Forum Post: Proposal to America & the World on "How to Accomplish the Marches for the Return of the Glass-Steagall Act & to Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators." --And how we all WIN by Succeeding Here!
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 20, 2011, 7:32 p.m. EST by Howtodoit
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Hello, I should first point out here that I'm an Independent, nothing said or posted here was swayed by any affiliations (except for the school of common sense). I just saw an opportunity here with this OWS Forum to hopefully help more people understand how and why we got into this Financial Nightmare, and one possible way to fix it. That's all. J.E. Miller
MISSION/OBJECTIVE
Starting today, America & the World turns its Focus to these two Critical Causes, why? They will hurt Wall Street’s Greed the MOST, while helping Americans & the World the MOST! The Finality will be a March held at the Lincoln Memorial and in every City and Town in the USA (and I hope the World too) on June 16, 2012, the 79th Anniversary of the signing of the Glass-Steagall Act. And maybe let's call The March: "The Financial Woodstock for Wall Street Reform!"
Why do it this way? It’s not only symbolic (in two ways), but it also shows Congress Today we mean Business! Plus, this will give us plenty of time to educate the PUBLIC, why? Because once this gets out to the MASSES, not only will they be MAD, but they will RISE UP and help us accomplish these two Huge Goals: The Return of the Glass-Steagall Act & Closing All Loopholes for Oil Speculators. You have to remember here that Congress and Wall Street pulled a fast one on us in 1999-2000, and 99% of the public is unaware of what happened; otherwise, they would of Closed Down the Wall Streets Casinos a long time ago. And once they do, America & the "Whole World" will be much better off. Plus, now our "Friends" around the World have a time-tested Blueprint on how to Breakup & Close Down their own Wall Street Casinos!
With all due respect to the U.S. News Media who pose this question, "How do we repair the Economy?” The first two required steps are to Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act & Close All Oil Loopholes, why? For example, the shattering of the G-S Act in 1999, which removed the barrier between mixing banking, securities, and insurance activities, is now conclusively linked to the major collapse of America's Economy--and their Saving Accounts (see Step 2). And why Close Oil Loopholes? Oil is over $95 a Barrel now and it’s not because of a Supply and Demand problem...it’s the Financial Giants gobbling up the “Oil Futures" contracts and hoarding them. How can they do this? Congress changed the Energy Regulation Laws with the Commodities Future Modernization Act of 2000 (see March Forum), which Deregulated ENERGY markets (and Derivatives). So we don't have an oil shortage problem, we have an Oil Speculation Problem! How do we fix it? We call former Chair of CFTC Brooksley Born & Dir. Professor Michael Greenberger, why? They tried to stop it. And Media please help us fix this mess by letting the public know what really happened and is still happening...
Step 1: UNITING THE WORLD
1-First, to help Unite America & the World we need to find a Project Manager, whether that be a Individual or an Organization; and then have them form a "Worldwide" broad-based Coalition of Organizations such as Non-Profit Groups, Trade Associations, and Corporations who believe in our Cause. Why? For this Plan to Work, I feel it has to not only include organizations found in every City & Town in America, but it also has to include organizations found on every Continent. If not, it may not work. Friends, this is most likely the most difficult and most important battle for our Financial Future we will ever Face! It's that Big on Wall Street, and throughout Wall Streets of the World!--Why? They want to keep their Casinos Open! So they will Fight us with everything they have: Tons of Cash to Fund every Trick in the Book--But, We the People, UNITED, Will Win this War! And because of the importance of having this Regulatory System back in place, I feel the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act & the Commodity Futures Trading Commission Act of 1974 (which will Fix Oil/Derivatives Loopholes) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Trading_Commission both should be Enacted into Constitutional Amendments. So this doesn't happen to Future Generations--ever again!
