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Forum Post: Nothing really surprising in the election this year.

Posted 1 year ago on Sept. 10, 2016, 8:13 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ
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Republicans have been cultivating stupid within their base for several decades, only about one tenth of one percent are rich enough for it to make sense to vote GOP, so they need a lot of stupid people to keep them in office. Now those stupid people have chosen Trump, it's not hard to figure out nor is it surprising. Jon Stewart says it better here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut8C_IOqEtU

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[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 11 months ago

I agree. The people are going to steamroll the few that are trying to offer something different as usual.

Like a herd of buffalo charging at Standing Rock. And the people will side with the oppressors as usual.

Humans are extremely easy to control. Most of the time.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 8 months ago

people who are trying to "offer something different" can also be seen as trying to take control, maybe what we need are more people telling the truth and fewer trying to take over....

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 10 months ago

A WikiLeaks figure is claiming that he received leaked Clinton campaign emails from a “disgusted” Democratic whistleblower, while the White House continued to blame Russian hackers Wednesday for meddling in the presidential election and asserted that Donald Trump was “obviously aware” of Moscow’s efforts on his behalf.

Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and a close associate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, said in the report by the Daily Mail that he flew to Washington for a clandestine handoff with one of the email sources in September.

He said he received a package in a wooded area near American University. “Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,” Mr. Murray told the British newspaper. “The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.”

WikiLeaks published thousands of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, providing a steady stream of negative news coverage of the Democratic presidential nominee during the final weeks of the campaign. Mr. Murray said the leakers were motivated by “disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.”

The Daily Mail report noted that Mr. Murray was removed from his diplomatic post amid allegations of misconduct.

The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Trump was “obviously aware” of Russian hacking to benefit his presidential campaign and suggested that the administration didn’t retaliate against Moscow because the U.S. has more to lose than Russia does in an all-out cyberwar.


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[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 8 months ago

Assange works for Russia and Drumpf worked with Russia to defeat HRC.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 months ago

oh god! not here please

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 months ago

OK I can agree with your sentiment on an absurd comment - BUT - why bring it up after 6 months?

Let it die the silent death it deserved.

Yeah - I know - MY BAD AS WELL - for extending the visibility of your comment and so extending the visibility of the original offending comment.

sHillary lost because of who she is - not because of outside interference - which would have amounted to nothing "IF" sHillary was not guilty of so much!

That Drumpf (the epitome of evil running rampant) was able to win - just shows how fatally ill our government has become - that so many people would not vote for sHillary to keep Drumpf out of office.

This whole toxic current administration "IS" the fault of government (professional) for SHITTING on the general public (increasingly) over DECADES ! So much so - that - sane people could not support sHillary (really a poster-child for the wealthy few) even to defeat insane asshole Drumpf!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Have you noticed just like Trump, Assange never releases anything on Putin or his friends?

You shouldn't be so naive DK.

"flip" is an idiot he is no surprise

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Who is naive? Drumpf is huffing water he is in so deep with Russia. Assange? Are you upset about sHillary losing (who is naive about sHillary? hmmm)? Like I said before and will no-doubt say again = sHillary would have been just as bad as Drumpf for the general public (and probably worse as she is not so public with her problems/greed). Did anyone ever refute what Assange leaked through wiki leaks? No I don't think so. Like I said to you else where - Why are You not in seventh heaven about all the damage that Drumpf is doing to the GOP from the inside? Insane asshole can't get anything passed as he sabotages every thing he wants to get done! You should be positively giddy with Drumpf's failures and his program of destroying the GOP.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

