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Posted 5 years ago on Jan. 17, 2015, 2:53 a.m. EST by StillModestCapitalist (343)
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You posers with your multiple IDs will never intimidate me. In fact, you have made me far more focused and determined than I was just 90 days ago. At that time, I was just another user. Now, I have become a freight train running through your freshly painted RED picket fence. Over the next 22 months, I will add hundreds of entries to this page citing hundreds of sources including my own OWS pages which explain how and why you posers have been stalking those of us who still believe in voting for lesser evil in addition to protest against all evil. For each and every comment that is marked down, I will add another to this page. There will be no limit. In the meantime, I fully expect my user rating to go negative because of you pathetic frauds using your multiple IDs in a relentless markdown campaign. At this time, my user rating is 246. That is down by nearly 400 points over the last few weeks in spite of those which were returned to be by the site operators. A few of your IDs were temporarily suspended at that time. Since then, you have become even more determined. Even going so far as to check the archives for all of my older comments in order to make it appear as if I have never been appreciated here by anyone. You have singled out several others that I know of simply because they also believe in voting in addition to protest. You have been marking their comments down relentlessely in addition to mine while marking your own comments up every single day using multiple IDs. It's a calculated strategy to influence visitors of this site. To discourage as many non-conservative voters as possible. Truly immoral and pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Your efforts to intimidate me and others will never produce the results you hope for.









Update: 01/18/14. 03:04 ET. According to the current ratings on my last 10 comments, my user rating should be 7 points higher. However, it has dropped by another 11 points over the same time frame. It was 168 a few hours ago. Now, it is 157. That is more indisputable proof that one or more of my stalkers have been hitting the archives and marking down more of my old comments in order to make it appear as if I have never been appreciated here to begin with.

This is exactly the kind of deliberate manipulation that my stalkers, who operate under the guise of disgruntled liberalism in order to discourage non-conservative voters have the nerve to accuse me of imagining.

In 2011, I was one of the most popular users here. At that time, most of us were true to the 1% mantra. At that time, the fiscal conservatives were blatant. They made no attempt to hide their true motives. Because their conservative views were stated outright, they were criticized heavily by the majority. Their comments were almost always rated well into negative territory.

For the election year of 2014, they devised a new strategy here at OWS. Instead of insulting and vilifying liberals, progressives and free thinkers outright, in particular fiscal liberals, a strategy which had proven innefective in 2011 and 2012, they nearly perfected a new strategy of masquerading as disgruntled liberals upset with Obama and the Democratic party. I say 'nearly' perfected because they have made their true motives obvious to a few of us. They have done so by criticizing Democrats almost exclusively on key issues like economics, foreign policy, gun control and corruption in general. Only under extreme pressure under piles of evidence and only to a very slight degree have any of these posers admitted even a slight difference between the major political parties. They stalk those of us who see Democrats as the lesser evil. They use multiple IDs in order to keep their own comments 'best rated' almost daily. Two or three of them have even gone on record in slight favor of the Republican party.

The idea for the election year of 2014 was to discourage as many non-conservative voters as possible. This site was key because it had always been popular with fiscal liberals and free thinkers. Also because any potential uprising, like those of 2011 and 2012 could be forecast and influenced to some degree here.

Unfortunately, their strategies which were spearheaded throughout the media to some degree by multi-deca-millionaire Russell Brand, commercially affiliated with scores of multi-hundred-millionaires and a number of Wall Street firms were successful in 2014 as 2/3 of American voters sat the election out. As a direct result, there was a conservative sweep across the country.

Now the very policies and projects which Occupy once opposed such as Keystone XL, environmental and climate DE-regulation and tax breaks for the rich now move forward at a pace not seen in years.

There will be severe consequences for the inaction of the more liberal voter in 2014. If the political strategy of discouraging more liberal voters is not effectively countered here and all over the web over the next 22 months, America will end up with the most conservative government in it's history.



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[-] 6 points by SerfingUSA (451) 5 years ago

SMC, you're a punk-ass fuck! Where do you get off falsely accusing true Occupiers with your baseless accusations. The people you named in your title are real occupiers. You're just an establishment kiss-ass who is trying to co-opt Occupy.

Take your DNC campaign somewhere else. We don't want that BS anymore.

I'm never going to vote for evil AND I'm never going to vote for the lesser evil.

If our system requires good people to do the wrong thing. If we must vote for evil or bad things will happen to us, fuck it then, let bad things happen. I'm going to do the right thing. Such a system deserves to crash. A life based on fear isn't worth living.

I don't know if this dystopian society can be fixed. I do know, it won't be fixed by a Democrat OR a Republican.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

Agreed. Everyone named are awesome occupiers and warriors for the 99% including flip's wife, lol. Peace. C'mon StillMod see what we all have in common, not where we differ. We have more in common than not.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

I hate the GOP I wonder if we have that in common or am I excluded because I don't hate the Dems? It is those using "puck-ass fuck" and those that agree are the ones looking to divide OWS into those that hate the Dems and those that don't, or am I wrong do you love the GOP because in that case we do have a problem.

Now those named are a bunch of puck-ass fucks, )I know you don't mind me talking that way), that do nothing but attack the Dems and anybody who hates the GOP and don't want to see them writing laws, the puck-ass fucks the the title are the most divisive people on the site.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 5 years ago

frf... kindda good question....

I think EVERYONE here hates Bush, Cheney, karl Rove... etc....

I believe the opposition you get here with your posts... is that you are being too general in your statements ... to be productive with your attacks....

If (and when) you speak about specific things or people ... you can get & promote change ... because ... for instance ... there might be a republican that also agree's with you... and who can contribute with info, promotion ..etc....

but... when you get too general... like ... putting all republicans into the same group... (as "GOP") ... then your argument is lost among those republicans... who otherwise might have joined us ....

make sense ?

and you have to admit that there are many Dems... who also have sold out to big money.,....

we need to be more accurate to be effective ....

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

party names

if their not good in general

they're not good for exceptions

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

the GOP name is not good for America....or are you one of those who don't see a difference between folks like W Bush and Al Gore? oh that's right the only thing you care about is yourself and the bombs......and you not voting for bombs you couldn't care less if a dozen people own the whole country

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

as long as those ISIS members do not take away the land from them

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

WTF are you saying you would bomb ISIS?????

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

I don't bomb anyone or Yemen

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

so what do you mean by "as long as..."

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

people don't like a new Independent State because the state determines that who owns the property they claim there

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

"as long as" still sounds like a threat, and your words do not speak to the question....if you something to say go ahead and spit it out Matt I think you may have too clever for yourself here, it's all cool, not nearly so big a deal as allowing the GOP to win.....

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

It is accurate to say that the GOP has gained a huge margin in the house due to a lack of participation in the last election perhaps if you pointed that out more often we would get along better. Common ground is the way to build a movement.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 5 years ago

thank you frf :)

you finally replied a post to me that is not telling me what I think ... thanks again ...

anyway... yes I want to see @ 80% of the GOP congress and Senate replaced .... as well as @ 40% of the Dems ....

I want to see everyone who has fallen to corruption... out of our government !!...

personally... I believe the only way to do that... is to expose the corruption details for each individual..individually....

if we do it that way .... we will get support from ... the populous base... regardless of party... in other words ... the republicans & the dems will help us oust the bad guys.... and I do believe that there are some good honest republicans out there who we could help get elected.... better a good guy than a bad guy any day...even if they are republican....

expose them individually... and we will get success !!

who knows we may also end up getting the base to abandon their party alignments ... and become Independents as they really start understanding how corrupt our gov is...

http://sunlightfoundation.com is a good place to start finding facts....