Step 2: EDUCATION
1-Before we March for the Glass-Steagall Act & for the End of Oil Speculator Loopholes, everyone needs to be on the Same Page. All please thoroughly study these links:
November 4, 1999, the day America's current "Financial Nightmare" began: http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-the-gramm-leach-bliley-act-of-1999-came-up/
"The Warning" CFTC Chair Brooksley Born "Sounds the Warning on Deregulations" and Alan Greenspan...are furious about it! http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-warning-frontline-show-former-cftc-chair-brook/
Step 3: ORGANIZATION
1-Next, we need to create a Facebook page with pics of "The Signing of Glass-Steagall Act" (you get the idea), our Mission Statement, Educational Links, more on the Marches, Fund Raising links, etc.
2-Marching Signs: Here's some pics to use; go to Google Images and type in the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. And maybe at the Marches we have two large pics: Senator Glass on one side of the stage, and Senator Steagall hanging on the other? Plus, remember FDR signed it into Law. There's also a group shot of all three there; let's also honor their Relatives at the Marches too? Nice icing on the cake. Also on Google Images find the last pic at the end of this link: "We Killed Glass-Steagall" (priceless): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0k2PmF-o5Q&feature=related Plus, we need some Anti-Oil Speculator Signs too.
3-We can also use these pics for Posters, T-Shirts, Buttons, Hats, etc.
4-To future Educate the Public, we also need a flier with a brief description (in plain english) on why we need to Reinstate G-S Act & to Close Oil Loopholes (or in other words why they are central to our Causes; for example, G-S Act worked fine from 1933 to 1999, until they Modernized it in 1999!--Same with the 1974 CFTC Act, until they Modernized that one too in 2000!)
We want to break it down like this:
--Time to Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, why?
--Time to Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators, why?
Step 4: ALLIANCES/COMMITTEES
1-To Draft the Legislation to Reinstate the G-S Act of 1933 & CFTC Act of 1974 (plus to fix the other Wall Street schemes), now we should reach out to the Experts who know how to get this written up & done right; such as:
--Senator Byron Dorgan
--Former Chair of CFTC Brooksley Born
--Former Director of CFTC Professor Michael Greenberger
--Senator Maria Cantwell
--Ralph Nader
--Public Citizen
--Americans for Financial Reform
--Elizabeth Warren, Special Advisor for The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
How did I come to this conclusion? After 4 years of researching this subject, which seems to be dominated by Corporate Greed verses the best interest of Americans, this distinguished group are the ones that have been in the trenches fighting this War against Financial Deregulations for us. And most since the G-S Act & CFTC Act of 1974 were removed in 1999/2000. So that's my A-Team working in Harmony for Financial Reform, what I would call "The Super Committee for Financial Reform." And I strongly feel that we should Invite "all" of the them to table, why? Because when we accomplished this "Huge Task"--they all deserve to be a Big Part of it; after all, they are the most Qualified--I feel we should Honor their work & many others!
Step 5: BRINGING THE MARCH TO WDC ON 6/16/12 & WORLDWIDE
1-First, we need to find a great Advertising/PR Agency (or Inter'l Alliance of Ad Ag?), to help put us on the World's Stage...and to give us the Marketing Tools we'll need. Then, we need to reach out to a Concert Producer who has a lot of experience producing Large Scale Events such as FarmAid; one that knows how to go Worldwide, which includes TV Coverage with the Networks and Cable Stations. In addition, to give our Marches more legitimacy, I feel we should also have the same Alliances mentioned above on a Live TV & Interactive Panel.
Step 6: FUND RAISING
1-Of course, to Create these Marches in every City/Town in USA & the World means we are going to have to ask for a lot of favors; but, we also need to start a Fund Raising Drive through the Facebook page now. As we Educate the Public on how we got here, I feel more of them will Help us--THEY will love You for doing this!
Step 7: CALL TO ACTION
Folks, it's the "Big Two." The Two Biggest Changes that will help Americans & Citizens of the World the most NOW. How? One thing experts say a Barrel of Oil (in USA) will Drop to under $70. At least according to Exxon's CEO in May/2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_U4U0I
And since Marching is in style now, it's Time for All of America & the World to Unite and Knock this out Soon! United this is a Cake Walk! Education is the Key! And once this gets out to the general public some of the people in the business of Trading Energy Futures will have some questions to answer for us; such as, with all due respect, how can you sleep knowing your Excessive Speculation in the Energy Commodities Markets is costing a lot of HARD WORKING fellow Americans & Citizens of the World the ability to pay their Bills?--You all are Wrecking the World's Economy!--For example, why did American Airlines just file for Bankruptcy Protection? One big reason was they couldn't afford their Fuel Cost. Why? We know now. Instead Traders, come on, you all know the Real Deal too; so please help America Close these Loopholes. Then, it's all good.
