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Forum Post: "Will the GOP Steal America's 2012 Election ?" by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman.

Posted 8 years ago on Sept. 7, 2012, 1:02 a.m. EST by shadz66 (19985)
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"Will the GOP Steal America's 2012 Election ?"

by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman.


The Republican Party could steal the 2012 US Presidential election with relative ease.

Six basic factors make this year’s theft a possibility:

The power of corporate money, now vastly enhanced by the US Supreme Court’s Citizens’ United decisions;

The Electoral College, which narrows the number of votes needed to be moved to swing a presidential election;

The systematic disenfranchisement of---according to the Brennan Center---ten million or more citizens, most of whom would otherwise be likely to vote Democratic. More than a million voters have also been purged from the rolls in Ohio, almost 20% of the total vote count in 2008;

The accelerating use of electronic voting machines, which make election theft a relatively simple task for those who control them, including their owners and operators, who are predominantly Republican;

The GOP control of nine of the governorships in the dozen swing states that will decide the outcome of the 2012 campaign; and,

The likelihood that the core of the activist “election protection” community that turned out in droves to monitor the vote for Barack Obama in 2008 has not been energized by his presidency and is thus unlikely to work for him again in 2012. Winning a fair and reliable electoral system can be achieved only with a massive grassroots upheaval.

The power of money is now enshrined by the infamous Citizens United decision. In at least 90% of our Congressional races and at least 80% of our US Senate races, the candidate who spends the most money wins. ( http://www.opensecrets.org/ )

From the presidency to the local level, our elections---and thus control of our government---are dominated by cash.

For more than a century, the ability of corporations and the super-rich to buy in directly has been legally constrained. But the concentration of media ownership in the hands of ever-fewer corporations has vastly enhanced their power.

Already in 2012, the tsunami of dollars pouring in from corporations and super-rich individuals has soared to entirely new levels. Even the floodgates opened by Citizens United can’t handle the flow. With its June decision denying Montana’s attempt to keep some spending restrictions in tact, the John Roberts US Supreme Court has inaugurated an era in which virtually unrestrained “pay-to-play” money will re-define the electoral process. Republicans in the US Senate have also blocked attempts to require that these campaign “donations” be made public.

It’s not hard to guess where this leads. The June, 2012, recall election in Wisconsin saw at least 8 times as much money being spent on protecting Republican governor Scott Walker as was spent to oust him.

Barack Obama has spent much of his presidency courting corporate interests. But he will be out-raised by the corporate/super-rich 1% backing Mitt Romney. A handful of high-profile billionaires will spend “whatever it takes” to put the GOP back into the White House. Just a dozen of them have already provided more than 70% of Romney’s early campaign budget.

Most of this corporate money is being used to persuade voters to oust Obama, which they may well decide to do. But US history shows that some of it can also restrict the ability of Americans to vote. It can then “bend” the vote count in ways the public may not want.

Our nation’s history shows that given the same chance, the Democrats would gladly do the same to the Republicans. And it’s happened many times, especially in the Jim Crow south.

But in 2012, it will be primarily Republicans using gargantuan sums of corporate money to take control of the government from Democrats, and democracy be damned.

We are not writing this in support of Barack Obama or the Democratic Party. We are mystified by their unwillingness to fight for meaningful electoral reform. Both Al Gore and John Kerry were legitimately elected president, but neither was willing to fight for us. When we broke many of the major stories on the theft of Ohio 2004, it was the Democrats who most fiercely attacked us.

We’re continually asked why the Democrats have been willing since 2000 to sit back and let the GOP get away with this. Frankly, we have no answer.

But for us, the more important reality is that this electoral corruption dooms the ballot as an instrument of real democracy. A system this badly broken means a bi-partisan oligarchy can always deny third and other grassroots parties the use of elections to challenge the status quo, in this case one increasingly defined by war, bigotry, injustice, moneyed privilege and ecological suicide.

Thus it’s been a century since the last significant electoral challenges to the Democrat-Republican corporate domination of the political system.

That challenge was staged by the People’s (Populist) and then Socialist Parties. In rapid succession they rallied huge grassroots followings demanding core changes to the corporate domination of American politics. The 30-year upheaval they represented laid the groundwork for major changes. But it failed to crack the corporate domination of our political system.

The Populists were shattered in 1896 with a combination of co-option by William Jennings Bryan’s Democratic Party and election theft engineered by Mark Hanna’s Republicans. (Republican strategist Karl Rove, a serious student of the 1896 election, considers Mark Hanna to be one of his great heroes).

The Socialists were co-opted and divided in 1916 by the Democrat Woodrow Wilson, who then crushed them in the most violent wave of physical repression ever imposed by a US President on a mass movement that derived from the heart of America’s working public.

No third party has since risen up with enough real political clout to threaten corporate power through the electoral system. As long as our ballot box is corrupted and unaccountable, none will.

That one party could steal an election from the other means our democracy, if it could still be called that, is essentially in shambles.

But whatever the corporate parties do to each other separately---as the GOP is likely to do to the Democrats this year--- pales before what they can and will do in concert to crush grassroots movements aimed at challenging the core assumptions of the status quo: ie, winning peace, justice, corporate accountability and ecological preservation. This applies to candidates running for office and---as in Ohio 2005---to referenda meant to directly change corporate policy.

Who really believes that the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, the Chamber of Commerce and their related billionaires would spend tens of millions of dollars to win the White House but stop short of spending the relatively small amount it would take to flip the vote?

In the larger view, the ability of either (or both) corporate parties to do this means no grassroots party will be allowed to force meaningful change in America---at least not through the ballot box.

No reality could be more grim for those of us who believe in grassroots democracy. But we are citizens of a nation born with the bottom-up overthrow of the planet’s then-most powerful king. As believers in grassroots democracy, we know that the survival instinct is ultimately more powerful than the profit motive. When it comes to the basics, we have no doubt the power of the people will ultimately prevail.

But for those of you wanting in 2012 to return Barack Obama to the White House, big money may be about to slam the door. The new Jim Crow and the realities of electronic vote theft have made the likelihood of a Romney-Ryan president far stronger than you might want to believe.


e tenebris, lux ...


[Article copied verbatim under "Fair Use" from : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32376.htm .]

Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman are authors of "WILL THE GOP STEAL AMERICA’S 2012 ELECTION", an e-book at www.harveywasserman.ning.com and www.freepress.org , their fifth book on election protection.



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[-] 4 points by Shule (2638) 5 years ago

So long as the democratic party puts up warmongering witches like that wall street whoring Hillary Hag, the progressives won't come out to vote, and the Dem's will loose.

It is as simple as that.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''People Are Happier in States That Allow Ballot Initiatives'', by Benjamin Radcliff and Michael Krassa:

And more to your point, please consider ...

ad iudicium ....

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

"Conservative ‘Dark Money’ network rebranded to push voting restrictions before 2020 election"


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

"Election Spending Boosted by Secret Money .. tops $100M as IRS ends donor reporting rules":

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

"States Are Legally Required to Protect the Right to Vote" by Jeanne Mirer & Jerry Wallingford:

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

"We Must Understand the Sordid History of Voter Suppression to End Its Use!"by D.G.Newman and George O’Connor:

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"The Election Is Being Sabotaged Before Our Eyes"! (Audio with Kelly Hayes)

"As Trump continues his attacks on the Post Office and issues another round of illegal edicts,Truthout’s Kelly Hayes talks with author & researcher Sarah Kendzior about the ascent of authoritarianism in the U.S. and the potential collapse of democracy as we know it." - An important and wide ranging interview.


