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Posted 1 year ago on April 6, 2016, 9:22 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ
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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yes, Bernie Sanders Will Become President. Hillary Clinton’s FBI Investigation Isn’t a ‘Nothingburger’ 04/19/2016 10:18 am ET 3 K

  • H. A. Goodman Columnist published in The Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Baltimore Sun, The Hill, Salon, The Jerusalem Post www.hagoodman.com

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Perhaps the greatest compliment paid to me recently was from a Boston Globe columnist who remarked that I must really be Andy Kaufman. It’s a compliment, first because Kaufman was a genius, and also because his genius rested in the absurd; almost like voting for a presidential candidate being investigated by the FBI. In 2016, the most qualified candidate according to smart Democratic strategists holds negative favorability ratings in every single national poll. In 8 out of 10 national polls, Hillary Clinton’s favorability ratings are negative by 15 points or more. According to recent CBS and NBS/WSJ polls, Clinton holds negative favorability ratings by 23 and 24 point margins, respectively. A progressive said to “get things done” won’t be able to win the White House with such negative national ratings.

In contrast, Bernie Sanders is the only leading candidate with positive favorability ratings, and this has nothing to do with Clinton being more “vetted.” Bernie doesn’t need private servers and speaks to millions of people in open forums; Clinton is the antithesis of Vermont’s Senator. It’s not that people don’t know about Bernie’s controversies, it’s that he simply doesn’t have a penchant for controversy like his competitor. Unlike Clinton, Bernie Sanders can type an email without the FBI interviewing him or his associates.

Furthermore, I explain in my latest CNN International appearance that Sanders is the best chance to defeat Trump, especially since Clinton could face DOJ indictment. I also discuss on CNN New Day that Clinton’s white privilege allows her to circumvent almost any scandal, even issues that Bernie Sanders couldn’t survive politically.

In terms of stark contrasts between Clinton and Sanders, you couldn’t find a greater example of two candidates who epitomize opposing value systems. While Bernie Sanders has electrified millions of voters by simply focusing on progressive ideals, Hillary Clinton can’t even disclose a speech transcript, or hold a fundraising event without static noise machines.

I explain why Clinton can’t disclose Wall Street speech transcripts in the following YouTube segment. In addition, I urge all my critics within the Democratic establishment to subscribe to my YouTube channel for comedy relief, because the fun it just beginning. Imagine the laughter after the FBI formally interviews Clinton and her top aides, and finally discloses the evidence found during a year-long investigation.

It’s an honor to be viewed as Andy Kaufman by people who think Clinton is qualified to become president, in this bizarre world where glaring weaknesses are seen as strengths, and overt lies are viewed as simply smart politics. No doubt, when Clinton’s national favorability rating soars from its current 56% to perhaps 70%, after the FBI formally discloses its findings (with or without indictments, the media firestorm will hurt favorability numbers), my thoughts might be viewed as less amusing by devout Hillary supporters.

The smartest people in the room, the same pragmatists who’ve completely forgotten about the horrors of Iraq and Afghanistan, are also saying Hillary Clinton is not only qualified to run this country, but also that the FBI isn’t serious in their year-long investigation. The great Charles Pierce of Esquire calls it a “nothingburger,” and although he’s a wonderful writer, I doubt he’d be as nonchalant if he were the subject of a year-long FBI investigation. I just hope that the illustrious TBOGG from Raw Story, a person who relished in bending the truth regarding my writing (especially my supposed “love” for a certain Republican, something that isn’t at all true), will write a piece correlating FBI investigations and presidential qualifications.

All these savvy and astute political pundits apparently know the meaning of pragmatism, yet they’d never vote for a Republican with Clinton’s record on foreign policy, Wall Street ties, and inability to perform a speech or type an email without scandal. Of course, when you’re more interested in money generated for “down-ticket Democrats” than being correct on Iraq, or opposing the TPP and Keystone XL, then allegiance to a political party overshadows principle.

When you hear pundits critiquing Bernie Sanders for not helping “down-ticket Democrats,” simply watch my YouTube segment presenting the case for writing-in Bernie, if Clinton is the nominee. After two major wars, bailouts for banks that wrecked the economy, and racist campaign tactics (Clinton’s 3 a. m. ad, for example), voters have far greater concerns than loyalty to a political party. Democrats owe allegiance to voters, not the other way around, and Bernie Sanders has single-handedly altered this dynamic.

