Forum Post: WARNING - This Forum Has Been Infested By Conspiratards
Posted 8 years ago on April 11, 2016, 5:22 p.m. EST by fionachuckles
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from Fairview, NJ
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At first, this site was infested by conspiratards. I chased them away. Then it was infested by DKAtoday's Democratic Alliance aka the Twinkle Team, jart chased them away. Now, it seems it has been re-infested by conspiratards.
OWS has always been a honey pot for intellectual low lifes. We must be weary of this. OWS should remain intellectually vigilant, and not fall towards the Alex Jones nonsense garbage thinking of conspiratardism.
OWS must chase after real problems so that it can offer real solutions.
Conspiratardism offers only a world of delusions and sophmoronic teenage unanalytical and irrational "thinking", aka non think. It must be avoided.
There is no Svali.
While we weren't watching, the term ''Conspiracy Theory'' has undergone Orwellian redefinition.
A “conspiracy theory” no longer means an event explained by a conspiracy. Instead, it now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and - that of its media pimps.
For example .. Online News Broadcasts of RT - have been equated with conspiracy theories by the New York Times simply because RT reports news and opinions that the New York Times does not report and the US government does not endorse.
In other words, as truth becomes uncomfortable for Govt.& its Ministry of Propaganda, truth is redefined as "Conspiracy Theory'' - by which is meant an absurd and laughable explanation that we should ignore.
Eg. when piles of carefully researched books, released government documents, and testimony of eye witnesses made it clear that Oswald was not President John F. Kennedy’s assassin, the voluminous research, government documents and verified testimony was dismissed as mere“Conspiracy Theory.”
In other words, the cold, hard truth of the event was unacceptable to the authorities and to the Ministry of Propaganda that represents the interests of the authorities, the Establishment and .. The Oligarchy!
The purest example of how Americans are shielded from truth, is the media’s (including many Internet sites’) response to the large number of professionals who find the official explanation of September 11, 2001 ... inconsistent with everything that they, as experts - know about physics, chemistry, structural engineering, architecture, fires, structural damage, the piloting of airplanes, the security procedures of the United States, NORAD’s capabilities, air traffic control, airport security - and other matters. These experts, numbering in the thousands, have now been shouted down by know-nothings and consensus reality propagandists in The Corporate Media who brand the experts as “Conspiracy Theorists.”
This despite the fact that the official explanation endorsed by the official media is the most extravagant conspiracy theory in human history.
So let’s take a minute to re-acquaint ourselves with the official explanation, which is not regarded as a conspiracy theory despite the fact that it comprises an amazing conspiracy. The official truth is that a handful of young Muslim Arabs who could not fly airplanes, mainly Saudi Arabians - who came neither from Iraq nor from Afghanistan, outwitted not only the CIA and the FBI .. but also all 16 US intelligence agencies and all intelligence agencies of US allies including Israel’s Mossad, which is believed to have penetrated every terrorist organization and which ... carries out assassinations of those whom Mossad marks as terrorists.
So in addition to outwitting every intelligence agency of the United States and its allies, these handful of young Saudi Arabians .. outwitted The National Security Council, the State Department, NORAD, airport security four times in the same hour on the same morning, air traffic control, caused the US Air Force to be unable to launch interceptor aircraft, and caused three well-built steel-structured buildings .. including one NOT hit by an airplane ... to fail suddenly in a few seconds - as a result of limited structural damage and small, short-lived, low-temperature fires that burned on a few floors.
The Saudi terrorists were even able to confound the laws of physics and cause WTC Building Seven to symmetrically collapse at free fall speed for several seconds, a physical impossibility in the absence of explosives used in controlled demolition.
The story that the government and the media have told us amounts to ... a gigantic conspiracy, really a script for a James Bond film. Yet, anyone who doubts this improbable conspiracy theory is defined into irrelevance by the obedient media.
