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Forum Post: I support the Truth Party.

Posted 8 months ago on Feb. 15, 2017, 8:27 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ
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I have said this before I will say it again , I firmly believe devotion to truth is the answer. Truth is useless as it can not be manipulated so it is seldom employed. Only by vigorously rooting out and exposing lies, holding firmly to the truth whether it "helps" or "hurts" your cause, can "progress" be made. By "progress" I mean survival at this point, truth is things are getting bad out there.

Anyway I've said it before. I thought I would say it again just in case, you know, if there was anybody reading that still wanted to change the World.

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[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 months ago

''Why Are the Danes So Happy? Because Their Economy Makes Sense'', by George Lakey:

per aspera ad astra ...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Who are "the Truth Party'' in U$A?! Please don't reply with Repugnant GOP OR with Repulsive GOP-Lite!! A 3rd Party may be more about ''Truth'' - than the other two bunches of lying Corporate whores!!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (1821) from Fredericksburg, TX 7 months ago

the general population has been programmed by the constant repetition of lies. the lies are reinforced hundreds of times a day by tv news, sit coms, drama and talk shows. the same for print, school teachers, parents and each other. the lies are repeated as if they're natural truths discovered by philosophers and scientists.

we'll need to drill out the lies the same way they were programmed into us. you're right of course: the truth is the answer. now repeat that and state all truths a trillion times in the next ten days. if that task daunts you, pick one or two and repeat them as often as you can. I tend to try to take on too many and the minds of my audiences wander, even when the programmed automatic thought responses don't shut me out first.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 5 months ago

This is the kernel of it, building on simple truths it is in a swirl of confusion upon which the deceivers relie.In science we take the things we can observe and and adjust our "truth" to explain it. Take tax cuts, the observed reality is that they increase deficits but many will tell us that they pay for themselves by observing the reality and using our memories we can determine the truth. I admit this is an easy one, but such exercises can be repeated, if one keeps an open mind to reality one can determine at least a few truths. Like either a D or an R will will the Presidency, tax cuts cause debt, the earth is warming, and so on.

[-] 1 points by grapes (4988) 7 months ago

Remember that repetition never guarantees Truth. One true statement beats a trillion repetitions of one false statement. However, as any great artwork must have contrast and resonance, false statements have their place, too, to serve as background to accentuate the truth.

I think our populace mistook repetitions of falsehood as a substitute for truth so we ran our society into the ditch. Citizens United v. FEC case's decision unleashed the corporate money in 2016 Election to no avail. Although Clintoris didn't win, TeraERex did and the trust in the media has been broken by the deluge of money they hauled in to do nefarious things. I myself observed news articles by independent contributors being pulled out quickly from distribution because they were critical of Clintoris. The deluge broke the trust in the media. It'll be a long way back, if ever.

TeraERex has been traumatized(shell-shocked) by our so-called free press which actually behaved as a moneyed-class press. To avoid the secular decline of the U.S., trust in our institutions must be restored but we have had an abysmal record of punishing the culpable. 黑鬼是华尔街附属物。

Here's a great way for our unsinkable aircraft carrier to make some more money for legal settlements - smuggle frucking technology to the drowning polar bear if the huge orange carrot fails to penetrate beyond half of an inch. If the Jew can't jerk, grab that American pussy and fruck away. Have you frucked with cocoanut, Nick? It's nice. You'll like it. Al-Baghdadi knows that all-American feeling of steely Pittsburgh, just ask him.

Our people are similar to mercury in a pan. Rigging the system by tilting the pan can work for a while but it gets harder and harder till the mercury spills out and splatters onto the ground to make a big mess. Historically, heads have rolled before (remember that the guillotine was invented for fast, reliable, efficient, and effective holoschnitt) and they will happen again if we continue our riggings.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 8 months ago

All we have ever had to do was tell the truth about the Republican Party. If people would just stop trying to build their own little power structures but instead just tell the truth we could bring the power of reality crashing down on Washington.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

The GOP would have taken a serious blow (imo) to their standing - IF - the DNC hadn't of screwed Bernie so publicly in outright stealing the nomination for sHillary Rotten Clinton. But - there you have it - the DNC did screw Bernie and the Public and it was very visible - so they screwed themselves and the democratic party. The DNC should have faced reality and known that sHillary was un-electable - AND - they should have rallied around Bernie and his WHOLE campaign platform!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 7 months ago

and what should you have done between June and November?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

What do you think I should have been doing?

What were you doing? You should share with the DNC.