Nevertheless, Clinton and her top aides are scheduled to be interviewed soon, according to The Los Angeles Times in a piece titled Clinton email probe enters new phase as FBI interviews loom:

  • Feral prosecutors investigating the possible mishandling of classified materials on Hillary Clinton’s private email server have begun the process of setting up formal interviews with some of her longtime and closest aides, according to two people familiar with the probe, an indication that the inquiry is moving into its final phases...

    No dates have been set for questioning the advisors, but a federal prosecutor in recent weeks has called their lawyers to alert them that he would soon be doing so, the sources said. Prosecutors also are expected to seek an interview with Clinton herself, though the timing remains unclear...

    The meetings also are an indication that much of the investigators’ background work - recovering deleted emails, understanding how the server operated and determining whether it was breached - is nearing completion.

    “The interviews are critical to understand the volume of information they have accumulated,” said James McJunkin, former head of the FBI’s Washington field office.

If any other politician in American history were interviewed by the FBI, before an election, would you vote for this person?

This FBI email investigation is serious, it’s not a joke, and I explain in this YouTube segment why the FBI’s reputation is at stake, and in this YouTube segment how Clinton views the FBI. It will likely derail Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and ensure that humble pie and other less appetizing fare be served alongside the “nothingburger” establishment Democrats have consumed thus far.

Bernie Sanders currently defeats Republican challengers by a wider margin than Hillary Clinton. New York and the remaining primaries will help usher Bernie into the White House, but Clinton’s FBI email investigation will force the DNC to rally behind Sanders. The establishment will concede, since Bernie Sanders is the only hope for Democrats after the FBI either recommends indictment, or highlights Clinton’s “carelessness.”

As a testament to the new definitions of “qualification” and “pragmatism,” President Obama is quoted by CBS News addressing Clinton’s “carelessness”:

  • But, he added, “what I’ve also said is that — and she has acknowledged — that there’s a carelessness, in terms of managing e-mails, that she has owned, and she recognizes.”

    The use of a private email server by the former secretary of state is currently under investigation by the FBI.

    Earlier this year, the State Department said it had found 22 emails on Clinton’s homebrewed server that had to be upgraded to “Top Secret,” the highest level of classification. Those top secret documents were withheld from being publicly released along with the rest of her emails.

With 22 Top Secret emails on a private server, in the basement of a private residence, “carelessness” is perhaps the best word to describe this fiasco.

Hillary Clinton is now only 1.4 points ahead of Bernie Sanders according to Real Clear Politics national Democratic Primary polls, and I predicted this in a polling trajectory article last September. With 1,045 delegates won, I also foreshadowed in numerous articles that Bernie would be battling this far into the primary. Nobody gave Sanders a chance, and while H. A. Goodman might have been overzealous in some predictions, be sure to read those articles. They contain information on why such predictions were made, and I’ve been right on more things than most other observers.

Last year, Clinton stated “I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed by the State Department, because I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two.” If you think the FBI will believe this excuse, then thing again. Ultimately, the FBI’s year-long investigation into Clinton’s emails will hand Bernie Sanders the Democratic nomination and White House, and I’m one of the few progressives today stating this glaring reality. Follow H. A. Goodman on Twitter: www.twitter.com/HAGOODMANAUTHOR

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1756) 1 year ago

If the duopoly hasn't gotten any war crimes on its hands yet, its certainly got a server issue under control.

Who wants to be the one to go after the Clintons/Bushs and end up missing or committing suicide?

Not me.

[-] 2 points by Viking (417) 1 year ago

The two-tier justice system is firmly in place. I wish I did not share your cynical outlook.

You can tell by the daily news coverage ...that we are being prepped and manipulated even more... the voting crimes that took place in NYC against Sanders are being trivialized.... and that Sanders is being written off... and unlike in past primaries, Hillary's lead is steadfast in next week's primaries... And hence her coronation as President is inevitable as she has suddenly become the insurmountable favorite. I hope I'm wrong.

It's so sad to think that our country has devolved so far. I read this open letter afterward.... I'm not sure how I feel about him making a move now though, as Sanders has a pedestal to continue to show how corrupt the system is, and to voice his and his supporter's anger.

Switch Now! An Open Letter To Bernie Sanders

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/21/switch-now-an-open-letter-to-bernie-sanders/

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 1 year ago

Honestly I think the most terrifying aspect of this all is that its always been like this. Theres just so much propaganda slathered over it all that who can possibly keep track of it.