I understand that you are very happy that Trump won given how hard you worked to help him win I do understand. You are SOO happy that Trump not Hillary lives in the WH, but then you are a stupid shit aren't you?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

you are a stupid shit aren't you?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Well Trump kept Hillary out of the White House you are clearly happy about that.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Like I keep saying (you dumb shit) = Drumpf is personally doing the GOP the most harm in the shortest period of time "EVER". Where as sHillary would not have been so open about how totally she was screwing the general population and so would have gotten away with crap that Drumpf in his two house majority can not get off the ground!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Your expressions of gratitude are heaped on Donald Trump with great abound, like I said you are glad Trump saved you from Hillary, and I think that's stupid as shit.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Yes you are as dumb as 10 lbs. of crap in a 5 lb. bag!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 6 days ago

you already said you are glad Trump beat Hillary so stop pretending you are not a huge Trump supporter because you are, truth matters, sure i'/m pissed about what the DNC did to Bernie but i am not stupid, I supported HRC over Trump because unli\ke you I did not want Trump to be POTUS, what happens matters and defeating the GOP is the battle you are weak shit that don't give a damn about anything but your own shit

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 days ago

MY BAD (see edit below)

More on the Moron's attack on the ACA http://www.tpt.org/pbs-newshour/video/what-trump-ending-subsidies-to-health-insurers-means-for-you-1507934101/ If this is acurate - then - people who already are on the ACA program will not be losing - it will be people who can afford to pay their own way in the private insurance industry who will be paying more because of Drumpf's action.

So aparently the poor will still be OK - BUT - the federal government will actually have to pay more along with the portion of the public who do not qualify as being poor enough to qualify for ACA benefits.

Ya think that is gonna endear Drumpf to the public? If his asshole party (GOP) does not disown him - then they will be getting the blame along with Drumpf. You know the Democrats are going to be speaking out.

And OH almost forgot = 15 states have already filed suit.

EDIT : (mistake about who gets hurt and doesn't) - See with Drumpf's executive order - as things stand now - if an area has only one insurer and they pull out of the ACA - it seems that they would have to leave the market to dump any of their insured who are covered under the ACA - that means there would be NO insurance provider - which is why I am sure that like 18 states are ready to sue the federal government.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4988) 6 days ago

Mx. Cheese called for a no-fly zone over northern Syria to protect the civilians. I fully supported her goal but I had great reservations about her proposal. Russia was involved there so should we shoot Russian aircraft down if they violate the no-fly zone? That could lead to a big clash between the U.S. and Russia, the two states with order of magnitude more nuclear weapons than any other. I was hoping that TeraERex's Russian connections might just avoid any nuclear confrontations with Russia.

It's Not that I didn't give a damn about anything. I gave a damn about Everything. A nuclear war must stay verboten!

The neighboring countries next to Syria, such as Turkey, Lebanon, and Jordan should be lauded for taking in so many refugees to help with their plight. Without Germany's stepping forward, things could have been much worse for many refugees.

I had never expected that TeraERex would become unhinged like this, once out of Jurassic Park. Well, if all roads lead to Hell(it matters little whether we go by way of the Russian, Chinese, North Korean{Mt. Paektu volcano}, New Atlantis Yellowstone supervolcano, or Iranian nuclear bombs - we are not brand conscious of the "fire and fury"{aka "magic mushroom" of the globalized helpline}), the road we are taking is certainly far more entertaining and exciting than the others, don't you agree? After all, our people wanted a Bigly Reality show. This Scheiß-fest is far Biglier than I had ever imagined. Even Iran may join the fun, too. Amazing.. Grace. At false dawn, ejecta from Paetu/Yellowstone to the valleys are: whitehead fire, and brimstone.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 days ago

BTW = @realDonaldTrump seems 2 want 2 b t most despised president in history - his Ex order on t ACA moves him solidly in that direction!

Building pushback through his attacks on the general public. And the GOP are responsible for his insanity and inhumanity - they are attached to him like a Siamese twin.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 days ago

Look - we (the world) were shocked that an insane Drumpf could win the presidency - but it looks like for you that it knocked you so hard that you have lost all touch with reality. Get some help.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 5 days ago

"Look - we (the world) were shocked that an insane Drumpf could win the presidency - but it looks like for you that it knocked you so hard that you have lost all touch with reality. Get some help."

You are the one knocked so hard when Bernie lost that it put into the Trump camp, you're the one whose lost your mind,. it is because of idiots like you that the GOP has more power than ever before.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 months ago

yes you are right and now I am adding to the problem. I didn't realize it was 6 months old. looked at some new comment or something and saw the silly thing and couldn't resist. I will be more careful in the future!

and as an aside - holy shit - trump is reaching new levels of insanity every day!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Have you noticed just like Trump, Assange never releases anything on Putin or his friends?

