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Forum Post: Nothing really surprising in the election this year.

Posted 5 months ago on Sept. 10, 2016, 8:13 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ
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Republicans have been cultivating stupid within their base for several decades, only about one tenth of one percent are rich enough for it to make sense to vote GOP, so they need a lot of stupid people to keep them in office. Now those stupid people have chosen Trump, it's not hard to figure out nor is it surprising. Jon Stewart says it better here:




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[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 3 months ago

I agree. The people are going to steamroll the few that are trying to offer something different as usual.

Like a herd of buffalo charging at Standing Rock. And the people will side with the oppressors as usual.

Humans are extremely easy to control. Most of the time.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 5 days ago

people who are trying to "offer something different" can also be seen as trying to take control, maybe what we need are more people telling the truth and fewer trying to take over....

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

A WikiLeaks figure is claiming that he received leaked Clinton campaign emails from a “disgusted” Democratic whistleblower, while the White House continued to blame Russian hackers Wednesday for meddling in the presidential election and asserted that Donald Trump was “obviously aware” of Moscow’s efforts on his behalf.

Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University. “Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

WikiLeaks published thousands of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, providing a steady stream of negative news coverage of the Democratic presidential nominee during the final weeks of the campaign. Mr. Murray said the leakers were motivated by “disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.”

The Daily Mail report noted that Mr. Murray was removed from his diplomatic post amid allegations of misconduct.

The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Trump was “obviously aware” of Russian hacking to benefit his presidential campaign and suggested that the administration didn’t retaliate against Moscow because the U.S. has more to lose than Russia does in an all-out cyberwar.

ad iudicium...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 5 days ago

Assange works for Russia and Drumpf worked with Russia to defeat HRC.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

Assange is stuck in Ecuador's Embassy in London, with trumped up charges from Sweden hanging over him, as a pretext to extradition to USA. He does NOT work for Russia ... tho' that doesn't preclude them or others using & playing him. The Podesta E-mail leaks are authentic and there's no question that they are genuine. The came from inside the DNC. Look into Seth Rich and please - STOP pining for HRC, frf!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 days ago

Well Assange should be happy to be there rather than where Drumpf could get ahold of him!


Drumpf LOVED the sHillary E-Mail Leaks

But he absolutely hates people that would leak his nasty shit!


Ya know - leakers are criminal - just look at his latest News Rant.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

U$A should stop pretending that it is still somehow - ''A Nation Based on Law''!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by grapes (4755) 2 days ago

As the Conservatives' wet dream had it, our government is being run as a business, fast, efficient, and splat, the only problem being that it's not a business. Anyone who has kept their ear to the wall during the election campaign has no surprise of the contents of the very impressive Blitz of campaign-promise executive orders(which the Conservatives greatly decried as unconstitutional when they had come from the previous administration).

The U.S. will ALWAYS be a "Nation Based on Law." We'll simply get He-brewed extreme interrogation techniques, institute A.S.S.(》amerikanische Staatssicherheit《), use Israeli bulldozer-led "clearing" of legal settlements on occupied Dominion, declare Chinese "judicial sovereignty" wherever needed by our unsinkable aircraft carriers, and borrow from Allah's Laws, Shari'a.

Lit-hu-ania has the greatest waLL of all, visible by Allah, but doesn't it really belong in S-Iberia, north of Beijing of the Middle Kingdom, to block the Huns(Yellow Germans, the Moors, or White Russians, eh?)? Alla-hu Akbar!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

Say...WHAT?!!! Stop the day time drinking g!! Take up a post-lunch joint instead! Let me oblige you:

sub rosa ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 days ago

sHillary was un-electable and she was hurt more by her record/history/foundation and the actions of the DNC for screwing Bernie (and the Public) than by the Russians.

I am surprised that you would buy into that Russian CRAP that the DNC is pushing so hard to use as a misdirection from their own mistakes/culpability.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 months ago


Say wWHHAAAT ?!?!!!?

[-] 1 points by grapes (4755) 4 months ago

I worry about the continuity of governance. The extremely close election of 2000 got us and the world to our present dystopian state via partisan resentment and sabotage. 9/11 dug a very deep dark hole for all. Sanders no longer believes that he has a chance to become President. Will he be prepared to govern if the Presidency is shoved into his lap?

I abhor our two major parties' nominees for the Presidency but more 9/11-like aneurysms, such as 7/4, 7/14(already occurred in France), etc. are unwelcomed.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 months ago

The stupid they recruited from this time around = extreme haters of others (as well as hate of self = note women & minorities that support Drumpf).

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

guess what just did this, maybe i'll post some later


[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

you should watch the Jon thing if you haven't, it's good

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 months ago

You're right - Jon Stewart examines the phenomenon that is the Manbaby - good stuff.

