for Democracy holds the most hope for changes they can enact!!! I live for this hope - lol & I look to the activated youth and their older comrades to throw up a new and diverse ''leadership'' - as yet unknown or unidentified. We will be supporting - whoever makes the most sense & I also hope for 3rd & 4th Parties.+ Fyi, please consider:
http://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-will-make-the-economy-great-again/ ?! and see:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35539-the-gop-is-now-bragging-about-voter-suppression !! +
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35516-is-the-democratic-party-in-danger-of-losing-the-next-generation-of-voters ?!!!
respice ~ adspice ~ prospice.
People are smarter than you make them out to be. They don't have to be educated. A guy like Bernie just has to offer them what they already want. The same was true of Occupy, a lot of people participated because they liked what Occupy offered. They weren't educated by Occupy, they already knew. It's a bit tiring to hear this rhetoric that people in America are just dumb and they need Sanders and OWS to educate them.
It's not because you didn't know what socialism was before OWS and Sanders that other people come from the same boat of ignorance.
Like a perforated condom .. you're totally useless!!! As ever - you've Nothing to say about any-fkn-thing!!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/sheepdog-campaign-feelthebern-manager-puts-it-out-/#comment-1070488 where the salient link is:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35472-there-s-a-vast-right-wing-conspiracy-afoot-fueled-by-dark-money - by Eleanor J.Bader
Fk off & be tired somewhere else then moron .. IF it is all too much for your ''high end intellect'' here, lol!
nosce te ipsum!
In the true nature of a conspiratard - The only thing that comes from your mind is ad hominem. I suggest some university schooling. Your high school dimplomat just doesn't cut it with the big boys of intellectual thought.
WTF?! Who exactly, are these ''big boys of intellectual thought''?!! What do they have to do with, u?!!!
Now jog on & go read my reply to you here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/sheepdog-campaign-feelthebern-manager-puts-it-out-/#comment-1070500 and then more importantly .. go read this:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35472-there-s-a-vast-right-wing-conspiracy-afoot-fueled-by-dark-money & see if you can formulate an half intelligent reply that's not a reactionary brainfart!
In truth bar ad hominem there's actually very few other ways for me to reply to your ongoing horse-shit.
vale, anguis in herba - et temet nosce!
Right, you believe the person elected as President does not matter because the NWO, the Illuminati, or some Reptilian Overlords are pulling the strings in the background. So who cares if Trump or Sanders makes it? Same diff right. You conspiratards are so tiring...
Your recovery from Jones/Icke lore exposure, has a long way to go! U Fkn Nutjob! Keep dribbling!!!
nosce te ipsum ...
So, you changed your mind. You no longer believe in the NWO and the Illuminati? What about Svali?
Mendacity, hypocrisy and stupidity still your stock in trade then - as you lie and slime again?!!!
You are as laughably irrelevant, as you are a noxious Jones/Icke programmed nutjob!! Numpty!
Furthermore TrashyManque - wtf is going on here .. http://occupywallst.org/forum/is-shadz-the-government-spy-weve-all-been-looking-/ ?!!! Again ... I reject you and your b-s billet-doux!! Dick!
multum in parvo et temet nosce ...
You wild conspiratard. Fantasy boy. What lie?
Are you not a fan of the NWO and Illuminati conspiracy theories?
You deny that now? Not man enough to tell others what you believe in. Embarrassed of you conspiratardism are you?
An ''April Fools'' ONLY applies .. on The 1st of April - cunTboy!!! So, despite your constant foolishness, even you - don't get a license to brainfart your bullshit and then hide behind that date, lol!! Go see your own crap for yourself on the links below, seeing as tho' your head is so far up your own ass - u fkn oaf!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/is-shadz-the-government-spy-weve-all-been-looking-/#comment-1070417 and your b-s, squirming response to me there - as well as ...
Your repeat offence here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-shadz-a-paid-conspiratard-paid-to-soil-this-foru/ & as I said to you before - I reject you ... et tes billets-doux!