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

one trick pony

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

Putin likes his trick pony Assange.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

you are so predictable - i could write your responses for you. dnc dnc dnc!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago

and you are so lame

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

so predictable

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 13 hours ago

I prefer to think of it as consistent,

you see I consistently oppose the GOP while you support people like Trump

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 9 hours ago

consistent is one possible way to look at it - boring and repetitive is another

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised to see him start dressing up in a Neo-Nazi uniform or Grand Wizard Robes! Well but his staff may have already been working REAL HARD to get him to remain with a business suit.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33164) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago Drumpf & sHillary being the two most toxic and disliked candidates EVER to be shoved down the public's throat (at one time as mitten was totally toxic too) and YOU don't want to push a 3rd party candidate? If you wanna be pissed off at anyone - be pissed off at Bernie for folding to the wealthy establishment and campaign whoring for sHillary! That Aside - This year could see a major loss of other offices for the GOP.

Remember Trump had your help with that third party bullshit, even that little bit of difference might have kept him from office so what he does is on you too DK not just the DNC. I was clear that voting for HRC was like crawling through a tunnel of shit, but it was what had to be done, you choose Trump instead.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-3-minute-clip-that-shows-what-we-must-do/

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

Assange is stuck in Ecuador's Embassy in London, with trumped up charges from Sweden hanging over him, as a pretext to extradition to USA. He does NOT work for Russia ... tho' that doesn't preclude them or others using & playing him. The Podesta E-mail leaks are authentic and there's no question that they are genuine. They came from inside the DNC. Look into Seth Rich & please .. STOP pining for HRC, frf!

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 months ago

Seth Rich? you are a fucking idiot! Shadz

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

Podesta/DNC/DWS e-mails, authenticity of which is NOT under ANY question - was leaked by, in all probability & evidence ... Seth Rich! YOU however, need to believe that YOUR beloved Hitlary Rancid Clinton was simply cheated by .. The Ruskis!! Seems to me that ''you are a fucking idiot'' factsRfukt!!!

fiat lux et nosce te ipsum ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Look I understand that you LOVE Donald Trump that YOU are so happy that he is POTUS instead of HRC but don't project on me I never expressed any love for HRC I just said Drumpf is much much much worse.

YOU on the hand LOVE Donald Trump are SO happy he is now POTUS!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

Are you actually projecting your deep anger .. at your GOP voting friends and family .. to all and sundry here?!!! I know that you kinda love Hellary Rotten Clueless but face it frf, she does NOT give a flying fk about you and yours!! Irrespective of your ardent devoted defense of her alleged concern for The 99%!

verum ex absurdo ...

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago

Look you didn't do a damn thing to keep Trump from winning you never came here and encouraged people to vote for HRC to keep Trump from winning so you may be able to lie to yourself but the reality is YOU LOVE TRUMP!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

I do what I have always done i simply tell the truth.

The thing you have to deal with is what did you do from June to November, You are not without your part in the election of Drumpf!

What others did does not absolve the DNC nor does it absolve you.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

So, "from June to November" of 2016 .. I pushed hard for Bernie just as even you did!!! U do what "have always done"!! Stick your head up Hellary Rotten Clinton's ample ass to see which way the fkn wind is blowing! News 4U .. she is a RW, Neocon abroad; Neoliberal at home - Corporate Whore! Now go read

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

You are as much the reason that Drumpf is POTUS as anyone else, you can stand in front of a mirror and bitch since all this is YOUR fault.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

REALLY?!!! Telling U straight factsRfukt - this blaming everyone and their second cousin, twice removed for Hellary .. just makes ''YOUR'' head travel further up ''YOUR'' ass!! Consider: Duopoly =/= Democracy!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Bernie was pushing for Hillary, and that is why YOU are part of why Drumpf is POTUS, you were pushing Bernie after primary was over, YOU put Drumpf in the WH!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Crooked Hellary Rotten Clinton; Corrupt Debit Wasterman Shits and the Corporate DNC - ''put Drumpf in the WH''! I'm sorry to say it factsy but you are either off your head or waking up inebriated from the night before!! Am I to hold ''YOU'' & your kith and kin in Arizona directly responsible for that Neocon-artist and all round RW War Hawk Lunatic, John McCain?!!! Get a grip now Mr.Grumpy & here's wtf is important...