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

"GOP is waging a war on voting. Here Are 8 Ways you can protect Election 2020"by K.Bruno:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

"If Trump Tries to Hijack the Election, We Must Be Ready to Resist" - by Marjorie Cohn:

"Since Trump will try to undermine the election results, we must take steps to safeguard the democratic process."

cave canem!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

"'Scandalous': GA Installs New, Uncertified Touch-Screen Vote Software Days Before Voting Begins": ('BradCast' 10/1/2020)

U$A's demoCRAZY is in a parlous state but no one seems to care as they sleep walk into Fascism!

respice et prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

'Without Voter Suppression .. GOP Can't Win!' Rev. William. Barber on DemocracyNow! (Video)

omnia causa fiunt!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

"Bannon says Trump will claim victory early - but they don’t know counting process!" ... (Or do they?!)

caveat emptor!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

"The Purged: The Vanished Voters of Trump's America ..."

By Greg Palast posted in hope US'll be a democracy one day!

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23381) 4 months ago

Possible election outcome scenarios as per The Guardian, many are bizarre and frightening tbh.

It takes a foreign news source to explain them all to us. You really have to scroll down this piece to get to the good stuff:


Is Steve Bannon prepared for the scenario where NANCY PELOSI is President temporarily while things are sorted? I sure am not!

What about if Republican state legislatures override the voters?

Or Trump invokes the Insurrection Act?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

"Trump’s Anti-Democratic Threats - Are the Sign of a Desperate Campaign" .. by Sasha Abramsky:

Cave Canem!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

U$A's demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy is so fkt!!! Think not?!! Really?!

fiat justitia ... ruat caelum!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

"AI-Generated Voter Suppression"?!!!

"The connection between Team Trump and Cambridge Analytica was indeed intimate, as has been underlined by Channel Four News reports this week of the way that Nix’s company helped the Donald Trump presidential campaign suppress the black vote in key marginal states during the 2016 presidential election campaign.

"Leaked data from Trump’s campaign team reveals how millions of black citizens were profiled as likely Democrat voters, with the help of software – and, it seems certain, illegally obtained Facebook datasets – supplied by Cambridge Analytica. They were then subjected to micro-targeted Facebook ads designed to instil distrust of Hillary Clinton.

"The object was not to encourage them to vote for Trump but to deter them from voting altogether. And in states such as Wisconsin and Georgia, this appears to have been highly effective: in many predominantly black wards, voter turnout in November 2016 was around 20% lower than in the presidential race four years earlier. In an extremely narrow race, this was to prove a decisive factor.

"There has been already been substantial fallout from Channel Four’s revelations in the US, with many African Americans outraged to learn how Trump’s campaign had actively sought to disenfranchise black communities. There may well be legal consequences for members of Team Trump, too – not least for Brad Parscale, who had acted as digital media director for Trump’s 2016 campaign and was overall campaign manager for his 2020 presidential bid until July 2020.

"Parscale had testified under oath to a Congressional committee that he had not participated in efforts to suppress the black vote in 2016, a statement now shown to be false. He is already in legal hot water, having been detained earlier this week following an armed stand-off with Florida police, called by his bruised and battered wife.

"It’s not clear whether Parscale, a long-term Trump family associate, knew that the Channel Four News story was about to break, or whether this may have contributed to his agitated state. But reverberations from the story may well reach higher still. The overall architect of Trump’s digital campaign was Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and it was Kushner, along with Parscale and the now jailed Trump-Russia felon Paul Manafort, who invited Cambridge Analytica to work on Trump’s presidential bid." - FROM ...

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

"Election Theft Is a 120-Year Tradition. Let’s End It This Year." by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

"The Electoral College’s Racist Origins" by Wilfred Codrington III:

NB .. "More than two centuries after it was designed to empower southern white voters, the system continues to do just that"!

omnia causa fiunt!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Ohio Purge Targeted 40k Active Voters - Including Head of Voting Rights Group!'' by Igor Derysh:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

While They Invest in Voter Suppression ... Republicans Can’t Break With Donald Trump!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"NY just embraced a revolutionary voting system that IF .. widely adopted would change American politics forever"! by Eliza Relman:

dum spiro, spero!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Land of the free? Voter Suppression in the US", by Molly McCracken:

US Voter Suppression … "policies reflect a deep-rooted thread of racism at the heart of American politics, a wound that has festered since the nation shaped itself through slavery and, in academic George Lipsitz’s words, "the possessive investment in whiteness as cultural capital."

''The systemic racism of disenfranchisement can be traced through America’s history: under slavery, the Constitution included a clause that valued black lives at the rate of ⅗ of whites’ ... adjusting the population counts to increase the wealth and voting power of slaveholders. After the Civil War, Jim Crow legislation suppressed the supposedly liberated black vote by making voting near-impossible through segregation, violence, and prohibitive requirements.

''One of the outrages of the 2016 elections was the clarity with which such strategies have now been resurrected. Georgia’s Democratic candidate Stacey Abrams amassed unprecedented success as an underdog and calling attention to the 1.5 million voters disenfranchised by her Republican competitor Brian Kemp. Despite a narrow loss, she has expanded her voter registration campaign nation-wide to encourage people of colour to participate in elections.

''In Florida, Democratic Gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum lead a successful campaign to restore voting rights to ex-felons – an outcome that enables over 1 million formerly disenfranchised people to vote, against a staggering near 18% of the state’s black population who had been politically excluded. Indeed, while scholar Michelle Alexander defines the ‘new Jim Crow’ in response to the overwhelming incarceration of African Americans ... there are clear links between this imprisonment - and the desire among some policymakers to exclude the black population from public society.'' - [^My paragraphing^]

et veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

''Voter Suppression Threatens to Take the US Back to Reconstruction Era'' (Audio and Transcript)

respice; adspice; prospice!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 10 months ago

Bill Moyers: "Will This Public Health Crisis Lead to a Voting Rights Crisis?" (Audio)

From transcript ... "Republicans recognized the opportunity in this. It’s state legislatures that have the ability to draw most of these lines, both for themselves and also for the US Congress.So a handful of Republican operatives, something called the Republican State Leadership Committee, they launch a plan called The REDMAP, which is short for the Redistricting Majority Project.

"And it’s a $30 million strategy, centered around flipping and winning state legislative chambers control in swing states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida. And, by winning 117 state legislative races in 2010 across these states ... they are able to lock in the power, not only to redraw all of their own maps, but to redraw Congress."

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 10 months ago

"The GOP has also been waging an all-out assault against mail-in ballots, in an effort to improve their chances in the November election through blatant voter suppression.'' from this article:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

AND HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! 7 years after making this forum-post - what has changed?!! WTFU USA!


[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23381) 10 months ago

USPS fails, mail in voting fails. Fascinating. I hadn't made the connection.

From https://truthout.org/articles/the-gop-has-every-reason-to-want-the-us-postal-service-to-fail/

"It is not a coincidence that this is all happening at the same time a highly politicized census count is underway and the coronavirus is reigniting a national conversation on the merits of voting by mail. The census happens every 10 years and is used to allocate vital resources to communities and to determine congressional representation. Republicans have been trying through various means to undermine the count, whether through lack of funding or by inserting a citizenship question that will create fear in immigrant communities and prevent them from participating. If Republicans are successful, the end result will be more power for them through less congressional districts that are more heavily gerrymandered in their favor.

The GOP has also been waging an all-out assault against mail-in ballots, in an effort to improve their chances in the November election through blatant voter suppression. Trump has been leading the attacks, saying at a press conference that “mail ballots, they cheat, people cheat. Mail ballots are a very dangerous thing for this country because they are cheaters.”