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

a good place to start finding facts....

Then there are obvious shortcuts that can be taken along the way as well. Just identify everyone who is supporting the Keystone mega jobs farce. The new republiCon Joni Ernst wasted no time in pushing for passage for it ( for that reason of mega jobs = blatant lie ) on her reply to the state of the onion address (lets peal back the layers people).

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

The fact is the GOP make the rich richer until people are willing to seriously address the wealth inequality nothing much can change nor will it, as long as people sit around pretending it's OK for the GOP to be elected and make the rich richer, then OWS can do nothing except make things worst which is exactly what has happened since its inception.

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

"I want, I want, I want" you are such a child. When are you going to do something, besides elect the GOP?

All you do all anything you promote does is to elect the GOP so you are responsible for what they do it is on your head you elect them.

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 5 years ago

you are either retarded... or a Fuking AssHole !! ... this is last comment to you BOT

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

Could be both. Don't rule that out

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

So your response to my very reasonable question of, Why do you work to elect the GOP, how do you think that is helpful in any way?

Is to attack the questioner OWS has often asked the uncomfortable questions it is the core of who we are, yes many have called us assholes, for asking questions in places where people don't want to hear them, but still we stand for the nation for the truth, for change!

You are a stupid ego whore bent on your own political agenda for which you would throw the 99% under the bus to obtain.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

I'd say those people all have convictions. They've risen above what they've been told to think and do. They see that our system continuing to move along the way it is, is an abject failure. That people are suffering. That watershed change is needed. That the Democrats are not the answer.

"Searching for Radical Democracy in the Ruins of Capitalism's Economic Depravity" An interview with Henry Thiroux. Valuable stuff. I hope you will listen to it.

"This (neoliberalism) is an ideology that is in its roots as bad as any totalitarian ideology we have ever seen.... It tells people there is no alternative, that market freedom is really about freedom in general, that a rabid kind of individualism is all that matters, that as Ayn Rand used to say, self interest is the ultimate virtue, and people believe this stuff. I mean they, because they have no other discourse, this is where the left has failed, this is why people think this way. I mean the left doesn't realize that unless you create a formative culture and a critical consciousness capable of changing the way people think about the common sense assumptions that drive their lives then you've got an ideological foundation for neoliberalism and totalitarianism that not only destroys the capacity to think critically it destroys the capacity to have convictions." Henry Giroux


[-] -3 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

So you would divide us into those who are OK with the GOP winning while we work for watershed change and those of us who are not? Why could we not all work to keep the GOP from power while also working for watershed change? Because I will never be OK with doing nothing while the GOP win and do the evil that they do.

I never said the Democrats were the answer, I said it is a ladder of power with each leg depending on the other, that the GOP can be brought down and the Democrats will follow.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

I'm sorry but I just do not understand how people being MORE left than the Democrats helps put Republicans in office. It's nonsensical. Your abject failure at holding the Democrats responsible for their constituents is why we're in the position we're in. They have fallen in line with corporations and people like you have done nothing about that, but soak them with praise.

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

Your constant berating of the Dems cause people not to vote therefore allowing the GOP to win something you seem perfectly happy with. Your abject failure in preventing the largest GOP margin in the house in over 80 years will no doubt lead to greater income inequality only the very stupid cause the very thing they claim to oppose to increase. Your action will result in money having more power not less you and those like you are the reason the 1% rule, you should think on that a bit.

But still even if one agrees with you, you are still dividing the movement into those who think like you and those that don't you reject those who think supporting the Dems is worthwhile to keep the GOP from winning you come here and call them "puck-ass fucks" and such as that.

[-] 2 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 5 years ago

Your constant berating of the GOP causes people not to focus on the issues & specifics ....

your only answer is to support the Dems ... so they can conquer the GOP ....

That is BS ... they have not been able to conquer them for a hundred years....

we need to expose the corruption ... plain & simple ....

do that and many of the GOP will jump ship ....

Much faster success than letting the DNC try to do it ....

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

you need to read some of what I have actually written,


my answer is to tear down the ladder of power by taking out the GOP leg, i do agree that they depend on each other, i don't agree with your strategy of tearing down the Dems, you go there because it is easier for you to feed your ego by building your political party,

I instead say we bring the whole thing down by taking out the GOP, a hard thing to do, doesn't feed our egos with a brand new Party of our own, but it is a damn sight better than turning everything over to the GOP and the 1% while we hope for a bloody revolution, which i don't want anyway.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

"The Congressional agenda is the agenda of the billionaire class, plain and simple." Bernie Sanders


Do you see the Dems fighting hard against this? I don't. I see Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren kind of fighting against this.

Yes, factsrfun, the Republicans are worse than the Democrats, but saying we can't do better and must cheer on the lesser evil is nothing but pathetic.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

The question is do you see the GOP making this better? There is a real world too you know while you dream of your perfect one the rest of us have to live in the real one, we can do this, if we set our egos aside and stop fearing being "taken over" if we throw the damn GOP out of office the whole system would change, if the all the people hurt by the GOP would show up at polls and vote just once to rid America of them the entire ladder of power would tremble and two years after that the world would change indeed, but with people like you around to stop it, the 1% are safe behind your indecision.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

If the Democratic Party embraced Occupy Wall Street for what it was (rather than try to co-opt it to the right and move it to a more moderate position,) the way the Republicans embraced the Tea Party, the GOP would have been beaten badly.

But, the Dems chose corporate money over the people, so instead of supporting it's true left, the occupiers, they bashed them and tried to co-opt the thing as a moderate movement. Too bad. In the meantime, the right strengthened. Not my fault.

What really needs to happen is the Dems need to actually do what they say they do instead of spewing crap all the time and actually BE "for the people", and not for corporations. Their choice.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

Ok so what you are saying is that punishing America with a huge GOP win is a just response to the Democratic Party not being nice enough to you?

Maybe if just once there was action in a primary the dems would care that's why the GOP cared about the Tea Party they took action to move things to the right.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

What I am saying is that I am SUPPOSED to be living in a democracy and free to vote for who I want to support. The two party system is not going to bully me, sorry. I want a better world for my children and I am NOT going to get that by continuing the status quo.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

You support and continue the status quo, we were on track to pay the debt off entirely and rob the 1% of their biggest argument for austerity until fools like you came running to the aid of the 1% and started telling the lie that there was no difference and by so doing saving the 1% from falling from power. everything would be different not if Nader had told the truth instead of his ego feeding lie. You continue in that sprite keeping change at bay and the 1% in power.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

the election had no quorum

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

yet the congress stills buys bombs,

perhaps we should tell yemen the bombs have no quorum

[+] -4 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

They have "risen above"? Give me a break. You can't be so incredibly ignorant as to overlook the fact that all of those named above have singled out Democrats, in particular Hillary Clinton, the most likely nominee, over and over and over and over while pretending to be disgruntled liberals. You can't be so incredibly ignorant as to overlook the fact that all of those named above have repeatedly attacked those of us who still believe in voting. You can't be so incredibly ignorant as to overlook the tactics they have resorted to. You can't be so incredibly ignorant as to overlook the fact that things go from bad to worse when the majority give up their right to vote as they did in November.