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 months ago

back to where we started and YOUR support of the Drumpf election!

[-] 0 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

See ''Trump's America, Month Eight: Blood on the Pavement in Charlottesville'' - by Greg Palast:

So .. YOU think I was for a ''Drumf election'' ... when we were BOTH here pulling for Bernie?!!! But your lips have been stuck to GOP-Lite, Hellary Rotten Clinton's ample ass for some time now .. right?!! Dolt!

temet nosce ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

It is clear you love Donald Trump and are thrilled he saved you from that horrible HRC you are so grateful and in love with Trump;.

sure we may have both supported Bernie but in the end you shifted to Trump; to keep HRC from winning, you are a typical Trump supporter.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

''How to Fund a Universal Basic Income Without Increasing Taxes or Inflation'', by Ellen Brown:

The only thing that's ''clear'' to all but you here - is that you're barking like a rabid dog ... AGAIN!!! See IF you can glean something intelligent from that important link; by an important person; on a very important subject & then we'll talk!! In the meantime .. STOP being a fkn boring dolt frf!

et temet nosce ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago

Do you think your man Donald Trump will support this? After all you worked so hard to get him elected.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

Well Assange should be happy to be there rather than where Drumpf could get ahold of him!

See

Drumpf LOVED the sHillary E-Mail Leaks

But he absolutely hates people that would leak his nasty shit!

So

Ya know - leakers are criminal - just look at his latest News Rant.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

U$A should stop pretending that it is still somehow - ''A Nation Based on Law''!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by grapes (4988) 8 months ago

As the Conservatives' wet dream had it, our government is being run as a business, fast, efficient, and splat, the only problem being that it's not a business. Anyone who has kept their ear to the wall during the election campaign has no surprise of the contents of the very impressive Blitz of campaign-promise executive orders(which the Conservatives greatly decried as unconstitutional when they had come from the previous administration).

The U.S. will ALWAYS be a "Nation Based on Law." We'll simply get He-brewed extreme interrogation techniques, institute A.S.S.(》amerikanische Staatssicherheit《), use Israeli bulldozer-led "clearing" of legal settlements on occupied Dominion, declare Chinese "judicial sovereignty" wherever needed by our unsinkable aircraft carriers, and borrow from Allah's Laws, Shari'a.

Lit-hu-ania has the greatest waLL of all, visible by Allah, but doesn't it really belong in S-Iberia, north of Beijing of the Middle Kingdom, to block the Huns(Yellow Germans, the Moors, or White Russians, eh?) Alla-hu Akbar!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

Say...WHAT?!!! Stop the day time drinking g!! Take up a post-lunch joint instead! Let me oblige you:

sub rosa ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

sHillary was un-electable and she was hurt more by her record/history/foundation and the actions of the DNC for screwing Bernie (and the Public) than by the Russians.

I am surprised that you would buy into that Russian CRAP that the DNC is pushing so hard to use as a misdirection from their own mistakes/culpability.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

The thing you have to deal with is what did you do from June to November, You are not without your part in the election of Drumpf!

What others did does not absolve the DNC nor does it absolve you.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

The thing you have to deal with is what did you do from June to November, You are not without your part in the election of Drumpf!

If you mean I was alive at the time of this insanity that is the election of Drumpf - the timing of my life was not my choice - as the election of Drumpf was not my choice.

I spoke truth to those who would listen - to those who might act - it is no fault of mine if others chose not to face reality.

You can blame yourself for your failure to stop Drumpf's election (if you want - or must) - but I will not take blame for what I could not prevent.


Have you started trying to talk truth to power yet?