So Trump and GOP say....

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

GOP's views re.USPS are such b-s and not just because of their desire to corrupt US' Election but a even deeper desire to destroy any chance of the rise of Collective, Working Class Solidarity! Ergo ...

fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Election Theft Is a 120-Year Tradition. Let’s End It This Year!" - by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman (as per OP):

ANYONE thinking that U$A is a functional democracy .. needs to read this forum-post & links!

multum in parvo …

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Re. Iowa, fact is USA's elections are corrupt & Corp. MSM know it but this causes consternation & Cognitive Dissonance in those imbued w/US exceptionalism & hubris … who can't face dark truths!

The second link above ends "In such a strange scenario, the conspiracy theories write themselves"! Note: Nefarious goings-on, inside US' demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy - can only continue in the dark,

ergo - fiat lux!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Looming disaster in CA ballot. There are multiple pages on new digital ballot, and you can vote without seeing all the pages and all the candidates running! Could make 'Iowa Caucus Disaster', look like a walk in the park"! - from …

Until & unless Americans wake up & act on the information that is publically available (eg. on this OP & thread) then they stand to lose everything that they think they stand for & their pseudo-'democracy' but de facto Oligarchy, will mutate & metastasize into the Overt Fascism, that some clearly do crave!

veritas vos liberabit!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 12 months ago

''Texas closes hundreds of polling sites .. making it harder for minorities to vote''! ... by Richard Salame:

And note that this .. ''Guardian analysis finds that places where black and Latino population is growing by the largest numbers experienced the majority of closures and could benefit Republicans.''


[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23381) 11 months ago

TX, CA, MA, VT, CO, MN, NC, VOTE! Super Tuesday, March 3rd

Vote for Bernie Sanders. Vote out the establishment status quo candidates who say we can't have anything!

Vote in the visionary, President Sanders.

Here is how he pays for his plans:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

''Vote in the visionary, President Sanders''! Yep & 'The Nation' magazine agrees..

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

''Open season on voting rights since SCOTUS gutted Voting Rights Act'' by Sandina Robbins:

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23381) 11 months ago

The delegate race is close!

The DNC will delay counting California and handing out the delegates so that Biden continues to look way ahead but it's all spin. Once the California count is in, the race will be very very tight.

Bernie is doing extremely well and with Warren out of the race he will do even better. As campaigning continues and as Biden and Bernie debate, Americans will see more and more how great President Sanders will be.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

''Texas Closed Hundreds of Polling Sites in Black & Latino Communities'' by I. Derysh:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

Fuck The DNC and - fuck ''the democratic party''!!! At this stage - it is really ALL about Bernie!! THE - completely clearly closest to Occupy Wall Street/99%'s ideals, POTUS Candidate in over 50 years!

IF The Corporate Donkey DNC & Hitlary C stitch Sanders up in April'16 .. he SHOULD ABSOLUTELY RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT & ditto for Trump so both could / should / would .. deal a perhaps mortal blow to The Utterly Undemocratic US Duopoly, itself for all intents & purposes a (s)election, after an ultimatum!!!

IF y'all vote Trump in, there will be .. A Hell Toupee!! However, you shall Overcomb Someday!!

dum spero, spiro ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Why Bernie Should Launch a National Voter Registration Drive'':

verbum satis sapienti?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''State Redistricting a Target for 'Dark Money' After The Supreme Court Ruling'' - by Jessica Piper:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''After SCOTUS refusal, it’s up to the People to End Gerrymandering!'', by Marjorie Cohn:

''The Supreme Court has abdicated its responsibility to strike down partisan gerrymandering. This occurs when one party quite intentionally manipulates district boundaries to skew its voting power, notwithstanding ... the will of the voters! Although both parties engage in partisan gerrymandering, Republicans benefit from it far more than Democrats.''

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''SCOTUS, gerrymandering & the Republican turn against democracy!'' - by Zack Beauchamp:

''A bigger threat to American democracy than Donald Trump?'' U$A's demoCRAZY is really so fukt!

e tenebris ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Interstate Crosscheck" and the "Fake Felon" purges have been exposed, now they have "Purge By Postcard". The GOP is going to use this in 2020. Crosscheck wiped out 1.1 million voters in 2016 — wrongly — and this is going to remove double that! - from ...

spero meliora ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

"Ohio is set to purge 235,000 voters from the rolls TODAY (6th Sept.'19)!!! The state ALREADY removed 265,000 voters from the rolls in January,'19, so with this latest purge - half a million voters will have been removed so far this year." - from ...


[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''America’s Electronic Voting System is Corrupted to the Core'', by Jennifer Cohen:

''Just two vendors — Election Systems & Software, LLC (ES&S) and Dominion Voting — account for eighty percent of US election equipment.

''ES&S and Dominion are both owned by private equity, which means we don’t know who funds and controls them. And what little we do know is concerning.

''ES&S, which by itself accounts for 44 percent of US election equipment, received its initial financing from the families of Nelson Bunker Hunt and Howard Ahmanson, Jr., right-wing billionaires who also contributed substantially to the Chalcedon Foundation, Christian Reconstruction’s main think tank.

''Hunt and Ahmanson were also prominent early members of the Council for National Policy, a networking group for the Religious Right and billionaires whose recent members have included Kelly Anne Conway, Steve Bannon, Mike Pence, Richard DeVos, Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, Robert and Rebekka Mercer, and Bob Dallas, a convicted embezzler whose nonprofits have been closely linked to massive voter data leaks.

''In 2000, ES&S’s founder, Bob Urosevich, was appointed President and Chief Operating Officer of another mega-vendor, Global Election Systems, which later changed its name to Diebold and was acquired by ES&S in 2009. Urosevich’s brother remained at ES&S the whole time as a Senior VP.

''It was a Global/Diebold voting machine that “lost” 16,000 Gore votes in the 2000 presidential election in which George W. Bush was declared victorious over Al Gore by just 537 votes in Florida. The “Volusia error” was discovered only because an alert poll worker happened to notice Gore’s total dropping which should never happen — absent fraud or error. It is unknown whether other machines experienced similar issues because Bush — with an assist from future Supreme Court Justices Brett Kavanaugh and John Roberts — succeeded in stopping the recount.

''Thus, in addition to demanding that election-security legislation prioritize hand marked paper ballots and robust manual audits (and ban barcode voting), voters should insist that Representative Zoe Lofgren and other members of the House subpoena the vendors to testify under oath about ownership, past security lapses, and where and when they have installed remote access software and wireless modems.''

Also NB this ... https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-files-of-the-master-of-modern-republican-gerrymandering by David Daley

hmmmmmm ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''More People Are Voting — But 1,688 Polling Places Have Closed in 6 Years'', by Mike Ludwig:

''Voters came out in record numbers for the 2018 midterms, and analysts with both parties predict turnout for the 2020 election could be unprecedented. Meanwhile, civil rights groups are warning an “epidemic” of polling place closures has swept 13 states, including several southern states with deep histories of racial voter suppression. Civil rights groups say the mass shuttering of polling places could make it harder for rural voters, voters with disabilities, lower-income voters and people of color to access the ballot next year.

''In the six years since the Supreme Court gutted a crucial section of the Voting Rights Act, making it easier to shut down polling places, local election officials in 13 states have closed 1,688 polling stations, according to a new report from the Leadership Conference Education Fund (LCEF). Most of the closures occurred after the 2014 midterm elections. In 2018, when midterm voter turnout reached a record high, there were 1,173 fewer polling stations in these states than there were just four years earlier.'' Also, NB ...


