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Forum Post: NSA Spying On All American Electronic Communications: 32 Year NSA Code Breaker Speaks Out

Posted 5 years ago on Aug. 26, 2012, 11:30 a.m. EST by TrevorMnemonic (5827)
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NSA Uncahined: 1.7 billion forms of American electronic communications tracked and stored every day by the NSA. - Source ACLU

The system is explained by William Binney, 32 years in the NSA, and code breaker who resigned from the NSA in protest over the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping regime. He says that after 9/11, the methods he helped create for spying on foreign powers became pointed domestically – not toward people suspected of terrorism ties, but toward all Americans. - http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/video-nsa-whistleblower-explains-how-us-government-spying-every-single

Binney describes details about Stellar Wind, the N.S.A.’s top-secret domestic spying program. An amazing video posted on The New York Times website lays out in chilling detail how the National Security Agency is sucking up every piece of communication data in America – from phone calls to emails to cell phone location – and has the ability to tie together all of the information for a single person (watch him speak about project Stellar Wind here) - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/the-national-security-agencys-domestic-spying-program.html?_r=1

Thomas Drake, former senior executive of the U.S. National Security Agency, spoke out on ThinThread and more - http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/23/110523fa_fact_mayer

Stellar Wind

Why won’t the Obama administration reveal how many Americans’ emails the NSA has collected and reviewed without a warrant? Since last year, a few members of Congress—led by democrat Senator Ron Wyden—have been trying to get the Obama administration to answer a simple question: how many Americans’ phone calls or emails have been and are being collected and read without a warrant under the authority of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 (FAA)? Unfortunately, no one else in the government seems to want that question answered. - https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/06/why-wont-obama-administration-reveal-how-many-americans-phone-calls-or-emails

Why did this unconstitutional Bush spy regime policy get a YEA vote in 2008 from Obama when he was a senator? Senate vote record on FAA of 2008 - 27 D nays... 22 D yeas...46 R yeas... - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/110-2008/s168

Why does such a large percentage of the government seem to work for the Neocon agenda?

How can you dismiss the entire supreme court and overturn the citizens united vote and ban contribution based politics?

With how many people are bought into propaganda I don't see voting for real candidates happening in this country without dismissing the supreme court and overturning contribution based politics.

The majority of congress is corrupt to the tooth and the majority of people will vote to re-elect so many of them. Both presidential "options" as people like to call them are backed by billions from corporate and bankster contributions while real candidates with no financial backing are dismissed and go unknown.

How do you stop warrantless wiretapping when the majority of elected "representatives" are passing legislation to make it happen?



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[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

turn the eye back on the government


[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Yes. I'm glad you pointed out the participation by the private sector. And you're right... these corps happen to fund candidates and lobby legislation that helps makes this shit happen.

What would you do if you were an elected member of congress?

The information and truth on these illegal search and seizures of data has been exposed... so how are they still happening?


[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

You should really think about running for congress. Why not? More every day people need to stand up! You could definitely do it. And if you ran against anyone in my state, I would vote for you. I know we have a few areas where we disagree, but you're still miles ahead of the congressmen in my state.

Anyone that puts preventing the theft of our rights and reclaiming rights that have been stolen, immediately goes to the top of the list.


[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22851) 5 years ago

We live in a fear-based society. We need a change around to a love-based society where paranoia takes a back seat. Great post, Trevor.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

Thanks! A beautiful world is possible. People just need to open their eyes and minds.

[-] 2 points by ExposeTheOligarchs (37) 5 years ago

WOWWWW!!! That was eye opening! Thanks TM!

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

The truth is out there

[-] 2 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 5 years ago

I think that unfortunately with these things (like spying devices in automobiles) there is a regular progression of events. First they say nothing; then they say it's nothing much, don't worry your pretty little head over it; then there are breathless reports that privacy violations have occurred; then they say it's been going on for years, it's nothing new, you should be used to it by now ... and finally, at last, when these preliminaries are done, they make free use of the accumulated data for prosecution, lawsuit, or whatever purpose they will, since there is no longer any need for secrecy.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Good Post

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

"Once it takes in that data... it will build profiles on everybody in that data."

"You know that microphone in your phone.... they track that."

"The purpose is to be able to monitor what everybody is doing."

"You can't have secret interpretations of laws and not tell anyone."

"It's highly classified only because it's spying on Americans... extremely impeachable crimes."

"They came in with guns drawn for me."

  • Binney, 32 years in the NSA

Oh my god that's some funky shit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBzJrU25HUI

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (5843) 5 years ago

Everyone needs to see this.


[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I think they've developed a filter system exactly like you mentioned.


[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 5 years ago

And yet, when I walked into the post office with 5 boxes from chin to knee and inadvertently left my small digital still camera on the top of the my car roof, even after writing a letter asking to post a notice of reward, I never even heard back.

If we are going to be monitored for our own good, we should be allowed to get back our stuff as well.

[-] -1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago


[-] 1 points by LetsGetReal (1420) from Grants, NM 5 years ago

The Dems have done the opposite of their 2008 platform:

"We will restore our constitutional traditions, and recover our nation's founding commitment to liberty under law. We support constitutional protections and judicial oversight on any surveillance program involving Americans. We will review the current Administration's warrantless wiretapping program. We reject illegal wiretapping of American citizens, wherever they live. We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. We reject the tracking of citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. We reject torture. We reject sweeping claims of "inherent" presidential power. We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn unconstitutional executive decisions issued during the past eight years. We will not use signing statements to nullify or undermine duly enacted law. [...]"


[-] 0 points by dukehagen (21) from Anrode, TH 4 years ago

Hey Guys!

I know, this is kind of an old threat, but if someone still following it. I'd really like to know what you think of the strategy proposal regarding "fighting the NSA" http://occupywallst.org/forum/powerfully-fighting-the-nsa-without-actually-doing/