Instead of trying to pick a fight with people that abhor both Drumpf & sHillary - You might want to try to chastise those who were responsible for forwarding sHillary by screwing Bernie! -> The DNC made Drumpf's election possible!

New DNC chair Tom Perez want's to hear from you.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Did you "speak the truth"? did you tell people how important it was they vote for Hillary so that Drumpf would not become POTUS, you weren't here "speaking the truth".,

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 months ago

sHillary was NEVER an acceptable alternative. Get that through your skull

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

I totally understand, you completely supported Drumpf for POTUS. You have made that very clear, once it was down to HRC and Drumpf you went with Drumpf, that is why I say you are a fucking idiot.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

@SenSanders

Say wWHHAAAT ?!?!!!?

[-] 1 points by grapes (4988) 1 year ago

I worry about the continuity of governance. The extremely close election of 2000 got us and the world to our present dystopian state via partisan resentment and sabotage. 9/11 dug a very deep dark hole for all. Sanders no longer believes that he has a chance to become President. Will he be prepared to govern if the Presidency is shoved into his lap?

I abhor our two major parties' nominees for the Presidency but more 9/11-like aneurysms, such as 7/4, 7/14(already occurred in France), etc. are unwelcome.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The stupid they recruited from this time around = extreme haters of others (as well as hate of self = note women & minorities that support Drumpf).

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

guess what just did this, maybe i'll post some later

http://www.dailykos.com/user/factsrfun/stream

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

you should watch the Jon thing if you haven't, it's good

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

You're right - Jon Stewart examines the phenomenon that is the Manbaby - good stuff.

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 1 year ago

jon is good and all that he says is true - what is interesting is what he does not say. he says nothing "empire" - the usa and its's almost 1000 bases around the world (or why we spend 50% of our tax dollars on the military?), nothing about triumph of wall street over main street and nothing about the outsourcing of jobs. these are all bipartisan issues. he says nothing about why someone in the bottom 80% of the population would turn to somebody crazy like trump. poor jon he is mouthing the typical liberal complaint but cannot envision a radical critique (that is a michael parenti line in case you were wondering).

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

If you've read this good, if not you should it is a 'primer" in my opinion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 year ago

old news - is this in response to jon's ommissions???

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

did I throw you off with "primer"?

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 year ago

it took you a week to think that up. at least you should have been able to come up with something funny. we all know there is no rational counter to what i wrote about the omissions - don't want to talk about them do you. and hey - when was that book written - 2003 or 4???

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

Got Google?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 10 months ago

''By hyping the Russian “threat,” the neocons and their liberal-hawk sidekicks, who include much of the mainstream U.S. news media, can guarantee bigger military budgets from Congress. The hype also sets in motion a blocking maneuver to impinge on any significant change in direction for U.S. foreign policy under Trump.'' - from:

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

the Russian threat is going cyber I think...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

Russians ''hacked'' shit & IF they would have done such a thing for tRUMP, they sure as shit didn't do it & leave Hellary with more votes than tRUMP!!! Democrap ground game was crap & complacent &.. SHE was worst candidate they could have had!! The DNC & HRC want to point fingers to cover up & deflect & distract from their own ineptitude so .. Fk 'Em! Now Perez proves that .. Dems have learned N0THING!!!!

fk the latin and get angry and get ready ...

[-] 1 points by grapes (4988) 7 months ago

Russia used cyberattacks a long time ago.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 1 year ago

yup

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 11 months ago

"Nothing ..." other than the fact tRUMP won! DNC/DWS/HRC & co., fkt this one good & may have killed Dems off!! But Dem Ostriches like Fancy Pelosi & Schmuck Schumer are gonna fix The Dems?!!! + Fyi:

Dems lost House and Senate & fk knows how many other down ticket races mostly because the Dems ran the 2nd most hated person for PotUS! Then told ppl she had 98% of winning!! Ergo - Complacency!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 8 months ago

me and Michael Moore weren't surprised by Drumpf winning

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 8 months ago

As you could predict tRUMP's victory, you should also ask yourself, ''how''?! I speculate that reason is a combination of knowing how deeply programmed by RW Corporate MSM you know ''Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving'' Americans to be AND the fact that .. Hellary Rotten Clinton was such a totally disastrous candidate - from such a disastrous and dishonest Dem Party Machine!! BUT frf ... there are more people organizing for more issues than EVER before & it has only been 3 months - since tRUMP was ''elected'' by ... less than 20% of adults in USA!!! Reform Dems - OR Thirrd Party For The People before 2020, frf?