[-] 1 points by Viking (417) 1 year ago

You're probably right, "..it's always been like this." What's different is how many more people realize the faster rate, and the deleterious consequences we will face as we slink towards fascism. Our choices, 1. Fight back, 2. Become servile to it, 3. Be a player in it, or 4. Buy a cabin in the woods, off the grid, become independent and try to ignore it as best as you can.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

@SenSanders @elizabethforma Closed Primaries R Exactly Y Bernie can't drop out http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-condemns-closed-primaries-facing-week/story?id=38597392 … millions of supporters couldn't vote https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/723691453474459649

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

@HillaryClinton @SenSanders @elizabethforma

Looking 4 a Bernie landslide 4/19/2016

http://occupywallst.org/forum/new-york-now-is-your-time-to-do-what-you-did-in-20/#comment-1070732

He "is" pushing t peoples agenda!

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/722218925262565377

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Build a true democracy of the people by the people for the people - let no one exclude any portion of the population!

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=zqEdL0aeuAmb9V1xEfyWR4OfUD6uDVaa

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

List of Super Delegates : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016#List … t public needs 2 know = status quo or change

As Bernie rightfully states = He can't do it alone

So - take a look at the list in the link - it should give you some insight as to who is for needed change and who is supporting the current status quo of cater to the wealthy few.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

It was a rough one.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[EDIT] Yes it was - however I liked at the end how the crowd was cheering Bernie Bernie Bernie Bernie after his closing statement and sHillary had to wait for them (with a sour look on her face) to quiet down before she could give hers.

EDIT-> I also liked the way sHillary got booed several times by a large portion of the crowd.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Bernie Sanders Live in NYC, 8:45pm EST, Wed.13th, April:

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

damn shadz is Bernie going to make a dem out of you, or are you that sure he will lose, and before you ask me too much check out my twitter feed, https://twitter.com/factsrfun

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Bernie ''make a dem of'' me?! Nope ... BUT he could drag Dems back to their true 99%, FDR roots and make Real Dems of 'em lol, !! There are layers of ''winning'' that I can relate to & IF he is made to ''lose'' by DNC/ DWS / HRC-machine - I will be backing a 3rd Party Independent Run .. AND the very same to tRUMP .. when The RNC gerrymander him out!!! Bernie wins a 2 way or 3 way OR 4 way, imo AND it'd deal a final deathblow to The Duopoly!!!! I'll follow you on Twitter later. THE BATTLE OF NY ... IS ON ;-)

ad iudicium ...

[-] -2 points by fionachuckles (-375) from Fairview, NJ 1 year ago

I was there. Good stuff. Bernie is da man! He's also anti-conspiratardism, which I like very much. A healthy sane leftist.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Re.OWS and Bernie, an MSM source for your CONservative ass .. you CONcern troll; CON-Troll Freak:

The only place that we can believe u were, when u say: "I was there" - is up your ass - you troll nutjob!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

is it odin?

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

WhoTF are you talking about?! Fknchuckles?!! Nope - ''it'' is that sick Resident Forum Crypto-Fascist, TrashyManque' .. still trying to infect the forum with his reactionary horse-shit and reflexive brainfarts!!!

ad iudicium ...

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[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

yeah I saw where it was Trashy in another post, didn't deal with him much back in early days if you recall I was kind of mean back then...

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''30 years of wage stagnation followed by one wealth-eviscerating asset bubble after another has drained the optimism from the collective American psyche. Most people now think things are going to get worse for themselves and their children. This pervasive pessimism shows up in other surveys as well, like this recent Gallup poll in which the sample-group was asked, “In general, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time?”

''You’d think that would be a slam-dunk for President Obama who never misses a chance to boast about his great economic recovery. But the fact is, 71 percent of the people said they were dissatisfied with the way things are going. Only 27 percent said they’re satisfied. That’s not just a knock on Obama, it’s also a powerful statement about the abysmal condition economy. The vast majority of people are clearly frustrated that they can’t get ahead because the economy isn’t improving. At the same time, they can’t help but notice that more and more of the nation’s wealth is being shifted to the people who least need it, the 1 percent elites at the top.'' - from:

A really interesting short article, that I'm recommending to you & lol re. ''kind of mean''! YOU?!! No way!!!

Bernie Sanders is the only viable & immediately available possibility - to all the points the article makes!

fiat lux ...

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I am planing a visit to "PieintheSky" land where they go to the doctor without their wallets, I wonder what wonders I will see, will they have three heads or four arms, there is no limit as to what can happen in such an incredible place, it's called "England".

