Forum Post: Taking a Chance, The History of Liberalism, The Enlightenment, & where we go now that we are sliding back, Modern Fascism
Posted 8 months ago on June 26, 2013, 12:46 a.m. EST by Middleaged
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As usual I am the last to know in my peer group... But maybe not. The Industry I worked in uses the same phases I hear Matt Taibbi quoting for Ratings Agencies as they pressured Analysts to change the Ratings on Financial Assets prior to the 2008 Financial Crisis. There are many propaganda, indoctrination, Public Relations,... phrases that get repeated and propagated in both government & Private Industry. And it seems to come from the Bankers. I mean I don't know if all my peers understand that they are propagating the myths & propaganda.
Thanks, Shadz, by Matt Taibbi : http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article35406.htm
Liberalism first became a distinct political movement during the Age of Enlightenment, when it became popular among philosophers and economists in the Western world. Liberalism rejected the notions, common at the time, of hereditary privilege, state religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings.
Liberalism is the Political Movement that formed the USA. It also lead Nations to Revolution that threw off the Corrupt Monarchies and the age of unreasonableness (to enter the age of enlightenment).
We are all Liberals. Wikipedia states that conservatives actually supported the foundational ideas of monarchies, heredity (for Lordships, Power, Land & Rights), established state religions, ... I suppose Fiefdoms, Manors, Serfs as well.
Liberalism threw off the Monarchies. Liberalism brought in the ideas of Revolutions, Freedom, Equality, Liberty, Free trade, freedom of Religion. The first step was Classical Liberalism which is closer to Milton Friedman and Neoliberal Economics. But soon after we had Social Liberalism which included ideas that government should help relieve poverty, help with education, help with social security and help with health care
Most of our Philosophy comes from Europe. I see notes that Asia has not really followed our Western Ideas of Liberalsims that well.
Demonstrations in Egypt, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Turkey, Ireland, UK, Spain, Germany, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Portugal, Switzerland, Brussels, Sweden, Iceland, New York City, Seattle, Atlanta, Philadelphia, ... Brazil, Ecuador, Chili, Argentina, Venezuela...
We are still Fighting the Revolution for Freedom against the Monarchies, Oligarchies, Elites, Coporations, and Bankers. It is a fight against Human Corruption and Human Tyranny.
There is no Question about it. The GINI Coefficient, the Wage Gap, the Decapitalization of the USA, the Outsourcing of Jobs, the Money transferred to Big Corporate Lobbyist, Bail outs to Wall Street Investment Banks in a supposedly capitalist system, the Government in action to repair the Economy & Jobs, Government parties in Washington DC every Day while people don't work, face foreclosure, and take on Debt to live, to work, and to attend Job Training, and of course the collapse of the Retirement Savings, 401Ks, Pension Funds, and Retirement Funds. All the while the savings of people in banks makes no interest in the down economy.
But you knew all that already....
Here are some links on Liberalism:
Individualists are chiefly concerned with protecting individual autonomy against obligations imposed by social institutions (such as the state or religious morality). For L. Susan Brown "Liberalism and anarchism are two political philosophies that are fundamentally concerned with individual freedom yet differ from one another in very distinct ways. Anarchism shares with liberalism a radical commitment to individual freedom while rejecting liberalism's competitive property relations."
Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom; worthy of a free man, gentlemanlike, courteous, generous") is the belief in the importance of individual freedom. This belief is widely accepted in the United States, Europe, Australia and other Western nations, and was recognized as an important value by many Western philosophers throughout history, in particular since the Enlightenment. It is often rejected by collectivist, Islamic, or confucian societies in Asia or the Middle East (though Taoists were and are known to be individualists). The Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius wrote praising "the idea of a polity administered with regard to equal rights and equal freedom of speech, and the idea of a kingly government which respects most of all the freedom of the governed".
Modern liberalism has its roots in the Age of Enlightenment and rejects many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion. John Locke is often credited with the philosophical foundations of classical liberalism. He wrote "no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions."
Humanism is a group of philosophies and ethical perspectives which emphasize the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers individual thought and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith (fideism).
I think it is worth while pointing out that we don't want to fight each other, we don't want to allow the MSM to Separate us or Divide us. It appears that Monarchs have set out to divide us all along. And it appears that our Government & Media not only try to Dumb Us Down, To Keep International News from Us, To Keep History from Us, to Hide the Truth About the Deaths of JFK, RFK, & MLK, but also want to keep us from Talking to Activists in Other Nations..... And they want to hide the Transfer of Tax Dollars & Jobs to the Military, Security & Intelligence Agencies.... and they want to hide the King-Like Wealth and Opulence of Congressmen in Washington DC.
Your Manufacturing Jobs are gone or at least we need 20 Million of them back... but what you got was low paying jobs in the service industry ... while the Right Wing and Wealthy Built a Police State and in some cases doubled the Jobs from 2001.
So taking a Chance.... We all have to Practice Transparency, Practice Glasnost, Practice Humanism, and Tell people that are full of Rage that they are wrong and they are not wanted. We have to get Rid of Government Secrecy, the CIA, DHS, and all these Intelligence Agencies. After all the CIA has been caught time and again interfering with the "Right to Self Determination" of Sovereign Nations... all over the globe from the 1950s... till the Afghanistan War and Iraqi War... and the War on Terrorism. And what you see in front of you Is a transfer of Tax dollars to the US Security Apparatus and Industry while normal manufacturing jobs, Main Street Jobs have been Decapitalized.
The lesson is in History about Sectarianism or you could look at Secularism in "The Troubles" or Balkanization in Europe. As I see it the USA must break up at some point. But we would have more power as a people if we acted as a "Love Generation" in Humanism.
If you notice... Conservitive have created a Meme that Liberalism means all kinds of things that it doesn't mean. Conservitives and Republicans dis Liberals, but don't know that the US Revolution was based on this Idea. Liberalism is the throwing off of the Tyrants and Monarchs.
Now the Economic Policies are Neoliberals like Milton Freidman on Steroids. Politics is all Status Quo. President Obama is following Utilitarianism in that he says we are doing the best for everyone... but meaning we will not change anything. Barak Obama has only added to the Risk to the US union, US Foreign Policy, Privacy, Individual Rights, and clearly has follow the policy of Bankers and Right Wing Nut Jobs.
While this could be interpreted as a justification for state action to reduce poverty, it was used by classical liberals to justify inaction with the argument that the net benefit to all individuals would be higher.
Check out Max Keiser 462 ... He calls for Support for Capitalism since we have Crony Capitalism with a bunch of Cheaters that don't think they can make it without Cheating, Fixing the Markets, Fixing Libor, Fixing the Price of Gold & Silver, Fixing the ISDAfix,... We don't have free markets as he always says. If we had Liberalism, Social Liberalism with "True Capitalism" and with Regulations with Regulators to Enforce the Regulations and with Uncorrupt Court Systems to Try and Convict the Fraudsters ... then we would have "Freedom and Liberty".
Wikipedia makes the point that Liberalism faced challenges in the 20th Century from Communism and Fascism. I think Wikipedia mistakenly states that Liberalism won... I think that we have Modern Fascism.