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Forum Post: The 1% Laughs because they believe you are too lazy and stupid to do anything constructive. Are they Right?

Posted 6 years ago on Nov. 19, 2011, 11:24 p.m. EST by stuartchase (861)
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The 1% Laughs because they believe you are too lazy and stupid to do anything constructive. Are they Right?

Here's a test: Bring down Toshiba instead of the ports on December 12, 2011. You will have everyone's support. Especially if you let them know about this stuff.

Toshiba America Information Systems, Inc. Digital Products Division 9740 Irvine Boulevard Irvine, CA 92618-1697 1-949-583-3000

They had a heavy hand in Japan's nuclear accident. It's only a matter of time before Japan's nuclear waste affects Americans.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-13/tepco-toshiba-jr-east-may-be-among-most-hurt-by-earthquake.html

They sold U.S. military secrets to the Russians.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/15/opinion/l-punishing-toshiba-is-a-secondary-boycott-809388.html

And Toshiba is giving the folks the shaft!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213279355#!/group.php?gid=2213279355&v=wall

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/toshiba.html

http://www.boycottowl.com/Toshiba/79

To get Toshiba, you need to create a paper trail. These are three agencies that can do it. I also think you should e-mail your congressmen and senators.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

http://www.bbb.org/

http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

After you get done writing these agencies, go to this link and post the links of the three agencies above!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213279355#!/group.php?gid=2213279355&v=wall

The more people know about their options, the more they can do to stop Toshiba.

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[-] 3 points by jk1234 (257) 6 years ago

Gerald Celante is not laughing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsUdaYY2FY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BbQUPv3NXM

"wall street is washington and washington wall street"

[-] 2 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Thank you for the link. Consider this ground zero for exposing Bad Guys!

[-] 2 points by HDThoreau (15) 6 years ago

Toshiba?? No! Don't waste your efforts on this detour to nowhere.

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

You call yourself Thoreau, and you try to mock my movement. How dare you! You need to go here to get educated!

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by HDThoreau (15) 6 years ago

What has Toshiba got to do with the criminals at the Federal Reserve cleaning out our treasury??

Toshiba is in Japan they could leave the USA and still have the whole world to plunder. Blocking the port is much more effective use of resources.
The MSM will yawn about a Toshiba blockade, how long do you think manpower should be tied up supporting your personal quest??.

You suggest going to the clan site, that would be great, give the 1% an excuse to start calling OWS the Ku Klux Klan, yeah right, thats the ticket.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

They had the power to sell our secrets to the Russians and Congress had to water down it's own boycott against them. They hold all the cards. They are the worst of the worst!

[-] 1 points by HDThoreau (15) 6 years ago

So they gave the submarine screw design away, thats ancient history now, get over it, the people involved are probably all dead by now.

Now you should be worried about the US nuke warheads that Israel sent to Japan and which may have been responsible for the explosion at Fukushima.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Toshiba had a heavy hand in that Nuclear plant that fell apart! You need to come here for the education!

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by angrylollipop (49) 6 years ago

stuartchase, we're not your personal army. Please realize that sooner than later.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

We were told to go after walmart and aviation week. Toshiba has made the U.S. Government it's bitch, and they did it quietly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba

They are everywhere!

[-] 1 points by CLASS118899 (3) 6 years ago

Thank you ALL for PERSISTENTANCE. “Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race”

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

go to this link to read part two of the Toshiba Horror Stories! The first link was accidently deleted.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/something-to-think-about-part-2-again/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by paulio9998 (36) 6 years ago

wtf

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Here's part 2. Welcome to the KTC. Are you down with us?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/something-to-think-about-part-2/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

That's nothing. There's more!

http://occupywallst.org/forum/something-to-think-about-part-1/

That was Yesterday's horror story. I will be putting up horror stories about Toshiba everyday until they get occupied!

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by youraloser777 (2) 6 years ago

they are right, ows what a fucking joke! the laughing stock of the WORLD!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

No laughing joke here. Just speaking truth to power!