Now anyone who believes an architect or structural engineer, or demolition expert who says that all the videos show that the buildings are blowing up, not falling down, anyone who believes a Ph.D. physicist who says that the official explanation is inconsistent with known laws of physics, anyone who believes expert pilots who testify that non-pilots or poorly-qualified pilots cannot fly airplanes in such maneuvers, anyone who believes the 100 or more first responders who testify that they not only heard explosions in the towers but personally experienced explosions, anyone who believes University of Copenhagen nano-chemist Niels Harrit who reports finding unreacted nano-thermite in dust samples from the WTC towers, anyone who is convinced by experts instead of by propaganda is dismissed as a kook.
So in America today and increasingly throughout the Western world, actual facts and true explanations have been relegated to the realm of kookiness. Only people who believe lies - are socially approved and accepted as patriotic citizens.
Indeed consider, that a writer or newscaster is not even permitted to report the findings of 9/11 skeptics. In other words .. simply to report Professor Harrit’s findings now means that you endorse them or agree with them. Everyone in the US print & TV media knows .. that he/she will be instantly fired if they report Harrit’s findings, even with a laugh. Therefore, although Harrit has now reported his findings on European television and has lectured widely on his findings in Canadian universities .. the very fact that he and The International Scientific Research Team that he led - found unreacted nano-thermite in the WTC dust and have offered samples to other scientists to examine has never been reported in the American media.
The clear unwillingness or inability to entertain any view of 9/11 different from the official view, dooms to impotence many Internet sites that are opposed to the wars and - to the rise of the domestic US police state. These sites, for whatever the reasons, accept the government’s explanation of 9/11; yet, they try to oppose the “War On Terror” & The Police State, which are the direct consequences of accepting the government’s explanation. Alas, trying to oppose the consequences of an event whose explanation you accept is, ipso facto - an almost impossible task.
IF you believe that America was attacked by 19 Muslim terrorists & so is susceptible to future attacks, then a “War On Terror” and a domestic Police State to root out terrorists, becomes necessary to make Americans safe. The idea that a domestic Police State and open-ended war, might be more dangerous threats to Americans than terrorists, is now effectively considered by MSM .. an impermissible thought.
So consider slowly and deeply, that a country whose population has been trained to accept the government’s word and to shun those who question it - is a country without liberty in its future.
I have taken most of these words from .. a Senior Reagan Administration Official; a Journalist with a REAL PhD. in Economics & a very well known blogger .. as they speak my mind & because I'm too "Busy4Bernie" to kick your sorry ass myself - as I'm usually more than happy to do, u rancid fukwit!
The from who's & where's & when's - can remain a ''Conspiracy'' to u TrashyManque', u disgusting, li'l infection!!! IF you lived within 100 miles of me - I'd kick your teeth so far down your throat that you'd be able bite your shite on the way out!! As u've gathered - I do NOT like u very much; never did; never will!
Bet your last cent & penny on it tho' ... on-line .. on this forum .. I will kick your ass from Bali to Canada and back again; West to East and East to West & Pole to Pole, any day if not ever day - as I'll never let you denigrate, despoil or destroy this STILL EXTANT OWS Forum - without a good fight .. you putrid, li'l turd that won't flush! Now for some links {to which I may add later, lol}---
http://www.ae911truth.org/ & re. CONspiracy ... try this & see IF u can come up with a Theory:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/09/wyoming-democratic-caucus-results-sanders-wins-clinton-delegates &
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35472-there-s-a-vast-right-wing-conspiracy-afoot-fueled-by-dark-money ... by Eleanor J. Bader, an excellent ''Truthout - Book Review'' re.''Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right'' (In USA), by Jane Mayer,
Even if my or other replies here ... count as ''attention'' in the miserable, loveless existence that you call ''life'';The Standing Record here won't be victim to your mean-minded mendacity & myriad manipulations.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll & ...
http://occupywallst.org/users/Thrasymaque/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manqu%C3%A9
Caveat - anguis in herba et temet nosce! Vale.
Bad definition and explanation of what are conspiracy theories
You should not link to Truthard crap sites. That is not permitted on this forum.
Correction = infested by "a" ("a" being used in this instance as a singular designation) conspiratard. The infestation being u.
I thought this dude never even lived in the US? Why the obsession of a US based movement?
In academia, he might have been denied admission/job/tenure by a U.S. college or university.