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 4 months ago

jon is good and all that he says is true - what is interesting is what he does not say. he says nothing "empire" - the usa and its's almost 1000 bases around the world (or why we spend 50% of our tax dollars on the military?), nothing about triumph of wall street over main street and nothing about the outsourcing of jobs. these are all bipartisan issues. he says nothing about why someone in the bottom 80% of the population would turn to somebody crazy like trump. poor jon he is mouthing the typical liberal complaint but cannot envision a radical critique (that is a michael parenti line in case you were wondering).

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

If you've read this good, if not you should it is a 'primer" in my opinion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 months ago

old news - is this in response to jon's ommissions???

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

did I throw you off with "primer"?

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 months ago

it took you a week to think that up. at least you should have been able to come up with something funny. we all know there is no rational counter to what i wrote about the omissions - don't want to talk about them do you. and hey - when was that book written - 2003 or 4???

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Got Google?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

''By hyping the Russian “threat,” the neocons and their liberal-hawk sidekicks, who include much of the mainstream U.S. news media, can guarantee bigger military budgets from Congress. The hype also sets in motion a blocking maneuver to impinge on any significant change in direction for U.S. foreign policy under Trump.'' - from:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 months ago


[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 months ago

"Nothing ..." other than the fact tRUMP won! DNC/DWS/HRC & co., fkt this one good & may have killed Dems off!! But Dem Ostriches like Fancy Pelosi & Schmuck Schumer are gonna fix The Dems?!!! + Fyi:

Dems lost House and Senate & fk knows how many other down ticket races mostly because the Dems ran the 2nd most hated person for PotUS! Then told ppl she had 98% of winning!! Ergo - Complacency!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 5 days ago

me and Michael Moore weren't surprised by Drumpf winning

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

As you could predict tRUMP's victory, you should also ask yourself, ''how''?! I speculate that reason is a combination of knowing how deeply programmed by RW Corporate MSM you know ''Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving'' Americans to be AND the fact that .. Hellary Rotten Clinton was such a totally disastrous candidate - from such a disastrous and dishonest Dem Party Machine!! BUT frf ... there are more people organizing for more issues than EVER before & it has only been 3 months - since tRUMP was ''elected'' by ... less than 20% of adults in USA!!! Reform Dems - OR Thirrd Party For The People before 2020, frf?

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 days ago

No kidding - BUT - actually it was a very close thing that sHillary lost the electoral college - but enough people saw sHillary for what she is = One Of The Wealthy Few Out For Her Own Benefit trying to use lip-service to get elected. THAT totally made the public sick unto death - that - she did not get enough support to overcome Drumpf and his Hate Supporters!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 3 months ago

11/07/2016 election eve

On 11/08/2016 there will be no candidate who will support the general public on the GOP or DNC ticket.

One hopes that there will be a multitude of write in votes for Bernie or Jill

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 5 days ago

are you insane? do you want Drumpf?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 days ago

are you insane? do you want Drumpf?

Have you not noticed? We already have the insane greedy bastard! So whats the point of making this comment now?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 4 days ago

still the question remains are you good with Drumpf? or do you think HRC would have been better after all?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33007) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 days ago

I seriously think Drumpf is an insane asshole who will do his best to fuck things up for the common man (all of humanity).

That being said.

I also believe that sHillary would have been as bad for all of humanity - if not worse.


Because sHillary would not get the pushback from the public or from those in government that Drumpf is getting.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 3 months ago

i am thinking (hoping?) that the establishment wing of both parties is smelling the coffee. unless they are really stupid they are figuring out how to move the ball in our direction. they need to throw some crumbs to the lower classes or face real trouble in 2020. i am thinking we might see lizzie primary hillary if the clintons continue on their ruling elite ways. then 2020 would be a choice between lizzie and a real nazi not a reality show host playing one??

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 5 months ago

On Sunday Morning in USA consider:

So - how has the U$A come to this?

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8750) from Phoenix, AZ 5 months ago

We needed people in The Park demanding that Bernie get more air time.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Sadly. I'm not sure what Bernie would do with, ''more air time" - now that he too has fallen for the ''lesser of two evils'' road to spiralling into ever more evil!!! He knew that he'd been shafted by the DNC & DWS & we all know that even more as time goes by & so whyTF he chose not to go ''Independent'' or join Dr. Jill Stein on the Green Ticket (especially as she offered him the PotUS shot) - is somewhat of a mystery to me & squillions of others too, no doubt!! BUT The 99% Struggle can NOT depend on one man or woman and it absolutely has to keep rolling on - with a perspective longer than only one election cycle!

dum spiro, spero ...