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

When you are done at this post, come to this post:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Further Proof Toshiba's stupidity helped cause Japan's nuclear accident!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iowvm3LHSk4

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Toshiba commits warranty fraud and everyone knows it!

[-] 1 points by paulio9998 (36) 6 years ago

Are you trying to turn this into marketing game...? Give it up. Think broad. Please.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

We were told to go after walmart and aviation week. Toshiba has made the U.S. Government it's bitch, and they did it quietly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba

They are everywhere!

[-] 1 points by HDThoreau (15) 6 years ago

The country is disintegrating before our eyes and you are worried about warranty fraud??

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I am worried about warranty fraud, nuclear disaster, and our national security being compromised by these animals! They don't have to be our only target, but they are one of our best targets because they are easy and they do so much harm. It's something the left and right can get behind because they have screwed both the left and the right!

[-] 1 points by HDThoreau (15) 6 years ago

O.K. thank you, end of conversations for now.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Good, you can go play with your ball. You don't have to take my word for anything. You can get off your ass and do your own investigation. When you get smart the KTC is willing to accept you with open arms!

http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by americanboy (48) 6 years ago

Apple should be next.

[-] 2 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I'm down with that. Since they get some of their parts from Toshiba.

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 6 years ago

just chant the name of LT JOHN PIKE for pepper spraying peaceful students at UC Davis. involve his family, friends and neighbours. they too need protection from this psychopath.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Was he the one walking by spraying the people like he doesn't have a care in the world?

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 6 years ago

yes! those who don't care will be made to care. Respect Our Community!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Good, because that was awful. It was like he was watering plants. I can't believe his superiors allowed that!

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 6 years ago

cruel heartlessness, lack of loving respect for our young people, total brutal lack of respect for OUR COMMUNITY. a lack of respect for our humanity. a total lack of self awareness, a psychopathic delusion. now let him see how he looks. Lt JOHN PIKE we know who you are? what do your friends family and neighbours think of you now we know our children are not safe with you on the streets?

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I heard they got suspended.

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 6 years ago

we will hang them out to dry!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Good, if time permits, take a few shots at Toshiba too! Thank you for the support!

[-] 1 points by sufinaga (513) 6 years ago

will do!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Good, keep your eyes open tomorrow. I think I'm going to create another post to further motivate the folks against Toshiba. It's be out of sight!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

With regards to bioethics, unfortunately, they won't be enforced.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 6 years ago

Oh we're doing something constructive alright

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Cool, just to let you know, the reason I've picked Toshiba is because they have done a masterful job of fucking everyone. Whether your rich or poor, no matter how powerful you are, if you do business with Toshiba, they will fuck you. It may be hard to believe, but I have never seen anything like it.

Hell, if I had not seen and heard what they have been up too, I wouldn't believe it. Ironically, it was that Fox News that broke the story about Toshiba being involved in that Nuclear mess in Japan.

[-] 1 points by paulio9998 (36) 6 years ago

Ironically? Thinksmenot.

[-] 1 points by ronimacarroni (1089) 6 years ago

Wait what?

The nuclear mess in Japan was due to an earthquake...

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Had the plant been built properly, this might have been avoided, and toshiba had a heavy hand in it.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I know you're passionate about this, but I assure you, few care, and even fewer will act on this. Don't let reality impinge on you though...keep pluggin away.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

So, there's actually a company that is worth occupying and no one in OWS is going to do anything about it. OWS really is a bunch of losers if that's the case. Satify my curiosity, what do you care about?

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I didn't say no one; I said few. I'm in a similar position as you; I want OWS to adopt economic boycotts against corporations but few seem interested although I view it as an essential stepping stone and non-violent weapon. It's frustrating but I have to deal wth it, and accept it.

What was the moment when Toshiba first upset you ?