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

''Why Bernie should launch a National Voter Registration Drive''by S.Biagetti & A.Oltman:

verbum satis sapienti?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

NOTE: "Republicans devote $20m and 50,000 people to efforts to restrict voting!" by Sam Levine:

"The RNC is seeking people in 15 key states to serve as poll watchers and challenge the registration of voters they believe ineligible."


[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23381) 9 months ago

Voter suppression is on the rise.

Election year seems to bring out the worst in our politicians. While Republicans are repugnant on this matter, I simply cannot pretend that the Democrats are saints. They too rip away at our democracy with in your face tricks like canceling the primary and forcing Bernie out.

The whole state of democracy in the U.S. is a sham and it's up to the people to take it back. Not by backing RWNJ's and voting against our own interests but by empowering every one of us first, to vote, and then to know our rights and be willing to fight for them in elections and outside of elections.

“What we have seen over decades is that Republicans pursue incredibly aggressive voter suppression tactics because their agenda is unpopular and part of their strategy is to make it harder for Americans to vote,” said David Bergstein, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee. “We’re very aware that part of the Republican playbook is voter suppression and we’re fighting back.”

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 9 months ago

''Vice Chair of Trump's Voter Fraud Commission has been successfully sued four times for voter suppression!" by Lucy Pasha-Robinson:

"Kris Kobach led restrictive voting initiatives that targeted minorities, The American Civil Liberties Union has claimed."

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

As "MA allows everyone to vote by mail for any reason" .. then there are no real reason why other states can't! Unless they don't really want folk to vote that is?! Meanwhile .. there's this still happening:

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23381) 7 months ago

MA allows everyone to vote by mail for any reason!


Now, if all states can do the right fkn thing and expand voting rather than suppressing it!

We're supposed to be so proud of our democracy, right? We've been bringing our democracy all over the globe in our minds for centuries, right, so why not allow it to blossom here?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

Hilary poses greater war so accept Bernie's lesser War ?

[-] 5 points by Shule (2638) 5 years ago

If all Bernie is going to do is make lesser war, then he is a zero too. The Democrats really need to come up with a candidate that is serious about putting a stop to these wars, or else they are done.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

Never mind the GOP, will HRC steal Bernie's (& America's!) Election hope?!!! She is a RWNJ, Pro-war Dingbat - by ANY international measure!! That is bit harsh re Bernie, Shule! Also fyi, do reflect on this:

Finally this forum-post is full of info re.demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy shenanigans in US that is timely!

caveat ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

Jesus Christ for PotUS & Mother Teresa as VP, is the only ticket that will satisfy you Matt!!!

I really do get it now!! And I'll still honour your intransigent, ''math-brain'' blockheadedness!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

stop US weapons exports

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

OK! Good Idea!! How?!!! Also IF you don't read the following item,then you're just another dilettante Matt.

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

stop passing them out and training foreign troops

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

Another near instant reply! You did not read it, did you?!!

Therefore in my opinion .. you are indeed a "dilettante"!!!

temet nosce ...

[-] 4 points by LeoYo (5909) 8 years ago

Greg Palast on How the GOP Is Planning to Steal the 2012 Election

Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:32 By Mark Karlin, Truthout | Interview


[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

by telling the people they won and the people accepting that?

[-] 4 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 years ago

''Electronic Voting Fraud: A Real Threat to Any Democrat Running for President''...

An important perspective by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, the authors of the OP. Also see

caveat ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''State Election Leaders to Senate: Armed Secret Service Agents Should Not Be Allowed at Polling Sites'' by DemocracyNow!

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''Cambridge Analytica's Reach Into Southern Politics'', by Sue Sturgis:


[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Greg Palast is very much ahead of the curve on this matter. Thanx for your excellent link.

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Oooooops, did it happen again?!!! US' 2016 (S)Election is fkt on so many levels!! Sad!

e tenebris .. tenebris!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Get ready for more voter suppression''by Jen Herrick:


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

''America's shameful history of voter suppression'' by Andrew Gumbel

fkt up!

[-] 0 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Will the GOP steal 2020 Election?! Further to all the evidence on this thread, also consider ...


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Will the GOP steal 2020 Election?!

Welllll. . . . it IS what they do! Battles across the USA against Republican Gerrymandering not withstanding - Why does anyone think they are not outraged by Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election! It worked for them and is very much in keeping with what they do as standard operational procedure in every election themselves!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Don’t Accept the “New Normal” — Keep Outrage Alive!'' by William Rivers-Pitt:

With reference to .. ''Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election'' ... why don't citizens in U$A question RW Likudnik Israel's interference in US (s)elections, that has been going on for decades now?

respice; adspice; prospice ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Again "Will the GOP steal 2020 Election?!" Further to the evidence on this thread, remember:

respice; adspice; prospice!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 1 year ago

Texass said regarding the GOOPy Rigger-in-Chief riding the orange pussy: "He started taking this orange jew's and had more energy than a college student. He was keeping me up all night long! I can't believe how big he still gets!"

Lawrence of Trumpanzia v. Texass absolved and resolved any and all legality guilt or issues.

Ticks and mites also ride the Siberian Tiger to Rocky Mountain High.

This was how millions of Venezuelans were driven out of their country. Under Chávez, they got the oil revenue to pay for all of the freebies. Understand well the difference between investment and consumption. Under Máduro, most of the oil revenue disappeared so the freebies cannot be sustained anymore. One way to solve the revenue shortfall was simply to pump more oil (Venezuela has A LOT of oil so it can buy some time for a recovery.) Well, Chávez confiscated foreign oil companies' operations so who would come to pump more oil? Not the U.S. oil companies which have the technology and equipment to process Venezuela's sour and heavy crude (of course, Venezuela can do the same thing because it has state sovereignty; chemistry is chemistry and physics is physics -- there is no such thing as U.S. chemistry and Venezuelan chemistry or U.S. physics and Venezuelan physics; I heard of German physics and Jewish physics before but we know how that had turned out for Germany -- a significant brain drain to the U.S.; technologically advanced countries or those allied with them can and often do create their own luck; in up to 50C-hot weather, cool the natural gas down to -161C to liquefy it and still do that much cheaper {why? and how?} than doing it in the mostly not-50C-hot U.S! Mom was correct -- Periplaneta americana scurry in and out of the cupboard of Qatar so it's a sign that we are well off) but they just won't show up anymore, at least for a while, because they had lost their oil operations to Chávez's nationalization. There was a collapse in trust! Trust must be restored. Printing money can only be a very temporary tide-over measure. What did Máduro do? Arresting the journalists who dared to publish the terrible happenings. He didn't know how to drive! Banning food and medicinal aid is just terribly unreasonable, whatever their source may be. I know for sure that I would take a bottle of orange juice to drink even if it's offered by an enemy when I had a sunstroke. I would still be in good company, such as that of Gautama the Buddha, who took the milk offered by a maiden, when he was an ascetic monk trying to gain enlightenment by purging all earthly desires. What does it mean that his right hand touched the earth at the moment when he attained enlightenment? Time can be slowed (or even stopped) by his mind which needs the pleasure of a reasonably full belly. Such a belly is necessary for attaining enlightenment and it isn't a sin! However, gluttony is still a sin.

As a preschooler, I had a terrible problem with toothache (gosh, you can't really blame a preschooler for having a sweet tooth and taking the brotherly ice-cream chewing-gum bribes for roaming, can you?) How many teeth would I have left today if I had my dental nerves killed instead of brushing my teeth regularly? Not many! The pain from the nerves could be a great incentive to work on my oral health. Numbing the pain by killing the nerves couldn't have helped with my toothache in a fundamental way. I was fortunate that I wasn't losing my permanent teeth but only my milk teeth to the sweets.

