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Retribution Against the Financial Elite

AMERICA OCCUPIES THE CAPITAL

Posted 2 years ago on Jan. 16, 2012, 1:20 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

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January 17 at 9 am
Capitol Hill

Washington, DC—On January 17 Americans from across the nation and the world will assemble in the shadows of a broken system to participate in real democracy.

At 9 am on the opening day of Congress, Occupy Congress will convene for a day of action against a corrupt political institution. Actions include a multi-occupational General Assembly, teach-ins, an OCCUParty, a pink slip for every congressional “representative” and a march on all three branches of a puppet government that sold our rights and our futures to the 1%.

This is an illegitimate system. Around half of the nation’s population doesn’t participate in electoral politics. More than 6 million Americans who want to vote are disenfranchised, including the entire populace of the District of Columbia. There is consensus that we are on the wrong track and that our “leaders” do not have our interests at heart.

All “elected” officials bought their way into gerrymandered seats with Wall Street money. These bankers’ henchmen have shown themselves both unwilling and unable to take on the tremendous, systemic issues in our country, our place in this world.

In the face of this endemic corruption, the Occupy movement is about organizing locally to discuss and change these problems from the ground up. We came to show the 1%’s Congress what democracy looks like.

Our nation, and our world, is in crisis and our “elected” officials have failed us. They refused to hold their bankrollers—Wall Street—responsible for the financial crimes that bankrupted our nation and destroyed the global economy. This last legislative cycle was the least productive in recorded U.S. history; 90% of the country disapproves of these “elected” officials.

We refuse to accept the grim future that Wall Street’s cronies have designed. We refuse to be the 1%’s captive citizenry. We stand together to show that the 99% are creating a better world.

The 99% will no longer be complacent. Our many voices will be amplified on the steps of Capitol Hill. We shall have a nation by, for, and powered by the people once again. We are building it.

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#OccupyCongress is a part of the Occupy movement, which began with Occupy Wall Street on Sept. 17, 2011, in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District. #Occupy is a people powered movement that has spread to sustained occupations in hundreds of cities in the United States and actions in thousands of cities globally. #Occupy is fighting back against the corrosive power major banks and multinational corporations have over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest depression in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt, Tunisia, Spain, Greece, Italy and the UK, and aims to expose how the richest 1% are writing the rules of the global economy and the laws of the land, imposing an agenda of neoliberalism and economic inequality that is foreclosing on our future.

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[-] 16 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Break up the banks! Demand Glass-Steagall! Make the Wall Street games illegal!

[-] 5 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

Yes, break up the banks, arrest the criminals who gambled against our homes illegally by selling cdo's default swap equities in the form of 2nd mortgages, cease all their assets and dispurse them to we the people! Lets not forget to arrest the government people who bailed these crooks out and sold out america, and covered up the biggest crime of this century!

[-] 7 points by isupportoccupywallstreet (38) 2 years ago

i agree. there must be some charge that can be brought against all these crooks who knowingly ruined our economy and so many lives for their own gains.

[-] 2 points by sufinaga (513) 2 years ago

the FEMA camps are ready for them!!!

[+] -5 points by muddFlapp (-108) 2 years ago

Yes break the banks because you folks defaulted on your loans, because you bought way more than you could afford

[-] 4 points by freewriterguy (882) 2 years ago

the predatory lending still going on today is unimaginable. Attend one of your small courts in your district and observe for yourself how the majority of cases are against the poor such as; check into cash, check n go, and others. Its amazing, its as if noone has a conscience in the finance world anymore.

[-] 4 points by sufinaga (513) 2 years ago

you got it! the tyranny has created a system of bullying! they are all predators on the poor! all the professional classes! all delusional in their self assessment and fee level. all of them supervising and controlling and exploiting the poor with religious BS, insane wars, imagination destroying medication, private prisons all of them living on the backs of the poor and homelesss and unemployed! all of suffering humanity in our community!!!

[-] 3 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Break up the banks because they took on risky loans to turn them around in the finance world for short-term gains!

Break up the banks because they held the economy for ransom in 2007-8 and demanded that we bail them out!

Break up the banks because they are already bankrupt!

Reinstate the Act Glass-Steagall! Make the Wall Street's games illegal!

[-] 3 points by ahbregman (18) 2 years ago

No, no, no, break up the banks because they knowingly supplied the slippery slope onto the thin ice of the mortgage backed securities industry when they knew quite well that they were selling/providing bunk investments to people who could never afford their interest. Break up the banks, jail the executives who allowed their companies to prey on good folks who were sold an American dream only to realize they were suckered into the American nightmare. Break up the banks, jail the executives and disperse their stolen money because they used peoples "hopes and aspirations" of home ownership and retirement to con them into signing on to more than they could handle. Jail them because they used an evil system to reap personal fortunes while they left their "prey" to rot in debt. And you should be a bit more receptive to the needs of others who don't have your high and mighty stance, people do not all have such an easy time understanding the systems they are drawn into by false promises and extreme rhetoric. Peace be with you mud.

[-] 1 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 2 years ago

if your company shuts down,, you will have bought more than you can afford ? and dont say you would just get another job.. there are no jobs because of these crooks!

[-] 3 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Support Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur's bill HR 1489 (Return to Prudent Banking Act) which reinstates the Glass-Steagall Act! It has fifty-nine Congressional co-sponsors and counting!

[-] -2 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwnQZFJ8Q3o

She's one of the biggest dummies in government.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Big deal. She confused one bastard with the other. Read the bill and stop quibbling over a simple mix-up.

H.R. 1489: Return to Prudent Banking Act of 2011: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489

Or just check out this video of Kaptur on top of her game.

Kaptur calls Pelosi, Paulson CRIMINALS!!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=MeVY7JH_xVU

[-] -2 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

The best thing to happen in Ohio in a long time will be the next election. With the re-districting, it'll be moonbat Kaptur against moonbat Kucinich. At least one will be staying home.

I was looking too for the one about her not wanting internet in rural areas because of pornography. Facing a tough election, I wonder if they're tried to clean up her dumbest moments from YouTube.

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

The Glass-Steagall Act is the essential thing here. There is another bill by Congressman Maurice Hinchney, that doesn't have as much support but would do the same thing.

Hinchey Reintroduces Bill to Reinstate Glass-Steagall Act; Break Up MegaBanks that Caused Financial Crisis: http://hinchey.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1677&Itemid

[-] -1 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

You under-appreciate why there was a crisis. It was leverage in the system overall. It was (and still is) a debt culture. Glass-Steagull wouldn't have stopped someone on your street from going into debt for a cruise and taking his savings rate negative. The negative savings rate reduced resilience and led to this period of slack demand as deleveraging takes place. Some guy healing his personal balance sheet and staying away from car dealerships and the mall has nothing to do with Glass-Steagall.

Glass-Steagull also said nothing about leverage. You can have a highly leveraged bank, even if it doesn't have a securities operation.

And breaking up "megabanks" isn't helpful either when something happens that's highly correlated. Even as big as some of the banks are, if just one was failing, we wouldn't have had a problem. It's correlation, not size. A bunch of small banks highly correlated in a negative event gets you to the same place as a few big banks in a negative event.

[-] 2 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Are you familiar with derivatives, credit-default swaps, or collateralized debt obligations? These are the financial instruments that banks created for themselves that went toxic! We had to bail-out their games!

If we were under a two-tier banking system, these megabanks would not have been able to hold a gun to their heads and say "Give us billions/trillions of dollars, or we die and so does your economy".

Glass-Steagall is not the only thing we need to do to get out of this crisis, but it is the first thing we must do. The bad banks have to eat their losses and go bankrupt. From there, we can recapitalize the financial system with a new banking system by way of the Constitution, similar to Lincoln's Greenbacks, and get the real, physical economy going.

[-] -2 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

I'm very familiar. Derivatives weren't problem, leverage was. And leverage is why the consumer finally dropped over in '08; the zero savings rate finally caught up to people and balancing sheet repair began. That killed demand and it's why even now the recovery is so weak. Too many people and institutions no longer have the wherewithal to spur demand with borrowed money.

Being big and having a securities operation are two separate things. You can still have a big bank by itself that simply is too highly leveraged. But like I explained, you can also have a bunch of small banks that are too highly leveraged just the same. It's leverage. Leverage exacerbates upside and downside. It's the prevalence of leverage that created the systemic problems, not Glass-Steagall.

But as move to a lower-risk (aka lower leveraged) financial system, it has important implications for credit. When banks shrink, loans get harder to get. We get to a lower risk position as an economy, but getting there carries some pain. Liberals wonder aloud why banks aren't lending like they were. You can have both de-leveraging and more loans.

[-] 2 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Bank-holding companies' (I shouldn't have called them banks, because they function as much more than that) majority form of leverage is in speculation, not loans. In the world, there is an unknown quantity of debt created by these companies, assumed to be in the tens of trillions and, if you add derivatives, possibly in the quadrillion of dollar range. Essentially , people's tax money is paying is supporting these companies through one type of bailout or the other: TARP is just the tip of the iceberg; the QEs are another; and there are many untold trillions of dollars being funneled through backdoor means.