[-] 2 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 6 years ago

Yea sorry about that Rose but I too have my personal crusade, but we all need to realize that the injustices will never be addressed until the government is returned to the people. Gotta keep focussed. Thanks for understanding, I thought my silence would speak volumes. Thanks for staying and contributing, love your MAKE ME comment earlier! HMMM, do we all experience injustice? maybe that's what binds the 99

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Perhaps we should give some thought to what's best for OWS, vs sending it off on our personal crusades.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 6 years ago

I think what's best for OWS is to keep reading the 1st amendment. OWS appears to have stopped reading after the 'peaceably assemble' part. https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

and for inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3BYw4xjxE&NR=1 this guy pulled this off at the APEC dinner in Hawaii!! Enjoy. Peace.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

We might have caused a scene here and there, but this sight gives everyone a chance to voice their opinion. I am so thankful for OWS! We may not be perfect, but this is ground zero for the 1st amendment.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 6 years ago

then where's the petition?

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

http://www.bbb.org/

http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

and please let the fine folks at this link know that this post is where the party is at, thank you.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213279355#!/group.php?gid=2213279355&v=wall

You can also e-mail your congressmen and senators!

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 6 years ago

WHEREAS THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PROVIDES THAT:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

We do have free speech here! I haven't been censored once.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

February 17, 2010. Toshiba really is the worst of the worst. That facebook link: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213279355#!/group.php?gid=2213279355&v=wall

has at least 200 people on it. Since I don't have or want a facebook page, I need someone to post this info on it. I'm also pretty sure many of the people on their can be recruited to help boycott evil companies. What companies do you have a grudge with?

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Japan is in a near ELE, extinction level event, and to try to organize economic warfare at such a time, against Toshiba, would be morally questionable and would evoke extreme hostilty from the already traumatized Japanese, and others. Yet in your Toshiba fixation, you would willingly sacrifice OWS .

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Seeing as this company helped put Japan in the spot, yes. Further more, would it really kill OWS to go after a really bad company.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 6 years ago

I have read some of the complaints against Toshiba and have put them on my ever-growing boycott list. I for one will never buy a Toshiba product. Besides Toshiba, I am actively boycotting PepsiCo, Wal-Mart, Amazon, GE, McDonalds Corp, all Chinese goods, plus a few local businesses and this list will continue to grow.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

We also need to remember that we have embeded agents in OWS, some on this board, who will create diversionary and problematic strategies to use against OWS to entangle it and choke it to death. Asking OWS to go after the foreign corporation Toshiba, thereby creating divisive international entanglements is an example of the sophisticated psyops=pychological operations that will be used against OWS in an effort to destroy it. We must protect OWS.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

It's one thing to individually boycott Toshiba, but I think we need to think twice before we ask American OWS to engage in economic warfare/boycott with a foreign corporation; especially when Japan is in a fully life threatening and economic crisis already...not a good move at all.

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 6 years ago

I understand your concern. I would like to point out that Japan has one of the strongest economies on the planet, definitely in the top five. They are an economic powerhouse. A boycott on even a few corporations probably wouldn't have too much effect on the country's economy as a whole. And I must add, I sympathize with the Japanese for what they are going through and have nothing against them as a people. But we as a people have got to get a handle on what many (not all of course) corporations have done to our livelihood and environment.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

As I stated, it is fine to personally boycott Toshiba; but to ask OWS to engage in what is essentially economic warfare on a foreign corp; might be a lethal blunder. Further Japan is in crisis, and I'm not sure you have up to date news...it's dire, and a near extinction level event is occurring NOW. Ethics 101, no you don't launch economic warfare at such a time, unless you're the 1%. Are you the 1% gnomunny ?

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 6 years ago

No, rosewood, no I'm not. I'm about as far as a person can be from the 1%. And I don't mean to sound cold-blooded, but my problems are a little closer to home. We're all in a dire situation, some more dire than others, granted. But dire nonetheless.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Well let's hope you're not immersed within nuclear fallout and the products of nuclear fission..that's dire on a whole new level.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

We all will be covered in Nuclear filth when it comes ashore because Toshiba did a terrible job of keeping that nuclear facility up to code!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Amen Brother!