That being said, I'm not aware of anyone here who believes that Democrats are 'the answer' so drop the utterly repetitive condescending crap. You really should know better after we have explained ourselves so many times. There is no longer any excuse to repeatedly misinterpret our message so if you hope to be taken seriously by anyone but the poser posse, I suggest you start reading more carefully.

Again, it's about voting AGAINST the greater evil as part of an overall strategy to effect positive change, or in my case, to delay the upcomming depression and slow the decline of society which I'm convinced will continue until a comet smashes into the Earth.

[-] -1 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Assuming it's sincere, I appreciate the civil attitude. But I'm not imagining any of this. Others have been singled out for the same reason. Simply because they refuse to buy into this 'don't vote' crap. It's HORRIBLE advice. Say that reminds me.


http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/nov/17/climate-change-denial-scepticism-republicans-congress (This is a good one. The liar/wackos are listed and quoted by name.)

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

Of course I am sincere. Look, I feel that the left, the liberals, the progressives, the Democrats, whatever you want to call them are weak as hell, partly because they are bought and paid for by the corporations almost as much as the Republicans. This makes them weak and because the left is weak, these lunatic right wing nutters get their way! Democrats should start working for their constituency instead of corporations. If we had a stronger left, a Democratic party that people could believe in, Republicans wouldn't be getting away with the crap that they do. Most of us here, at Occupy, are trying to push the Democrats to be stronger. That is not a bad thing. That is survival.

[-] -2 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

GOP voters nostalgic for outsourcing, unemployment and weaker job creation

By Michael Thornton

Many Americans appear to have a poor memory when it comes to economic policy, since they have the misconception that electing a GOP-majority Senate and keeping a GOP House will change their economic conditions for the better. If recent history is any guide, these nostalgic voters who vote for GOP economic policies will vote to pass most economic benefits to the well-off and further harm the economic prospects of the poor and middle class.

Recently, I read Paul Krugman's excellent Rolling Stone article that highlighted the accomplishments (and disappointments) of Barack Obama's presidency and how those accomplishments are ignored, especially considering the Great Recession he inherited — what many economists consider the most dire economic condition since the Great Depression.

The right-wing meme chanted repeatedly and without regard to fact or data during the past six years has been "It's Obama's fault!" and it lacks any credibility, since the GOP has a remarkably poor track record this century when it comes to economic policy. In that regard, comparing the economic results of Republicans and President George W. Bush to those of Democrats and Obama may be of some benefit to those with a short memory.

The GOP continues to claim that Americans would have better job prospects if the GOP were in control. This is from FactCheck.com: "And the total number of jobs in September (2014) was nearly 5.5 million higher than when Obama was first sworn in. Four times more jobs have been added under Obama than were gained in George W. Bush's eight years in office."

Four-and-a-half of those eight Bush years were with both houses of Congress, and six of eight years were with control of the House.

From an op-ed in The Hill: "Since taking office, the administration has racked up 55 straight months of job creation. Last month, when it was 'only' 54 months in a row, Vice President Biden noted, 'That's the longest streak of uninterrupted job growth in U.S. history.'" Granted Biden may be prejudiced; however, facts are facts. I ask you, shouldn't this record of accomplishment be widely reported?"

Republicans also say they would shrink government to a size that they could drown it in a bathtub. What has Obama done in his time in office? Public-sector employment has fallen by more than 500,000 jobs. While I would argue that those cuts can have harmful effects, the cuts are real and as a result that GOP talking point should be muted. As Danny Vinik writes in the New Republic, "Republicans will undoubtedly argue that the size of the public sector workforce is a poor indicator of the reach of the federal government. And many of those public sector job losses have come at the state and local levels. That's all true. But employment in the federal government has fallen as well. When Obama took office in January 2009, the federal government employed 2.792 million people. Right now, it is down to 2.714 million." Cuts to local and state government payrolls are more pronounced.

Long-term unemployment is still unacceptably high, but falling. New programs to help the long-term unemployed, described as "the Obama administration (being) engaged with America's leading businesses to develop best practices for hiring and recruiting the long-term unemployed," are part of a White House initiative. The program is designed to help those who have been out of work the longest due to slow growth in certain job sectors, skills mismatches and especially hiring discrimination. The GOP plan to help the long-term unemployed these past four years is still being debated.

Some in the GOP will point to the 40 jobs bills passed by the GOP House that have been stalled in the Democratic Senate. Most, if not all, of those Republican "jobs" bills are corporate welfare schemes that would create few jobs at a steep price.

Carl Riccadonna, a senior economist at Deutsche Bank, said in the Huffington Post that "They are very narrowly targeted, and it gives the impression that maybe some of this is special interest [sic] really pursuing these, not really taking a macro view but a very, very micro focus in what the impact would be. ... Jobs are a second- or third-order effect, not the main priority.'"

House Republicans passed a "jobs" bill that includes a smorgasbord of traditional conservative ideas. But it would also increase the deficit by $590 billion over the next 10 years, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. And these aren't temporary costs, like the stimulus (which wasn't that much larger, moneywise, than this new GOP jobs plan anyway). After the first decade, the costs will only increase. More welfare for corporations that are currently earning record profits, and using those profits to mostly buy back stock, is not a recipe for jobs creation.

Which state has the nation's highest unemployment rate? That would be GOP-controlled Georgia. Twelve of the 18 states with the highest unemployment rates are GOP-controlled. But how can that be when Republicans are the supposed job creators?

At least one Republican is proud of his job-creating abilities. GOP Senate candidate David Perdue in fact boasts of his job creating skills. As detailed by Politico, "Perdue spoke at length about his role in Pillowtex's collapse, which led to the loss of more than 7,600 jobs. Perdue was asked about his 'experience with outsourcing,' and his response was blunt. 'Yeah, I spent most of my career doing that,' Perdue said."

Unfortunately, the jobs he created were all overseas. But if the polls are any indication, Georgia GOP voters are looking forward to more jobs outsourcing from Perdue.

The GOP wants to cut corporate taxes and reduce health and worker protections even further. But corporations don't need more profits for shareholders and bonuses for executives; they need to increase hiring with all that newfound wealth.

The GOP's claim that they are better at job creation is false and not based in fact, since the GOP and George W. Bush record of job creation during the 2000s is poor at best. While participation rates, long-term unemployment and struggling wage growth are areas that need vigilant attention, believing that the failed GOP economic ways of trickle-down, voodoo economics are the ways to economic prosperity is a mistake that many voters seem to believe is worth repeating — likely to their own detriment.

Thornton has spent two decades as a documentation analyst and environmental remediation manager. His writing has been noted on "The Ed Schultz Show," "The Rachel Maddow Show," "PBS NewsHour" and the The Huffington Post.


[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

Henry Giroux on the ills of neoliberalism:

"This (neoliberalism) is an ideology that is in its roots as bad as any totalitarian ideology we have ever seen.... It tells people there is no alternative, that market freedom is really about freedom in general, that a rabid kind of individualism is all that matters, that as Ayn Rand used to say, self interest is the ultimate virtue, and people believe this stuff. I mean they, because they have no other discourse, this is where the left has failed, this is why people think this way. I mean the left doesn't realize that unless you create a formative culture and a critical consciousness capable of changing the way people think about the common sense assumptions that drive their lives then you've got an ideological foundation for neoliberalism and totalitarianism that not only destroys the capacity to think critically it destroys the capacity to have convictions."