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''New Yorkers File Emergency Lawsuit To Give Voting Rights Back To 3.2 Million People'', by Kira Lerner & Emily Atkin

There is an ongoing struggle going on in ''PieInTheSkyLand" against Psychopathic Neoliberal Austerity and Privatization & Junior Doctors in NHS are fighting hard to stop creeping privatization. All that aside - I recommend the article above BUT beware apoplexy of righteous indignation - at yet more evidence of Voter Suppression in U$A! Repugnants wrote the book on VS!! BUT DNC / DWS & HRC are using it!!!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...


EDIT: Also fyi re. WTF is going on with The Corrupted Democracy in U$A, do try to peruse this forum ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4bq3no/urgent_people_in_ny_pa_and_md_are_reporting_that/

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Voter Suppression in NY?! It is now 3pm in NYC as I type this .. but there's been problems since 7am!!

So ... just WTF is actually going on in U$A's demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy and who'll ask the qstns?!!!

e tenebris ...


EDIT: Re.more evidence of corruption of democracy http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/19/1517634/--Democratic-Voters-in-Brooklyn-Fell-by-120-000-from-November-2015-to-April-2016-Without-Explanation

[-] 1 points by Viking (417) 1 year ago

Inscribed on top of the arch in Washington Square Park where Sanders spoke, "Let the wise and honest repair. The rest is in the hands of God." We all might not agree with all of that, but there are a lot of good people whose voices are beginning to be heard.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Big day tomorrow

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Let us hope that we will not see voter suppression like we saw in Arizona! Looking for a Bernie Landslide - in NY the birthplace of the national OWS movement!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

New York's strict voter registration rules frustrate Sanders supporters http://gu.com/p/4tf67/stw New York = Disenfranchising t Population! https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/722513745403125760

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

NY disenfranchisement: True democracy = party affiliation not required! Vote choice not party!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

@SenSanders @elizabethforma @HillaryClinton

Manipulation:

Cut 2 t chase.

If HRC wins NY tonight How much of that was caused by denied votes?

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/722590841559216128

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I am still REALLY bothered by Arizona!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

@SenSanders @elizabethforma @HillaryClinton

HRC u would not have won NY without the denied votes!

Probably not Arizona either!

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/722605943872217088

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

They are passing some laws to make more polling places, too late, and it looks like NY may have sealed it 7 more days then we will see.

[-] 1 points by Viking (417) 1 year ago

Yes, it is a "big day.". Washington Square Park, where Sanders had one of his big rallies last week is also where some of the first well attended Occupy rallies took place. None of them drew anywhere near the 28,000 plus that Sanders had though... Many people streaming in were turned away by the police blocks before at his rally at 7:30 (maybe earlier), before he spoke. The police, working with the Secret Service telling them the rally was closed. In fairness, it was probably done for security reasons.

That park has historic significance as well, and it amazingly parallels with what is happening today. One woman, named Frances Perkins ran across that park in 1911, witnessing the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire tragedy. Over 140 people perished. That was a turning point as those employees had been lobbying for better working conditions. People had an epiphany in realizing the economy was answering to the oligarchs, and not the people, as many more people realize now. They as many other people benefited when worker protection laws were passed. And Ms Perkins became known as The Woman Behind The New Deal when years later Roosevelt appointed her the first woman cabinet minister, Secretary of Labor.

In later years, she said the New Deal began on the day of that tragedy in March, 1911.

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[-] 1 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

Remember Tuesday 9/11/2001. Both major parties let us down - three thousands of us were murdered and seen on TVs worldwide. Can men and women fly like love birds? New Yorkers certainly tried but couldn't stick the landings in the "thorny bushes under the double schlongs of Berlusconi."

Up to this day, we still haven't got a hopefully-full accounting that had already been paid for. World Trade Center bombing occurred in 1993, a full eight years before 9/11/2001, and some twenty three years ago. Where's the beef?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

'93 bombers were put in jail, the Cole was attacked in the fall of 2000 and info was handed to the new President to bring down the network, he didn't and the WTC came down, any questions?

[-] 1 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

Who was responsible for responding to al-Qaeda's declaration of war on Americans, military or civilian? Was anyone in the U.S. governments allowed to watch ABC News Nightline or was it disallowed?

If the U.S. always knew quickly after an attack who had done it, why didn't it prevent each attack? Was it to prove how lightning fast our intelligence agencies are after each attack? Or to justify why they need even faster computers, more personnel, and to scoop up even more electronic communication data worldwide, including from the homeland?