US politics is important to everyone in the world because it impacts everyone in the world. US are very active in foreign affairs. Perhaps you had not realized that countries around the world are not actually completely sheltered and apart from each other. What happens directly in US affects me directly. Some things for me will change whether Bernie Sanders is elected versus Trump.
I guess this is a hard concept to grasp.
Even if it did not affect me, just being interested in things outside you country should not be hard to understand.
Are you only interested in US matters? You aren't interested in what happens in the rest of the world?
If you are saying conspiratardism is a US based movement, perhaps, but it does affect me a great deal.
If you are talking about Occupy, then I'll surprise you by saying it was actually a world wide movement. there were occupy camps in many different countries my friend.
What do you see changing if Bernie is elected? Also, what country do you live in?
If Bernie is elected, hard to tell. In all honesty, probably not much. America is capitalist and right wing at its core. Didn't Hillary try to get national health care going back in the 80s, and no one wanted it?
"If Bernie is elected, hard to tell. In all honesty, probably not much. "
Ok, so whats the bitch then?
Who's bitching? My hope is Bernie can get elected and change things. Realistically, though, that is very difficult to accomplish. Very hard to get elected, very hard to affect change. Socialism is just a bit foreign to American way of thinking. It seems natural in many parts of the world, but American's just don't help each other out instinctively. Instinctively, they live as individuals.
jart is a good example of this. When she had nothing, she went for socialism. To get help from friends, etc... gave her a good platform to make a website and other code for her CV. Then she made her move and got a job at Google and all the 'let's help each other stuff' went out the window.
How will what happens directly in US affect you directly? What things for you will change whether Bernie Sanders is elected versus Trump?
Our ancestors and we have already gone to the other end of the Earth and put the greatest moat of oceans possible around us to insulate from the depravities, squalors, squabbles, inequities, etc. of the Old World. We intend to tread lightly, if possible, on the Old World so speak up about how we can get closer to our objective.
This post is by long time troll, Thrasymaque, who is obsessed with Occupy Wall Street. He has many monikers from being banned hundreds of times.
Some call me the Man of a Million Monikers...
Dude, it's not a compliment!
intellectual low life = You
Therapeutic beds on sale again. With special nude friendly bedding.
low life = You
There really is nothing genuinely intellectual about u.
It seems fibromyalgia is completely in the mind. Made up. Something about wanting to play the victim so badly, that your mind creates imaginary pains.
low life garbage = You
It's the latest research I read. I too, have that sickness. That is why I have so much time to be here, and how I was able to educate myself so profoundly. I spend my days in bed. Anyways, if we can both change the way we think, the way our mind tricks us, perhaps we can be well again.
U R So faux
Writing like that 14-year old teenage SMS girl again? When you get angry, you write like a lost child.
U R So faux = not genuine; fake or false
You just learned the definition of faux or something, so you expect others not to know it?
You just learned the definition of faux or something, so you expect others not to know it?
I expect U not 2 know it as you u r a faux individual.
That seems quite illogical. What does knowing words have to do with being a certain way. You make little sense. Oh Dan, you bad moderator you.
U R a Faux intellectual but U R a genuine Idiot.
You turn your head for help. No family, no friends. Just you in a therapeutic bed and this forum.... Your universe.
Ur 1 faulty & misfiring synapse get stuck on repeat?
You turn your head for help. shooz is gone. No more boyfriend. Twinkle Team destroyed. Laid to rest... It's just you Dan, and your childish SMS style.
utsa matta - u so silent 4 so long now - did u burn out ur single faulty synapse? (one could hope)
Tryin 2 reassure urself? Cause u ain't causin me no grief.
Your sickness has made your brain weak. You write like a child. A lonely lost child, naked, in his therapeutic bed.
Tis is t part where u r looking in2 t mirror & wondring where u went so wrong - RIGHT ?
Obviously you care if you keep replying with your moronic writing style. Makes you look like a goof. A naked goof in a therapeutic bed.
& tere u r still livn ur fantasy - yep no real people required
Why do you write like a 14-year old girl using SMS when you get angry?
No anger - 2 b angry - 1st I would have 2 care bout what u think - & I don't.
Now C what U can do wit 140 total characters (including spaces) on twitter.