From: "Searching for Radical Democracy in the Ruins of Capitalism's Economic Depravity"


I get the point of your article, however, I think it is fair to say that neoliberalism is more the problem, than say, just Republicans, because Democrats are neoliberals too. And, neoliberalism and it's totalitarian capitalist economic system being rigged as democracy itself, is the problem. Any politicians that go along with that, are not putting the interests of their constituents first. Now, I get that they may not understand that, but it's time they wake up and start paying attention because we're just going to get more and more of this:

"More Than Half Of American Schoolchildren Now Live In Poverty"


[-] -1 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

I'm not a neoliberal. I'm a die-hard free thinker who knows better than to buy into this 'duopoly' crap. I've never claimed that either major political party has all the answers or that either make all the mistakes. Both are riddled with corruption. However, one is considerably more evil than the other. Especially when it comes to economic policy.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

I, personally, think we can do better than two parties riddled with corruption that are both clearly evil, even if one is worse than the other. Certainly, we can find people to lead us who have our interests at heart?



[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Appeal to the 2/3 who have opted out - as it is clear that they are totally done with the parties in office. We have a viable system - if - we can get proper representation.

[-] -2 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

NEWS & POLITICS House Republicans Pass Bill Forbidding Scientists from Advising EPA on Their OWN Research

"We get it, you don't like science. Especially when it interferes with your corporate clients."

By Lindsay Abrams

Full article: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/house-republicans-pass-bill-forbidding-scientists-advising-epa-their-own-research


[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

True occupiers don't relentlessly stalk other users marking down everything they post into negative territory using multiple IDs.

You do. Hence the 150+ markdowns I've received just within the last 24 hours.

SerfingUSA isn't your only ID. Spinoza34 and DNCheadquarters are also yours. You've used all three many times to mark down my comments and yours up.

True occupiers don't pull that immoral crap. You do.


News flash: It won't be fixed at all. It's only going to get worse. In the meantime, we have only degrees of evil to chose from at the voting booth. Do nothing and the greater evil will take more power. Hence the November Republican sweep as 2/3 of American voters sat out.

There will be severe concequences for their inaction. Say that reminds me.

House Republicans just passed a bill forbidding scientists from advising the EPA on their own research

The "reform" measure makes room for industry-funded experts on the EPA's advisory board

Congressional climate wars were dominated Tuesday by the U.S. Senate, which spent the day debating, and ultimately failing to pass, a bill approving the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline. While all that was happening, and largely unnoticed, the House was busy doing what it does best: attacking science.

H.R. 1422, which passed 229-191, would shake up the EPA’s Scientific Advisory Board, placing restrictions on those pesky scientists and creating room for experts with overt financial ties to the industries affected by EPA regulations.

The bill is being framed as a play for transparency: Rep. Michael Burgess, R-Texas, argued that the board’s current structure is problematic because it  “excludes industry experts, but not officials for environmental advocacy groups.” The inclusion of industry experts, he said, would right this injustice.

But the White House, which threatened to veto the bill, said it would “negatively affect the appointment of experts and would weaken the scientific independence and integrity of the SAB.”

In what might be the most ridiculous aspect of the whole thing, the bill forbids scientific experts from participating in “advisory activities” that either directly or indirectly involve their own work. In case that wasn’t clear: experts would be forbidden from sharing their expertise in their own research — the bizarre assumption, apparently, being that having conducted peer-reviewed studies on a topic would constitute a conflict of interest. “In other words,” wrote Union of Concerned Scientists director Andrew A. Rosenberg in an editorial for RollCall, “academic scientists who know the most about a subject can’t weigh in, but experts paid by corporations who want to block regulations can.”

Speaking on the House floor Tuesday, Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., summed up what was going on: “I get it, you don’t like science,” he told bill sponsor Rep. Chris Stewart, R-Utah. “And you don’t like science that interferes with the interests of your corporate clients. But we need science to protect public health and the environment.”

The House, alas, is staying the course, voting this week on two other bills aimed at impeding the EPA, including one that prevents the agency from relying on what it calls “secret science” in crafting its regulations — but which in reality, opponents argue, would effectively block the EPA from adopting any new rules to protect public health. The trio, wrote Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas, in an editorial for the Hill, represents “the culmination of one of the most anti-science and anti-health campaigns I’ve witnessed in my 22 years as a member of Congress.”

The White House has threatened to veto all three.



[-] 1 points by SerfingUSA (451) 5 years ago

You're wrong again, as usual. Why does a person who is so often wrong, try to influence others?

First you were WAY off with your Ebola predictions. (You said 5000 people in the US could die. When only 1 person died). Nostradamus you are not.

Now you are WAY off on your false allegations about user multiple ID's. Of course you have no proof, because you are wrong.

Then you try to convince others that voting for paid off corrupt politicians, that will screw them over, is a good idea. Wrong again. As usual.

Please keep your stupid thoughts(DNC shilling) to yourself. They are always wrong.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

I guess 33 US airstrikes tomorrow

wanna take a bet ?

[-] -2 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

he does not need to bet - he knows for certain. if he were not so sad he would be hilarious!

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Look at the times flip. MattHolck0 was betting SerfingUSA on the airstrikes. Not me. My entry was posted two minutes later.

[-] 1 points by SerfingUSA (208) 1 hour ago You're wrong again, as usual. Why does a person who is so often wrong, try to influence others? First you were WAY off with your Ebola predictions. (You said 5000 people in the US could die. When only 1 person died). Nostradamus you are not. Now you are WAY off on your false allegations about user multiple ID's. Of course you have no proof, because you are wrong. Then you try to convince others that voting for paid off corrupt politicians, that will screw them over, is a good idea. Wrong again. As usual. Please keep your stupid thoughts(DNC shilling) to yourself. They are always wrong. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

[-] 1 points by StillModestCapitalist (168) 26 minutes ago You liar. You know damn well what I typed regarding Ebola. I swore with absolute certainty back in early October that Ebola would NEVER become a pandemic in America or ANY developed country. I swore with absolute certainty that it would ultimately kill FEWER than one out of every five hundred thousand Americans. In all likelihood, A LOT FEWER. Not only were my predictions accurate, they were the only predictions of their kind posted ANYWHERE at the time. I succeeded in proving hundreds of so called 'experts' from the US and around the world DEAD WRONG. Http://EbolaFearMongering.Blogspot.com https://occupywallst.org/forum/ebola-the-latest-it-disease-to-fear-unnecessarily-/ Would you like to go over my Stansberry prediction as well? Next. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply edit delete permalink

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (2005) 28 minutes ago I guess 33 US airstrikes tomorrow wanna take a bet ? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

See that flip? It's not brain surgery.

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

You liar. You know damn well what I typed regarding Ebola.

I swore with absolute certainty back in early October that Ebola would NEVER become a pandemic in America or ANY developed country. I swore with absolute certainty that it would ultimately kill FEWER than one out of every five hundred thousand Americans. In all likelihood, A LOT FEWER. Not only were my predictions accurate, they were the only predictions of their kind posted ANYWHERE at the time. I succeeded in proving hundreds of so called 'experts' from the US and around the world DEAD WRONG.



Would you like to go over my Stansberry prediction as well?


[-] 1 points by SerfingUSA (451) 5 years ago

Wrong again SMC. As usual.

If I would have used multiple IDs, you would have been in negative points territory a long time ago.