You're a mendacious piece of shit & a rancid li'l turd that won't flush and, your entire existence is a lie!!! You are obsessed with Jones/Icke lore & seek to project the same onto others, like the schizoid nutjob that you are!! I've Nothing To ''deny'' and, it'll be a cold day in hell before, I'm "Embarrassed'' by anything from you, lol but IF you've got ANY fkn evidence for your obsessed and obsessive lunacy then lay down the links or simply fk off & accept what a disgusting scumbag you really are! NOW for the key link here:
Deal with the above in your own time & at your own leisure, as you've got li'l else to do, u clueless dick!
et temet nosce ...
I guess you don't understand that April 2nd happens at different times around the world. When I wrote this post, it was still April 1st in my timezone.
Take some classes in mathematics my boy.
Wrong in assertion! Wrong in fact!! Wrong in the fkn head!!! Your totally baseless arrogance and clumsy haughty nature, underpin and undermine your fluent lies, dick!! IF you can even understand what you are trying to say (which I doubt) & given the fact of The International Date Line ... at any given time, you can ONLY be a maximum of 12 hours ahead or behind .. of any assumed time at any given line of longitude!
Ergo - wherever the fk it is that you're claiming you are or were - this forum logged your li'l pissant post { http://occupywallst.org/forum/is-shadz-the-government-spy-weve-all-been-looking-/ } at 3.34 PM EST. So even IF you were not in USA/Canada ... you could ONLY have been posting at a maximum of 0334 local ie. STILL On The 2nd of April, OR - 0343 local on 3rd of April. Thus, it's a FACT that you are a lying fool.
In short TrashyManque' .. there is just no mathematical or temporal way that you did your pissy li'l post on 1st April. Ergo, You Lied - Yet Again!!! The fact that you then went on to do a 2nd Forum-Post in the very same vein - is further indicative of the facts of that first lie and corroboration of your damaged brain!!
Of course - you could still be right, in so far as you may have your own Space/Time continuum going on given where your brain-damaged head is permanently at these days .. namely, very far up your own ass!
Enough of proving what a mendacious bastard you are .. so, what did you make of this http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35472-there-s-a-vast-right-wing-conspiracy-afoot-fueled-by-dark-money did u read it?
I quote it 4U: ''Who really controls American politics? Summoning a wealth of new and historic sources, Jane Mayer lays bare the motives and plans of the Koch brothers and their billionaire allies to advance an extreme libertarian agenda. The San Francisco Chronicle calls Dark Money "packed with revelations and a vital portrait of a nation."
temet nosce et cura te ipsum!
I had no idea at what time my post was posted. I don't post here myself. My secretary takes care of that. It was supposed to be an April 1st post, if she made the error I'll talk to her about it.
For The Standing Record - You Are A Lying Prick! A Despicable Scumbag!! And a OWS/99% Enemy!!!
Your nasty, noxious nature and malevolent, mean-minded, mendacious manipulations .. will destroy u!
multum in parvo et temet nosce ...
Who do you think killed JFK?
His colossal blunder of the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba was likely the cause, I believe.
MLK and Reagan? I'm not sure I heard about those conspiracies. What about them? What are you claiming? Aliens? Reptilian Overlords? Are you saying Reagan is still alive?
You should read this article if you believe the conspiratards:
http://www.theweek.co.uk/55933/who-killed-jfk-52-years-of-enduring-conspiracy-theories
What I think does not matter. What matters is evidence. The evidence points to Lee Harvey Oswald. If you believe it is someone else, then you should provide evidence for your claims.
It's not because conspiratards say he didn't that it's automatically true. Just like it's not necessarily true that the plane above you is spraying chemicals to depopulate America, or that reptilian overlords are living inside hollow earth. You should never believe consispiratards at face value. Always demand evidence.
I suppose you don't believe we landed on the moon, and you believe Michael Jackson and Elvis are still alive - partying somewhere?
How about MLK and Reagan?