The whole Western financial system is sinking, my friend. Unless these bad companies (I shouldn't even call them banks) are told to they are not getting any more bailout money, and then are broken-up and forced to take their loses, they'll make it incapable for the real economy to get back on its feet due to the debt monster they have created for themselves and the world.

[-] -1 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

What you're seeing is a leverage problem. TARP and QE aren't just about certain big banks, it's because of a systemic problem. Think of it this way: $100 in capital supported $2,000 in assets. Now, $100 in capital should only support $1,500 in assets. And worse, the $100 in capital took some losses and now it's only $90. So, only $1,350 in assets is supportable. That's why we had TARP and QE. They're holding these excess assets to ease the transition to a lower leveraged system.

Isn't a matter of breaking things up; that doesn't solve much of anything. That doesn't change the capital available or the assets it can support. We're in a long process of de-leveraging. When it's completed, we'll be "back on our feet".

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Leverage is not the problem, debt is. You can deleverage all you want, there's trillions to a quadrillion dollars of debt in the system, possibly more than the world GDP. These bank-hold companies need to be divided into S&L banks and speculation institutions, and the speculation side of it has to eat its losses. We can recapitalize the S&L banks once they are separated from the toxic assets, but as long as the speculation debt remains on the books, any recapitalization will be to support the trillions of dollars in debt of toxic assets..

[-] -1 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

Debt is leverage. You can reorganize them into whatever you like and pretend that you've accomplished something. But it's leverage that is the risk driver and it's this process of reducing leverage that's causing us the pain right now.

Your confused about "loans" and "speculation" and leverage. What's speculation? I'm curious what you think it is. It isn't a matter of what a bank has in assets per se, it's a matter of how those assets are financed. A bank with only loans, but with very little capital compared to the size of its loans is highly leveraged. The more leverage, the more risk, For many of the European banks right now, their problem is loans, loans to sovereign governments. It wouldn't be a problem but for the thin capital stocks of the banks (that's our friend leverage). Gee, but how can loans cause problems?

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Speculation is making money from another's loss. Investing is making money from another's profit.

[-] -1 points by Ninetyninenot (-57) 2 years ago

So, if I buy the stock of a company and the company prospers, but I bought the stock on the market rather than from the company, I speculated? If I short a company's stock because I think it's getting worse, I speculated because someone bought that stock I sold, even though without short-sellers, the stock would've gone higher before eventually succumbing to reality?

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (17800) 2 years ago

Thanx 'sff' for this excellent link & to follow 4 tunes in SOLIDARITY :

1) "What's going On" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-kA3UtBj4M&feature=related ;

2) "Everyday People" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hcgoLojOVo&feature=related ;

3) "Move On Up" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z66wVo7uNw&feature=related &

4) "March Across This Land" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL0J03ngA50 .

iViva Los Indignados!

per ardua ad astra ...~~~***

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6240) 2 years ago

Hey. Nice music. Solidarity from Norway:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU

struggleforfreedom http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (17800) 2 years ago

Takk for det igjen og Solidaritet fra England og http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLgYAHHkPFs&feature=related and just 'imagine'~{;-)

[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Viva!

[-] 0 points by falcon1961 (24) 2 years ago

Lets start today. You are all right about taking action. So here's a legal cause to bring down a part of wall street right now. Mississippi family of three used to gain hundreds of millions in awards with documents seeking billions then left for dead. State courts and public officials are working to extort the awards after a failed and fraudulent class action could not prove injuries to others. With threats we would not be allowed to bankrupt the woulds largest corporations, we beg to differ. Court documents recovered and can be viewed at www.mftms13.wordpress.com

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[-] -2 points by smartcapitalist (143) 2 years ago

duh.. rhetoric.. do u guys ever talk sense?

[-] 2 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

The Glass-Steagall Act (aka. The Banking Act of 1933) separated savings and loans banking from speculative finance. It was put into law under the Franklin Roosevelt administration, introduced by Senator Carter Glass and Henry Steagall. A bank holiday occurred when the law was enacted during which time the books of all banks were opened up to regulators and the separation took place.

If we reenact this law now, we will essentially be cutting loose Wall Street. Bad banks will no longer be able to back their failed speculation with other people's savings.

No more bailouts, only death to the bad banks!

[-] 6 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

"Around half of the nation’s population doesn’t participate in electoral politics."

The problem is not he system the problem is the people.

We had two issues on the ballot in our town in November. There was question about purchasing open space and a question on funding after school activities. To me it seemed a great example of direct democracy. Only 20% of registered voters participated. Only 70% are registered so that's about 16% of eligible voters.

Americans give their representatives a low rating every year for the last 70 years yet they vote them back in year after year.

The Twenty-third Amendment to the United States Constitution grants the District of Columbia, which is separate from any state, three electoral votes which is the same as Delaware, Montana, and 6 other states.

[-] 2 points by dakota (62) from Canton, MI 2 years ago

Why is voting conducted on Tuesday? Why not Saturday or Sunday? This tradition is based upon an agricultural society and when horse and buggy were the primary means of transportation. Today many people are faced with long hours at work, with no time off given by their employer to exercise their right to vote. I am sure many people do not want to stand in lines at a polling station or tolerate the parking problems that are often present at these locations. Voting should take place on a weekend day. Also, I had thought that gerrymandering was illegal. However, this practice is very much alive and well. Based upon this practice, voters become disenchanted by a corrupt voting system. You may favor a republican candidate, but the district or state many be so corrupted that your vote will not count. Until we eliminate corruption - YOU CANNOT BLAME THE VOTERS!

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

Agree 100%

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

First you can use an absentee ballot.

Second, polls open at 6AM and close at 8PM or 9PM. It is twice a year and people know when it is months ahead of time. We can get to the beauty parlor, the football game, the bar, home in time for NCIS, but we do not seem to have time to vote.

I could buy your argument if more than 16% of the people vote but I am sorry you cannot tell me that 84% of the people can't make it to the polls.

How about the 30% that are not even registered? What is their excuse? It is to hard to go use the internet or go to the town hall, motor vehicles, or library???

I never blamed the voters I BLAME the NON VOTERS!

[-] 2 points by dakota (62) from Canton, MI 2 years ago

You made valid points. I personally vote at every election. However, that said, my father gave up his right to vote. He noted that voting for school levies was often futile. In an election, voters will vote against a millage levy. In the next election the school board would work it so that there was an imminent threat to the school's football program. This would convince voters to pass the measure. The cost of education continued to escalate while the quality diminished, but football continued to be a priority. People stop voting when they feel that this so call democracy has been corrupted beyond repair. Detroit is an excellent example where we have had a string of corrupt mayors and public officials. We also have seen rampant corruption in the county government. When corruption is rampant, the people need to rise up, such as what is happening with the Occupy Movement. Perhaps this movement will re-energize the desire of people to exercise their right to vote.

Best Regards.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

But the example you gave on football is pure direct democracy and therefore is not corrupt. The majority of people that voted won. That is how democracy works. Democracy will always upset the minority of people that lose.

[-] 2 points by dakota (62) from Canton, MI 2 years ago

And your response is exactly why people have given up on voting. It also makes the point for me as to why we have a failing education system in our country. The funding for high school football should be separate from education. Extracurricular programs should never be co-opted at the expense of education. Tax payers should pay for quality education, not for extracurricular programs. America's priorities are miss-placed.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

If people give up on voting they get what they deserve.

In a democracy the majority rules. You put something up for a vote. You can only count the votes of the people that show up to vote.

[-] 0 points by capella (199) 2 years ago

except for democrats,..............non existant people vote, the dead vote. there was a story about ny state , a dem official ( anthony renna) said that the process of handing in forged ballots and fake votes ensures that "ballots are voted correctly".

[-] 2 points by petterf (2) 2 years ago

I think you need so look a little bit further than just blaming it on the voters, who could of course also do a better job. Other things to take into account is:

  • The voting system - which is bad (the need to register, it's hard to register).
  • Some people don't have the right to vote at all (some felons in some states), which is unheard of in any other democratic nation I know about.

Third and biggest problem: - The political system which makes it hard to make bigger changes at all, and of course, it take years and years! The system was actually made this way on purpose, according to some of the founding fathers. If the ones we actually elect can't make the changes we wan't them to do, why vote?

[-] 1 points by Jamesmmm (2) 2 years ago

Believe me, thats what democracy does...it may be the best form of government, but one of the problems: it does not work

[-] 1 points by Concerned (455) 2 years ago

In what state is it difficult to register to vote?

You can register to vote at any DMV office. http://www.brennancenter.org/content/pages/voter_registration_modernization_states

The argument that voter apathy is related to difficulty in registering to vote resulted in the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 - now, in addition to being able to register at the DMV, one can register at disability centers, schools, libraries, and mail-in registration.

While not all states allow on line registration, the legislation to provide it is being introduced. Many of those that don't allow it do provide the application online which can be filled out, printed and mailed. All public libraries allow access to computers.