Additionally, we have the Lawmakers and Financial Lobbyist to deal with, the ones who are against Reinstating the G-S Act, which was put into place by the Congress in 1933 to not only help Save America from the Great Depression, but also to prevent their "Financial Nightmare" from happening again to Future Generations--so much for that!
And, after all, haven't the Wall Street Players made enough money? And how many Billions have they lost of our money? And how much money did we spend to Bail them out?--I guess that's why they want to remain Unregulated! Here's a link I found that sums it up well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg&NR=1
Step 8: (below)
Crushed Brooksley Born pass @CFTC Act '00 to forbid rules against fraud! Dodd-Frank serious--repealed it FF 17 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyZEIlIUPvM #CNN
Big shout out to OWS for taking battle to Reform Wall Street into the main stream. It's been 12 years now. Cheers, you did it--the word is OUT! Only way fix Wall Street is to go back to regulations we had in place in 1999 & 2000; or Glass-Steagall Act & '74/'36 CFTC Act--the Acts that helped to make our Country Great!
I think you should physically take these ideas straight to OWS and get them to adopt G-S Act and closing Oil Loopholes as central ideas. These kind of concrete methods are exactly what OWS needs to get true financial reform. This is easier said than done, however, for there is yet to be clear leadership within the OWS movement, but whatever's adopted in New York branch tends to be adopted by the rest of the movement. With there full support, these rallies should be a breeze to organize.
I'm down for the Glass-Stegal act. You have my undivided attention and support.
action time...
For Placement:
Step 8: IT'S TIME TO GO HOLLYWOOD!
There's nothing like Star Power to help get the word out and to help bring more people to the Marches. Below is a link to a list of celebrities I put together based on either their Charitable work, or I just felt they are a right fit for the Marches (we are going need them in their hometowns as well!). Btw, I've taken the liberty to already reach out to over 200 celebrities on Twitter, and a big one stepped-up to the plate, Ashley Judd! Also well-known for her work as a Global Ambassador for YouthAids! Thanks Ashley for being the first to join this Mission to Reform Wall Street.
Here’s the link to the other celebrities I would reach out to: http://occupywallst.org/forum/heres-a-great-way-to-get-the-word-out-on-the-march/
CONCLUSION
Once we succeed in Reinstating these two Vital Acts that were both shattered in 1999/2000, and which are both now conclusively linked by many scholar's to the Collapse of our Financial System, I feel the People of America will have the strong voice and clout on Capitol Hill it not only desires, but needs to move on to other Major Objectives such as Campaign Reform, Voters Rights, Clean Air, and so on and so on...
FINAL THOUGHTS
Some of you may be thinking, why is he posting this Proposal for the World to See? I say why not? After all they will find out soon enough, and It’s time to let all of America & the World know what our next step is (our game plan); so hopefully, they come along on the RIDE WITH US! Plus, it’s time to show Congress that we have a great plan and we mean business: We want our Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 back in PLACE, along with our The Commodity Futures Trading Commission Act of 1974 (which will close oil speculators loopholes including loopholes for Heating Oil and Natural Gas)--With all due respect, it's as simple as that Congress!
In addition, the Green Energy Markets also need to be Regulated under the same Regulatory Framework as stated in The Commodity Futures Trading Commission Act of 1974 (or close) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Trading_Commission ; if not, once Green Energy Technology takes off--Wall Street will be able to "rob us blind" in those markets as well. And what about Derivatives? Those "Land Mines" laying in our Deregulated Financial Battlefield. We can also get those under control with the help of Senator Byron Dorgan, former Chair of CFTC Brooksley Born, and former Director of CFTC Professor Michael Greenberger; plus many other experts. That's the key to making this a success, besides the industry's reform pro's, we also need people from "all walks of life" to come together and join this Mission: To Remake American & the World into the Financial Giants they once were! Before the Wall Street Casinos Opened!