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 6 years ago

I personally believe mass boycotts could be one of most effective weapons. Targeting only those corporations that deserve it the most of course. We should also research the good guys and steer our business that way. In a year or so you would see a quantum shift in corporate attitude.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I couldn't agree more. Hey, if you have a facebook page, go to this link:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213279355#!/group.php?gid=2213279355&v=wall

And tell them to join us here:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-1-laughs-because-they-believe-you-are-too-lazy/#comment-392453

This post can be ground zero for going after bad companies, especially Toshiba, because I have never seen a company throw it's weight around like Toshiba, they have made the U.S. and Japanese government their bitches!

[-] 1 points by gnomunny (6819) from St Louis, MO 6 years ago

Oh, I forgot to tell you. Facebook is on my 'no-no' list. ;-)

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

It's on mine too. That's why I can't post the stuff myself.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

The Japanese are being terminally irradiated with nuclear fission occurring and out of control. Hot spots are being found miles away from the nuclear site, with their children 's urine laced with radioactivity. They may be facing the end of their civilization; and mass deaths within several years; and you want OWS to go in at this dire moment and start shit because your Toshiba computer broke ? Poor judgement if you ask me, and no compassion whatsoever.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Are you on drugs? This company is making a profit off the misery of others. You're the type of sadist who always likes to cheer for the bad guy.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I don't have any particular or personal grudge with a company. I dislike corporatocracy. I'm considering how to best empower OWS for what is to come, and provide it the required strategies to be effective. Economic boycotts analyzed from the position of what is best for OWS at this stage of development is my focus versus what is best for me. Toshiba no doubt is what's best for you..it's not best for OWS; but OWS may not be your concern; but just a opportunistic medium to get to Toshiba.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Toshiba was able to sell U.S. military secrets and nothing happened to them. They are parlty responsible for the nuclear accident in Japan and nothing happens to them. The rip off the middle and lower class and nothing happens to them. I think they should be everyone's concern.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

You're not protective of OWS AT ALL; you don't care about OWS or anyone but your self, I suspect. You'd place this young movement in the international arena of conflict; and what happens to it is not your concern. Let's hope others care about OWS more than you, and don't follow your lead. I know I won't.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I have given clear evidence of a foreign company that has pushed around the U.S. government like babies. If you have a better target, let me know.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

The present American government should be pushed around, and how much are you paid to divert economic boycotts away from American companies; and engage in psyops on here ?

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Toshiba has a base here: Toshiba America Information Systems, the company I am boycotting has America in it's name! It wants to be considered American. I knew your only goal was to destroy America. So, whose using OWS for their own selfishness now?

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Your agenda is set, clearly you will not be diverted from it; and the one stone, is assigned to take out two birds; OWS and Toshiba; scheduled for termination. I'm done..nuff said.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

You know, if you don't say anything, no one will know how stupid you really are. :P

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I'm confident that those who truly support OWS will recognize you, and the covert agenda and psyops you seek to sell here. While I may be stupid, there are many OWS supporters who are amazingly smart. Bye bye minion .

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Go tell the world! I want to bring down Toshiba, and I also want to bring down UPS because UPS provide cover for Toshiba. These companies are global terrorists! :P

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[-] 0 points by occupymission (8) from New York, NY 6 years ago

Vietnam Protest we shut schools across america to fight about the war - We shut down Highways- Roads -This is like a bunch of Bitches screaming and chanting for what - we had 1 purpose and got the pres to bring home soldiers - You guys cant close down some shit Stock Exchange lol -Wake up Kiddies lol

[-] 2 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

During the Vietnam protests, millions of people took to the streets, because of the draft, seeing the thousands of body bags coming home, and the raw display of carnage upon the troops and Vietnamese people.

Today we no longer have a free press; they censor the news and Americans aren't permitted to see the real cost of war; they keep a volunteer army which hides the horror. Today the police receive New World Order military training and have ray guns, tazers, sonic cannons etc.Today they use even more psyops and disinfo techniques. Your comment is needlessly harsh and contemptuous for those who are out there on the front lines. It's the one's sitting home of all ages who are the problem, and need to be rebuked.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I don't want to shut down the Stock Exchange, I just want to shut down Toshiba!

