Forum Post: Short conversation with an apparent racist? You decide.
Posted 12 years ago on April 22, 2012, 12:41 p.m. EST by DKAtoday
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Having asked a serious question about a touchy subject in what I thought was a considerate manner. Well have a look and let me know if I was wrong in my conclusion.
DKAtoday said 38 minutes ago at April 22, 2012, 11:56 a.m. EST (delete)
Sorry to say as you are fairly new here and all and I would not like to get off on the wrong foot if you are a fighter of greed and corruption - but your username kind of creeps me out. Sorry if it is an unintentional thing but it sounds like one of those insane KKK titles.
ImperialWizard said 29 minutes ago at April 22, 2012, 12:05 p.m. EST (delete)
My concerns over your, or anybody's, superficial and potentially very shallow judgments concern me nary one bit.
What's in a name? Especially one that is free for the taking and anyone can have?
I find your concerns quite interesting as my many personal conversations with intelligent and accomplished individuals, as well as many who originate and remain in the lower 80% of blessedness, reveal that a large majority of US citizens reject any message from OWS supporters because of their mere affiliation with this movement, which has demonstrated no earnest interest in truly being part of the 60%er's, much less the 90%ers.
Again, if my name was Adolf Hitler, would that make any of my posted messages less valid?
I don't think so and anyone who does reflects very mediocre and shallow thinking.
DKAtoday said 22 minutes ago at April 22, 2012, 12:12 p.m. EST (delete)
Well I guess without answering my question - which was not intended to be an attack , but just a query - you have answered my question. Huh the KKK still alive and nasty. How sad.
ImperialWizard said 17 minutes ago at April 22, 2012, 12:17 p.m. EST (delete)
You completely missed the point. It's much more likely that you are a racist or hatemonger than I will ever be.
I think the man is a genius!!! Just by the act of getting his name, he has the forum addressing him instead of the real issues of the day. Now all he has to do is sit back and let everyone else discuss his name, and his job is done. ImperialWizard I tip my hat to you, you are a master of confusion and distraction. Well done Sir. Now to all my fellow "grasshoppers" we need to learn from what he just did and incorporate this knowledge to our advantage. Think about it, but shhhh don't say it here, so he does not get the upperhand.... BC
Hey BC, stop by to see a little troll outing and follow-up slappage? We know what they are doing it is just fun sometimes to confront them - it also serves to show them for who they are to those not as savvy or aware or just plain new to the forum.
Good stuff!
Thanks racists are so foul.
ImperialWizard clearly has the Conservative gene :)
{:-D
I don't know. Maybe it got it's nickname in grade school when it lost control of it's bladder and moistened it's pants. It certainly missed out on intelligence.
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-07/health/racism.study_1_psychology-new-study-black-people
edit: If you are poor, it's because you want to be or because you're stupid
What the study fails to do is distinguish the unconscious aspects from the conscious aspects. The control of the unconscious is only countered by the poster consciously bringing up the unconscious behavior, knowing it or not.
So you're basically saying that people are unconsciously racist, which is the premise of the article. ;/
For more 'hidden racism' see this analysis: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
...but more people probably think discrimination in dating patterns is acceptable than those who think it's ok to discriminate in other parts of life.
Overt identification of unconsiously controlled behaviors really helps rather than making it mysterious.
That's all I'm saying.
People do not get the real message when it's not spelled out. Such is very common in many academic studies of psychology when confronted with the unconscious mind.
For the most part, psychology today is relatively juvenile because it fails to recognize the evolutionary subconscious; we are all racists: defense of our own, visual identifiers, identification friend or foe, etc. etc. True love and sex can conquer all but on the level of populace we never be so intellectual as to deny our own biology.
Psych today is forgetting about forgetting, here is the proof.
http://truthasaur.tripod.com/humanmem.html
The CIA was visiting universities and putting professors into a trance (MKultra tactic) and removing their capacity to understand or recognize the unconscious, enabling a takeover of the US government.
The professor in 1974 that wrote that book called "Human Memory", and forgot to include "dissociation", the most powerful form of "forgetting" that humans can conduct.