For the record, YOU are the one who has admitted to using multiple IDs, NOT ME! Yet you falsely accuse me and other good people here, of doing the same sleezy tactics that you admitted to. What a sleeze ball. No wonder you love politicians so much.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

An open SIGN UP page is what the forum needs. We need more people posting here. All should be welcome to post here. Allow people to SIGN UP. No SIGN UP is bad news.

[-] 0 points by SerfingUSA (451) 5 years ago

You're right BW. That needs to happen, soon. The lights are going dim.

jart has been drinking ALOT of Kool Aid since working for Google.

She's gone to the dark side. I hope she can snap out of it.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23319) 5 years ago

Here is Henry Giroux, from an excellent Truth Out interview, "Searching for Radical Democracy in the Ruins of Capitalism's Economic Depravity". He breaks it down brilliantly:

This (neoliberalism) is an ideology that is in its roots as bad as any totalitarian ideology we have ever seen.... It tells people there is no alternative, that market freedom is really about freedom in general, that a rabid kind of individualism is all that matters, that as Ayn Rand used to say, self interest is the ultimate virtue, and people believe this stuff. I mean they, because they have no other discourse, this is where the left has failed, this is why people think this way. I mean the left doesn't realize that unless you create a formative culture and a critical consciousness capable of changing the way people think about the common sense assumptions that drive their lives then you've got an ideological foundation for neoliberalism and totalitarianism that not only destroys the capacity to think critically it destroys the capacity to have convictions."


It's worth listening to the whole thing. Peace and solidarity!

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

As I said 6 months ago and again several weeks ago, in the interest of FULL DISCLOSURE, I created the ID 'TheUglyTruth' in order to complain exclusively about commercial healthcare. More specifically, about the treatment of my step-dad. I created one or two pages in June as I recall and stopped using the ID at that time and for that reason. That doesn't make me a liar. It makes me honest.

YOU on the other hand have been using at least three IDs that I know of in order to mark your own comments up to 'best rated' almost on a daily basis while marking mine down into negative territory ever since the Russell Brand pages where I began criticizing him for utter hypocrisy and his supporters for giving the same HORRIBLE advice and for literally selling his commercial image thereby making him even richer.

Shortly after losing 400 points in a matter of days because of YOU, flip and possibly another user with multiple IDs, YOU actually had two, three or more of your IDs temporarily SUSPENDED for doing exactly what I accused you of. At that time, literally within hours, the site operators saw fit to RESTORE approximately 400 of my points ALL AT ONCE.


Now, that's evidence of site policy violation. Not your pathetic self-serving CRAP.

SerfingUSA, spinoza34, and DNCheadquarters are all one in the same. Two or all three of them were temporarily SUSPENDED several weeks ago for doing exactly what I accused you of.



[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

Looks like you have a republiCON restating the facts to suit itself.

[-] -2 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

It appears so.

[-] 3 points by Shule (2638) 5 years ago

Oh wow! I made a headline. Thanks for making me important.

[-] 0 points by SerfingUSA (451) 5 years ago

Shule, before you go getting a bloated ego about seeing your name in headlines, there's something you ought'a know. It's been proven that SMC's clairvoyance and visions are super powerful, right? Well he's figured out that "flip's wife" is the ringleader here. That's right! flip's wife! Who would'a thunk it? Amazing, right? It seems the rest of us are just small potatoes compared to flip's wife. The cat's outta the bag. flip's wife is the mastermind behind the mark down stalking campaign. Gee, that SMC fella is like Nostradamus and Sherlock Holmes, all rolled into one I tell ya!

Maybe if we're real nice to him, he'll tell us next week's winning lottery numbers! That way we will be rich 1% job creators, just like the people he wants us to vote for!

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

you have discovered the truth! luckily even the great smc cannot figure out her id. she can continue to post and send out orders. you do not know what it is like to live with her - the cooking - the cleaning - i am also her sex slave!

[-] 0 points by Shule (2638) 5 years ago

Gee, you mean I'm not famous in my own right, but that I'm just another member of the "Flip gang"?, That Ma Flip is running the whole affair? Wait a minute, I sense Flip's wife is trying to reach me on my left cranial nerve.... gotta go Ma Flip is sending me some new orders......

[-] -1 points by SerfingUSA (451) 5 years ago

No, no, Shule. I didn't mean it like that. I'm sorry. You're famous. You're definitely still famous. You and me just aren't "as famous" as flip's wife. It's no Biggie.

[-] 1 points by Shule (2638) 5 years ago

Oh, ok. That was what Flip's wife was telling me on my cranial nerve. Thanks. For a minute there I thought I was going to loose it or something.

[+] -4 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

I never accused flip's wife of leading anything. I only stated that flip finally admitted having a second ID within his family after being all but proven into a corner because of the OBVIOUS 'mark up/mark down' timing on several occasions.

By the way, I notice the comments posted by Shule and SerfingUSA were posted just a few minutes apart. Interesting.

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Another markdown. Gee what a shock. Say that reminds me.

Obama's address to pitch tax proposals to help middle class


President Barack Obama is turning to his biggest television audience of the year to pitch tax increases on the wealthiest Americans and put the new Republican Congress in the position of defending top income earners over the middle class.

As Obama continues to signal what he will propose during Tuesday's State of the Union address, senior administration officials said Saturday that he will call for raising the capital gains rate on top income earners and eliminating a tax break on inheritances. The revenue generated by those changes would fund new tax credits and other cost-saving measures for middle-class taxpayers, officials said.

Tax increases are rarely welcomed by congressional Republicans, who now hold majorities in the House and the Senate for the first time in Obama's presidency. Obama's tax proposals will likely be dismissed, if not outright ignored, by lawmakers outside the Democratic Party's liberal base.

Obama also is expected to call for lawmakers to make community college free for many students, increase paid leave for workers and enact broad cybersecurity rules. Administration officials disclosed details on the tax proposals on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the proposals by name ahead of the president.

The centerpiece of the president's tax proposal is an increase in the capital gains rate on couples making more than $500,000 per year to 28 percent, the same level as under President Ronald Reagan. The top capital gains rate has already been raised from 15 percent to 23.8 percent during Obama's presidency.

Obama also wants to close what the administration is calling the "Trust Fund Loophole," a change that would require estates to pay capital gains taxes on securities at the time they're inherited. Officials said the overwhelming impact of the change would be on the top 1 percent of income earners.

While GOP leaders have said they share Obama's desire to reform the nation's complicated tax code, the party has long been opposed to many of the proposals the president will outline Tuesday. For example, most Republicans want to lower or eliminate the capital gains tax and similarly want to end taxes on estates, not expand them.

Administration officials pointed to a third proposal from the president as one they hope Republicans would support: a fee on the roughly 100 U.S. financial firms with assets of more than $50 billion. Officials said the fee is similar to a proposal from former Republican Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan, who led the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee. Camp's plan, however, was part of a larger proposal to lower the overall corporate income tax rate.

Raising the capital gains rate, ending the inheritance loophole and tacking a fee on financial firms would generate $320 billion in revenue over a decade, according to administration estimates. Obama wants to put the bulk of that money into a series of measures aimed at helping middle-class Americans. Among them:

—A credit of up to $500 for families in which both spouses work. The administration says 24 million couples would benefit from the proposal, which would apply to families with annual income up to $210,000.

—Expanding the child care tax credit to up to $3,000 per child under age 5. The administration says the proposal would help more than 5 million families with the cost of child care.

—Overhauling the education tax system by consolidating six provisions into two, a move that could cut taxes for 8.5 million families. Republicans have been open to the idea of consolidating education tax breaks.