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[-] 0 points by Farleymowat (415) 6 years ago

I have a toshiba laptop and it is junk! Anyone else? Let's send our crappy laptops back to toshiba, first thing tomorrow morning and let our laptops occupy the return center!

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

This might prove more effective.

To get Toshiba, you need to create a paper trail. These are three agencies that can do it. I also think you should e-mail your congressmen and senators.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

http://www.bbb.org/

http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

After you get done writing these agencies, go to this link and post the links of the three agencies above!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2213279355#!/group.php?gid=2213279355&v=wall

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

The 1% Laughs because they believe you are too lazy and stupid to do anything constructive. Are they Right?........perhaps......

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

In the end, I believe what I believed when I first posted this, the 1% would be proven wrong. :)

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

Sorry, being bitter and facetious..

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

If you told me all this stuff about Toshiba two years ago, and you told me that UPS was providing cover for them, I would have said you were nuts, but I have seen first hand what these two companies are up to and I have had others give me evidence that I can varify. The thing is never give up. And if you know of another company that is up to no good, and you have evidence, bring it. This post is ground zero for nailing bad companies!

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

Are you a fan of Alex jones at all?

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I've never heard of him. Who is he?

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

A certifiable loon.....no worries.....google him...you'll wind up at prison planet

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Why would I be a fan of a nut?

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

I refrain from labeling here despite the ease......

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I don't. I knew what you were getting at from the start. You are the only one I know who can hide their own easter eggs. :P

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

So, do tell..

[-] -1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I just did. By the way, thank you for your support! :)

[-] 0 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

Ah, macabre Dickensian standards; well done.

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Thank you! Whatever it takes to stop bad companies. I speak truth to power!

[-] 1 points by Joyce (375) 6 years ago

S. Crane sums it up in his poem "In The Desert"

In the desert I saw a creature, naked, bestial,  Who, squatting upon the ground, Held his heart in his hands, And ate of it. I said: "Is it good, friend?" "It is bitter- bitter," he answered; " But I like it Because it is bitter, And because it is my heart."

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I couldn't agree more! :)

[-] 0 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

Your alternatives ideas seem to be more destruction, not construction. Construct something that gives main street power.

Construct a change in the debt laws. Justifiable debt restructure shall not require a default first, make that the law and you have scored a huge victory for the 99%.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Getting rid of Toshiba is like getting rid of weeds so you can plant beautiful flowers!

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

Or you could prune Toshiba.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Not really, they are in the business of ripping people off. They even screw over their allies. The good thing is they aren't very bright.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Yes you would tactically kill two birds with one stone. OWS would be targeted by foreign governments who don't want their corporations boycotted by an American social movement; and Toshiba would have it's bottom line crushed; eliminating the competition. So your strategy would take down two enemies with one action....great military tactics. It's so nice having the minions of the 1% on this board lol

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

No, we need OWS to keep capitalists honest, we need to get rid of comapnies like Toshiba that engage in global terrorism. Besides, the nuclear waste that will spread around the world, partly because of Toshiba, warrents their demise.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

As I stated, you care nothing for OWS...and would sacrifice it, to fulfill your agenda.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Oh, no! You've caught me. I want OWS to help me stop a bad company! Call the police! Call the FBI! Somebody stop me! What's next? Are you going to post that we stop occupying wallstreet because America is broke and wallstreet is made up of global companies, and someone might get mad at us?

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I'm going to post that you're prepared to destroy OWS...a single intent.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

If we are going to occupy wallstreet, we can occupy toshiba. They are far worse.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Yes I can see the 1% sending their agents in, so if OWS does commit to economic boycotts; you encourage the boycott, but RE-direct it onto a foreign company thereby protecting the assets of the 1%. Oh the art of asymmetrical warfare; what a web of stealth and deceit lol

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

UPS is an American company giving Toshiba cover. I want everyone to boycott them too!