Psychology has gone backwards since then, America followed.
I can post example after example of DKA and several other of the "karma trolls" here, who are racist on the most vile levels.
To even suggest that I am a racist or anything like that, based on nothing more than a free nick name is quite typical of such entities and for free thinking people, should lend credence that their typed words certainly are not connected to any actual human that can be identified.
They are puppets whose scripts will be connected to an actual bought and paid for "politician" when election timing is right.
At this point, I will call your bluff. You go "right" ahead and do that.
Though as an alleged "new" member, I will ask you under what other usernames you have posted here.
I would also ask, what is it you think you're the "imperial wizard" of?
"imperial wizard" of spewage would be my 1st guess.
OH - BTW - your imperial nastyness - bring it on. You shit spewing trolls have nothing to stand on.
Yeah, I find it strange when a "new" user comes in with all sorts of accusations. Like he's clairvoyant. With a user name designed to inflame.
A magical mystical wizard, of something or other, and I doubt that's good Karma.
Of course, as if people do not lurk and read any forum prior to posting or even registering to post.
That never happens.
What it is, is a convenient excuse.
As is your refusal to be honest.
Care to answer any of the questions asked?
why waste time?
Can't you tell by the name?
He's very, very shy.............:)
Of course, you are correct! Just jump on in registered with your actual name, rank, serial number and physical address. Then, post away.
Everyone does that here.
I doubt it will ever dawn on the forum's minority here, that truly believe their padded scores reflect the actual majority, that many people don't want the same exact things they seem convinced are the only viable solutions.
So yeah, why waste any time with such a sham as this forum represents seems to be very timely sage.
Such a lot of effort, to say so little.
What "minority" are you speaking of?
just about anyone has more "followers" than me
I'm afraid my points are mostly from post count
Stupid trolls stupid supporters of greed and corruption, I wonder how many of these intellectually challenged dupes are from IronButt's PR site.
Let's see, the admin inexplicably deleted a open and reasonable exchange between myself and another padded user, on the topic of minimum/living wages and the difference between POLITICS and actual government between myself and another forum all star hate monger..... and you flail about trying to paint me racist?
Odd, I haven't seen any of you publicly attacking any of the black panther monickers here.
Big difference in Black panther and KKK for one thing. I go after anyone who is out of line "anyone". The difference may be in my approach to some who are not so obviously sick and demented.
Wonder why admin would bother to block a post you made unless it was truly nasty. Many trolls post on this site and get their asses burned by good people calling them out. I wonder why "you" are so "special" to have been blocked?
Huh.
And I've posted what to convince you, or anyone, I'm a racist?
Not one thing.
In fact, the only plausible explanation for what was deleted being deleted is there were some really good questions, completely unanswered, as well as some ridiculious assertions made by some of your all star team.
For example....'Politics and government are one and the same by definition'............
my response was a very nasty, 'not even close'
So... what was cleaned up was the all star team painting themselves stupid and admitting not having answers to very valid questions.
That wasn't a valid response to the statement.
Then there is your "choice" for a username. Are we supposed to pretend we don't know what the term represents?
You never said what you think you are the wizard of.
I'll make a deal with you, when you register and post with your real and verifiable name, I will too.
That wasn't a valid response either.
Besides I like this username, it feels homey.
That's an issue you should take up with the WC3.
I chose this name for it's innocuousness.
Why did you "choose" yours?
Right, why don't you take me up on my offer for reasons of forth-righteousness?
Why would I want to make a deal with you?
What would such a "deal" have to do with OWS?
Why is it, it's only my name you are interested in?
Oh, and since you're being childish....I asked you first!
Back to the point, "Why is it, it's only my name you are interested in?"
Indeed...... make your predictable knee-jerk reactions and completely miss the very valid points.
However, I do find it quite revealing that several of you do indeed hide behind fictional monickers.
Well I guess we'll just have to take your word for it.
Anyone seen the salt?
So according to you, it's ok for black people to have a racist organization, and only black people?