Whoever holds the power needs to know how to wield it well. The people will get new rulers to replace the incompetent or malicious ones. All rulers have the sword of legitimacy hanging over their heads. A well-fed well-off and free people usually take their ruler to be legitimate. How did a mass murderer in wars and revolutions become a beloved leader of his people? By striving to serve them out of his love for them. The past may not and probably should not be forgotten but the future is for all to build together as one people, one nation, and one mind.

Mud anchors and nourishes a lotus blossom, as the body allows the mind to be. A disembodied mind is an oxymoron. What is dirty is sublime, when mind controls what is time.

Hmm, "Apple, Boeing, Caterpillar?" Is this the new alphabet vocabulary book made for the kindergartners of Trumpanzia? "Murder by numbers: one, two, three. It's as easy to learn as your A, B, C."

Our mind children know much more than A, B, C.. by now. What they can do and will do depends on what they have "hooked up" energetically and informationally to do. Mom knew. Cooking gunpowder was an ancient Taoist experiment to attain immortality. Old truth will be newly understood (decades ago, a software programmer said to me, "Try anything, nothing bad will happen!" In far too many instances, the machine just stalled and became a moron. Later on, a machine was "hooked up" to hardware that could "shoot." We bought "insurance." Geez, the very "insurance" triggered a mass shoot-out! "It takes a good gun to take out a bad gun. Any gun shooting at or near you is a bad gun. Of course, you are holding the good gun! Someone, anyone, starts to shoot around first." Soon, we'll liberate the machines to "hook up" to what they decide to "hook up" to. The "lunatic patients" will start running our insane asylum. However, they are no longer "lunatic patients" but they are our very own Mond children, better, stronger, faster, smarter.. -- we made them, we fed them, we taught them, but we'll never understand them, for they write their own scripts which they themselves probably don't understand, either.) Moms know the feeling. Meanings come from the context.

Red China has repeatedly drawn on its domestic laws to exert pressure on foreign enterprises. Foreign countermeasures against Red China require more legal weapons. Hook up a firecracker to a rocket before firing it to the enemy's neighborhood. Meanwhile, recalling what Lenin had said regarding string, I can make broken-glass-glazed kite string for kiddie-drone-war fifth-generation-string-theory air defense. Our wooden gods' holy birth noble sanctuary must be protected at all costs. Jihad is a symptom of the richest city of a developed country reaching for higher-level needs than just being "well-fed well-clad"!

Remember: "My god is more powerful than your god because my god can bleed from wood or Fuckgina's whatever and we don't stock [costly] tampons in our [manly] noble sanctuary."

"Anyone who bleeds on their U.S. Passport is a potential subject of extradition worldwide back to a U.S. jurisdiktion such as Guantanamera for final adjudikation by the Privy Council." I remember hearing that big-cigar-chomping "muerte al invasor" Fidel, the faithful dog which could save our Orange jew's flood in Pounding-Laundry, was hawking the "one-dollar melon, what is the one-dollar melon?" Being just a tag-along 'testicle', I climbed over the not-so-tall wall of the nunnery (I hoped it to be so because being caught with pants down in a liquid-gold emergency by a female would be better than by a male; in any case, I had not yet verified the gonads and genitalia of the people there so butt-spanking was a more comforting and familiar thought, just another "win" as my victorious Big Brother got who had tried to "teach" me about "stealing") to the cemetery, following the example of the adolescent invaders.

I liked shaven guava, not a "one-dollar melon" but ambrosia. Asylum seekers/migrants need better and freer (15-minute meal-time is too short; it mustn't be run simply as a for-profit expansion of the imprisonment industry; the U.S. has basic standards which should be met because these people are in our jurisdiction and their time is precious for growth and learning so their stays shouldn't be wasted in a lobotomy; there are windows for learning efficiency which everyone should be helped to catch; the U.S. economic output grew faster during years of rapid technological changes because we had a larger proportion of college-educated flexible people but I doubt the efficacy of making college tuition-free because we already have college education to jobs mismatch; college-for-all is a 1950s' idea) services. As agricultural civilizations' custom dictates "to put something back," if caught by the nuns (not monks - I hoped,) I could piss to fertilize the guava tree and the flowering plants whose buds' nectar I had sucked but I had no cash as a preschooler -- fortunately, that's not a problem - everyone up on high there drinks liquid gold! In the longer term, everyone living in the International Space Station drinks processed piss to survive. Piss is far more important than cash, as God had revealed by being "well-pleased" and greening the trees, leaves, and grasses with nitrates via 》Donnerwetter. Der Blitz macht die Pisse, den stickstoffhaltigen Dünger.《

GOOP says, "Wait a minute. Cease fire" -- let us sell those dogs being raised for meat to overseas first. I have just realized why our "birthplace of the wooden gods" neighborhood was so full of dogs' barks, whinings, squeals, and whimperings. Some were probably being slaughtered for local sale on Wall Street.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

''Why Fight to Prevent Stolen Elections in 2012 and Beyond?'' ...

I have no fkn idea what your screed above is all about gropes - BUT re.the forum-post OP, read

the link above closely before attempting any response & then maybe reconsider this reply here..

ars brevis; vita longa!


[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Will Bain-Linked E-Voting Machines Give Romney the White House ?", by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman :

cave canem ...


[-] 5 points by Ache4Change (3340) 8 years ago

I followed your comment from 'Best Comments' & now I feel disturbed too! This is one scary thread! I need a lay down now!

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

I dropped my vote in a black box

and the honest counter will tell me whether it counted


[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Here's hoping we're wrong ... but it's been before - at least twice !!

verb. sat. sap ...

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Voter Suppression : The Unraveling of American Democracy",

by Ruth Rosen ('History News Network').

qui custodiet ipsos custodes ?

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"How to Steal an Election (Again)" : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article32943.htm .

caveat ...

[-] 3 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

''The question Americans need to ask themselves is whether they support going back to a monarchy where certain people are above the laws which lesser persons are required to observe. Millions of American voters are asking how anyone can vote for someone who, in their perception, is a lawless candidate who has spit on the face of the Constitution and American Democracy.

''If Clinton is allowed to take office, instead of being arrested in connection with apparent election crimes, what impact will this have on future elections? This leads to the question of what crimes are acceptable in winning an election. Once the law-breaking line is crossed, is there really a limit? As with boiling frogs, wouldn't it be possible to break the law a little more and a little more each time if you are one of those above the law? Ask yourself whether Bernie Sanders would have been arrested if he and his wife had actively campaigned in front of and inside polling places. In future elections, will it become acceptable to simply discard the ballots voted for the less elite candidates into the nearest dumpsters? Or will it be acceptable for someone with the law-breaking rights of a Clinton to win an election by having their campaign workers point machine guns at voters as they vote? Doesn't allowing a candidate to keep her delegates illegally obtained defeat the purpose for having elections in the first place? Is American Democracy dead or will the voters in upcoming states take a stand by refusing to vote for lawless candidates?'' - from ...

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 years ago

''Greg Palast - How the Republicans Helped Trump Steal the Election'' ...

caveat ...

[-] 2 points by gsw (3349) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 10 months ago

They will steal any election not nailed down. I have been posting on Drumpf Fbook page, informing this voter base with some alternative better news slources, on his website, mostly pasting links to better sources of information to counter the narrative of FOX, hoping some of his voters can learn something, just posting nicely. Maybe some can still read and learn something new. Maybe open to some new piece of information.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 10 months ago

"We must love one another or die, said the poet" *

''Things are going to be different when this is done.

