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Forum Post: Amerika: Neither Land of the Free Nor Home of the Brave

Posted 11 years ago on June 5, 2012, 1:24 p.m. EST by vvv0605 (0)
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Bushbamney Amerika

If you are charged with a crime in Amerika, you are guilty unless you are rich. If you are struck by a drone from Amerika, you are guilty unless you survive.

AMERIKA: NEITHER LAND OF THE FREE NOR HOME OF THE BRAVE

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe

As things stand, when corporate fascist puppet president Bushbamney signs NDAA 2013 (H.R. 4310, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013), bipartisan-sponsored Amendment 114 (based on H.R. 5736) will make it legal for the U.S. government to use Nazi Germany Goebbels-style "Big Lie" propaganda on its own citizens. And no doubt one of the biggest lies our ruling elite's Demopublican operatives will continue selling us is that America is "the land of the free and the home of the brave". That may have been somewhat accurate at some point in in our checkered past, but it's certainly not true in today's post-NDAA 2012 (Public Law 112-81) Fourth Reich "Amerika".

LAND OF THE FREE?

How can Amerika be the land of the free when we have more laws on the books - and more people in prison for allegedly breaking them - than any other nation in the world?

Doubt that? Read this:

"So which country has the most laws regulating its citizenry? After looking high and low I discovered that the country with the most laws - not just today, but in all of history is... the United States. We not only have the most laws in all of history, but we also turn out more new laws and regulations to manage our people every single year than most countries turn out in decades.

http://tinyurl.com/7xp4l6f

"These new laws have come with an infusion of money into an expanded security system on the state and federal levels, including more public surveillance cameras, tens of thousands of security personnel and a massive expansion of a terrorist-chasing bureaucracy."

http://tinyurl.com/88sq98d

"Half of the world's prison population of about nine million is held in the US, China or Russia. Prison rates in the US are the world's highest, at 724 people per 100,000."

http://tinyurl.com/zkw7v

"Incarceration in the United States is one of the main forms of punishment and/or rehabilitation for the commission of felony and other offenses. The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009 it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population. According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) 2,266,800 adults were incarcerated in U.S. federal and state prisons, and county jails at year-end 2010 - about 0.7% of adults in the U.S. resident population. Additionally, 4,933,667 adults at year-end 2009 were on probation or on parole."

http://tinyurl.com/6m7dr6

HOME OF THE BRAVE?

How can Amerika be the home of the brave when our cowardly and illegal drone attacks are killing thousands of innocent civilians - many falsely counted as "combatants", "militants" or "terrorists" - while at the same time more of our troops commit suicide every year than get killed in action?

Doubt that? Read this:

"Drones raise questions about the growing disconnect between the American public and its wars. Military ethicists concede that drones can turn war into a video game and, with no Americans directly at risk, more easily draw the United States into conflicts... The number of civilian deaths caused by drone strikes is unclear, and hotly contested. A report in February 2012 by the London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism said that drone strikes on suspected militants in Pakistan have repeatedly targeted rescuers who responded to the scene of a strike, as well as mourners at subsequent funerals."

http://tinyurl.com/kqtjwl

In Pakistan (an American "ally") alone, through mid-August last year as many as 2,956 people were killed and another 1,158 injured by U.S. drone attacks. Many were labelled "militants", but the death toll includes at least 175 children and as many as 781 verified civilians. Despite all this collateral damage, no more than 150 "named militants" were killed. And again, these statistics are for Pakistan alone. How many more innocent children, women and men have Bushbamney's immoral drone strikes murdered in Afghanistan, the Middle East, Africa and elsewhere?

http://tinyurl.com/3es3tez

"Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent."

http://tinyurl.com/6mpvawo

"From 2005 to 2010, [U.S.] service members took their own lives at a rate of approximately one every 36 hours. While suicides in the Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard have been relatively stable and lower than those of the ground forces, U.S. Army suicides have climbed steadily since 2004. The Army reported a record-high number of suicides in July 2011 with the deaths of 33 active and reserve component service members reported as suicides. Suicides in the Marine Corps increased steadily from 2006 to 2009, dipping slightly in 2010. It is impossible, given the paucity of current data, to determine the suicide rate among veterans with any accuracy. However, the VA estimates that a veteran dies by suicide every 80 minutes. Moreover, although only 1 percent of Americans have served in the military, former service members represent 20 percent of suicides in the United States."

http://tinyurl.com/3stynxb

"For the second year (2010) in a row, more US soldiers killed themselves (468) than died in combat (462). 'If you... know the one thing that causes people to commit suicide, please let us know,' General Peter Chiarelli told the Army Times, 'because we don't know.' Suicide is a tragic but predictable human reaction to being asked to kill - and watch your friends be killed - particularly when it's for a war based on lies."

http://tinyurl.com/6zdf6cy


NO MORE LEFT. NO MORE RIGHT. TIME TO UNITE. STAND AND FIGHT!