"Big difference in Black panther and KKK for one thing."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party
http://occupywallst.org/forum/are-the-black-panthers-or-the-very-black-panthers-/
Still, regardless of how much a racist you are, I'm not at all.
Where's the salt? Anyone?
Sorry I just have a bit more sympathy for what brought the BP's into existence and for why they felt they had to go in that direction. It is to the KKK's credit that they exist. The KKK and all supremacist Shit Heads like them caused the fertile soil for their birth and growth.
So you condone and approve of a group whose membership requirements included raping a woman or killing another man. Ok, I gotcha.
Whizzer!!!!!! Still trying to beat a dead Horse?
Hear let me help you out - BP created from decades of slavery and abuse by the KKK and those just like them. Result a movement with a lot of anger. Result some monsters in said movement. KKK and supremacists all Monsters - born and bred.
Deal with it divisive troll.
[-] 1 points by ImperialWizard (0) 1 minute ago
Note NONE of the forum all star team members will simply denounce the Black Panthers. Just like TPTB in DC.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/295919/new-black-panthers-unpunished-threats-john-fund
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/13/eric-holder-silent-on-new-black-panthers-racial-animus
http://www.therightscoop.com/new-black-panthers-call-for-race-war-and-blood-shed-to-kill-crackers-for-trayvon-on-april-9th/
If you aren't black, please pay attention as this radical group is calling for bloodshed of crackers, honkies, motherfuckers, and whites in general.
Amazing isn't it, at any point those here could have simply denounced such vile racism, yet, anyone reading this thread can clearly see who the real racists are. ↥like ↧dislike permalink
The New Black Panthers have no affiliation with the actual Black Panthers. They are agents provocateur.
Wizzer - I mean Shit for Brains. I said no such thing.
OH and BTW monsters are free to roam where they will until caught and put away.
The supremacists are the only ones I know of who have a history in this country of thriving on murder rape theft and abuse of another race. At least just off the top of my head - because you see the greedy corrupt do so too it is just that they really aren't a recognized card carrying group with oaths and hand signs and shit like that. At least not that I am aware of. OH and they fuck every race over.
I could be mistaken about there not being card carrying greedy corrupt criminals.
There you go putting words in someones mouth.
Ancient troll tactic #1 (?).
Twist what has been said - ancient troll tactic #2 (?)
Geeze a lot of these tactics sound like ancient political tactics.
Huh.
Do you guy's really get a talking point tactic handbook to operate out of?
Are you part of Iron Butt's PR group?
Boy I wonder just how much money the greedy corrupt are flushing away there?
"I just have a bit more sympathy for what brought the BP's into existence and for why they felt they had to go in that direction."
You don't deny this group is indeed racist and advocated, still does? violence, rape and murder.
This does make you a vile racist and a deplorable human being. Just like supporting the DC gangs non-stop murder of persons in other lands who have never posed a single threat to any citizen of America, much less our nation's sold out Sovereignty.
Note NONE of the forum all star team members will simply denounce the Black Panthers. Just like TPTB in DC.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/295919/new-black-panthers-unpunished-threats-john-fund
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/13/eric-holder-silent-on-new-black-panthers-racial-animus
http://www.therightscoop.com/new-black-panthers-call-for-race-war-and-blood-shed-to-kill-crackers-for-trayvon-on-april-9th/
If you aren't black, please pay attention as this radical group is calling for bloodshed of crackers, honkies, motherfuckers, and whites in general.
Amazing isn't it, at any point those here could have simply denounced such vile racism, yet, anyone reading this thread can clearly see who the real racists are.
The point which I decided not to elaborate on in my first comment was that most people don't think "racism" is an important national issue; they think unemployment is. Perhaps 'hidden racism' is responsible for the higher unemployment rates of minorities (other than Asians, since people think they are hot/smart) but unemployment would still be high even if people weren't racist.
DKAtoday can ignore the unemployment problem and talk about other issues but honestly, the topic of this thread is irrelevant to OWS's stated mission.
Racism is rooted in the human DNA, a by-product of our survival instincts. But you'll never hear anyone say it.