Who goofed up? Did the Clintons' and the Bushes' "business relationships" hamper or suppress any proper response possible? Why was al-Qaeda trying to kill American civilian citizens?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I can see you're confused, shocked I expect by the simple truth, I think you can answer many of those questions yourself with a little thought.

[-] 2 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

Do you believe in the Freudian slip here: http://www.businessinsider.com/nrol-39-logo-foia-2014-7 ? It shows the mindset of the intelligence agencies. Expanding memory capacity without intelligent analysts who can connect ideas has been proven useless again and again.

People say that our smart phones have many orders of magnitude bigger memory capacity and faster processing power than the computer used for the lunar landing of Apollo 11 on July 20th, 1969. Can our average Joe or Jill with the smart phones land the Eagle on Tranquillity Base without crashing? No way! Buzz Aldrin made the success possible despite the computer's shortcomings.

Truth is only simple to small-capacity minds. People and governments have strong tendencies to cover up unpleasant truths.

Show me a causality hedge diagram with descriptions of the nodes and links. Who, what, when, where, how, why?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

knowledge of the events in question is widely available, understanding comes from within

[-] 2 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

From New York Times: "The Obama administration has lobbied Congress to block the [9/11] bill's passage, according to administration officials and congressional aides from both parties".

"John Kirby, a State Department spokesman, said in a statement that the administration stands by the victims of terrorism, 'especially those who suffered and sacrificed so much on 9/11.'"

This is hypocrisy on display, isn't it? Obama administration wants to block 9/11 victims and families from suing Saudi Arabia for terrorism on U.S. soil and that is what State Department calls "stand[ing] by the victims of terrorism".

As law enforcement often says, "If you're innocent, you wouldn't mind being searched." It'd just be applying the same standard to terrorism committed on U.S. soil, no different from our P.A.T.R.I.O.T. act's searches. Saudi Arabia has nothing to fear if it has nothing to hide. Remember that even the Gitmo detainees' lawyers tried to have their terrorism cases tried in U.S. courts. American justice enjoys good reputation even amongst accused terrorists. Saudi Arabia has nothing to hide (except its treasuries investment perhaps) and therefore nothing to fear.

Shouldn't this matter of suing Saudi Arabia for terrorism on U.S. soil have already come up since Hillary Clinton has been the U.S. Senator from New York? What did she do?

[-] 4 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

The Saudi threats are toothless and we should allow the suits.

[-] 2 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

The Saudis whose currency is linked to the U.S. dollar would cause themselves major problems if they should pull the trigger and successfully hit the dollar which they should be possessing a lot of at that time. China was in a similar position and had actually done that to save its own economy. It turned out just fine for every party involved because other countries gobbled up the liquidation very well since the U.S. economy was the only developed economy doing well and its interest rates were rising in addition to the dollar becoming stronger. Timing is most important.

The U.S. has not embarked on imposing negative interest rates yet so Saudis' threat may well be for nothing (aside from expressing the gravitas with which the Saudis view the potential 9/11 lawsuits and the very telling concurrence of the U.S. government fearing the potential lawsuits and seizures of U.S. national overseas [corporate, individual, and military personnels'] assets by numerous countries whose peoples have suffered under U.S. wars galore).

New York can bite, whether it's this one or that one winning in the coming general election because they are all linked to New York. We already have a Goldman-Sachs presidency from between East Harlem and the Upper East Side. Whether by hook, crook, both, or none, the next administration will be a "New Yorker's."

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

They threaten to sell, there must buyers, if not, prices fall, at some point buyers arrive, when they do the seller loses and the buyer wins.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

The prices fall only if the Saudis become motivated sellers who they eventually must be if they continue at their current spending rate. However, the U.S. treasuries market is so deep and liquid that orderly liquidations by the Saudis will probably not depress the prices much. Besides, the Saudis have years worth of reserves as well as the credit to borrow much more. The only reason that the Saudis will hastily liquidate is that they feel very much being potentially liable for 9/11.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

That is their threat, market reaction is the protection.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

Actually, market reaction from their dumping of their assets is their threat which is exactly our protection. If prices go down much, they will see the value of their U.S. dollars fall. If prices don't do much, hohum, it'll be a dud. It's as if they were picking up a rock to hit at the ants crawling around their feet in a threatening manner.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

macro micro layers within layers

sometimes I miss Matt

(Do you want me to explain or like with Matt is it more fun to think it through?)