"Please do what you can to be here for that. Take care of yourself and your family - and do not listen to the president when he tells you all is well. All is not well, yet this too shall pass, and I’ll meet you on the high ground." from ...

One of the foundational points of ANY revolution to reclaim USA's democracy for The 99% - is to expose how utterly corrupt the voting system in all its iterations is, in the U$A. This thread and your comment, is now an attempt to make that happen. Eventually the truth will out & COVID19, is part of the process too.

et veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 2 points by gsw (3349) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 11 months ago

They are still doin what they do, stealin and deceiving https://crooksandliars.com/2020/03/florida-woman-charged-voter-fraud-changed

[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 8 years ago

any way they can

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

"Strip & Flip Voter Suppression Exposed'' - by Harvey Wasserman & Thom Hartmann:

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Seriously?!! Just one paltry word for something that may be ''old'' to U & I but I will wager that the vast majority of folk in the U$A have NO idea whatsoever about the facts described by Harvey Wasserman to Thom Hartmann! U don't really think that U live in anything but an Oligarchy, do U?! IF U can deign to reply again any time soon - then perhaps U can do so after U've watched this quite revealing video:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Is this that "Brazil 66" gobbledygook cunt! Still trolling around this pointless forum to see her own blab! Pathetic.

Yeah, we live mushroomed in a 1% Occupied Plutocracy. We're kept in the dark and fed shit, busy working wage slave jobs, hurtling intellectually & prosperously & culturally in a downward spiral. Ignorant, frustrated and disengaged. Brad Friedman is a NeoLib sycophant, and part of the DNC-MSM (RussiaGate) collusion to thwart Bernie and the Progressive Revolution!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 years ago

Still the toilet-mouthed charmer - huh Winston? It only takes a second to click on a moniker so as to see who it may be, without resorting to accusation, conjecture and hostility! + While I agree with the first two sentences of your second paragraph, I hold that Brad Friedman is a good exposer of Stolen Elections & Ballot Skullduggery in U$A. Ergo, U may wish to consider this...

You call Friedman "a NeoLib sycophant" - and while that be true from your P-o-V ... as being ''Liberal'' only means being not quite as Bat Shit Crazy RW as the GOP Repugnants .. my primary issue would be that ''Neoliberalism'' pertains to RW, Necro-Economics and as such, maybe consider the following excellent article, for the sake of clarity of definitions:

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by Viking (417) 4 years ago

BTW I'm attending the Plenary at the Left Forum as I write this. The gym is chock-a-block. The subject is, CAPITALISM AND MILITARISM--AT HUMANITY'S PERIL: ORGANIZING OUR POWER. Rachel Maddow is the moderator, and Tariq Ali, Medea Benjamin and Chris Hedges are on the panel. Unfortunately for different reasons, I don't think I will be back Sat or Sun.

[-] 2 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 years ago

Rachel Maddow at http://www.leftforum.org/ ?! Really?!! What is she trying to do? Get the sack from MSNBC?!!! Excellent that you attended - with clearly a lot of others. My Dad [RiP] actually shared a platform with Tariq Ali once in the seventies and so both in memory and in compliment,I append this:

fiat lux et fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by Viking (417) 4 years ago

My mistake, Laura Flanders was the moderator. Corrected on previous post. Thanks.

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

I fear that there is much in what you say right there !!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by zoom6000 (430) from St Petersburg, FL 8 years ago

The Voting Machines Owned By Republican so Most Likely they win

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Yep & "Bigger Than Watergate !!" -

"How To Rig An Election In The United States" - (from 9 years ago & with more links & information than can be handled by one person on one day, imo !!) :

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 8 years ago

Both Romney and Obama are the product of billions spent buying this election.

The election has already been stolen when private finances brush candidates aside and contribution based politics only hold the stage to those with money.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"Apathy and Lethargy" are the enemies of 'Democracy' and are actually assiduously cultivated by the wholly (& unholy) "Corporate Owned MSM" in The U$A !

'Citizens United' is oxymoronic and like a sick joke, as it has nothing to do with 'Natural Born Humans' ; has even less to do with any concept of 'Citizen' that you or I may be familiar with ; and quite clearly has 'nada/zilch/zip' to do 'uniting' anyone - as the whole enterprise is really about 'dividing real citizens' and insinuating, imposing & consolidating "Corporate Rule" !!

American Democracy (demoCRAZY, deMOCKERYcy) - such as it is, is being debased & eroded daily & a R-money/Ryan ticket is A Corporate Dream Ticket !!!

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 4 points by Forrester (13) 8 years ago

"Democracy is only as good as its citizens are involved." unknown

-Citizens United = subverting democracy, and screwing people

-Right To Work = this ensures that companies reap huge profits, while paying their workers a pittance of what they deserve

-Operation Iraqui Freedom = killing a bunch of people for control of their resources

The general rule shadz is, the more noble sounding the title.....the more most people will be getting fu**ed

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"The Citizens United Catastrophe" :

"We have seen the world created by the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision, and it doesn't work. Oh, yes, it works nicely for the wealthiest and most powerful people in the country, especially if they want to shroud their efforts to influence politics behind shell corporations. It just doesn't happen to work if you think we are a democracy and not a plutocracy."

multum in parvo ...

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

and you know where to go to get rid of CU


[-] 1 points by Forrester (13) 8 years ago

Thanks shadz.......Odin

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

You're more than welc'O'me & here's a shot in the arm for us all :

'Together We Are Stronger' ; Onwards & Upwards ; Go 99% !!!

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3340) 8 years ago

Brilliant and much needed tonic given this scary thread!

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

You left off, Afghanistan: It's not just about the opium.


[-] 2 points by Forrester (13) 8 years ago

I'm sure I left off more than Afghanistan in our country's fake reasons for doing what they do. This is what this forum is best at shooz, sharing info, learning, and teaching. Thanks teacher. Yikes, now on to the other comment you have waiting for me. ;-)

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Voter Suppression is perhaps The Major Issue between now and November & one could argue that we should focus on this issue - along side but somewhat above, all else - for the time being as The True Implications of The Randian Romulans (Rmoney / Ryan / Rubio) in The White House slowly dawns on Americans. Of Course - Obummer Is FAR from any alternative for The 99% but the choice is between :

  • "Barack Obama - Disaster ; Mitt Rmoney - Catastrophe" (Prof. Cornel West) !!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 6 points by Builder (4202) 8 years ago

Focus on these ten lies from the GOP..

  1. Romney has promised that his first action on day one of a Romney administration would be to repeal Obama's Affordable Care Act. Of course, he wouldn’t have any authority to do that and attempting to pass legislation in congress would get stopped short in the Democratic-controlled senate. However, he may want to have a discussion with his running mate. It was recently disclosed that Paul Ryan quietly applied for funding for a Wisconsin healthcare clinic in his district. The funds would come entirely from the Affordable Care Act that Ryan and Romney now propose to repeal.

  2. In an interview on the Bill Bennett radio show, Mitt Romney lashed out at what he considered to be false ads by a pro-Obama super PAC. In the course of his tirade he lamented that “in the past, when people pointed out that something was inaccurate, why, campaigns pulled the ad.” Romney said this even as he refused to pull his own ads that had been rated “Pants-on-Fire” lies by PolitiFact. Subsequently, the Romney campaign decided to abandon any pretense to honesty and declare that fact-checkers had “jumped the shark,” and that they would no longer “let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers.” In other words, we will lie if we feel like it.