The issue of a felons right to vote is an evolving one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement

Those who hold legal green cards are only banned from voting in federal elections.

The ones we actually elect know that voter apathy (whether it is the unwillingness to take the steps to register to vote or the unwillingness to take the steps to restore the right to vote that is available in some states to felons) will result in not only a low turn out among those legally allowed to vote, but also a certain level of ignorance of the issue which is where the media actually does come with their abandoning of telling the whole story instead of one with a partisan spin. This allows them to stay in office - along with those who give up and say "why vote?".

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

Not true. South Carolina is one of the states whereas it is most difficult to register.Im talking about natural born citizens in the 50's,60's and 70's. The Washington Post ran a storry in their magazine this past Sunday. Many states are passing laws everyday stagnating the American citizen. isconsin is ine of them,and the people are fighting that new law.Sir you are sadly mistaken if you think everything is hunky-dory.

However I can't see one candidate at this time that I can cast my vote for. Voting for these bought out politicos who think that the American public is dumb and sutpid...is a total waste of time.Time to rid ourselves of this cancer sitting on the hill.

[-] 1 points by Concerned (455) 2 years ago

Not true. http://www.dmv.org/sc-south-carolina/voter-registration.php

South Carolina residents can register vote in one of three ways―in person, by mail, or through the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

Keep in mind that in order to vote in a particular election, you must register at least 30 days prior to it. In Person or By Mail

You can print an online Voter Registration Application, using the free Adobe Reader, and mail it or take it in person to your county's Board of Voter Registration. You must attach a copy of your current driver's license or photo ID, a utility bill, or current bank statement which shows your name and address. Motor Voter

Thanks to the Motor Voter Act established in 1993, South Carolina residents can now register to vote at any DMV branch office. You'll need to complete the Voter Registration Application and show proper ID. Your voter registration card will be mailed to you. Can I Vote?

Before you register to vote, make sure you're eligible. You can vote in federal, state, and local elections if you meet the following requirements:

You must be a citizen of the United States.

You must be 18 years of age or older.

You must be a resident of the precinct in which you register to vote.

You must be mentally competent.

You cannot be confined in any public prison, convicted of committing a crime.

If you have been convicted of a felony, or an offense against election laws, you must have served your entire sentence (including probation or parole) or you must be pardoned before you can vote again.
[-] 2 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 2 years ago

See http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/justice-dept-rejects-south-carolina-voter-id-law/1 . The most persuasive issue, raised by the head of the NAACP and accepted by the Justice Department, is that some voters - mostly minorities - simply do not have birth certificates, from which these other documents originate. Now I should add that even though, 99 times out of 100, requirements for state identification are unreasonable and invasive of privacy and liberty (I found even a physician demanding papers under some recent Pennsylvania law...!), the exercise of the right to vote is one of a handful of cases in which the government might plausibly demand real proof of "membership". However, such a requirement, however neutral sounding, is not neutral if it affects some voters much more than others - that's the game that people rejected back in the days of poll taxes and literacy tests. If the government wants voters to identify themselves, they have a duty to ensure that all segments of society are able to do so with equal facility.

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

Exactly

[-] 0 points by Concerned (455) 2 years ago

But what I gave you are EXISTING SC registration requirements.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

Only 20% of registered voters bothered to show up. Turns out most of them where folks that wanted the after school programs. So I guess people only show up when they are going to get something.

You should be required to register. We need to be sure that one person gets one vote. We need to make sure you are alive and a citizen.

Not sure about all felons but in my humble opinion murderers and rapists should lose their right to vote. If you don't want to lose that right don't kill or rape someone.

[-] 0 points by America921 (161) 2 years ago

Its actually not that hard to create a new amendment. The amendment that reduced the age to 18 was created and passed in under a year. The problem is we have shitty politicians who cannot make it in the real world so they become politicians. Our founding Fathers would be ashamed of the idiots we have in congress.

[-] 1 points by Jamesmmm (2) 2 years ago

Hi 921: it's actually easy to amend, if you can get enough people involved (offer to continue employing them or if they are not working for you, offer to give them a job,,,the more desperation that occurs, the easier it will be to persuade people to do what you want them to do...promise them anything

[-] 1 points by BystanderDC (91) 2 years ago

And by the number that turned out yesterday here in DC I would agree. The plan or hope was thousands would turn out, but the reality was it was a couple of hundred initially. It was so small in the eyes if the Capitol Police that there was not really any reason to arrest people. That was the one nice thing, there was minimal or lack of arrests from what I saw. 

As the day wore on and the weather got better we had more people turn up. It's possible by the evening we might of hit a thousand or two, but that would be a stretch. All in all it was not a bad day with the exception of the tear gas scare. But really it was a lot if marching and mic checking. I don't think the president was even around to see us. 

But clearly by the lack of turnout, I am not surprised by the lack of voting. I think the general public really just doesn't care that much.

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Article 5 convention NOW!

JoeTheFarmer wrote:

The problem is not the system, the problem is the people. END-----

True, but for a reason. Media does not provide enough real information about politics. Hype and spin that is intended to divide the people is what is provided.

Such is why my advocacy for an Article 5 convention includes preparatory amendment assuring that a convention has full constitutional intent (see step 3.5). End the media stranglehold on truth, campaign finance reform and securing election systems.

http://algoxy.com/ows/strategyofamerica.html

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

My example had nothing to do with the media but rather two direct democracy questions on a ballot. Simple questions about two important issues in our community. Only 16% gave a damn, the rest were home watching American Idol of Football.

There is plenty of information available in the web for any candidate. Congressional records of votes, what they did in their earlier careers. Most people do not want to look it up. Most do not even know who their representative in Congress or the name of the two Senators from their state.

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

My point is that if they knew enough, they would care.

Since they won't use the web, IF we are to see they do know enough to care, and IF we need them to do this, THEN we need to find a way to see that media is used to defend the constitution by seeing that it shows Americans the constitution has been seriously compromised.

They've been made complacent and apathetic. It's up to us to find away to end this abuse of power that media corporations have.

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

My point is they do not want to know enough because they don't care.

I guess if they are complacent they must be happy in their current situation. When you think about it if unemployment is 9% or even 15% then 85-91% of the people are working.

Most people care about who will make it to the super bowl, who will win American idol,

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Well, I think we can agree it is a chicken and egg situation. But our agreement is logical that they do not know enough to care, but they will not have a way to learn enough unless they go after media, and they don't care because media is entertaining them.

In this case, allow me to give you a link to a video produced by screamingfrog.com, it is called "The Job", if you haven't seen it, you will find it entertaining, and sort of typically defining the mentality we are discussing, or where it is ending up.

http://screamingfrog.com/films/the-job/

[-] 1 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

Nobody who cares needs to go to the media for information. It is a good starting point but with the availability of information on the internet and the Freedom of Information Act you can find almost anything. You can look up

  1. Any politicians congressional voting record: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/rollcallvotes.html
  2. Any candidates funding source: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php
  3. Where they say they stand on the issues: http://www.barackobama.com

And a host of other information on the economy, foreign policy...

As for the video in your link, it was interesting but has nothing to do with what we were talking about. As a consultant that programs in java I have been living like that for 25 years. I don't stand on the corner but I hang out on the jobs boards looking for the next project. I have no problem with that because it is a free market approach. If someone needs me they will hire me. The trick is to stand out from the crowd.

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[-] 1 points by Concerned (455) 2 years ago

The "media" is part of the issue however the peoples apathy bears the greater share of blame...especially in the internet age. There is ample opportunity to read all sides of any issue and to even read the exact bills that are being voted on - yet American Idol and Football take up too much time...

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

We've had 2 generations of media raised Americans, so the apathy is almost bred in at this point. People know how dependent they've become, they just do not think about it because it scares them, particuarly when the elite are slowly pulling the rug out from under the economy, making them aware of how littel control they have.

[-] 1 points by Concerned (455) 2 years ago

While some of the people don't think about it because of fear, to say that the media is fully responsible for voter apathy is too easy. I have not missed voting in any election for 30 years - all of my friends are registered to vote, yet many of them simply don't show up to vote. Asked why they'll say "it was raining" or "I was slammed at work".

Many states have had early voting for several years - with Saturday polls open.

Its very simple to get an absentee ballot by mail - yet they don't do that either.

In many cases, laziness not fear is why people don't vote.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Article 5 convention NOW!

Very good you point that out, but consider; is the apathy from the lack of real, validated and well related information to form compelling concern?

Then, consider the effect of the dumbing down and the fact that without media to responsibly provide the best info, people just are not sure of exactly "what is and what is not" even when reading web pages. I've found many that simply do not add up to what their apparent intent is.

For example, this page, the site is a quasi misnomer in name because a "motion" is made from a lawsuit or parliamentary procedure. The non profit does not have that status and cannot. Also, there is an outright misinterpretation of Article V.

http://movetoamend.org/publications-talks/allison-and-allison-climate-corporate-personhood

Article 5 specifies two alternative routes to ratification, the choice between them left to Congress:

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Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.