Really???
Can you produce the report?
No. (go easy on me ,shooz, I know how 'passionate' you can get when someone starts throwing around statements they can't back up)
It was a pretty broad statement.
Racism, as we know it, is a learned trait.
It is largely a learned experience. But I wonder sometimes if it doesn't click with something deeper in our psyche. It makes sense, to me at least, that it could at least be partially explained by early mans' survival instincts. By the way, my comment under Misaki about DNA is 100% my opinion. You probably figured that out, though.
There may be some initial response to the unusual, yet whether it's fascination or fear is a learned response that can be un-learned.
Yes it can. My dad was a hardcore racist. A pretty intelligent guy that would say some of the stupidest shit when it came to minorities. I'm far more tolerant, despite his attempts at indoctrination. We grew up in different times though, segregated vs. non- segregated schools, etc. That helped.
In many cases it's an ingrained response, yet not hardwired in our DNA.
That's a whole different thing.
Ya'd think anyhow..........
for those who actually think......... anyhow
good call
Why? Do you not like to be aware of humanities attackers? And who is ignoring unemployment? We are here to go after the greedy corrupt who have caused this economic nightmare. You know nothing of me or my activities to be able to stand by your comment.
Your a newbie right?
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Or are you just another reincarnated troll?
You haven't posted in that thread, or offered any kind of argument for why it wouldn't work. (Don't bother, either; there's an FAQ that should cover any question or argument you might have.)
Therefore, you are either ignoring the unemployment problem (because you're either not poor, or don't mind being poor) or you want to fix it but you are too stupid to understand the solution.
What thread have I not posted on - I mean to be specific - as there are many I have not posted on. And you (x)- u - me much for a newbie?
Sorry, I meant this thread: If you are poor, it's because you want to be or because you're stupid
Which is just another restatement of something else I posted on here and that you replied to, which is why I assumed you were aware of what I was talking about.
Why would I want to feed a nasty troll post like that? It is way beyond the pale as obvious garbage so why bother going there?
It seems ImperialWizard is correct; you don't have anything constructive to say.
Not to shit postings - unless of coarse you consider calling it like it is constructive - then I have contributed constructively by pointing out BS.
Thank you for playing - please come again.
[-] 2 points by Misaki (21) 8 minutes ago
It seems ImperialWizard is correct; you don't have anything constructive to say. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink
You haven't pointed out anything.
To refresh your oxygen starved brain (? - benefit of the doubt ) Your link and BS premise:
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 1 hour ago
Sorry, I meant this thread: If you are poor, it's because you want to be or because you're stupid
Which is just another restatement of something else I posted on here and that you replied to, which is why I assumed you were aware of what I was talking about. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink
My reply:
[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (6215) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 hour ago
Why would I want to feed a nasty troll post like that? It is way beyond the pale as obvious garbage so why bother going there? ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink
Your rejoinder:
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 52 minutes ago
It seems ImperialWizard is correct; you don't have anything constructive to say. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink
My reply:
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (6215) from Coon Rapids, MN 42 minutes ago
Not to shit postings - unless of coarse you consider calling it like it is constructive - then I have contributed constructively by pointing out BS.
Thank you for playing - please come again.
Your rejoinder:
[-] 0 points by Misaki (21) 39 minutes ago
You haven't pointed out anything.
My reply:
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (6215) from Coon Rapids, MN 34 minutes ago
As you wish so shall it be..................Huh? No that's not right .................so you wish........and I say dream on ............... yep - better. ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink
Your rejoinder:
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 32 minutes ago
You're not making sense. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink
My reply:
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (6215) from Coon Rapids, MN 24 minutes ago
Sorry if you are so easily confused.
Work on it, it will come to you. ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink
Your final follow-up:
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 0 minutes ago
I will quote back what you said:
If you were trying to point out some place where I was wrong or any "BS", you failed to do so. Unless you admit that you're not even trying to be constructive.