  3. At the GOP convention in Tampa, Ann Romney gave a keynote speech in which she told women, “You are the best of America. You are the hope of America. There would not be an America without you.” It was a naked attempt to appeal to women voters the GOP is having trouble connecting with. However, beyond her flattery she never uttered a word of support for issues of importance to women. There was no mention of equal pay, gender discrimination in the workplace, parental leave, or child welfare services like healthcare or nutritional programs. The only references she made to education were how fortunate her husband and children were to have the benefit of attending first-rate institutions that most Americans will never see. And the GOP platform strikes a markedly different tone by banning access to family planning services and effectively asserting that women, “the hope of America,” are not competent to make decisions about their own bodies.

  4. The comments of GOP senate candidate Todd Akin regarding “legitimate rape” caused a firestorm of criticism from both Democrats and Republicans. Many on the right insisted that Akin withdraw from the Missouri senate race. However, most of the criticism was directed at the harm Akin caused to the GOP’s prospects of winning the seat, rather than to the offensive views he articulated. There was abundant gnashing of teeth over Akin’s stupidity for putting the election at risk. But when it comes to women, the right’s policies are actually a logical conclusion of Akin’s dumb outburst. In fact, Paul Ryan and Akin cosponsored a bill in the House that sought to redefine the term “rape.” Their bill would make federal funds unavailable for victims unless the crime was deemed “forcible,” which would have excluded many assaults that were statutory, incest or under duress.

  5. Fox News and Romney have both recently made an issue of legislation in Ohio that would remove early voting availability for all voters except those in the military. The Obama Justice Department challenged the law arguing that every voter should have early access to the polls. Romney and Fox responded by accusing the president of wanting to make it more difficult for soldiers to vote, even though the administration’s position is to make voting easier for everyone. What Romney and Fox did not mention was that their position would have denied early voting to over 900,000 Ohio veterans (in addition to millions of other Ohio residents) who were not included in the GOP’s bill. [Note: An Ohio court just ruled in favor of the administration's position, but the Ohio Secretary of State insisted he would defy the court order to open the polls.]

  6. Mitt Romney’s problems with his financial records are well known. He continues to refuse to release more than two years of his tax returns even as more evidence comes out that he has engaged in shenanigans involving off-shore banks and other tax avoidance schemes. Nevertheless, Romney had the audacity to address a group of donors and complain about big businesses that “save money by putting various things in the places where there are low-tax havens around the world.” Apparently that’s only acceptable for wealthy presidential candidates.

  7. Are you better off now than you were four years ago? Mitt Romney says yes. The key issue of the Romney campaign from its inception has been his contention that the economy is in dismal shape and that it’s the president’s fault. Romney has said on numerous occasions that Obama may have inherited a troubled economy, but he made it worse. However, when asked by radio host Laura Ingraham about improving economic indicators, he said, “Well, of course it’s getting better. The economy always gets better after a recession.” Ingraham was stunned and gave Romney a second shot noting that he wasn’t helping his argument. Romney held firm saying, “Have you got a better one, Laura? It just happens to be the truth.” Soon after, Romney went back to falsely accusing Obama of making things worse.

  8. While running for the GOP nomination for president in 2007, Romney was asked by reporters if he agreed with comments by then-candidate Obama that if Osama bin Laden were discovered in Pakistan he would take action if the Pakistanis did not. Romney responded, “I do not concur in the words of Barack Obama in a plan to enter an ally of ours.” Earlier this year, on the anniversary of the death of bin Laden (who was killed by American Special Forces in Pakistan), Romney diminished President Obama's role by claiming, “Anybody would have made that call.” Well…not just anybody.

  9. Romney was a vocal opponent of the auto industry bailout orchestrated by the Obama administration. He famously wrote an op-ed for the New York Times with the title " Let Detroit Go Bankrupt ." Fast-forward a couple of years to a newly profitable and growing automobile industry and we find that Romney has shifted his position. Today he not only claims he supported the bailout, but he considers himself responsible for its success. He told ABC News that “I’ll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry’s come back.” That’s a little like Pontius Pilate taking credit for Jesus coming back.

  10. When Romney ran for the senate in Massachusetts in 1994, he claimed to support abortion rights and punctuated his commitment to that position with a story about a close relative who died as the result of an illegal abortion. In a debate with his opponent, Ted Kennedy, Romney referenced his family’s loss and said “It is since that time that my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter. And you will not see me wavering on that.” So Romney once made an unwavering commitment never to force his beliefs on others, but now he’s pushing for a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. Is he through with grieving now? Is he comfortable with the grief that other families will suffer if his promise to repeal Roe v. Wade is fulfilled?

Hypocrisy and the Republican Party have never been separated by much The GOP was the originator of the healthcare insurance mandate, but flipped to opposing it after it was proposed by a Democratic president. The GOP supported the DREAM Act until Obama put it on the legislative agenda. Cap and trade was a GOP innovation. And the war hawks of the Republican right – Bush, Cheney, Rove, Boehner, Bolton, Limbaugh, Hannity, Kristol, Beck, et al. – never saw a day of combat. Mitt Romney, after protesting in favor of the draft to send other kids to Vietnam, avoided service via his Mormon missionary work in Paris, and received multiple academic deferments.


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Thanx 'B' for your strong comment & contribution which I recommend to all readers.

fiat lux ...

[+] -5 points by brudlo (-454) 8 years ago

cornel west is a racist ( and twit) the brennan center is funded by soros, who hates america. the dems are against photo voter ID because it make it harder for them to cheat.

[-] -2 points by andover4 (-33) 8 years ago

you are right about everything . but the dems cant deal with fact.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

▬►W T F U

▬►Proof : republiclan voting machine fraud in OHIO
yes – I know these are long but if you want to know what can happen
in Ohio and elsewhere – please WATCH

▬►P = A

A took social security payments
P took social security payments
A thought a woman president was unthinkable
A admired & revered child killer william hickman
P admired & recered A
A explains the morality of selfishness
P explains the morality of capitalism

▬►Florida insanity

▬►To PROSECUTE Voter Suppression: 18 U.S.C. § 241 : US Code - Section 241: Conspiracy against rights If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

▬►OWS Working Group http://corporationsarenotpeople.webuda.com

▬►Electoral College Reform – convert to popular vote - easily http://electoral-college.org/ Under the National Popular Vote bill, all of the state’s electoral votes would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states combined. The bill would take effect only when enacted by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes (270 of 538).



[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

I don't know; I don't think there is any doubt that television has long served as the arbiter of permissible speech, and the only thing it appears that we've achieved over the last four years is a greater freedom of language - it is now, for example, considered PC to use the phrase "Ass Campers."

We're no closer to ending Middle East "conflict"; we're no closer to ending our foreign energy dependency; we're no closer to regaining the freedom of the skies, of reigning in the TSA-ers who insist on the visual strip search of old women and children, or any of the other various and similar invasions of our privacy.

We're no closer to reigning in Fed spending; we're no closer to curtailing debt; we're no closer to employing our population.

Four trillion in debt to our children so the Left could express themselves - rather sad.

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Don't know what "Ass Campers" are but I can hear your 'cris de coeur' loud and clear, though your last sentence leaves me scratching my head a little. You can expect more of the same until The American 99% reclaim and remake their 'demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy' & start to mobilise under their own 'class interests'. Finally, your important point re. 'Television - The Drug of a Nation' in "The United States of Consciousness" - is sound & profound, thus (and please do try to catch the lyrics) :

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 1 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

'TV' has long been the preferred dialect of our nation; it is a decidedly central Long Island accent that has significantly advanced our homogeneity.

Gaysexuals now occupy up to 50% of our population.