So everyone, please join us! As far as I'm concerned, this is just not a OWS March, this is a March for all of America & the World! One everyone needs to be a part of; otherwise, it might be impossible to achieve this Huge Task!
AND TV, RADIO, & NEWSPAPERS WE NEED YOUR HELP HERE! PLEASE EXPOSE THIS CRISIS AND HELP US SOLVE IT. AFTER ALL, OVERNIGHT, YOU HAVE THE POWER TO LET ALL OF AMERICA & THE WORLD KNOW WHAT REALLY WENT WRONG, AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO FIX IT! WHY? FOR ALL OF AMERICA TO BE ON SOUND FOOTING AGAIN, WE NEED TO REINSTATE THESE IMPORTANT FINANCIAL REGULATIONS THAT HELPED MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT! --OR IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S TIME TO CLOSE DOWN THE WALLS STREET CASINOS! PERIOD!
Here's the March link: http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/ The Marches to REINSTATE the Glass-Steagall Act & to Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators. Let's get Focused--We don't need to REINVENT the Wheel--This will Reinstate the Important Regulations we had from 1933 to 1999--Before Congress SHATTERED them!
For everyone new to this Forum, it is what it is, just a Forum so far, an Idea Up for Discussion; one, obviously I like. One I feel that could not only go a long way for OWS (or any Organization that wants to lead this Charge!); but, even more importantly, our Whole WORLD. Why? Because We can't fix Wall Street and Create more Jobs until we make Congress break-up the Big Financial Giants; so then they have to release the Trillions of Cash they are sitting on into the Economy, make sense? After all, that was a big part of how they fixed the problem in 1933 for Future Generations!
By the way, I not an official member of OWS or anything but Meals on Wheels (and if anyone from WDC is curious, for MOW's I do have my Level 2 Homeland Security Background Clearance). This one is for all of us...
God Bless America & the World! United we can do this!
Sincerely,
Howtodoit
Concerned Citizen
Right on OP, woooo!
[-] jeyowell1 2 points 2 weeks ago
Repeal the 879-page Dodd-Frank act of 2011. Reinstate the 37-page Glass-Stegall act of 1933. G-S worked for 60 years. Despite its length, D-F is still not complete with 243 rules yet to be defined by regulators. The regulators have asked the financial industry to fill in those blanks. Essentially the foxes have been asked to not only guard the henhouse but to build it too. Right now the banks derive only 30% of their income from lending and 70% from gambling, euphemistically referred to as “trading”. One by-product of this is that all the monetary benefit from productivity gains in the last decade accrued exclusively to the “financial sector”. The imperative of a functional financial system is simple: efficient allocation of capital to productive enterprise, because the financial system should support economic activity, not the other way around. Clearly, the titans of finance have failed miserably at this, yet they not only still have jobs, they continue to be richly rewarded for their incompetence.
The Glass-Steagall Act is just one... Large drop in the bucket. It still does not address the problem. Repealing the Glass-Steagall Act is all well and good and needs to be done ! It won't change anything. The elite will just continue to buy our politicians and force them to pass laws that rig the game in favor of the banks.
The problem with this country is so blatantly obvious. Sadly, most people can't see it.
Time to march for Glass-Steagall Act!
It's time to get something big accomplished!
Just Tweeted this:
I don't hold it against any Senator Voted for GLB Act. At Time, easy let Guard Down--Now Facts are Conclusive--Let's Forgive/Forget--USA 1st
& this:
Regarding Energy Traders, I want to Make this Clear to the World: This is now their Fault, but the Lawmakers who Changed the Rules!
Yes, this with Campaign Reform added to these G-S Act Marches would be ideal!
A great recap (10 yrs later) on how we got into this "Financial Nightmare" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hh8EubXDV0&feature=related
Again, I pick them on who makes the most sense...
our next step?