Certainly your point of indulgent entertainment habits is very relevant but I find this kind of stuff intentional and sort of gets people off the hook. Also, consider they were conditioned as children, their parents participating, to be couch potatoes and live in, from and under TV society.

I've revised my strategy page today, from the original inspired by an OWS poster, to one more generic. This is dynamic and comprehensive strategy that will do what is needed, make unity. Any comments?

http://algoxy.com/ows/strategyofamerica.html

Curiously, it addresses your point about TV from the other side, ours as successful activists and how we defended the constitution. What they see on TV after we unite in logical defense that causes them to join in.

We must prepare for article 5.

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[-] 5 points by Bodz010 (5) from Harrisburg, PA 2 years ago

Both terrified and ecstatic to stand in D.C. tomorrow...who knows, maybe the military with indefinitely detain all of us. None the less, I refuse to back down and allow my country to go down a path of greed and corruption anymore. For a brighter future and equality, Occupy Harrisburg will be on the front lines of D.C. tomorrow.

[-] 3 points by JamesS89118 (646) from Las Vegas, NV 2 years ago

Hear! Hear! :) and TY!

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[-] 0 points by BystanderDC (91) 2 years ago

Thank you for coming out. Sorry there weren't more people like everyone hoped. I suspect the weather put people off initially. But a few hundred is better than nothing.

[-] 0 points by America921 (161) 2 years ago

The military will not detain you, unless your a terrorist, which I'm assuming your not. Although I don't know...... Maybe I should report you....... hmmmmmmmmmm your screen name is very suspicious....

[-] 5 points by Puzzlin (2898) 2 years ago

YES! Yes! YES!

We will have victory, we will persevere.

Occupy CONGRESS!!!

[-] 5 points by GarnetMoon (424) 2 years ago

I am with you in spirit my beloved fellow occupiers!! Let's bring one million this year to DC and NYC!!!!

[-] 2 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

I too will be with you in spirit, and am looking forward to the big demonstration in Washington in the spring.

[-] 2 points by GarnetMoon (424) 2 years ago

I didn't hear about that one, when is it?

[-] 2 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

I thought it was in May, but the only thing I could find is on a facebook page called National Occupation of Washington, DC (NOW,DC) and that is set up for March 30, and April 1 and 2. Although I would rather it be in warmer weather, whenever it is, I'll be there.

[-] 1 points by GarnetMoon (424) 2 years ago

Thanks Odin, solidarity!!!

[-] 4 points by Joeboy32 (72) 2 years ago

Occupy these corrupted "bleep"...!!!.

[-] 3 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 2 years ago
  • Bravo! It is time that citizens take back America.

  • We do not yield our sovereignty to those who "represent us" in Congress.

  • How many of the well-heeled lobbyists in Washington D.C. actually represent grass roots citizens?

  • Who pays these lobbyists?

  • Follow the money.

  • Lobbyists seek to change laws for those who pay them.

  • If a Wall Street lobbyist for Goldman Sachs or the banking industry can get the law changed to remove laws against usury (Excessively high interest rates), who does that help?

  • If an oil company can get the law changed in a way that allows them to environmentally degrade or plunder public lands, who does that help?

  • If the lobbyists for some well-heeled landowner can get the congress to earmark money to build a "bridge to nowhere" except the property of that landowner, who does that help?

  • If lobbyists get the Congress to give tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires, even though the government is running large deficits that require the selling of more bonds to overseas Chinese investors, who does that help?

  • If a lobbyist gets the congress to enact crop subsidies aimed at helping farmers, but only a couple big-Ag corporations benefit, who does that help?

  • If a lobbyist gets the congress to relax regulations on the safety of the food we eat, who does that help?

  • If a lobbyist can get the Congress to water down regulations on the safety and effectiveness of the pharmaceutical drugs we use, who does that help?

  • If a lobbyist can get Congress to bail out so-called "too big to fail" financial businesses but ignore those served by the very same financial services businesses, who does that help?

  • I strongly support the Occupy Congress efforts today, and I hope that this movement spreads like wildfire. We need to take back America from the corporations and the lobbyists who represent them.

[-] 3 points by JoeTheFarmer (2654) 2 years ago

By the way you might want to change the title of this post if you don't want to look silly.

It is Capitol not Capital

http://www.aoc.gov/cc/capitol/index.cfm

[-] 1 points by MachineShopHippie (216) from Louisville, KY 2 years ago

Yeah, except they care less about the building or the city than the money that fuels the machine. I like Capital for this purpose.

[-] 1 points by flip (5036) 2 years ago

maybe it is a play on words! an interesting connection there don't you think?

[-] 0 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

Considering how our elected representatives are bought out with money, I think 'Capita'l is an appropiate spelling

[-] 3 points by JadedCitizen (4277) 2 years ago

Never been prouder of Occupy !!

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[-] 3 points by therising (6643) 2 years ago

So well said

[-] 3 points by charnipar123 (122) 2 years ago

Wonderful! I am all geared up to call and email my Congressman here in Los Angeles. Thank-you OWS. Standing with you always.

[-] 2 points by zorbaka2 (61) 2 years ago

I have been aware of this for many years. It is hopeful that the public is beginning to see the problems that this situation causes. It has gone on so long now that I wonder if the only solution may be a 1929 type failure or worse where dollars become worthless and a new currency is created. Making the ill-gained and inherited money useless.

[-] 2 points by baditaflorin (2) from Bucharest, Bucuresti 2 years ago

In Romania we don`t intend to Occupy the Congress, we want to Occupy the country, and get rid of the old government. Today is day 6.

[-] 2 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

At last Ocuppy Wallstreet has come to the cener of the issue...The Hill! Let's stay there until the changes are made..because Congress DOES NOT represent We The People!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Progress!

They actually had a couple of the protesters at the protest on PBS tonight. We got some (very short) good coverage ( but more coverage than we normally get from corp media, which is usually none ).

[-] 2 points by 1TeaPartier (3) 2 years ago

Yeah...me again...just picture this, one huge rally in DC. Tea Party Gadsen flags and OWS banners. United.

There would be some elected officials needing to change some unmentionables. There would probably be some of those in the elected offices canceling lunches and phone calls with lobbyists for a while, at least.

[-] 2 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Occupy is wining the argument. It is winning the hearts and minds of millions of people. The problem may be how to get those millions off the sofa and into the street, but make no mistake: OWS speaks for millions of people.

[-] 2 points by Marlow (1141) 2 years ago

I saw Cnbc this morning .. how Jim Crammer-head was on Martha Stewart.. and how he supports her ...now.

What gets me to no end, is how SHE Went to Jail and Lloyd Blankfein who has been found GUILTY of Fraud in the Market over and over.. has yet to be indicted.. and only Fined.

... When That is Rectified, and Ole' Lloyd is in Prison, i will rest. Marlow Editor ..Investors4Justice.net

[-] 2 points by johnfrancislee (2) 2 years ago

This is good... but wouldn't Occupying 435 Congressional Districts on 6 November be the best? It is almost certainly the case that we will not be able to elect one of ourselves, a non-duopol, to each and every one of the 435 the first time out... so we will have continually to Occupy all the County Clerk's offices in all the duopol controlled districts every other year from no until we have done so. It's really just a matter of making teh commitment and following through... and changing the election laws once we've reached critical mass to so so. Please have a look at <a href="http://28amen.org">28amen.org</a> for some suggestions as to what's needed.

[-] 2 points by enough (589) 2 years ago

"Our many voices will be amplified on the steps of Capitol Hill." Unfortunately, that's only one branch of government. Don't forget the White House and the Supreme Court. They are all part of the same plutocracy. One branch of government reinforces the other rather than checking the other. That's why the 1% thrives at the expense of honest Americans. They will never be held to account in a rigged system.

[-] 2 points by Odin (583) 2 years ago

Canada didn't let their commercial banks, investment banks, and insurance companies merge like the repeal of Glass Steagall did here, hence they didn't having failing banks.

[-] 2 points by woofka (2) from Colorado Springs, CO 2 years ago

My heart goes with you! I will be on the phone here in Colorado getting the attention of those who the corporations sent to Congress. We are who the founders fought for!

[-] 2 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

4 months and finally!!!

[-] 2 points by 1SiriusMagus (311) from Minneapolis, MN 2 years ago

Right on the mark! My thanks to all OWS for their courage and commitment. I stand with you in solidarity!

[-] 2 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Carry the banner of The Glass-Steagall Act (The Banking Act of 1933) to D.C.! Break up the banks, and you will win!

[-] -2 points by FarIeymowat (49) 2 years ago

Break up all three branches and you will win.

[-] 4 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

I'm all for impeaching these bastards, but removing the US Constitution would lead to the enslavement of the US population by mega-corporations.

[-] 0 points by FarIeymowat (49) 2 years ago

We need government to follow the constitution. Obama thinks he is king, congress is bought off, and the judicial goes on precedent rather than the constitution. Go figure.