Tom Perez want's to hear from you.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 5 months ago

I sent him my profile and ask him why Democrats won't proudly say they stand for liberal values.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 5 months ago

I did some locally and I posted here how necessary it was to vote for HRC once she was the only way to stop Drumpf, maybe I missed your posts to that effect would you like to link me to a few?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 months ago

sHillary is not and never was and never will be a better alternative - neither Drumpf or sHillary are fit for the office of president! Drumpf stands a good chance of never finishing 4yrs

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

whatever happens over the next few years I will know and YOU will know that YOU made it possible

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 months ago

whatever happens over the next few years I will know and YOU will know that YOU made it possible

What? The fall of the cater to the rich status quo? I'd like to take the credit - but I am not a narcissist to think that I alone made the fall of the wealthy possible.

No - they are doing it to themselves.

You on the other hand seem to want to perpetuate the wealthy status quo by supporting sHillary - who is every bit as bad as Drumpf & worse = actually is not an idiot that would spoil her own plans as Drumpf has been doing.

So rant on.............

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

don't worry you did your bit to elect drumpf, you had your part, you were there for him from June till November when he needed you most

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Sorry but I can't take credit for Drumpf getting elected - you have the DNC to thank for that.

But considering all of the damage that Drumpf is doing to the republican party in office . . . one would think that you would be in seventh heaven right now. I don't think there has ever been one person (before) who has done the GOP so much damage in such a short time pretty much all by their-self.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

I know you are grateful to Trump for keeping Hillary out of the WH.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 week ago

Don't forget to thank the DNC for their criminal actions against Bernie that got sHillary the nomination!

Am I happy that Drumpf is president? Considering that sHillary would have done what she could to forward the wealthy few (herself included) - then Yeah I am happy she lost because Drumpf is sabotaging the GOP in every effort to fuck the general population - where as sHillary likely would not have met the same resistance. Drumpf's very public showing as a greedy asshole who cares nothing for the general population and in fact cares nothing about anyone but himself - has brought the GOP basically to their knees!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 6 days ago

so yeah you're happy Trump is POTUS so don't pretend you're not

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 days ago

you are a stupid shit that don't give a damn about the planet or the country DK, sure Bernie was a golden opportunity but I'm not stupid it matters what happens and for all her faults she would have been a thousand times better the Paris accord alone would have been huge, you sir are an idiot! and it is idiots like you that are killing this county and planet

No - the stupid shit - That Would Be You

Drumpf is accomplishing your dream = destroy the GOP

Did you think they were gonna fall without making some sort of mess?

Yes that insane asshole "DRUMPF" is doing what no other president could do = destroy the GOP. Have you ever seen the GOP so afraid of their own constituents?

HUH ?

They run and hide - won't attend townhall meetings where their constituents are MAD AS HELL. They only have real support with the far right hater racists - and those assholes are making anyone who is sane look at their conservative party in horror and say you are not fit for office!

YEAH = THAT IS HAPPENING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you expect we were going to change government without going through a real crises?

Your blind devotion to sHillary is frankly quite sad - you are no different than all of those in red states that have been acting like Turkeys voting for Thanks Giving for the past 40+ years! You would keep in place the status quo = the wealthy few owning government - you just want sHillary to be the Head Shill!

WAKE THE FUCK UP

OH & BTW = The Paris accord? Is a voluntary thing - it has no teeth to force acceptance of clean energy change or even to reduce the production of green house gasses - IT IS ALL VOLUNTARY - there is nothing to hold countries to their pledges!

& Bernie? I would have loved it if he had won the presidency - but - when you think about it - if a shitload of the GOP were not removed from office so that representatives that would support Bernie's campaign platform could be put into office - then - we would have a repeat of the Obama administration for at least another four years = GOP roadblock to anything Bernie would want to get done to make this a clean healthy and prosperous country for all. He knew it = he always said in his public speech's That He Could Not Do It Alone! Yeah Bernie would have been in the face of a stonewalling Senate and Congress and would verbally tear them a new one - but without a working majority it would still remain a GOP hostage government.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

Hey stupid shit I voted against Trump you voted for him!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33167) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 days ago

I would rather have Bernie as president - but since he got screwed - yeah - for all of the reasons that I have pointed out to you = better Drumpf the raging insane racist greedy-guts asshole who alienates ALL but the most insane haters who sabotages himself along with the rest of the GOP - better that louse than sHillary Rotten Clinton

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

you keep trying to have it both ways, either you opposed Trump or you didn't and you didn't now you got what you wanted!