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[-] 3 points by Puzzlin (2898) 11 years ago

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe


I thought that quote was worth repeating. Also, we should ask ourselves this question often as we go about our normal everyday lives. We should then soon realize how much our perception affects how we "think" the world is.

Nobody is ever that smart, and the answers will come, we will know them when we see them. We just haven't gotten enough to pull ourselves out of the muck we're in yet. Patience.

Waking Up has it consequences.

The Puzzler

[-] 3 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html

[-] 2 points by brightonsage (4494) 11 years ago

The same goes for you. See above. You may have a point and you may not. Pay your dues.

[-] 3 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago
[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 years ago
[-] 2 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 11 years ago

Drones raise questions about the growing disconnect between the American public and its wars. Military ethicists concede that drones can turn war into a video game and, with no Americans directly at risk, more easily draw the United States into conflicts.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/u/unmanned_aerial_vehicles/index.html

[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

More anti democrat pro 1% propaganda

[-] 2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

So now a news story from the New York Times is "More anti democrat pro 1% propaganda"? That reveals much about you and your purpose in this forum.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

We've been bombing people for decades. get a grip, take a breath. Why don't you criticize your repubs who haven't tried to stop it with commitee hearings.? You republican plant!

[-] 0 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Liar! Calling ME a Republican Plant is like calling Jesse Jackson WHITE! Your master Odrona is a war criminal, and the fact that he is not the first mass murderer of innocent civilians does not give him a pass!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Your name calling of our great President betrays your re[oblicans leanings

[-] 0 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

LIAR! No "great president" has inhabited the White House for decades. Like Dubya, Odrona is a puppet of Wall Street and the War Machine, ruining the lives of American citizens at home and killing innocent civilians abroad. And like Dubya, he is a war criminal awaiting capture, trial and conviction. And sooner or later YOU will go TOO as a willing accomplice, Quisling!

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Your name calling betrays the weakness of your arguments, and is simply the schoolyard bullying tactics of your candidate Romney.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 11 years ago

Go join the fight if it is such a noble cause you sell out

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Sell out? whatta you talkin about.?

[-] 2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago
[-] 2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

U.S. Expands Drone Flights to Take Aim at East Africa:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904106704576583012923076634.html

[-] 1 points by TransPacificPartnership (8) 11 years ago

Suicides Outpace War Deaths For US Troops:

http://thelinkpaper.ca/?p=17489

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 11 years ago

Why don't you use your old alias or one of them? Or pay your dues on this one and post reasonable comments on other's threads a couple of hundred times? Then, after we get to know you from those comments, only then post something like this If you aren't willing to pay your dues you should be ignored. Very ignored.

[-] 1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago
[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Pushing the Koch industries propaganda still huh? This is just partisan republican anti democratic nonsense.!

[-] 0 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

I could have posted similar reports from AP, Reuters, BBC, Al Jazeera English, or pretty much any major news source. Doubt it? Google it! Then come back and tell us all how this is "partisan republican anti democratic nonsense"...

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 years ago

partisan's the race and distraction

[-] 1 points by brightonsage (4494) 11 years ago

Show us 200 cogent well considered comments, then we'll talk.

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Your constant anti dem attacks on the President is proof of your pro republican partisanship. Republicans are on commitees that oversee these secret missions they can have hearings and push to end them. They haven't, and you never criticize them! Google that. You republican hack!

[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Liar! Calling ME a Republican hack is like saying you're holding Martin Luther King's KKK membership card. SHOW IT, LIAR! Your master Odrona is a war criminal and a murderer of innocent civilians. He will be held to account - as will YOU - in this life or the next...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

More childish name calling. Please use your big boy words. And I disagree with the secret drone attacks we are engaged in. I also know that our current military casualties pale in comparison to your boy nixons millions killed in the late sixties in vietnam/laos, Nixons millions killed in South America, and cambodia in the early seventies, millions more slaughtered in east timor by ford, millions killed in central america by reagan in the 80's. Bush I hundreds of thousands in iraq, Bush II millions in Iraq/afghan! To compare the few dozen killed by Pres Obama to those millions is simply an effort to minimize the repub crimes of real mass murder. I'm against our secret drone bombings but I know it represents an improvement. Why don't you rail against your repub friends on the congressional house committee that should be attempting to end these actions.? because you are clearly a repub plant.