[-] 1 points by lonespectator (106) 2 years ago

Henry Paulson should be hung from the steps of the Capitol for Fraud, mis-appropriation of Tax Dollars, Lying to Congress, and Treason. If you think my opinion is wrong, tell me why.

[-] 1 points by squarerootofzero (81) 2 years ago

America is not made of entirely (wealthy) business people or (wealthy) top-level government servants (ha) which is what Gingrich, Romney, Obama, and the rest, believe (or just want to believe). This is how they see the world. What about the teachers, the factory workers, farmers, regular people doing regular jobs? They have ZERO representation. These elections are much more about a power grab and the business interests they represent than it is running the Government. The UNITED STATES of America is NOT a CORPORATION. OWS represents the people of America that the Politicians refuse to recognize as an important part of the social fabric of this Country. Keep Calm and Battle On.

[-] 1 points by rayburn (1) from Emlenton, PA 2 years ago

It's time to declare our Independence from the parasitic/predatory Imperial Kleptocracy! No more National Debt! Vote Libertarian!

[-] 1 points by cmoylanc (32) 2 years ago

Where was everybody on 1/17? Such a meager turnout, and so disorganized. All the hours of travel, and it was just a bunch of people milling around wondering what to do.

[-] 1 points by thetruthonly (1) 2 years ago

MF GLobal, SO FAR, meansto me the government thinks it's "OK" for big banks to loan ridiculouis amounts of money for someone to steal commodity futures client monies from clients, and the CREDITOR BANKS (i.e. JPM Chase) get paid back instead of the victim clinets. This is getting, much,much worse.

[-] 1 points by jimevanhoe1 (55) 2 years ago

Ladies & Gentlemen, January 20th, 2012

We have come to the time in American History where all of US need to do our part for the Future of Our Children, and to show Our Loyalty for the Future of America.

The Loyal - Independent Electorate is now the Majority, 52% of the voting public and we are growing.

Both the Democrat and Republican Parties are now the minority, both have failed in so many as aspects there is no going back to a Republican or Democrat President & Congress....they are finished. Our Nation This Nations' overall #1 problem is Public Corruption, #2 the dysfunctions of our over all Financial System. A financial system that no longer provides for the general welfare, for business, for our future. It is out of date some 30 years.

Lead by Democrats & Republicans it has been allowed to partake in needless "Bush" Wars, that benefit few, and always end with the government over spending on those wars and the Defense Department into the 100s of billions of dollars with no profit in any form to the majority of Americans,none. Failed leadership from the White House to Congress, just follow the money!

Our Government lead by Republicans and Democrats has fallen short in financing the basics for Our Society in the face of Global competition. Failed in educating our people our children, failed to build a true energy system, failed to rebuild our national electric grid.....instead favored needless wars and needless defense spending. With economic collapse in 1988,89,90,91, 2000,2001,2002 and 2008,09,10,11>on going for the foreseeable future unless we throw the bums out....ALL of Them!

The Formula to resolve Our Economic and Social Problems is clear, but will we act, will we come together and move in the right direction? YES

Example of failed leadership by Republicans and Democrats Over the last 30 years government ran by the Republicans and Democrats has had to debt spend, now reaching 30% of the Government's Yearly Budget......every year......with the Country under the current financial system we will not make it, but they will and only they will. With all the economic collapses and needless wars 66 million baby boomers (out of 77 million) do not have enough money saved for retirement....there are only 4 to 6 yrs before this one fact drags the Country for good, WHY, because the Democrat and Republican Financial System no longer works, in part due to large scale public and corporate corruption. Any business that has to borrow 30% of it's capital needs every year will not make it and their system is failing to grow by at least 5.5% GDP annually. Their system WILL NOT make it ....... not with the Debt this Country now has thanks to Republican and Democrat leadership-failures and not with the systems that are now in place. Even if Ron Paul's system is applied that system will not change our system correctly....the system will fail on larger scale.

1/2 of the USA population (150 million) will be living in poverty with in 6 yrs. if the Democrats & Republicans continue to lead the Majority down the road of failure. Democrats and Republicans would have you believe they may eventually put in place Public Works Programs, but again those type of programs are NOT ENOUGH based upon our current Financial Structure. The degree of Public Corruption ran by the Republicans and Democrats has allowed Our Nation to economically collapse again and again. Over the last 30 years this Country was in Economic Collapse 12 years while China with a population 4 times greater and with far fewer natural resources grew by 8% to 10% GDP for each and every year of the past 30 yrs. Corruption as we have experienced in the USA for the last 30 yrs by Goldman-Sachs & the Bush family, China would have put them all to death for destroying the over all Chinese Economy....should we do the same? My opinion is YES!

How did the Democrats and Republicans allow this to happen? Ask the President and Congress, ask the SEC on both failures 2000 and again 2008, ask the Bush Family of their deliberate corruption, ask Goldman-Sachs and their on going fraud, ask Alan Greenspan as to his term as Federal Reserve Chairman and unregulated financial systems he help create, a total failure and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Rep who sat on the Board of Directors at Goldman-Sachs in March of 2000 creating the deliberate collapse of the Tech Boom (March 2000)..to bring GW Bush to power, that fraud lead this Country to economic collapse in less than 8 yrs.. ask them all how they and their buddies profited from each and every inflated blowup of Our Economy, to each and every economic collapse.

If we are to survive the next 10 years as a Nation of People with Our Families and Our Society in tact we need to move on Washington D.C. in a major way....this Summer...with Our Majority the 52%.... We can and will develop a new financial system and control public corruption.
End the Terror put on US by the Republicans, the Democrats, Goldman-Sachs and the Bush Family.

......TO start we need men like Chris Swecker ( former Assistant Director of the FBI, see google ) Chris to either lead the U.S. Justice System or the entire U.S. Government, to fight and WIN over Public Corruption, at all levels of government and to over see Our New Financial System. Without pure honesty in government and a regulated new financial system we are all doomed, not maybe we are doomed absolutely as a Society. JUST Do the math!

Maybe 1% will make it as things go now, but I am absolutely sure if that happens the 99% will take out the 1% by any means for destroying the Country, Our Future, Our Families. That destruction will not be left unchallenged ....... THE TIME to fight for what is right IS NOW, the time is now FOR ALL US TO ACT!

If the.... ARABS & Muslims ......have the balls to fight for their Freedom........we should as well !

"We the People" can live on if we put in the effort to throw out the bums, dump all of the Republicans and all of the Democrats!

A NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM Working on a new financial system that will work! absolutely! does it need further detailing from others? yes! can and will we do this? ...we have no choice as a Nation, we must remove the Republicans and the Democrats, for 30 years of failures.....moral failures as well.....

Is there a Financial System that will work completely? absolutely...... through out the History of Civilization there have been many financial systems in place. How the Romans ruled their financial system isn't how it went during the Dark Ages, or how Spain ruled its world isn't how China will rule its financial future.... Are we being left out with regards to our own destiny?
All of US need to answer this question...so answer it____ GET INVOLVED!

The Time to Move on Washington D.C. is Now, this Summer, the Summer of 2012

It has been a long day but I find the time to move forward you must as well!

Please read books which are documenting facts listed above, books and articles by: Nomi Prins Matt Taibbi Michael Hastings John Cruz "World Banking World Fraud' who is Alex Alonso "Street Gangs" Vincent Bugliosi facts by attorney Bruce Fein facts by Suze Orman facts by James P. Evanhoe who lead the economic collapse in March of 2000 = Goldman-Sachs-the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation- as seen from Merrill Lynch HQ. every real estate boom starts to collapse in its 4th year ... as it did starting in 2006 Charted through Our Family's real estate company. I know the Republican and Democrat parties having followed them in detail since 1953 as part of a California Political Family. I know the oil industry having followed that industry in detail since 1959, through my Uncle who was VP of Standard Oil of California. I have followed 53 segments of the National and Global Economies over a life time. I read, I watch, I take part.......I am Loyal to America the USA, not to corrupt Leadership by the Republicans & Democrats or U.S. Corporations.

YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU NOW!

James P. Evanhoe

[-] 1 points by kickthemout (83) 2 years ago

We have to make more demands than these. All federal and States Civil and Criminal laws must be changed in order to build up a just government for the people by the people.

[-] 1 points by lonespectator (106) 2 years ago

Read what happened leading up to the 1st bailout spear-headed by the Criminal "Henry Paulson". He was a 35 year Goldman Sachs man, and was responsible to his friends at Goldman only. He scared the corrupt Democrat controlled congress into giving all that money, no strings attached, and a clause to assure that he and his friends could never be prosecuted. Once he accomplished his mission, and destroyed the US economy in the process, having assured his friends would never suffer a loss, and actually show profits, He resigned. He and all those in Congressional power at the time are criminals. OWH and insist the deal is broken, and they are all arrested and prosecuted for robbing the American people.

[-] 1 points by applesause (2) from San Jose, CA 2 years ago

Joseph Natoli just published a book on amazon, "Occupying Here & Now". This might be of interest to some of us 99ers.

[-] 1 points by TheirLyingPropaganda (54) 2 years ago

The recent waves in Congress over SOPA and PIPA are perfect illustrations of how Congress does NOT represent us.