Trump is your fault and everything he does from dismantlement of the ACA to pushing coal is ALL on YOU!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 5 days ago

you are a stupid shit that don't give a damn about the planet or the country DK, sure Bernie was a golden opportunity but I'm not stupid it matters what happens and for all her faults she would have been a thousand times better the Paris accord alone would have been huge, you sir are an idiot! and it is idiots like you that are killing this county and planet

[-] 1 points by grapes (4988) 1 week ago

Yes, the DNC was indeed the guilty party. Our people wanted, "Make America Great Again!" America cannot be Great unless we go for "America First!" (and be Good). It is no different from just about any other country (they are all Nazionale!) The problems which afflict the World (and the U.S.) originated in not having enough well-wishing sheepdogs to fight the wolves which came by, and nip at the hindlegs of the reluctant sheep to herd them. One very bloody Big Red Dog cannot do it alone.

I had harbored hopes that China could emerge as a worthy sheepdog but alas, my hopes have been completely dashed due to the exhibited arrogant behaviors towards the neighbors. The Britons have "Semper Eadem" as the motto for Queen Elisabeth so we also have "E Pluribus Unum" to be remembered as ours, always, unchanged. To be "First" needs to mean to "Lead(and herd)," not just to be shot at or stabbed from behind. The U.S. has collected enough arrows in the back already, so it should know to assume Leadership seriously.

Contrast North Korea(DPRK) and South Korea(ROK). Despite the common genetic stock of the Korean people north and south of the 38th parallel with DPRK actually being more industrialized in the 1950s, South Korea has grown economically well beyond DPRK under the military protection of the U.S. Why is that? Likewise, Japan and West Germany(BRD, Not East Germany[DDR] which was under the protection of the Soviet Union) did very well. Is it really required for a country to be bombed to smithereens and then occupied by the U.S. in order for it to grow rich afterwards? I don't think so!

Shouldn't we be more appreciative of the lonely "nighttime" lighthouse standing guard off of China keeping the ships(such as the U.S.S. John McCain and H.M.S. Brexit on trading duties with the container ships) safe from running aROK? DPRK needs the darkness to grow the valuable cash crop of mushrooms. Its motto may well be, "feed them poo and keep them in the dark(they still have lots of minders who look after them)."

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 4 months ago

so there you have it, YOU are an enabler YOU enable Trump, YOU put him in the White House, you are as responsible as any in the DNC or Bannon, the primary was held then YOU had a choice YOU choose to put Trump in the WH

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

OH NO! Do ''YOU'' think that ''YOU'' may be transferring & projecting your own HRC ass-kissing culpability in putting ''Trump in the WH''?!! Forgive yourself & move on frf!!! Also fyi, pls consider:

verb. sat. sap. et vale ... (= abbrv. of - ''a word to the wise is enough and bye'')

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

when you had chance to choose you choose Drumpf, and yes I choose HRC I stand by that, and we live with your choice...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

"I choose HRC" proudly ass-(h)erts frf - to NO surprise to anyone at all!!! You've had your lips pressed to her ample ass since Occupy's get go and this fact - is NOT any kind of revelation here!! But thanx for removing any shadow of a doubt about that and any allusions to, "you choose Drumf" at me ... is simply ridiculous, lol! Do U remember "Why Liberals Have To Be Radicals?'' and re. your Oh so beloved Dems:

temet nosce ...

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

Yes between HRC and Trump I picked HRC you picked Trump your guy won now YOU must be happy, but you are also responsible for ALL Trump does.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 4 months ago

the democratic establishment is a waste from what i can see. they want us to believe that the whole reason hillary lost was because the russians hacked the election. the other narrative is that all of those who voted from trump (and the bigger number that did not vote) are just plain stupid. they refuse to see that they have been complicit in the destruction of the working class for the last 40 years and people are aware of that. they are sick of both parties with good reason. poor little frf - he is a perfect example of the clinton obama dems. they refuse to look in the mirror after a loss - the one thing that any successful person in any field must do.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

I have been totally clear the Dems lost because they supported a candidate that told the voters to fuck off after they asked a reasonable question, release the transcripts, that's when the race was over, when the media decided to let the secretive bitch get away with that, but it don't change a damn thing about how people like you elected drumpf, (and W Bush) and in the end it matters who is elected that is why you are an idiot.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

and you don't give a shit about anything but the smell of your own shit

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 1 week ago

well thought out - good thing you only write something every 4 months or so. schumer and pelosi cheered trumps bombing of syria just for the hell of it. pelosi says single payer is NG. these are the people you want ows to support - go play with the other "liberals" at the dnc. and i am the shit??