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

An after thought to cover your tracks....agent working lol

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Thank you! Without you, I never would have had a chance to speak truth to power. You might also want to yell at this guy, he is one of my biggest supporters, and gave me a lot of this info.

http://dingell.house.gov/

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

We are NOW in a police state..it's not business as usual; economic boycotts would provide OWS the means to create the economic pressure for change...as in congress, you will change the debt laws, or campaign reform or we will take down an offending corporation by global economic boycott...do you understand ! OWS needs economic FIREPOWER..and the economic boycott can provide it, which is why agents are working comments trying to divert the people from forming this.

[-] 0 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

And this won't hurt main street, boycotting their place of employment? You make an impact against wall street and their investor friends by taking their tentacles out of the debt that already exits.

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

So you believe you can go toe to toe with the power elites, change the power structure, contain their tentacles without some collateral damage to main street ? Guess this is a case of live and learn.

[-] 0 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

not me alone. I think the millions upon millions of people who are just in debt enough to never get out, specifically because of the interest rate charges, would want Justifiable Debt Restructure as well.

The banks got bailed out, we got sold out. JDR changes that and evens the score.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

In a real struggle for economic justice, with the elites or 1%, history shows that not only jobs are lost, but lives are lost, even if it is a peaceful movement. So we need to get real, or just go home.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

The arsenal of non-violent tactics used by peaceful social movements, are mass unrelenting protests, mass non-compliance; civil disobedience, and targeted ECONOMIC BOYCOTTS. When a social movement is truly up and running all these tactics are being deployed, often simultaneously upon the target, and adversary..a veritable blitzkrieg of direct non-violent action. OWS has yet to approach that...but it's only 2 mos old .

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will..." You need something to back up your demand...that backup is massive economic boycots. Come to a gun fight without a weapon or back up, and prepare to lose the fight. Mass protests won't do it, neither will chants. If you're going to fight then fight...if not then might as well go home and give up...cause the 1% aren't moved by protests.

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

Right now, a google check reveals I'm the only person to ever use the phrase "Justifiable Debt Restructure" (google in quotes).

It appears to me that even the Occupy Movement doesn't feel that Justifiable Debt Restructure is important enough of an idea to fight for yet. (edited out double negative at the end).

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Okay...I see the game...it's time for me to say bye by. Bye

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

hey Rose, I accidentally put in a double negative, I've now fixed it.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Good grief....I didn't notice, and it wouldn't have mattered any way lol

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

It's not a personal agenda if it affects the tens of millions that so far the occupy movement has enthusiastically embraced, those who are not making it every month specifically because of outrageous interest rate charges on their debt.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Don't go, you should stay we love you here, unless you want to go here:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/make-a-stand-join-the-clan/

This is where the Revolution starts! Hey, do you want a pink membership card or a black one?

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Good, you can start with Toshiba. Everyone knows they suck. Just ask Congressman John Dingle. He's been helping me take them down!

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Sorry, it's Dingell. http://dingell.house.gov/

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Economic boycotts would open an entire economic dimension to OWS, empower main street, and bring in more supporters. However the tactic of economic boycotts needs, if implemented, to be restricted to American corporations, vs foreign. Mr Chase wants OWS set upon foreign corporations which would aid in it's demise; which he is apparently strategically seeking. If we implement economic boycotts and we definitely should; each population of Global Occupy needs to propose boycotting the companies of it's own nation; AND THEN ASK OTHER OCCUPATIONS TO SUPPORT THEIR BOYCOTT. This helps to assure that foreign entanglements and hostilities won't be orchestrated by minions of the 1%. OWS should focus on American companies, and ask global occupy to support the boycott. Canadian occupy should target canadian corp; asking others to support etc.

[-] 0 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

This hurts main street, many of whom work for these corporations. I believe it is more effective to reduce debt among the 99%, less debt means more free time to make a difference.

Justifiable debt restructuring without being declared in default would be a huge victory for the 99%.