Reportedly at least one of the bill's sponsors didn't know what was in the bill and withdrew his sponsorship.

I'd bet that no Congress member reads bills. The real problem is that the guts of so much legislation is written by The One Per Center Lobbyists.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

nice slogan

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Take part. Take action. Your voice is a vote. Lobby government.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/your-voice-is-a-vote-you-dont-need-a-lot-of-money-/

[-] 1 points by Rascus (30) 2 years ago

What do you leaders of OWS know of a person by the name of George Soros? Supposedly this person is a biilionaire and the founder of a group thats called INET and from what research Ive done the connections seem to go all the way back to the 60's and the Weather Underground of Ayers and Dorhn....and of course we should all know that Obama was really good friends of those people. I just hate to even think of the possibilities that we are being set up by the 1% who OWS says that they intend to oust....so does anyone have any comments or any answers to these which I have made? Someone must surely know of these things if you are organizing these protests. I just hope that anyone not aware of these things will check them on your own ,for sure dont rely on everyone else to tell you the real truths.......WAKE UP AMERICA, and heres a link to begin with.......

http://www.wnd.com/2011/10/351141/

http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/occupy-wall-street-lighting-the-fuse-to-begin-a-bloodbath/

So come on OWS...come clean...who is really supporting you people and why....are we being set up for something dark and sinister....or what?

[-] 1 points by shooz (26712) 2 years ago

Have you figured out how Roger Ailes fits into all this yet?

[-] 1 points by Rascus (30) 2 years ago

No ....I haven't....though I'm most certainly open to any enlightenment you may offer in regards to Roger Ailes. Associated to Fox news so Id imagine to start off something to do with our messed up media ......though I for sure will follow thru and see where the name leads me......

[-] 1 points by AllOverIt (100) 2 years ago

“If we think of ourselves as the passengers on a space craft with a finite ecosystem on a journey that will take many generation­s to complete we can begin helping and supporting each other so we all arrive at our destinatio­n rested, well fed and in wonderful condition. We can imagine that the people that greet us at the ultimate arrival gate will talk in wonderment about our collective capacity for mutual care and respect, our healthy bodies and bright, intelligen­t and educated minds. We can help each other to achieve these things or we can go on travelling on this ship wherein the passengers sabotage each other, steal each other's resources and food, blow each other up or poison each other and arrive at the destinatio­n a stinking mass of paranoid power thugs and starving, barbarian victims only to be looked on in horror by the host planet and then blown to smithereen­s to avoid contaminat­ion of their own population­.

So let's all agree to change the paradigm to the one that we can all enjoy and be proud of.”

[-] 1 points by Bighead1883 (285) 2 years ago

How inspiring.Corporations want us to believe that the light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off due to cost cutting.The sackings{downsizing}throughout the Corporate sector,especially in finance is adding more grist to the mill.OWS has re-lit the light at the end of the tunnel because it is striking right at the heart of the matter.As has been seen in so many parts of the world itscitizenry is totally over oligarchy,plutocracy and dictatorial usurers.As has been said here before,Corporations have been acting illegally in so many guises worldwide that in a decent world we all know that this need not be.But corruption has been endemic for so long that its no wonder enough is enough.For a government to be the representative of the people the requirement is for the people to VOTE in what they want.They have gotten away with their B/S because of apathy on the part of the electorate.Big Business wants high unemployment.Big Business wants a disenfranchised majority to manipulate at will.Big Business wants to corrupt.Now they want to totally control the internet via government cronies willing to do their bidding.The corporations have grown too large.So far Gordon Geckho has won.This will change.We need to bring in a worldwide sustainability where planetary rape is curtailed and a more social structure is engineered.One People,One Planet.This is not utopian its just plain old common sense.The greed that is blindsiding politicians must end because as the headline of this article says,"YOU DONT REPRESENT US"

[-] 1 points by falcon1961 (24) 2 years ago

Legal cause against wall street awaits joint action. www.classvictim.wordpress.com and www.mftms13.wordpress.com

[-] 1 points by slizzo (-96) 2 years ago

What a miserable failure that small gathering of incoherent misfits was! Admit it, OWS, your chance to take this protest where it belongs (DC) has long passed. You blew it by sucking up to the DNC and treating the left wing president and left wing majority senate with kid gloves. It's over.

[-] 1 points by poltergist22 (159) 2 years ago

This is what we should do ...www.nationalday911.org

[-] 1 points by Rudy (4) 2 years ago

Unfortunately, our elected officials can't hold Wall Street responsible because they didn't break any laws. What Wall Street did to us was immoral, it was inappropriate but as a result of systematic deregulation starting from the Reagan Administration, their practices was legal. That's why the DOJ haven't been able to arrest those people.

The only thing that the federal government can do now is restore old regulations that was put forth to protect the economy or create new laws that will put an end to Wall Street greed and make those practices illegal.

This Administration has done a whole lot to create measures that will stop Wall Street actions in the future. http://obamaachievements.org/list#toc-1 (Banking and Financial Reform) ATTENTION: This is not a lame attempt to get folks to vote, you can do what you want, I'm just pointing to what has been done thus far in terms of reigning in Wall Street and financial institutions.

[-] 1 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

Thanks for the link.

[-] 1 points by jwe (16) 2 years ago

Bravo! Onto an American Spring.

[-] 1 points by SlowlyAwakening (2) 2 years ago

OCCUPY THE MEDIA I live in Ireland and having watched the Mainstream Media TV News programs TOTALLY BIASED coverage it has become apparent to me that WE THE PEOPLE need to OCCUPY THE MEDIA Forget Wall Street Protests or Protests at Congress. They are either not going to be reported on TV or misrepresented and made to look umimportant or just pitiful. The internet is starting to get heavily censored too. The general population have been controlled and brainwashed for years by ruthless TV censorship. OCCUPY THE MEDIA......March on and demonstrate outside TV Stations and TV Studios. Hard to ignore that on TV if they have to start reporting on WHY PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO OCCUPY THE MEDIA

[-] 1 points by PetadeAztlan (113) from Sacramento, CA 2 years ago

On the Relevancy of Electoral Politics Today Inside Amerika via @Peta_de_Aztlan ~ http://bit.ly/y6hI1s ~

[-] 1 points by PetadeAztlan (113) from Sacramento, CA 2 years ago

Tuesday, January 17, 2012 ~ On the Relevancy of Electoral Politics Today Inside Amerika via @Peta_de_Aztlan ~ http://bit.ly/y6hI1s c/s

[-] 1 points by bettydonnelly (115) 2 years ago

Third Party Now R's and D's are totally corrupt. Owned by Wall St. Publicly funded Elections.Strict term limits, two terms for Reps one term for Sen. One six year term for Prez. Vote by Internet Simple Majority Wins. No Benefits no Retirement.

[-] 1 points by 1TeaPartier (3) 2 years ago

Dear OWS~

I think you're getting it and I applaud you!

At the beginning of the melt down, Treasurer Hank Paulson's solution for banks that were too big to fail was to (get this) merge several banks into larger ones. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT...WASHINGTON D.C. + WALL STREET ARE THE NEW MAFIA.

As a Tea Partier, I implore you, when is your side and my side going to have a sit-down?

NOTE: Washington D.C. & Wall Street would like nothing better than to keep OWS and the Tea Party sniping at each other. Just let that sink in for a minute.

[-] 1 points by falcon1961 (24) 2 years ago

Here's a legal cause to get back a huge amount of the money back from criminal WallStreet. www.classvictim.wordpress.com

[-] 1 points by impolex (5) from Yonkers, NY 2 years ago

ALL THE LOVE TO OCCUPY CONGRESS! ALSO!!! If you have a chance call the Mayor of Syracuse, New York, @315-448-8005 and demand for a halt to the unfair eviction of Occupy Syracuse

[-] 1 points by GreenIguana (36) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Making blanket statements condemning an entire group is inaccurate and alienates potential allies: "All “elected” officials bought their way into gerrymandered seats with Wall Street money." is not a true statement. It is a generalization.

[-] 1 points by alohahenry (1) from Kealakekua, HI 2 years ago

Occupy Kona Supports OWS and Occupy Congress.