Obama's call for higher taxes on the wealthy could further antagonize Republicans who are already angry with the president over his vows to veto several of the party's priorities, including legislation to approve construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, make changes to the president's signature health care legislation and block his executive actions on immigration.

"Slapping American small businesses, savers and investors with more tax hikes only negates the benefits of the tax policies that have been successful in helping to expand the economy, promote savings and create jobs," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, the chairman of the Finance Committee, said in a statement. "The president needs to stop listening to his liberal allies who want to raise taxes at all costs and start working with Congress to fix our broken tax code."

Even before officials revealed Obama's tax proposals, Republicans were saying that his veto threats are a sign of a president who didn't get the message from voters who relegated his party to minority status in the November election. New Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said the president still has a chance to change his tone.

"Tuesday can be a new day," McConnell said Friday. "This can be the moment the president pivots to a positive posture. This can be a day when he promotes serious realistic reforms that focus on economic growth and don't just spend more money we don't have. We're eager for him to do so."

Beyond rolling out new proposals, Obama's address is also expected to focus on making the case to the public that recent economic gains represent a real and lasting recovery. The approach reflects the White House's belief that it has been too cautious in promoting economic gains out of fear of looking tone deaf to the continued struggles of many Americans.

Obama isn't expected to make any major foreign policy announcements. He is likely to urge lawmakers to stop the pursuit of new penalties against Iran while the U.S. and others are in the midst of nuclear negotiations with Tehran, defend his recent decision to normalize relations with Cuba, and argue for the effectiveness of U.S. efforts to stop Russia's provocations in Ukraine.


[-] 2 points by Shule (2638) 5 years ago

Are you by any chance one of those CIA lackeys that specializes in subverting elections in third world South American countries that got hired by Larry Fink and the Clinton cabal to subvert politics and elections here in the USA so that the hag Hillary can get elected? Did you learn this tactic of deluging progressive websites with long winded blog entries at the School of Americas?


[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8258) from Phoenix, AZ 5 years ago

Are employing a divide and conquer strategy you are always trying to get rid of anyone who don't hate the Dems, but then I am always trying to get rid of those that don't hate the GOP like you as a matter of fact I guess we do disagree you love the GOP I don't.

[-] 2 points by johannus (386) from Newburgh, NY 5 years ago

So basically you're bitching about people who are resisting your efforts to have Occcupy swallowed up by the duopo-lic Democrats? Your raison d' etre will require you to repeatedly call anyone who refuses to go along with your crap, "a disgruntled liberal." But then, you already know that. Repitition of lies is a long held tactic of the neoliberal agenda.

[-] -1 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

No. I'm bitching about posers like you who pretend to be disgruntled liberals while singling out Democrats for persecution on every issue and waging war with those of us who believe in voting for them more often as the lesser evil. I'm bitching about the relentless markdown campaign. It started with the first Russell Brand page submitted by one of you. It has continued almost uninterrupted since then.

Otherwise, we could have disagreed on civil terms.

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

In case you never noticed, either here or when Occupy was banging, when people endorse either of those two parties they usually got bashed pretty hard.

Thing is, the Dems always had dreams of utilizing Occupy for their own gain, because they, like the Republicans, are just horrific at organizing.

Of course when you say one thing and do another for 100 years, it makes any organizers job difficult when it comes to customer retention.

But not for you. You are a political party's golden goose. The loyal servant. The useful idiot. Get slapped up the head for an entire lifetime and come running right back for more!!

Holy fuck is our country in trouble...

[-] 2 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

what i would like to know is - who is "flips wife" - never seen a post by that id have you? if you are going to complain about her maybe you should first know who she is and what she posts - no? maybe you don't need to know - the fact that she is married to me is enough. or maybe you have 'the vision"

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

You already admitted that your wife has an ID here as well. What I know for sure is that you have been marking down most of my comments and marking up your own using multiple IDs.

By the way, how many points did the site operators dock you a few weeks back? As I recall, it was quite a few all at once. Were any of your IDs suspended?

No discipline for me. In fact, quite a few of my points were returned by the site operators all at once. That alone strongly supports my allegation.

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

i have no idea if my points were knocked down - i do not pay attention to that childish bullshit. having said that i see you don't have many so you can't get knocked down too far - ha! as for my wife - yes she has an id - that is no secret. do you know what it is. do you know what she posts?? if not maybe you should shut the fuck up about her you little quisling

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

I have a hunch regarding the ID you refer to. What I know for sure is that YOU have been using multiple IDs to mark your own comments up and mine way down. Your admission regarding your 'wife's' ID came only after you were all but proven into a corner.

The answer is no. I'll drop it if and when the markdown campaign is over and not a moment sooner.

[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

Well your crystal ball is very cloudy at the moment. When I mark your stupid comments down I use the only I'd I have. That would be flip. The fact that you think I have lots of ids marking you down means there are lots of us - ha! I can tell you for sure my wife has never marked anyone down. She would not know how. How about an apology for calling out the poor innocent woman. Gotta go. I need time to search your comments and MARK THEM DOWN!

[-] -2 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Hey flip. Has your user rating of 7101 been frozen by the site operators? What sort of behavior on your part could result in such a thing? Did it have anything to do with the several hundred points you were docked recently? Seriously. Just how many times have you marked your own comments up using multiple IDs?

[-] -1 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

oh god

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Eminent domain fine and dandy for Keystone-obsessed GOP   By Jane Kleeb, Bold Nebraska - 01/14/15 08:07 PM EST

Republicans have lost their way (“Key court approves Keystone’s route through Nebraska,” Jan. 9). It used to be that property rights were a conservative value, but when oil company interests are involved, apparently property rights mean nothing. You might expect Republicans to bend over backward to help farmers and ranchers prevent the taking of their land by a foreign corporation. But in the case of Keystone XL, those farmers and ranchers have been ignored and belittled as “fringe extremists.” The obsession over trying to take down President Obama has led the GOP down a path of hypocrisy.

After the famous Kelo eminent domain case in 2004, House Republicans passed a bill that made it clear “farmland owners need to have long-term certainty regarding their property rights in order to make the investment decisions to commit land to these uses.” The bill went on to say, “the use of eminent domain to take farmland and other rural property for economic development threatens liberty, rural economies, and the economy of the United States.”

Placing a high-risk, high-pressure, maximum-capacity pipeline that has tar sands and chemicals like benzene is anything but adding “certainty” to a farmer. Helping expand tar sands adds to carbon pollution, which leads to climate change — also something not on the “good” list for farmers’ livelihoods and rural economies. Republicans and Democrats have turned their backs on farmers and ranchers, all so they can show up at the next Big Oil event with their hand out.

TransCanada’s one-sided, often forced, contracts tell landowners they should, at the property owner’s expense, take out liability insurance because  economic damages to land and water are not covered under any federal law when a spill happens. On top of that, TransCanada leaves the pipeline in the ground for the landowner to dig up and restore the soil once TransCanada is finished using that massive piece of foreign steel. Again, at the landowners’ risk and the landowners’ expense.

Republicans have fancy floor posters they bring to Congress showing mythical job numbers. Where are the posters of 80-year landowners being harassed by endless phone calls and uninvited visits from TransCanada land agents? Where is the poster talking about how eminent domain to take farmland away is all of the sudden fine and dandy?

Obama has the Heartland running through his veins. Turning his back on farmers, ranchers and tribal communities was and is never an option. We stand with the president to protect our property rights and to protect our water for our kids and the livelihoods that put food on Americans’ tables every single day.