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 6 months ago

3rd parties do nothing but help the GOP win if you got any guts take over the Dems you can't build a party if you can't take one over.

Anybody who supports 3rd party is an idiot!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

You do realize that both GOP and Dems were both born out of other parties & were the "3rd Parties" of there time, right?!!! You do know that Abraham Lincoln won under 3rd Party on 39% of the vote, right?!! You certainly do know that the RW Dems/DNC are Corporate Co-opted and, VERY resistant to Bernie!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

and people like you with your head up your ass for 6 months from June to November didn't help either.....until people get off they're asses and start killing the GOP we're screwed

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 7 months ago

At this point tRUMP could well kill the GOP himself with that Budget yesterday (day before St.Patrick's Day, 2017)! I'm not sure how even the least psychopathic Repugnant Pol is going to defend that to their constituents!! Thing is frf, fkn useless Corp. Dems are offering N0THING for the 99% other than watered down versions of Trumpian horseshit - which is why they're dead too!!! Ergo see: https://draftbernie.org/

I'd read all the above articles & spread word and share the first link if I were you.Happy St. Paddy's Day.

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

Bernie Sanders? He's that fellow that was out there stumping for Hillary near the end wasn't he? Where were you?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Bernie is NOT "stumping for Hillary" now tho' IS HE?! But You Are!! Again from above: ''Thing is frf, fkn useless Corp. Dems are offering NOTHING for the 99% other than watered down versions of Trumpian horseshit - which is why they're dead too!!!'' This is my 6th consecutive reply to your bile and B-S - frf, just so I could see my other reply notifiers & frankly you AND I & almost all others on this (still extant forum:-) pushed for Bernie .. and you know that Bernie had the Dem Nomination stolen AND .. that he would have beaten tRUMP! U've tired me out lol & so my other respondents'll have to wait for replies &

pax nunc ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

you're the one taking about HRC and how much worse she would have been I'm just saying we are living with YOUR pick now

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

Instead of trying to pick a fight with people that abhor both Drumpf & sHillary - You might want to try to chastise those who were responsible for forwarding sHillary by screwing Bernie! -> The DNC made Drumpf's election possible!

New DNC chair Tom Perez want's to hear from you.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 6 months ago

in early 2015 where were you? i didn't see your posts supporting people getting to the primaries, sure after Bernie was screwed you became his greatest friend, as long as there was no chance you would have to get off your ass and vote for someone that could actually beat the GOP.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 6 months ago

how about chastising idiots like you that sat on your ass from june to november and helped drumpf win?

yes Bernie was screwed then it was June the question is,

WHAT DID YOU DO?

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 6 months ago

What did you do? Besides reward the corruption?

If parties are suppose to be ran by people, and people continue to reward them everytime they screw up, why would they ever change?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

I guess you showed the DNC, tough break about that Paris Accord.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 6 months ago

Hey! Hello You Stranger :-) and please try not to mind factsy ... as he has always had a bit of a serious, irrational soft spot for ''the witch who tried to bring America healthcare'' apparently,lol but NOT too loudly!

Hope all is well with U and yours &.. don't be shy about showing up around here occasionally.Solidarity!

pax, amor et lux ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

said he who elected Drumpf! remember Shadz Drumpf could not have won without YOUR support.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Less than 20% of All American Adults voted for Herr Drumf AND the same for Hitlary!!! So, WTF do you think that that means?!! You can't pretend to remain clueless about such matters factsy & IF you insist on screaming for change with your head still buried deep in the sands of ignorance and illusions ... then that'll leave your ass high & dry in the air & so I'll come along with a gentle kick now & again ... for your own good, you understand?!

ipsa scientia potestas est ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

it means if you had got off your dead ass and done something it would have been even more effective?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 week ago

IF your lips were not stuck to Dem / DNC / HRC's ass - maybe I'd take U more seriously! Dare U read...