Everybody Needs a Theme song. Revolution, written by John Lennon and performed by Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead, Seems to me to be the best choice. This Version at this show seems to be the Highest Energy and Clearest Vocals. This Olympic Version is the Best Quality of Revolution (Encore) I've found so far.

http://www.archive.org/​details/​gd1983-10-17.111611.Sennheiser.​daweez.d5scott.flac16

[-] 1 points by ceoholla (1) 2 years ago

Accusations of corruption within the federal judicial system has affected Independent artists' lives for the worst! Attorney Stephen T. Lowe confirmed our allegations of corruption when he documented in his article Death of Copyright" “In the last 20 years, the Second and Ninth Circuits and the lower courts within those circuits, 48 copyright infringement cases against studios or networks were litigated to final judgment. In all 48 cases, the victors were the studio and network defendants. Most of the cases were determined by a grant of summary judgment.” When the government who is supposed to protect and serve participates in the alleged theft of our Copyrighted works and gives these alleged crooks carte blanche to STEAL IN THE NAME OF THE LAW...WE MUST FIGHT! Please support our cause by 1) reviewing Part I-The Trailer for our Documentary Injustice for All...Summary Misjudgment and sending link to all your friends and family iseopLE

Thus, 46/48 copyright cases, 96% of all cases, IN 20 YEARS, NEVER SAW A JURY in two of the biggest circuits in the United States! Is it even possible/probale that NONE OF THESE CASES COULD WIN (this is the ONLY reason these cases should be dismissed on Summary Judgment). Summary Judgment is simply Stealing…IN THE NAME OF THE LAW (SUMMARY JUDGMENT)! PLEASE

1) review our Trailer Part I-the legal aspect of these UNCONSTITUTIONAL DISMISSALShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKGrZfozHE4&feature=youtube_gdata_player 2) sign our petition http://signon.org/sign/tell-ice-director-john 3) And look for Part II-The Preview disussing the Human side of how these alleged thefts have negatively affected our lives WE CANNOT ALLOW COPYRIGHT TO DIE AT THE HANDS OF THE 99%. Any artist, writer, singer, poet, who wants to protect their, their children's, or children's children's future in the arts, must join our fight for JUSTICE FOR ALL~

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Okay, I see that and realize that when I saw the 9th circuit revise their local court rules secretly to deprive pre se civil rights plaintiffs by allowing secret, illegal abrogation which ended, new multiple plaintiff refilings of pro se civil rights suits so that a new magistrate and judge were assigned; a similar problem existed in other courts. There it is.

Good video. Consider contacting me about the injustice I uncovered effecting all pro se civil rights plaintiffs in the 9th circuit, and the case that exposed which effects most everyone in the nation one way or another.

Its about the mind.

elanuslecurus@lycos.com

[-] 1 points by Sovjet (19) from Mačvanski Prnjavor, Central Serbia 2 years ago

"Fascism is capitalism in decay" - Vladimir Lenin

[-] 1 points by DanielG (1) 2 years ago

Fix our problem, KISS ! Take control over mainstream media, Put the Entire Washington D.C. cesspool slime on a boat "without children on board" send them off, see if they can find someone that will have them, same with every Corrupt: Judge, Sheriff, Cop etc etc etc...... Instruct the public over mainstream on how to begin replacing slime with Standup Men and Women, Use our Good Military to temporally keep the peace, Until We the People can put our mess back together.

[-] 1 points by ohmygoodness (158) 2 years ago

Very Inspiring action. Excerpts from If by Rudyard Kipling

"If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;

If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim, ....

....

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

....

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And - which is more - you'll be a Man , my son (Woman, my daughter, sorry Kipling)!"

Yes OWS will win!!!

[-] 1 points by somebodyschild101 (1) 2 years ago

I went to The Cali State capital to speech before a sub- committee concerning STOP the SPRAYing of LBAM, I recommended to all interested and uninterested parties to STOP CHEMTRAILING!!!! Why this is such a hush job is news to many people in love with acccusing aware folks of being conspiracy theory alarmists. On the other hand blame is easy on a easy target. When we learn?

http://theintelhub.com/2011/03/30/secret-presidential-chemtrail-budget-uncovered-exceeds-billions-to-spray-populations-like-roaches/

[-] 1 points by BatonMassage (4) 2 years ago

WORLD REVOLUTION is the Marxist concept of overthrowing capitalism in all countries through the conscious revolutionary action of the organized working class. In many Marxist schools, such as Trotskyism, the essentially international character of the class struggle and the necessity of global scope are critical elements and a chief explanation of the failure of socialism in one country. The end goal is to achieve world socialism, and later, stateless communism.

'World Revolution' @ Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_revolution

What is wrong with you people? The answer to our problems is World Communism? How many of your families would be ashamed you, to find out the fact you march on the soil of the USA, in a call for Stateless, Worldwide COMMUNISM? All of you should be ashamed.

How can one speak of amending the U.S. Constitution within a movement that calls for World Revolution? If such an asinine disaster is successful, the Constitution of the United States would no longer exist to amend or to uphold any amendments.

[-] 1 points by Rascus (30) 2 years ago

You just might be suprised how many of the groups within OWS are pushing for Communism, Facism,Marxism and Socialism.......and how many are actually helping to fullfill the !% wishes and agenda....do your homework Americans!!

[-] 1 points by jenncoolVA (1) 2 years ago

The FOX is in the hen house! VOTE them out!

[-] 1 points by Keeka (1) 2 years ago

If we are the 99%, then let's prove it come November. If you are not registered to vote, get registered, and this coming November vote out the two major parties. Vote for the independent, green party or Libertarian candidates instead of the republican or demacratic candidates. Voting for a republican or demacrat is a vote to maintain the status quo. Break-up the political "good old boys" club! VOTE 'EM OUT!

[-] 1 points by infonomics (393) 2 years ago

Demand the rotation of auditing firms every five years.

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[-] 1 points by JohnDeSantis (1) 2 years ago

Read about this very important and most needed SPECIFIC GOAL for all protesting groups and activist organizations in this link -- it’s about helping to get the most important worldwide conversation in the history of humanity going: http://www.publicandprivateenterprise.org

Please know that I'm only asking the protest groups and activist organizations around the world to simply add this into everything they are protesting about, or doing, to help humanity.

Occupy Wall Street is group number (1) of the (700) protest groups and activist organizations that I have so far contacted in this link on my website: http://www.publicandprivateenterprise.org/TheListOfProtestGroupsWorldwideWhoWereSentMyMessage.html

This link is to the copy of the E-mail that I send to all Protest groups and Activist Organizations: http://www.publicandprivateenterprise.org/TheCopyOfMyE-MailMessageSentToProtesters.html

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 2 years ago

INCREASE THE PEOPLE'S KNOWLEDGE is the only way to destroy this evil tyranny.

[-] 1 points by Rascus (30) 2 years ago

No Getting the people out in the street and away from the TV and off the couches is the way to go....there is much strength in many numbers...I believe that a lot of people already have the knowledge....they just need help to direct it in the correct way to pull everything together.....instead of sitting back saying just wait till they come for my gun!

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 2 years ago

when the people realise they have been lied to and ripped off then they will come out and join in our community. i believe in earthquake love! the earth will quake and then they will all come out and show them real love for each other! the stress is going to get worse in the economy. the oppression will get worse until they declare Martial Law and open the FEMA camps for us to occupy. then will they come out? when will there be DANCING IN THE STREET?

[-] 1 points by NiceLovelyDay (55) 2 years ago

Good luck, my good occupiers! My prayers are with you.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Disaster (real or forged) can be used...

[-] 1 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

And has been used, as we have seen in the last decade.

[-] 1 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

so far no disaster at OWS, eh?

[-] 1 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

I was referring to Sept 11, 2001.

[-] 2 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Real or not 9/11 had been used as an excuse. I am going to hoped that Occupy DC is going smooth.

[-] 1 points by Alliandrina (40) 2 years ago

Not sure I understand... How was Democracy brought to DC? From what I've read about the GA's- they don't seem democratic to me. There isn't away to make people take part in these any more than there is to make everyone vote.

[-] 2 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

Have you been to a GA? You don't have to participate- you can just go and stand on the perimeter or in the back and listen and watch. That's what I did the first couple of times when I didn't really get what was going on. I don't watch TV, but I wouldn't be surprised if GAs were misrepresented there. GAs are fundamentally different from the current American 'democratic' system. Everyone has the chance to express their opinion at a GA, whereas today in America if you are on the losing side and get out-voted, your only choice is to keep quiet until the next time you get to vote and hope your side wins next time.

Also, from your last sentence, I don't think "making" people do anything is a good idea. You certainly don't "have" to participate in a GA. It's for those who want to speak and be heard, address society's issues as a group and work things out together. I think Australia has proven that forcing people to vote isn't a good thing.

[-] 2 points by Alliandrina (40) 2 years ago

I have done my research online to the best of my ability as to how they are run. I have read the minutes, I have watched videos and I have asked questions proudofOKC. But no, I haven't been to a GA in person and to be frankly honest I probably won't. I don't like some aspects of how I read it being run. They claim they are for equality but in my opinion- the progressive stack is counterproductive to that. I do understand from what I have read and again from what you say that everyone has a chance to speak. But that doesn't make it democratic. A true democracy is when everyone has a chance to participate in their government. The problem is that not everyone can or will want to take part in that type of system or in a system like the GA's. And I agree with you proudofOKC- it's not right to make people do anything. But then you are left with something less than a true democracy. And if we are going to have a group of people anywhere trying to make decisions for this country I rather it be a group of people I've at least had a chance to vote for. Now proudofOKC- can you answer my question...How did occupy bring Democracy to DC?

[-] 1 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

Honestly, those sound like great issues to bring up at a GA! The system cannot be perfected if the people with good ideas keep quiet. This kind of thing is only as strong as its constituent parts. It is not a perfect system by any means. It is a very human system, subject and vulnerable to the weaknesses of human character.