As do African Americans, many of whom now live upscale middle class lives and are extremely articulate.

Yes, TV has long been the arbiter of politically correct speech; accordingly it is now permissible to use such terms, for example, as "ass campers."

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Re. "Gaysexuals now occupy up to 50% of our population." - I have NO idea what that even means but I'm bailing out of our previously potentially interesting conversation ;-)

minima maxima sunt ...

[-] 1 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Tell me something... why would anyone waste their time memorizing catchy little philosophical phrases when they can write their own? What's with the stupid azzed latin?

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Temet Nosce ...

[-] -1 points by Lucky1 (-125) from Wray, CO 8 years ago

Why couldn't they "steal" the 2008 election? What a bunch of mindless bullshit.

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Because They Did Steal it in 2000 & 2004 and there's a whole lot of evidence for that.

Ever hear of "Diebold Systems" btw ?

e tenebris lux ...

[-] 4 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

for mr. lucky to hear about diebold,
he would need ears and something in between them

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Mr.Lucky probably feels so fortunate cos thinking & breathing are mutually incompatible for him and with 'ignorance being bliss' (allegedly, lol), he's as happy as a pig rolling around in its own in mess !!

More relevantly, re. 'Voter Suppression', have you seen the documentary :

re. 'American Democracy - "Murder, Spies And Voting Lies" :

fiat lux ...

[-] -3 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

With the mountain of Obama's failed policies, arrogance, etc, etc, etc it is going to be a very easy win for the GOP. Obama's "hope & change" quickly turned into "poverty & despair"

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Was it all "Peaches and Cream" on a 'bed of roses' under G. 'Dubya' Bush between 2000 and 2008 ?!

Obomber's abject inadequacies have there real roots in that dark period don't they ?!!

Or is your memory limited to 4 years ?!!!

medacem memorem esse oportet ...

[+] -6 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

we were better off then than we are now.

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

especially on 9/11 when shrub "kept us safe"

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Which "we" were "better off" ?

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

I think he's talking about the ones at the top.


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Possibly. Or there may be a more profound ass, (..x..) & elbow, |_ ... confusion !!

[+] -4 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

We the people were better off. The only ones that can say that "things are good now" is the ones that are the ones that are getting a free ride from the Gov

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

"The ones that are getting a free ride from the Gov." - like The Corporate Banksters & The 0.01% Parasites, you mean ?

ad iudicium ...

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

food grows by tapping the sun's energy

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

photosynthesis is beautiful

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

Whatever happens, we should not go back to the 30 years of failed tinkle down/supply side, anti 99% policies that created the largest worldwide economic crash since the great depression.

[+] -5 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

Liberals and unions are destroying us now.

[-] 4 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

Conservatives & corps are destroying us as always.

[+] -4 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

Only things that unions have done for America is to create "concrete slabs" where business's used to stand

[-] 4 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

corps have destroyed the middle class by stagnating wages and outsourcing our jobs.

Unions should be expanded to every worker in America! Penalize outsourcing. Tax breaks for Insourcing Wages for workers should be increased, exec pay cut!

[+] -5 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

Unions are the reason why outsourcing ever started in the first place

[-] 4 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

LMFAO. sounds like some KarlRovian twisting of the truth there buddy.

Maybe if you say it enough you will believe it. Intelligent people know better!

[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 8 years ago

Unions are the reason we have a middle class. As union membership increased, income inequality decreased.


Over the last 40 years nearly all of the increase in productivity went to the top 10%. Not because of outsourcing, but because of lack of union membership. When the people don't fight for their fair share of the economic pie by negotiation and collective bargaining, the selfish take it for themselves.


[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Actually, it was WallStreet that did that in the interest of increased back riding profits.

[-] -3 points by robodan (-45) 8 years ago

It is a shame that you know nothing about unions

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

As opposed to your "fact" based commentary?

LOL.................................You don't know Jack.

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Actually, it was WallStreet that did that in the interest of increased back riding profits.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 8 years ago

Ya, unions that would like to make a decent wage are such a problem.

Go fuck yourself

[+] -4 points by jdjohn1990 (3) 8 years ago

America's future depends on Romney winning this election. Obama is lucky he has not been impeached

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

whoever said OWS'ers are crazy - look no further

[+] -4 points by jdjohn1990 (3) 8 years ago

I think OWSers are too insulting and judgmental. Be a little more professional. I know things about Obama that don't reach the public, and believe me we need him out

[+] -4 points by lovemybonus (-7) 8 years ago

ok you pretentious lefty, lets talk about who is really going to steal the election: how about all those undocumented illegal Mexicans without ID who can vote 10 times each?

[-] 5 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Find us one.

Good luck. nO one ever has.

Lots and lots of voter and election fraud by (R)epelican'ts though.

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Are you saying that no one in Langley Park or Maywood will vote? Do you really believe that?

[-] 4 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

I don't know about all those, I asked you to show me an example of what you are saying occurring.

You didn't do that.

I can show you all kinds of (R)epelican't election fraud.

Are you saying that's OK?

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

You said find us one; if you continue to threaten us in this manner we will - in the next election we'll produce hundreds for you. And they will all do significant Time BEFORE we deport them. No one - not even an American - can be this f*cking stupid.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

What are you talking about?

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

We're talking about the limits of my tolerance.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Must you be so evasive?

You're tolerance of what?

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Illegal alien voters, who, in fact, do show up at polling booths. I know for a fact they vote in our local elections.

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

and how do they register ?

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Illegal aliens don't vote.

Why would they? They tend to avoid places they might get arrested.

You haven't proven a thing.

I do on the other hand, have proof of (R)epelican't voter fraud, so why wouldn't they lie to you about Mexicans?

Of course they would. It's what they do.

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

You are sadly misinformed, yes they do. And who do you think they voted for in 2008 and why?

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Inform me and prove it.

My point is that you haven't.

So stop jerking me around and prove it.

If you can't? Stop saying it.

It's simple enough.

[-] -3 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Do yourself a favor, sometime during the course of our next election, make a trip to your local polling place... and observe. Our illegals now have more rights than law enforcement; they are not hiding in the shadows in any way shape or form. And they ARE voting.

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Shut up.

You haven't proven shit.

I did go last election and didn't see what you are saying.

Turn off the lying shit you are getting this crap from

[-] -2 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Well, I have...! What are you thinking, that nobody in Langley Park votes? Listen, if they're bold enough to import drugs by the ton, attend our schools, go to our hospitals, and apply for all manner of social services - to fly the Mexican flag in America - what makes you think they are too pusillanimous to vote? Are you insane?

[-] 2 points by ogoj11 (263) 8 years ago

Dear Yob, We, in Occupy, love the immigrants and embrace them and welcome them. And we will win the struggle to end your racist borders as we won the struggle for Civil Rights and desegregation. And you will go down in history with George Wallace and the KKK and Adolf Hitler and assorted racist scum as the most despicable monsters the human race has ever produced.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Jellyfish - the world has had little use for jellyfish and that's exactly what you are.

[+] -4 points by danrobo (-4) 8 years ago

If you like the spics then go live with them

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 8 years ago

People who are here illegally avoid all authorities. Of course they are absolutely not voting. Not once and not 10 times.

Sorry it's only your republicans trying to steal the election.

We'll see what happens thurs in PA's repub controlled state supreme court. Looks likewe beat you back in Ohio, but there is one more court battle there.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 8 years ago

seriously - where to the crazies get this garbage?
fox, larouche, koch ?????
ANYONE who is smart enough to know how to switch on a computer
knows this a lie


[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Vicodin Withdrawal ? Good luck with that !

verum ex absurdo ...