[-] -3 points by salta (-1104) 11 years ago

inept fool making up numbers.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Wrong. We have killed millions over the decades. We are now killing far fewer under this President. I am against even this lower number, but I know we are improving. To suggest otherwise is just minimizing the republican war crimes of the past. Are you another republican plant?

[-] -1 points by salta (-1104) 11 years ago

how about the 50+ millions freed from the horroros of saddam hussein, saddam hussein who dumped his living countrymen into industrial shredders? saddam hussein who fed his live countrymen to dogs.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

Saddam Hussein? I guess that is a defense of Bush II? Please! The illegal Iraq war was a catastrophic waste of our blood and treasure. And all for oil! Certainly not for the iraqi victims of Saddam!

[-] 0 points by salta (-1104) 11 years ago

is the usa getting oil from iraq? most of the oil imported into the usa does not come from the mid east.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 11 years ago

We get some!!!! Lets stop buying oil from our enemies! They are using the massive profits to fund Al queda! And our American Oil corps are colluding with them! All so that we can keep the gas for your suv cheap!!!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

The truth would be to call you a corporate shill.

Hey Cap'n have you seen Mr. Green Jeans?

[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Calling me a corporate shill would be like calling you a for-real revolutionary, DKAtoday. Put up, or shut up, Odronapologist!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

The truth is you are a corporate shill.

[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday, but you are not God. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying.

[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

demand elections be cancelled until we get the monetized brainwashing out of the campaigns and the rigged voting machines out of the polls.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

No need you present the evidence your own self. Corporate shill.

[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday, but you are not God. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 years ago
[-] -2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Are you independently wealthy, Matthew?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

No need you present the evidence your own self. Corporate shill.

IronButtBrucie? Is some lame corporate entity or group still employing you?

Well I suppose they figure lame support is better then no support.

[-] -2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday, but you are not God. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

IronButtBrucie!!! Your hole digging score should even make you admit your true position and then you can scurry off to create a new sock puppet to continue your digging that new trade route through to China.

Corporate shill - by any other name is still a Corporate shill.

And you are a sock puppet down voting Corporate shill.

ButtBrucie!

[-] -2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Only trolls care about "forum scores"...

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday. But you are a Troll, not God. Your word without evidentiary support means nothing. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

IronButtBrucie!!!

Corporate shill - by any other name is still a Corporate shill.

And you are a sock puppet down voting Corporate shill - so how much of a down vote retaliation should I be expecting from you today?

ButtBrucie?

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[-] 0 points by CaptainTony (-158) 0 minutes ago

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday. But you are a Troll, not God. Your word without evidentiary support means nothing. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

[-] -2 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday. But you are a Troll, not God. Your word without evidentiary support means nothing. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 years ago

No need you present the evidence your own self. Corporate shill.

IronButtBrucie? or are you the trashy one?

No matter - Corporate shill - by any other name is still a Corporate shill.

[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

God's word is accepted as truth by some, DKAtoday. But you are a Troll, not God. Your word without evidentiary support means nothing. Support your accusation, or retract it and apologize to the forum for lying.

[-] 0 points by TransPacificPartnership (8) 11 years ago

Bush waterboarded 3 terrorists, total. Obama has drone slaughtered dozens (actually thousands):

http://occupywallst.org/forum/bush-waterboaded-3-terrorists-total-obama-has-dron/

[-] 0 points by TransPacificPartnership (8) 11 years ago

Pretty much the same set of facts stated a slightly different way:

http://warisacrime.org/content/dude-so-killer

[-] 0 points by TransPacificPartnership (8) 11 years ago

Undeserved: Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize, Peres’ Medal of Freedom, Sarsak’s Starvation in Indefinite Detention:

http://ironboltbruce.blog.com/2012/06/14/undeserved-bushbamneys-nobel-peace-prize-peres-medal-of-freedom-sarsaks-starvation-in-indefinite-detention/

[-] 0 points by vvv0605 (0) 11 years ago
[-] -1 points by CaptainTony (-145) 11 years ago

Reply to Factsrfun:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-is-a-diane-rehm-show-taking-about-where-we-ar/#comment-755730

Like I said, partisan plant, your immaturity knows no bounds.