How do you think a true democracy can exist in America? How would it work in big cities, where large numbers of people are involved? It's difficult for me to convey my tone by typing, but I am honestly asking and interested to hear your answer. (I think firing off questions in text can sound like an attack, so please don't take it that way.)

If we are working off of your definition of democracy here, then I too am very interested in seeing a true democracy take place. One of the reasons that has brought me to the Occupy movement is because right now it is so malleable- we can still change it as we discover what must be done for a more democratic society and what does and does not work. If the movement locks in to a certain system and refuses to change, then a lot of people, including myself, will leave. Thanks for your input.

[-] 2 points by Alliandrina (40) 2 years ago

Most people, I believe think of a true democracy as a direct democracy. One where everyone has a say. Do I think its possible? Maybe, in the far far far future. It definitely isn't possible now. Most people are more interested in their everyday lives than in trying to effect change. Whatever happens will come from a couple things. One- abolishing the electoral college and having a popular vote. And two- something that one of the states tries and it works (but what it is I don't know).

[-] 1 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

Yeah, something must be done, that's for sure. Whether or not we see the pristine finished product in our lifetime or not, we have to keep trying things out and see what works. I am not arguing for the electoral college by any means, but a popular vote is also not a perfect situation. It means some people have to lose, maybe even as much as 49%, or whatever is the established acceptable majority/minority proportion. I come from the only state in the US that went all red in the Bush/Kerry election. I have grown up thinking it pointless and hopeless to vote because my progressive views will always, 100% without fail, be out-voted, if they are even represented at all. We win, you lose, better luck next time. That is one way in which this "rule by consensus" is attractive to me, because from my experience a "one man, one vote" situation is very similar to rule of the mob. So yes, it's not a perfect system and we need to keep working at it and tweaking it toward a system of fairness for everyone.

[-] 2 points by Alliandrina (40) 2 years ago

We won't see any pristine finished product not in our lifetimes. And I am not trying to be negative just realistic. True meaningful change comes over time where it stops and starts repeatedly. Because we find what doesn't work, tweak it, and hopefully make it better. I am not arguing for the dissolution of the electoral college or arguing for it, but I have noticed that when Bush won against Gore- alot of people were upset because Gore had the popular vote. Maybe another thing to consider is what brought about the problems in our government. Most seem to agree that it is 'partisan politics.' Once upon a time the president and the vice president were not of the same party- then the 12th amendment was passed- now they always are. Maybe we should go back to the original set up and see if that solves anything.

[-] 1 points by Thrasymaque (-2138) 2 years ago

There's an important point to consider for those that currently vote for their representatives, but don't want the time consuming part of being actively involved in a system like general assemblies. If I study the platform of a representative for a few months and vote for him, I know what to expect and who to blame if he doesn't try to do what he said he would.

In practice, what happens with general assemblies is that only a few people constantly go to them. Most people cannot and don't want to devote time everyday to discuss and solve political problems. What this means on a practical level, is that with general assemblies they have representatives they don't know. People without names who cannot be blamed. For someone like me who spends his days computer programming and doing music, this is a step backwards.

[-] 1 points by proudofOKC (361) 2 years ago

I can definitely see what you're saying there, as I myself can only get to a GA once a week. We're not to that point yet, but I've been thinking that it would be great if some GAs could function online, that way even people with mobility issues could participate if they cannot physically get there. There are far more people who follow the Occupy movement online than who actually get out and participate. It's not a perfect system, but at least it can be changed. I feel like my representatives are so far removed from my personal struggles that I cannot hope to find someone to actually represent me. Also, if our representatives actually did what we wanted them to, wouldn't we have a better life right now? It's not that the economic and social problems facing this country are magically impossible, but that our government has run away from us and isn't coming back. In conclusion I do see what you are saying and think it is a very valid point and something that needs to be addressed as the movement continues.

[-] 1 points by AmericanWoman (0) from Bloomington, IN 2 years ago

Did you know New Hampshire Republicans propose that all new legislation include a direct quote from the Magna Carta? You should check it out. The Magna Carta is an 800 year old document consisting of major declaration of Peasants rights under English monarchy (Feudalism)... Really? It's hard to believe, but true

[-] 2 points by GarnetMoon (424) 2 years ago

That is true AW. Unfortunately, James is right, the peasants got nothing...

[-] 1 points by EmmanuelGoldstien (1) 2 years ago

I don't know what part of Magna Carta those Repugnicrats want to quote, but that haebeas corpus thing seems like a good idea; why can't we adopt that and put it into effect?

[-] 1 points by JamesS89118 (646) from Las Vegas, NV 2 years ago

To be more plain and less vulgar, the unique struggle at the time was the established power of the king, vs the LandLords (serf/slave drivers) who had grown more powerful in their last 200 years and finally, a rapidly emerging Merchant Class that traded goods everywhere for everyone.

So ya got King power vs LandLord serf/slave-drivers and the new money of rising Merchants.

The LandLords had to do something quick before they were completely overshadowed by the Merchants who would easily and quickly corrupt the king. Many times kings would then use the Merchants to rent the French to heel the LandLords!

Skip to today. The Corporations rule the Government and the serfs create the goods. It's no fucking wonder the corrupt Elephants want the Magna Carta.

Peace :)

[-] 1 points by JamesS89118 (646) from Las Vegas, NV 2 years ago

Hazues! Could ya google just ONCE before typing!!! Non-serf subjects, ie the feudal barons put the Magna Carta to the king!

The Peasants would get NOTHING till the French Revolution and the Renaissance.

Fk a duck!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago
[-] 0 points by icfmike (173) 2 years ago

No consecutive terms for any elected official. Shorten terms to 1 yr Education-worldwide-especially women...

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[-] 0 points by rebel9999 (24) 2 years ago

It's time we put this revolution into high gear and make it a success! It's time we FORCE our government to do what we want it to do. It's time we shut down Congress for good until they pass laws and regulations that we want. We can legally shut down the government just as we can legally shut down Wall Street. Please read my web page at www.mybetteramericaplan.com to see ideas on my Current Events section that will show how we can shut down anything till we get what we want! Also on my web page are many other ideas that will help everyone. Ideas like how we can legally steal the next election from the Republicans by simply legally moving registered voters from states that the Democrats are sure to win and states that they are sure to lose and move them into states that are too close to call and states that they need to win. Also om y web page are ideas on how to easily end global warming simlpy by not flying turbo jet engine airplanes anymore becuse their exhaust is 500 degrees for commercial airplanes and 1800 to 2300 degrees for military jets. This he3ated exhaust is released in the upper atsmosphere where it use to be 32 degrees below zero. These turbo jet engines heat up at the minumum 41,000,000 super bowl size stadiums a day world wide. Monthly that's 8,610,000,000, yearly 103,320,000,000 stadiums of hot air is created in the upper atsmosphere. that's your global warming! After we shut down Congress and Wall street till we get what we want let's shut down the airports until they go back to using propeller airplanes that do not create global warming.

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[-] 0 points by karenpoore (902) 2 years ago

Not enough people there ... )-:

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[-] 0 points by sufinaga (513) 2 years ago

12 high school girls from Leroy New York develop tourettes! after gardasil vaccine injection??????

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Article 5 convention NOW!

By taking action in defense of the 1787 Constitution, all officials you encounter in washington will be forced to hear citizens voices, the officials cannot show they are defending the constitution, for one, they are refusing to be accountable to it. America has been deprived of its first and last constitutional right The right to have an Article 5 convention. That deprival is responsibel for every single problem that forces America into the street.

They know it on some level. Be there to defend your rights through defense of the Constitution, be overt and obvious with them, then read to the officers there, the highest authority doing the dirty denial for the elite, this list of violations of law and the constitution comitted.

Tell them: This is notice, 45 days from now the 99% will consider congress permamently unconstitutional if an Article 5 convention is not called.

Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order which further defines the law for purposes of enforcement. 5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office congressional members were required to take before assuming office.

5 U.S.C. 3333 required you to sign an affidavit that you took the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not nor will violate that oath during your tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law,

5 U.S.C. 7311, which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense for anyone employed in the United States Government to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government.”,

18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: removal from office, imprisonment, and a fine.

Executive Order 10450 specifies a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration…of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means"

The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311.

According to Executive Order 10450 (and therefore 5 U.S. 7311) any act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331 which alters the form of government other than by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311. Such alteration without amendment is criminal violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 and 18 U.S.C. 1918.


In 1939 the supreme court violated Executive Order 10450 specifiing a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311

http://www.foa5c.org/file.php/1/Articles/Coleman.htm

Acts relating to campaign finance are also unconstitutional and comprise “the alteration…of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means"

This man sued all members for those crimes, but without a constitutional court, we suffer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7qIQ1VkEg&feature=player_embedded

[-] 0 points by justhefacts (1275) 2 years ago

Would someone please change the spelling of the title? Unless of course OWS plans to Occupy a capital letter of some kind.....

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