[-] 1 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

Oh yes, where's Matt now? I have never thought that I would actually be pressing for "NO WAR" which he very single-mindedly pursued. I thought of him as being a bit naïve due to the many linkages to (and vulnerabilities arising from) oil that I saw. It would amount to unilateral disarming if the U.S. were not to protect its corporate overseas oil interest, so I thought. It seems that I've actually become more naïve over time and it's a good thing!

You explain. For me, fracking, electric cars, natural-gas trucks, higher mandated mileage requirement, and the breakthrough in the efficiency of sunlit algae to grow biodiesel all tipped the balance. Human blood traded for industrial-transportation blood may no longer be as necessary.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Actually, market reaction from their dumping of their assets

Saudi Arabia and oil prices?

If so - The Saudi's if you have noticed - have dropped oil prices so much that we see prices at the pump for gasoline drop below $3.00 a gallon. Y would they do this? To fight back against a future loss of business if fracking exports take away some of there currently captive market. Low oil prices makes fracking to expensive to be profitable.

Funny that - hey?

[-] 2 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

By "assets," I meant the Saudis' holding of our U.S. treasury securities as well as their other financial and real asets in U.S. control.

As for Saudi oil being sold cheap, that was mostly due to market mechanisms such as the large volume of fracked U.S. oil coming to market, the threat of and release of Iranian oil coming out from the relief of sanctions, etc. It was good for knocking at Russia for annexing Crimea and meddling in Ukraine as well as shutting down North American fracking operations. Oil's primacy in the future was in doubt.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

More reason to divest from fossil fuel - end foreign policy to defend fossil fuel at any and all cost!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

the permafrost is melting and so is Greenland check this out lots of good links in this too

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/when-will-the-world-really-be-2-degrees-hotter-than-it-used-to-be/

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

More reason why we really can't afford sHillary Fracking Clinton to be president or any GOPer. We gotta seal all of those well heads - damn things are gushing methane into the atmosphere the abandoned ones as well as the ones in current operation. Thawing tundra will add tons more methane.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I am thinking of the transition, we are maybe 6 or a dozen here, no one in the park, at one time 10's of thousands of "hits' a day. I wonder if FeelTheBern will do what none have done before and live on.

[-] 4 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Bernie has done much to validate OWS and it's supporters - his campaign for the people embodies much of what OWS protested about nation wide and not because OWS had protested - his campaign platform is composed of things he has been trying to forward for decades. I do not know how many people look in on this site anymore but OWS is still alive. Bernie would have won NY if those OWS people had registered as dems back in October of last year - many showed up in support during his NY appearances but I bet even if they had decided to vote - that they didn't figure they would need to register as a dem last year to do so.

Right now Bernie's chances do not look good but anything is still possible at this point in time.

It is why I am trying to get across to the DNC that I won't vote for HRC under any circumstances and that many other Bernie supporters will not either. They gotta take a real hard look at themselves and wonder if they can really win without Bernie's supporters.

In my opinion HRC on the ticket is a win for the GOP whether she wins or not - the GOP and t wealthy few wins either way.

[-] 2 points by Viking (417) 1 year ago

I agree. Well put. It's Bernie or Bust for me!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8844) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

A few more days and we will know, I am trying to step away from the horse race, there is little chance wealth inequality will be addressed and it is already at historic levels, the debt and therefore retirement accounts will be better under Dems it always is but wealth inequality has not been dealt with by anyone and thus it is so high. Given what is happening this year in CO2 levels i feel things are changing quickly, however it will be at least 40 yrs before the affects of today's releases are felt.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yep - a few more days

I wonder if Bernie has a secondary plan of action.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3024) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 1 year ago

I am not excited for Hillary. She doesn't represent my positions for health care and college tuition, and for the environment.

I think many aren't energized by her positions, and her ties to Wall Street. The people of USA don't want same ol establishment, after 08 people have not recovered as has 1 per centers. I'm not feeling it for clinton's direction.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

sHillary one of the wealthy few catering to the wealthy few.

No - we really can't afford to go down that road any longer.

She is for fracking and for the KXL and the TPP and for Wall Street and for for profit health insurance and for for profit health services etc etc etc - her lip service stealing of Bernie's platform - is - just that = lip service for public support/votes.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4987) 1 year ago

Goldman-Sachs has no need to abide by any term limit. Who in New York cut the rotten manicotti while calling our globalized world's helpline?

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