In case anyone missed this:
Jan 2012 PBS/Bill Moyers & Company:
Author/journalist Gretchen Morgenson on how we got into our financial mess and who's to blame. And why the Dodd-Frank Act is not a fix: http://billmoyers.com/segment/gretchen-morgenson-on-industry-influence/
Reagan budget director David Stockman on "Crony Capitalism." The revolving door between Wall Street & D.C. http://billmoyers.com/episode/crony-capitalism/
Byron Dorgan on Making Banks Play by the Rules; Glass-Steagall: http://billmoyers.com/segment/byron-dorgan-on-making-banks-play-by-the-rules/
Former Citigroup CEO John Reed on how merger of Citicorp & Travelers Group brought down the Glass-Steagall Act: http://billmoyers.com/segment/john-reed-on-big-banks-power-and-influence/
Remarkable efforts for Justice! Bravo!
..... Yes, this Topic post is a Long read, but it's meant to educate, and get you involved. ( Oh, dont forget to sign that petition, and get this Topic posted to your friends... and Mine too if you have the time left... TY!)
Marlow/ editor
Thanks Marlow! And I will sign the Petition! Take care
Here's some more info on how we got into this mess:
60 Minutes: Credit Default Swaps & how they brought down Economy. It's Time to March to Close Down Walls Street's Casinos! Party's over WS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox97-yJCZtY
@60Minutes Here's great story on how the Wall Street Casinos Opened! And Derivatives & Default Swaps--WStreet's Fav Bet! http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4546583n&tag=mncol;lst;1
U R most Welcome. Some really Great Petitions are out there for those who cant Occupy.. beat the streets in their community. .. Everyone who wants to be a part of the Solution should be able to find a way.
(google, 'Stop the Corruption on Wall Street'.. open the petition site, and sign.. TY!) Marlow
The best way for this to work is to unite the World! Keep up the great work Marlow!
Howtodoit!
Good to see your still fighting the good fight.
So what's the next step with OWS? Let me know if you want to be "The Leader" on this 6/16/12 March, or an important part of the Worldwide board-based Coalition that is now forming on Twitter. More here @howtodoit1
All united, we can knock this out; but remember, this is the big one! So it's going to take not only OWS, but another 4 million to make Congress listen--so let's show whole who OWS is--a non-profit dedicated to all is right in humanity--right? Yes! Sincerely, Howtodoit
Thanks. I've got an upsurge in my followers on twitter. The word is spreading to unite for retaking government and ending corruption as well as pushing for "True Green Fuel/Energy Implementation". I have been checking in from time to time on your tweet activity and re-tweeting or sending out tweets of my own.There is a lot of growing activity for progressive change.
http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8gR/zL2E/B18Bb
Great news! Thanks for sharing Care2 info for all. And regarding Green Energy, that also needs to be Regulated under the same Regulatory Framework as stated in The Commodity Futures Trading Commission Act of 1974 (or close) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Trading_Commission : if not, once Green Energy Technology takes off--Wall Street will be able to "rob us blind" in those markets as well.
Exactly!
This is why we need to continue to demand proper regulating of Futures trading and speculating. These regulations must be in place and enforced to stop artificial inflation, to stop corrupt manipulation for profit. The change of fuel base does not mean a change in commonsense policies it demands inclusion of new sources as they happen.
And we will do it right!
We are moving in that direction!
And this proposal is catching on--I hope the OWS commits its troops, we'll need them--plus another 4 million or so... This March is for the World's Financial Stability! To Reinstate the Important Financial Regulations that helped make the USA Great! Without, we living under the same Deregulatory Framework that caused the Great Depression! Mark June 16. 2012 on you calendar, for the Final Victory Party--I hope!
Thanks DKAtoday, I'm trying. I just twiited this out to 100 Reporters based all over the World--that will put some pressure on the Networks to finally broadcast the truth! Or, how we got into this Financial mess; that started the OWS! Stay tuned, the ball is a rolling down hill....
You bet.Momentum is building. Good fortune to you in your contacts.
I feel it's Time to stop the Rhetoric, and Bag the Big Whale--Someone, please sign up Captain Ahab!