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

The corporations have already caused the loss of millions of jobs by offshoring and labor eliminating technologies. Boycott or not they intend to eliminate millions more. They have also seized control of the government, and intend to advance the police state, military industrial complex and penal industry. How are you going to compel a now criminal and bought out congress to consider debt restructuring ? When we cut the military and end wars, jobs are lost as well; so I guess we better not try to stop the perpetual wars of the elites either.

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

there are about 100 million people in the U.S. who don't know what Occupy wants. Justifiable Debt Restructure, aka JDR, would be an incredible start.

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

How do you intend to make a fascist police state with a corrupt sold out government implement JDR ?

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

How do I get the Occupy Movement to adopt this incredibly powerful concept as one of their talking points, first?

http://occupynews.blogspot.com/2011/11/justifiable-debt-restructure-would.html

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I asked you a question, several times. I'm assuming you have no answer to the question I asked you; nor do you have an answer to your concern. Maybe you need to consider the prerequisites before you try to sell incredibly powerful concepts...like how we get past the powerful criminal cabal that has hijacked our government .

[-] 1 points by OccupyNews (1220) 6 years ago

If the Occupy Movement does not publicly support this idea, then who will? And then the second question would be, why not support Justifiable Debt Restructure?

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

I'm sure stuartchase can help you with that question; define your term JDR first .

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

If a foreign company wants to commit global terrorism, I'm gonna occupy the shit out of them!

Here's something to rock out to while occupying bastards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_GMgkcc2KM&feature=related

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Take a look at your own country if you want to see global terrorism. Keep slinging the bullshit psyops lol

CHILDREN IN SIRTE GETTING KILLED BY our NATO ALLIED FORCES US-EU MURDER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EAyivxtQSo

[WARNING] Children being hurt in Libya [RAW GRAPHIC FOOTAGE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PyWvnco2-E&feature=related

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

My own country? You live here to. Besides, I'm not slinging bullshit, I've backed up everything I've said, Toshiba Sympathizer! :P

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Disinformation operative ...lol Toshiba isn't your target ...OWS IS ! Asymmetric warfare ...pretend the target is Toshiba...get OWS entangled in international politics and trade agreements...then watch it burn.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

Nope, Toshiba is my target, along with UPS. Your target is OWS, along with hygiene standards.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

You're just anti-social enough to fit into surveillance services and believe you're intelligent and invisible haha. silly agent man...I see you lol

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

If I was really intelligent I would have stopped these two companies on my own, but I'm not so I need help. Since OWS seems to want to stop bad companies too, I figure we make a perfect fit. Thank you for your support.

[-] 1 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

You seem contemptuous of OWS, hostile actually, yet you're here trying to psyop OWS over to your agenda. You want OWS to help you but you covertly speak of stupid, lazy and now hygiene. You're a walking billboard for stealth, deceit, disinformation,psyops, agent. You also have very low rating on people skills, empathy, compassion, and moral intelligence.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I know you are but what am I? :P

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[-] -1 points by Loves1Percent (0) 6 years ago

Stupid 99% pigs! You don't seem to understand that there is no stupid 99%. No one is with you! You don't understand there is only 4% of the entire population that thinks the way you do. Help me understand your reasoning. Please!

[-] 0 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I just want people to help me stop a corrupt company from fucking over the folks. Whether your rich or poor, related to the Ceo of Toshiba, or an Ally of Toshiba. Toshiba doesn't care. They will fuck you over. Just as UPS.

[-] 0 points by Loves1Percent (0) 6 years ago

First off, too much cursing. Stop using that word! What are you, 13? As any company, the recession has taken its toll on all buisness. Now if I cn take your direction away from Toshiba for a second, Germany is the one that will "f@^%" us over if they don't use their money to help the world with the recession. This is a stupid topicand shouldn't even be dicussed.

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 6 years ago

I disagree on all levels. first of all, you don't know what your talking about. Toshiba has been committing warranty fraud long before the recession. Second, it's the greed of companies like Toshiba that got us into this mess in the first place. Third, who are you to decide what should and should not be discussed?