The six-year fight is simple: If you support Keystone XL, you support eminent domain for private gain. Folks in the Heartland will never forget that Republicans willingly putting our water, climate and property rights at-risk all to help one foreign tar sands corporation.


[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Like I said poser posse, from now on, I'm posting a new piece of evidence for each comment you mark down. Say that reminds me.


[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Update: Another 30 minutes. Another 28 points lost. Well over 100 just within the last 24 hours. Several hundred within the last few weeks. My poser critics have been very busy. Say that reminds me.

Republicans Wrong Again - Abu Ghaith is Convicted. The Republicans said we can't hold trials for big time terrorists in American Federal criminal courts. They clearly do not believe in our system of justice.

The Republicans said we can't hold trials for  big time terrorists in New York City. Republican's hate big cities and really hate New York.

They said we can't trust American juries to convict these terrorists. Republican's do not trust the American people.

They said a trial will cause to much pain and anguish for New Yorkers and cause them to relive the horror of 9-11 all again.  The people of New York and all Americans relive 9-11 every day.

They said a trial would be a media circus. How many of you followed the trial or even knew it was going on?  I forgot about it.

They said a trial in lower Manhattan will cause traffic jams and general chaos. Did not happen.

He was convicted.

Rudy Giuliani was wrong. John McCain was wrong. Lindsey Graham was wrong. Peter King was wrong. Dick Cheney was wrong (but then he always is).

The Republican Party has proven time and time again they are on the wrong side of history.

They are on the wrong because they lack faith in American justice.

They are wrong because they lack faith in the American people.

Let's face it folks the Republican Party is just wrong.


[+] -4 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

The Republican Effort To Rollback Workplace Safety Regulations is Literally Killing Americans

In a perfect world where human beings adhered to the mantra “do no harm,” there would likely be little need for rules and regulations, but the world is not perfect and humans do need rules, laws, and regulations. One of the overriding reasons humans need rules and regulations is to protect them from people who could not care less if their actions harmed others whether it is driving drunk, selling poisoned food, or forcing workers to labor in unsafe conditions. Republicans despise regulations on businesses they claim are trustworthy and full of altruistic regard for the environment, consumers, and their workers, and decry the cost of adhering to regulations kills businesses and jobs. However, not adhering to regulations kills workers that never seems to bother Republicans, or their business sector supporters which is why they vehemently oppose regulations; especially those enforced by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA).

During the 2012 presidential campaign, a large percentage of business owners complained that regulations under the Obama Administration were too costly, killed jobs, and burdensome. That was the complaint of a Wisconsin businessman, Lance Johnson, who said President Obama’s workplace safety inspectors were encumbering him and killing jobs with too much red tape. According to Johnson in a 2012 Wall Street Journal campaign story, “I’ve never been audited by more government agencies in my life than I have under Obama.” It is probably because President Obama is not George W. Bush and tasked OSHA regulators with actually doing their job regardless the Republican cuts to the agency.

Johnson is the president of Johnson Brass & Machine Foundry Inc., and bemoaned what he called “aggressive” OSHA regulators who subjected him to duplicative audits he claimed were unnecessary and cost him “well in the six figures.” OSHA disputed Johnson’s “duplicative audits” claim, and according to their records had proposed penalties of $9,638 for exposing workers to “apparent hazards” in 2011 which is a far cry from “well in the six figures.”

OSHA is tasked with monitoring health and safety in the workplace, and investigators will discover if the hazards they cited Johnson’s company for were corrected because on Tuesday a “catastrophic failure” of machinery injured eight workers and sent four to the hospital; two had to be airlifted to a nearby burn unit. Fortunately none of the workers’ injuries were life-threatening and according to Johnson the eight workers were “only” sprayed with molten metal on their legs and backs. Johnson did not respond to questions asking if he still hated President Obama for imposing on him with aggressive OSHA regulators he asserted were “too burdensome.”

After the horrifying industrial accident, Johnson said in a statement that, “For more than one hundred years my family has taken great pride in our safety record and our close relationship with our employees. As the fourth president of this family-owned business, I can say we are all deeply saddened by the accident at our plant.” The Milwaukee-Wisconsin Journal Sentinel reported that the state fire marshal’s office assisted local police in “an ongoing investigation of the cause of the machinery failure;” the investigators were joined by federal officials with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Johnson was away at the time or he could have gave the overly aggressive federal OSHA regulators a piece of his mind about burdensome regulations, audits, and complained about the “lost jobs” the penalties for “apparent hazards” at the foundry cost his business.

It is not the first time a business, or industry, that complains bitterly about burdensome and costly safety regulations is the scene of industrial accidents that more often than not kill workers. The Deepwater Horizon (BP oil disaster) oil platform that exploded killing 12 workers and poured 4.9 million barrels (210 million gallons) of oil into the Gulf of Mexico was caused, in part, by the Republican-preferred ”self-regulating” nature of the oil industry in 2010. Also in 2010, the Upper Big Branch Mine disaster killed 29 out of 31 miners at the site of the worst mine disaster since 1970. A state-funded independent investigation found Massey Energy directly responsible for the explosion and subsequent deaths due to “flagrant safety violations.” One of the former Massey superintendents at the mine confessed that he conspired to impede the safety enforcement efforts of the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration at the directions of the mine’s owners.

Last year in Texas, the West Fertilizer plant explosion killed fifteen people, injured more than 160, and destroyed over 150 buildings because it did not have adequate, and mandatory, safeguards in place to store volatile anhydrous ammonia. The company had been investigated and cited for not even having a permit for two storage tanks in 2006, the same year the Environmental Protection Agency fined the company’s owners for failure to file a risk management plan. In 2012, the Department of Transportation further fined the company for violations regarding its storage of the chemicals that blew up, killed 15 people, and leveled the town. The common denominator in all the man-made disasters is, even with regulations in place to protect workers, the companies’ owners found them too burdensome, too costly, and they would claim “killed jobs” to bring the facilities into compliance with health and safety regulations.

Earlier this year, after a West Virginia chemical storage facility dumped toxic chemicals into the Dan River affecting drinking water for 300,000 people, Republican John Boehner insisted that the last thing the poor beleaguered “Freedom Industries” needed was more regulations. Boehner even had the temerity to blame President Obama for not enforcing regulations that Republicans refuse to enact under any conditions. In fact, Republicans think so little of workplace safety regulations they have dependably cut funding for OSHA because they just cannot have “aggressive regulators” wading in to a private business and inspecting, auditing, and penalizing businesses for apparent hazards to workers or surrounding communities.

It is understandable that business is not enamored with regulations, regulatory agencies, or in many cases their workers’ safety, especially when their sole regard is the bottom line. But their workforce is why they have a bottom line in the first place and one would expect that ensuring the health and safety of the people making them millions would be every bit as important as profits, but apparently that is not always the case. One hopes the workers who were sprayed with molten metal have a speedy recovery, and that the company owner is duly and severely punished if safety regulators, local police, and fire marshals find he held his workers in the same contempt as he does OSHA safety regulations. If history is any indication, he will likely shift the blame to lax regulatory oversight or the Black guy in the White House, or both.


[+] -4 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 5 years ago

This site is like an ant farm that's been gassed with something that makes the ants very paranoid.

[+] -4 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

It also makes well over 400 of your points disappear within a matter of weeks.