This is the Biggest Battle we will Face! Wall Street will Fight us with Everything they Have--Once I told my Mom what I was up to, her first question was: Jimmy, you're not going to be Murdered for this, are you? That's why we love Mom too! All will be fine...
Help!
Good luck my friends, I will meet you in WDC when we hold this March, whatever day that might be! I say sooner the better--And we don't let up NATIONWIDE until it's done, and we do not Elect Anyone into Office who doesn't have the Same Mind set; or in other words, they feel Glass-Steagall Act must be Reinstated Now, and that we must Now also Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators!
Why has a barrel of oil just shot up 20 bucks? It's not caused by supply and demand problem! Love you all! Go get 'em! Hit them where it hurts the most! And where it HELPS Americans the MOST!
Please Spread the Word--We CAN complete this Huge Task! One that Wall Street will fight us with everything they have!
Btw, I've twittered this link to over 1700 contacts so far; including the Major TV & Cable Networks, almost every major Newspaper and freelance Journalist in the Country, over 100 celebrities, The White House, Boehner, Cantor, Gingrich, Pelosi, Bachman and a few other GOP & Democrats in Congress, and almost every OWS Chapter...I bet you can't name one pro or organization who doesn't have it now...Solidarity! One thing at a time..,
And I received this from a smart political activist the day after I sent it to Newt and Cantor (last Tuesday):
"Thanks! I fully support your political endeaver of the GS bill. I find it a bit odd that even Newt and Cantor are now saying it's right now..."
Already, my friends, they are listening! Yes! WE can do this!
Yes exactly!
Documentation - Signs - Posters - T shirts.
Anything and everything we can do to show clearly what we are about.
See Also Example below.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/stop-corporate-abuse-start-now/
Great, forgot about posters! thanks for rest too DKAtoday
Someone is twitting me non-stop junk mail. I'm fearless, bring it on!
Great, howtodoit.
Here's how we help Americans the most...start from the top of Forum. At least, that's what the Scholars say....
Must See: What was true in June 2008, is still true Today (or close): Oil Speculation Hearings--First Hearings to Define it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXrGA_VKTcY
Oil hit $100 a barrel today, why? Oil Speculators! Even Exxon's CEO says it should be $60-70 per barrel--Close Oil Loopholes Now! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_U4U0I
The key to making this MARCH a success is that we also need people from "all walks of life" to come together and join this Mission: To Remake American as the Financial Giant it once was! Before the Casinos opened!
So everyone, please join us! As far as I'm concerned, this is not just a OWS March, this is a March for all of America & the World! One everyone needs to be a part of; otherwise, it might be impossible to achieve this Huge Task!
It's the White Whale First Folks! Someone sign up Captain Ahab!
USA let's get organized; united we can & will repeal Gramm's 2 Acts & Restore Glass-Steagall & old @CFTC Acts!
Thanks again beaucphs. As we know now (more than ever) mankind can't keep trying to change rules that work; such as when Senators Glass and Steagall and FDR got The G-S Act signed into law in 1933; after they realized that when Banks, Insurance Companies, and Investment Companies Merge, there's a higher problability of not only making bad investments, but also of creating investment vehicles that are so complex that nobody but the lawyers who wrote them knows what they really mean; except as we all know now, they mean zero new regulations...
So you really can't blame the government oversight agencies for this: after all, a big part of Repealing the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999 was Deregulating what they once daily did.
So let's get this done, it's way over do, we've been sold to the cleaners...once again!
One more for the road: To where it all began with Senator Phil Gramm who helped create "legal" gambling casinos for our banks: CNN's The 10 Most Responsible for Economy Collapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKQOxr2wBZQ&feature=related
Thanks I needed that, got beat up tonight; my only agenda is Reinstating the WS Regulations that help make this Country Great! Again! That's all.
Btw, have you seen this yet? The day is all started: So if we plan to March for the Glass-Steagall Act (?), I feel WE all should learn how this mess got started...and the History of the G-S Act; after all, Education will Unite us even more! Here's one for the Senator Byron Dorgan too...(this sums it up well).