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

As the economy falls, as the police state advances; as fascism envelopes the state; as food becomes hyperinflated, as the dollar is devalued, the larger populace will awaken to the horror, and many will resist; hopefully using non-violent means.

[-] -1 points by Loves1Percent (0) 6 years ago

Yeah right. This is a moderate recession only being prolonged by this occupy wall street motion. Police is only used to keep pot smoking and drug inject that attend your stupid rallys. The only facism is yours toward the upper class who most have EARNED their money (i admit not all) . Food is being devalued because of the recession which I have already explained is moderate and probably close to ending. And as in my first post THERE ARE ONLY 4% OF PEOPLE SUPPORTING YOUR CAUSE.

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

Most people, including you, don't know the severity of what is occuring in America, and the world, and many actually can't absorb what is happening because they think.."It can't happen here". You're cognitively impared, in denial, and dissociated from reality; so it's unlikely you'll understand even if offered the information.

The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=OCzR7NCeMYA

[-] 0 points by Loves1Percent (0) 6 years ago

You're the one that is blind! I completely understand what you are saying and I agree, we need to find a way to help people without making big mistakes. For example, your way of thinking is that America needs to give all the poor people the same money and benefits. First of all, that is socialism. And if history tells us anything, tht will not do well. Second of all, some poor people will take advantage of this system and NOT WORK. I think this would not turn out well. I have been studying your demands as well as your "constitution". Have you ever watched Malcolm in the Middle? That is the family (comedy set aside and only the core values of 6 family members, two low paying jobs, and a crappy house) that we should be worrying about as well as other real world factors. I'm actually glad someone is talking about this. Can't you keep an open mind? Don't you see what other people think of your Wall Street movement? They think you re crazy, even proffesionals who understand your reasoning. You're taking things to extremes here.

[-] 0 points by rosewood (543) 6 years ago

It seems you've brought into the belief that OWS is comprised of only one belief system. It's not true, so stating that "your way of thinking is that America needs to give all the poor people the same money and benefits."; isn't my belief. Additionally, I assure you most Americans like the form of socialism, that provides them unemployment insurance, social security, disability, healthcare benefits, SSI, food inspection, garbage collection, public education, police and so much more. All that is socialism. You're a follower, it seems, and what other people think, entirely guides your actions. I'm a professional, and employed; and I don't think OWS is crazy. When we're fully and completely in a totalitarian state, and we're almost there now; you'll still be following what other people think.

OWS isn't extreme. Extreme is the Patriot ACT, which suspends the constitution; Homeland Security, and Fema which is the equivalent to the German SS or Schutzstaffel; NSA, and NorthCom with it's battalions on home soil violating posse comitatus; and ready to takedown the American people, for the 1% and enslave us. That's extreme. Extreme is the trillions of dollars being plundered and stolen from the working class, and transferred to the 1%. You're pathetic, and already enslaved; but the 1% like people such as yourself..they call you their cattle...literally.

[-] 0 points by Loves1Percent (0) 6 years ago

Your causing this recession to be prolonged. No one likes socialism except for un working bums with nothing better to do but rally behind a dream of socialist america. You're enslaved by your own blindness to the fact that you are alone. The only German equivlant of this is that Hitler told all the people of Germany the Jews were the problem of their economy, that they were rich fat pigs. Do you see where that set us? The same thing is happening right no with you blaming the Federal Goverment for everything that is wrong with the world. They are not your scapegoat! I don't even listen to what the other people say about you. I am simply putting 2 and 2 together. You can have your First Amendment. But don't you see? Do you realize what you are saying? Socialism is not Healh Care Benefits with no consequences, it is not un employment insurance. This will leave us with everyone exactly the same. THAT IS NOT AMERICA IS ABOUT. We should all be able to have what life has given us. To have a unemployed man have as much money as you, an employed proffesional is just demeaning and wrong. Answer me this: Is is right to have an unemployed person recieve $100,000 each year from welfare and have a educated working person make the same amount?