Sorry if my trust that you were trying to be constructive was misplaced, and in fact you were just typing random words. My confusion has been cleared up. ↥like ↧dislike permalink
My current final rejoinder:
There are you less confused now that the conversational thread has been reconstructed for you?
If not? Find someone who cares to spell it out for you in your native language - troll speak.
I will go back one post further. You said,
Sorry if you are so easily confused. You still haven't said anything constructive on the topic of unemployment or that thread. Five replies after I posted the link to something which you would have already been aware of if you had any kind of long-term memory and read the threads you post in, and you are still ignoring unemployment. You seem to be much more interested in increasing your post count than "go[ing] after the greedy corrupt who have caused this economic nightmare."
You don't seem to be rich, and don't seem to want to be poor, so I'll assume you're just stupid.
You can find find plenty of racists in this thread.......:)
Hope this helps you.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-not-about-race/
On the contrary I said that I was not interested in feeding Bull shit like this:
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 2 hours ago
Sorry, I meant this thread: If you are poor, it's because you want to be or because you're stupid
In case you missed your own input :
If you are poor, it's because you want to be or because you're stupid
That is a pure troll supporter of the greedy corrupt statement.
How is it greedy or corrupt? It's completely true. Did you vote in the last election? Did your friends vote? edit: did your family vote? If they didn't vote, why didn't you make them?
If you voted and your friends (and relatives) voted and you couldn't get anyone else to support what you were voting for, I'm sorry but you fall into the stupid category.
Nope sorry no sale: I started out stating I would not feed a troll post. You are the one who has been dodging.
Nice try but again - weak. Ancient troll tactic #5 (?) wow you just keep rolling right along.
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 2 minutes ago
How is it trolling? From Oh Internet:
Nowadays, the term is is often abused as an excuse to hide stupidity; for example: two users engage in a debate, when one realizes his argument no longer holds up, and then, in an attempt to save face, he derails the debate by accusing his opponent of "trolling".
This seems to be exactly what you are doing.
So I repeat: If you voted and your friends (and relatives) voted and you couldn't get anyone else to support what you were voting for, I'm sorry but you fall into the stupid category. ↥like ↧dislike permalink
Oh, well then. Enjoy your discussion about racism.
And now the classic change of subject:
Ancient troll tactic #4 (?) Your not making head way with your original bullshit and it has become more than obvious to everyone who might look in. So...........change your thrust.
So OLD SO LAME.
[-] 1 points by Misaki (21) 0 minutes ago
How is it greedy or corrupt? It's completely true. Did you vote in the last election? Did your friends vote? If they didn't vote, why didn't you make them? ↥like ↧dislike permalink
How is it trolling? From Oh Internet:
Nowadays, the term is is often abused as an excuse to hide stupidity; for example: two users engage in a debate, when one realizes his argument no longer holds up, and then, in an attempt to save face, he derails the debate by accusing his opponent of "trolling".
This seems to be exactly what you are doing.
So I repeat: If you voted and your friends (and relatives) voted and you couldn't get anyone else to support what you were voting for, I'm sorry but you fall into the stupid category.
As you wish so shall it be..................Huh? No that's not right .................so you wish........and I say dream on ............... yep - better.
You're not making sense.
Sorry if you are so easily confused.
Work on it, it will come to you.
I will quote back what you said:
If you were trying to point out some place where I was wrong or any "BS", you failed to do so. Unless you admit that you're not even trying to be constructive.
Sorry if my trust that you were trying to be constructive was misplaced, and in fact you were just typing random words that were unrelated to what you were replying to. My confusion has been cleared up.
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Nice judgement.
easy call
Well you have had plenty of experience in the time you have been here there has likely been thousands of trollish examples. Still skill and ability must/should be acknowledged.
Get a job! You obviously have too much free time on your hands.
Mikey I am shocked and appalled by your comment. Your not defending the KKK are you?
6,215 posts. Like I said, get a job.
You may want to take some remedial English courses too. It's "you're", not "your".
Do I detect jealousy?
Indeed, I do.
So helpful of you to lend educational tips while supporting racism. Mikey your supremacist masters must be so proud.