[-] -2 points by TechJunkie (3029) from Miami Beach, FL 5 years ago

I down voted you for that.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

so 25 airstrikes tomorrow instead of 33 ?

[-] 1 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

that was really funny

[-] -3 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

I'll pass on returning the favor. After all, I've never accused you of taking part in the 'markdown' campaign against me.

But your implication is wrong. I'll remind you. A few weeks ago, the site operators saw fit to temporarily suspend two, three or more IDs which I exposed for relentless stalking and marking. They also saw fit to restore approximately 400 of my points at that time. The markdown campaign subsided for a short time but has recently kicked right back into high gear. I'm not the only target. I'm just one of several users who refuse to buy into this 'don't vote' CRAP shoveled relentlessly by the very same IDs which have been taking part in the markdown campaign.

Your implication of paranoia was dead wrong. However, that does not make you my enemy. I have no evidence or reason to accuse you of anything. In the interest of peace, I'll even pass on returning the mark.

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

if only mark down were public like voting

oh wait

[-] -2 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

The scoring system has been abused so heavily by users with multiple IDs that it has lost any legitimate purpose it once had.

By the way, I have not responded negatively to any of your posts that I recall. Sometimes, the order in which replies appear within a thread make it difficult to tell.

I have no guess regarding the consistency of US or coalition air strikes overseas.

[+] -4 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

By John Carter, Las Vegas Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2015 | 2 a.m.

View more of the Sun's opinion section Editorials - the Sun's viewpoint Columnists - local and syndicated writers Letters to the editor - readers' views Write a letter to the editor On the first day of the 114th Congress, Republicans went after Social Security by placing new restrictions on routine transfers between Supplemental Security Income and Social Security Disability Insurance, known as reallocations. According to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, SSDI isn’t broken but is strained due to demographic trends that the reallocations are intended to address. According to the CBPP, if these reallocations are made, both programs are solvent until 2033. I believe if the cap is raised on the rich (the point at which the rich no longer contribute), Social Security will be solvent for many more years.

The Republicans also pushed for “dynamic scoring.” That allows them to set budget projections based off the debunked “Reaganomics/trickle down” theology, which says if you cut taxes for the rich it will magically add revenues to the Treasury. For those who still subscribe to this debunked theory, look no further than what Gov. Sam Brownback has done to Kansas.

Dynamic scoring will set the table for more tax cuts for the super wealthy, furthering our national debt.

As if we didn’t know the disastrous agenda congressional Republicans had in store (I’m actually just guessing because they certainly didn’t run on the issues during the midterm campaigns), this first day has proven our fears correct.

The 114th Congress will be all about tax cuts for the rich, further deregulation of financial and energy sectors, Trans Pacific Partnership (aka more offshoring of American jobs) and more assaults on the safety net.


[-] 0 points by flip (7101) 5 years ago

it is so great when you do this - i do not have to waste much time to down vote you - you just line them up for me - thanks

[-] 0 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Mark away slick. My goal is to keep the visitors informed.


[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

Elections need o be holidays

a government without the consent of the majority of the people cannot claim to be a democracy.

[-] 0 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

I agree.

[+] -4 points by StillModestCapitalist (343) 5 years ago

Rick Perry Remained Silent When Three Republicans Were Arrested For DUI

Rick Perry’s terrible, horrible, no good, very bad month may have gotten worse. Much worse. Our friends at Forward Progressives stumbled on some tidbits that cast Perry’s attempt to strong-arm Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg out of office–one that has him facing criminal charges for abuse of power–in a damning light. It seems that on at least two occasions in Perry’s 13-plus years as governor, Republican district attorneys were convicted for driving drunk–the very thing for which Perry is trying to oust Lehmberg. And yet, unlike with Lehmberg, Perry didn’t fall over himself to have these Republican prosecutors removed from office. Later on, a former Republican lawmaker was arrested for DUI–and actually got promoted even though he’d refused to take field sobriety tests or blood tests.

Thursday’s edition of The Dallas Morning News reports that in 2002, Terry McEachern, the DA for Swisher County in the Panhandle, was arrested by police in New Mexico after one of his relatives reported him swerving into oncoming traffic and running off the road. He was convicted of aggravated DWI the following June. There is no record of Perry taking any action to force McEachern from office on this occasion. The Morning News also noted that in 2009, Rick Harrison, the DA for Kaufman County in the Metroplex (west of Dallas), was arrested for hitting a car in Seagoville after driving the wrong way down a street. It was actually his second DUI conviction, a fact which prompted local Republicans to demand his resignation. But Harrison refused to step down–and Perry made no move to push him out. It says a lot about the state of the Republican Party in Texas that the Kaufman County Republican chairman fully supports Perry’s efforts to push out Lehmberg.

What’s the difference? Well, neither McEachern nor Harrison was leading a corruption investigation that was getting very close to Perry. At the time of her arrest and conviction for DUI last year, Lehmberg was investigating possible illicit distribution of grant money from Perry’s signature project, the Texas Cancer Research and Prevention Institute, in her capacity as head of the state’s Public Integrity Unit. And as mentioned above, both McEachern and Harrison are Republicans. Lehmberg is a Democrat.

As if that wasn’t enough stew in the pot, in September 2012 Jack Stick, a deputy inspector general for the Texas Health and Human Services Commission, was arrested for DUI in Austin. Earlier in the decade, Stick served a single term representing some suburbs of Austin in the Texas House of Representatives. Texas Dentists For Medicaid Reform got its hands on the police dash cam footage of Stick’s arrest, which shows Stick refused to take a field sobriety test. According to arrest records, he also refused to take a blood test. Fast forward to March 2014, when Stick was promoted to chief legal counsel for the commission. Stick’s DUI hearing has been postponed almost two years; it is now scheduled for August 28. Granted, Stick hasn’t been convicted yet. But the standard for acceptable behavior from a public official is set much lower than the one below which you go to jail–and it doesn’t exactly inspire public confidence when someone can behave in the manner Stick did and not only keep his job, but get a promotion.

Perry is facing criminal charges primarily because special prosecutor Michael McCrum, who investigated the matter, felt Perry’s line-item veto of funding for the Public Integrity Unit amounted to an unlawful act of political retribution. Perry, however, counters that he was acting well within his rights to zero out the Public Integrity Unit’s funding unless Lehmberg resigned. Indeed, ThinkProgress’ Ian Milhiser points out that due to the broad discretion Texas governors have in using their veto power, McCrum will have to overcome a “significant constitutional obstacle” to win a conviction.

That being said, even if Perry does manage to win in a court of law, it’s hard to see how he can win in the court of public opinion. Let’s review. Two Republican prosecutors are convicted of DUI, and yet Perry does nothing. Another prominent Republican is arrested for DUI, refuses to take field sobriety tests or blood tests, and is actually promoted to an important legal post with his case still outstanding. And yet, when a Democratic prosecutor is convicted of DUI, Perry does everything short of moving heaven and earth to push her out. Now add in that the Democratic prosecutor heads an anti-corruption unit that is currently mounting an investigation that’s getting very close to Perry. Does anyone else think there’s a double standard here?

Perry has been an elected official without interruption since 1985–six years in the state house, eight years as agriculture commissioner, two years as lieutenant governor, and over 13 years as governor. In that time, he’s talked his way out of many a sticky wicket. But if he has any hopes of running for president in 2016, he’s going to have to talk his way out of this one–and frankly, I don’t see how he can do it. Even if he manages to stay out of jail, his political career is over.