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

I know how much you LOVE Donald Trump and are so excited by his presidency but don't put that shit on me I am the one who posted this

http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-3-minute-clip-that-shows-what-we-must-do/

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

You get that Hellary & the RW Corporate DNC'd rather lose to tRUMP than have Bernie be the POTUS, right?!!! They can live with Trump for a term or even two - BUT Bernie may have really threatened their Class Interests & Military Industrial Complex & THAT they can't live with!! Get it?! Re.Healthcare .. see:

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago

Yeah like I said you are SOOO in love with Trump, you keep forgetting Bernie supported HRC you didn't because you love Trump;

yes Bernie was a huge threat to "them" but in the end Bernie was sane while you supported Trump for POTUS

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

No kidding - BUT - actually it was a very close thing that sHillary lost the electoral college - but enough people saw sHillary for what she is = One Of The Wealthy Few Out For Her Own Benefit trying to use lip-service to get elected. THAT totally made the public sick unto death - that - she did not get enough support to overcome Drumpf and his Hate Supporters!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

and people like you with your head up your ass for 6 months from June to November didn't help either.....

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

11/07/2016 election eve

On 11/08/2016 there will be no candidate who will support the general public on the GOP or DNC ticket.

One hopes that there will be a multitude of write in votes for Bernie or Jill

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 8 months ago

are you insane? do you want Drumpf?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

are you insane? do you want Drumpf?

Have you not noticed? We already have the insane greedy bastard! So whats the point of making this comment now?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 8 months ago

still the question remains are you good with Drumpf? or do you think HRC would have been better after all?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

I seriously think Drumpf is an insane asshole who will do his best to fuck things up for the common man (all of humanity).

That being said.

I also believe that sHillary would have been as bad for all of humanity - if not worse.

WHY ?

Because sHillary would not get the pushback from the public or from those in government that Drumpf is getting.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

so I will put you down as a Drumpf supporter, must say I am mildly surprised

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

I will put you down as out of control

BTW

Instead of trying to pick a fight with people that abhor both Drumpf & sHillary - You might want to try to chastise those who were responsible for forwarding sHillary by screwing Bernie! -> The DNC made Drumpf's election possible!

New DNC chair Tom Perez want's to hear from you.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

You are as responsible for Drumpf as anyone else, what were you doing from June to November of 2016? Sitting on your "high horse"?

It is because of stupid people like you that we had to live through 8 years of W Bush and now we have Drumpf and still you spout shit!

Until people like you take your head from your ass and are willing to admit the Dems aren't prefect but the damn GOP is dangerous, we are all in danger.

We can fix the Dems but if we split by supporting third party ego whores then Drumpf and his ilk will just gain power.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 11 months ago

i am thinking (hoping?) that the establishment wing of both parties is smelling the coffee. unless they are really stupid they are figuring out how to move the ball in our direction. they need to throw some crumbs to the lower classes or face real trouble in 2020. i am thinking we might see lizzie primary hillary if the clintons continue on their ruling elite ways. then 2020 would be a choice between lizzie and a real nazi not a reality show host playing one??

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

On Sunday Morning in USA consider:

So - how has the U$A come to this?

omnia causa fiunt ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

We needed people in The Park demanding that Bernie get more air time.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 year ago

Sadly. I'm not sure what Bernie would do with, ''more air time" - now that he too has fallen for the ''lesser of two evils'' road to spiralling into ever more evil!!! He knew that he'd been shafted by the DNC & DWS & we all know that even more as time goes by & so whyTF he chose not to go ''Independent'' or join Dr. Jill Stein on the Green Ticket (especially as she offered him the PotUS shot) - is somewhat of a mystery to me & squillions of others too, no doubt!! BUT The 99% Struggle can NOT depend on one man or woman and it absolutely has to keep rolling on - with a perspective longer than only one election cycle!

dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

Jill Stein is an idiot,. I might have voted for Trump to keep her from winning, but thank God it did''t come to that.