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 12 hours ago

What did you do flip did you vote for HRC? did you come here to the forum and encourage others to vote for HRC? or are you just a bystander not interested in getting involved in what happens?

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 8 hours ago

your memory is fading along with your ability to reason. i told you already i voted for her - sadly. she is much better than trump but still a warmonger and very much part of the problem not part of the solution. but no i would not encourage anyone to vote one way or the other once bernie was out of the running. lessor of evils is still evil and i understand those who chose to sit it out and those who said anything is better than what we have had for the last 30 plus years.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 week ago

so you prefer the GOP? you must because you work like hell to get them elected.

did you do anything to change the DNC? have you marched against Shumer?

You have done nothing but help the GOP win.

and you are a stupid shit that elects the GOP!

[-] -1 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

you have no idea what i do or have done so buzz off. we all know what you do so as i said buzz off

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago

"that's what I did"

What?!? What did you do? Who did you vote for? HRC? or are you too chicken shit to say?

Or are you a hard core Trump supporter?

As far as the DNC I have posted about it, I encouraged people in NY to primary "Chuck" so I have been consistent and sane the GOP must lose at all costs but yes get involved and push the DNC to the left absolutely and remember always the Greens are the stupidest people on Earth.

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 1 day ago

can't you read on top of all you other problems? you wrote this - "In that spirit will you admit that voting for HRC in November was the only sane choice?" - i wrote this - "that is what i did." is that so hard to figure out?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 2 days ago

" look in the mirror."

In that spirit will you admit that voting for HRC in November was the only sane choice?

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 2 days ago

that is what i did - very sadly but yes trump was much too disgusting. not voting which i have done at times in the past was also not an option. now it's your turn - will you try to engage in constructive conversation. i am not the enemy - what do you see in the mirror? any complaints about the DNC? any complaints about what bill did and what obama did? wall street, the killing of hundreds of thousands around the world - the driving down of wages and funneling money up to the 1% and the .01%! any regrets at how hillary ran her campaign and her policies. or do we just blame the russians and stupid americans. yes the dems are usually better than any candidate the gop puts up but not by enough - you need to admit that to be taken seriously.

i have NEVER voted for a republican candidate - i have voted democrat, third party and sometimes not at all. i am not the problem. those who cannot talk to the people who voted for trump and those who are disillusioned by the modern democratic party are the problem - in my opinion.

[-] 0 points by grapes (4988) 1 day ago

HRC showed that she could be "broke" when leaving the White House and then gained control of hundreds of millions of dollars afterwards, rather Quickly, don't you think so, too? How did that happen? When did anyone putting in an honest day of work day-in and day-out gain that much wealth so quickly?

I think I know. I think I know. Do you know? What did HRC have to sell? Her labor? She's as frigid as the gaseous giant outer planet Uranus, right? Just ask Bill. There's Trumptard and there's also Utard, an upshot ur-anium and kohl energy state.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8846) from Phoenix, AZ 3 days ago

I see what you write here and that helps elect people like Trump.

And this is my post so if you want to buzz off feel free, you Trump loving idiot.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 3 days ago

yes trump is bad - really bad but will you acknowledge that the dnc helped to create the state of the country that got him elected. if not then you have no place here. the first move of any serious person or organization is to look in the mirror. any adult knows that. do not point fingers until you have examined your errors and corrected them. will you speak to the errors of the democratic party and especially the leadership.

trump is not the problem but a symptom of the problem. putin is not the problem - maybe for russians living in russia but not here. blaming putin for our problems is childish

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 months ago

Corporate Democraps are still in the very same denial that made them - kiss Hellary's ample ass; reject and cheat Bernie; deny how hated she was & then, to lose to an absolute ass like tRUMP!!! Tho' Hellary got ~3m more votes than DJT - BOTH secured <20% of the votes of ALL Adults in U$A!! This has HUGE implications for the viability of a Third Party, imo!

Corporate Dems Pols & DNC will NEVER get how it's They Themselves that are The problem and the duped Dem voters are thus leaving in droves .. tho not frf, lol. He considers himself a "Liberal" but that term is politically almost meaningless - in an U$A that is so Mind Managed to The Right by RW Corp. MSM. Alas frf, is so loyal to Dems' Past Principles that he's blind to the Present Corporate Controlled, Co-opted and Corrupted reality. This bodes ill For The Future .. IF it is replicated across The U$A. The youth aren't impacted & afflicted by such faux conciousness tho'.The New Politics MUST be based on Economics & a critique of Neoliberalism, Crapitalism & especially, Banksterism! Also fyi, plsease see:

radix omnium malorum est cupiditas ...