Senate Floor: 2:04 pm 11/4/99
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnO_SH-4WU&feature=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAOoQEy0PI&feature=related
"Byron's Crystal Ball" (or how he likes to put it: "Common Sense.") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg&NR=1
Okay, I think it's safe to say that doing the things you're proposing should be pretty obvious to this Obama Administration but you have to ask why they haven't done it already. It should be common sense. But I think the reason why nothing is being done is because the derivatives market (600 trillion) is so powerful and nothing can stop it except for them crashing the market themselves, which may happen starting in Europe.
From Jeffrey D. Sachs: From top to bottom, Obama team filled w/ Wall Street. Romney same. 2012 election: Wall St. v. Wall Street. Who wins? http://news.yahoo.com/insight-top-justice-officials-connected-mortgage-banks-120410890.html;_ylt=ArjHemfkXMLV5Spg3PQHNF.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNsZ2dtM2Y4BG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDZTljNDVlNWItMTE4NC0zN2E5LThlOWUtMjliYzU3OTVjOWMzBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyAzJiNzNhOWEwLTQzNWYtMTFlMS1iZGY1LWY3MzQxYmQwNzFjOA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFvdnRqYzJoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3
Focus
Bypass them by moving your money, as many accounts as possible, into credit unions. At least they do not engage in risky speculation.
Bypass them by lobbying your state representatives to establish a state bank like the State Bank of North Dakota.
North Dakota has had the nation's lowest unemployment ever since the economy tanked. . .Its healthy job market is also reflected in its payroll growth numbers. . . . Year over year, its payrolls grew by 5.2 percent. Texas came in second, with an increase of 2.6 percent.
A number of other mineral-rich states were initially not affected by the economic downturn, but they lost revenues with the later decline in oil prices. North Dakota is the only state to be in continuous budget surplus since the banking crisis of 2008.
North Dakota has one thing that no other state has: its own state-owned bank. Access to credit is the enabling factor that has fostered both a boom in oil and record profits from agriculture in North Dakota.
The Bank of North Dakota (BND) does not compete with local banks but partners with them, helping with capital and liquidity requirements. It participates in loans, provides guarantees, and acts as a sort of mini-Fed for the state.
http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/north_dakota.php
Focus time!
I agree that Glass Steagall should be reinstated. However, just because we gave our last two presidents, Bush and Obama, an excuse to say their hands were tied because Glass Stegall had been reversed, was not necessarily true.
Rather than try and stop the behavior of others, or control the behavior of those who already know better but don't care, I think a faster solution is to work around them and just cut them off.
If the 99% can restructure their debts without it damaging their credit history, it basically means even if the principle of the debt is left intact, the interest rate charges can be significantly lowered, and the monthly payments extended as well. The result is more of what the 99% makes every month can be respent locally in their own communities.
Justifiable Debt Restructure significantly slows down the transfer of money back to those who hold the debt, and it frees up money to stabilize and rejuvenate local economies instead.
And then, nobody can accuse the Occupy movement of having class envy or trying to punish the successful, instead, we just bypass them and create our own power and success.
Hello, update on tweeter campaign. recent tweets:
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Sooner we have the Army mounted fight #Congress & #OilSpeculation, sooner we can Celebrate! Final Victory Party on 6/16/12? See Prof Link. 44 minutes ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @warrenbuffetBH PLS let USA know we need Glass-Steagall Act & Close Oil Loopholes: @ABC@CBSNews @FoxNews @CNBC @edshow http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/ 1 hour ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @boonepickens W/ all respect, PLS let USA know how Vital it is Close Oil Loopholes: after all, Exxon agrees... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_U4U0I @edshow 1 hour ago
boonepickens T. Boone Pickens Crude #oil is up. It should be down due to lower demand & higher US production. Why is this? It's all geopolitical. 12 Jan Retweeted by howtodoit1
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @ABC @NBCNews @CBSNews @cnnbrk @FoxNews @CNBCMake sure USA knows why we must Close Oil Loopholes before thought of #keystonexl Will Fix Oil 2 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @ABC @NBCNews @CBSNews @cnnbrk @FoxNews PLS don't buy into Congress/WS Oil Forecast. Truth is Energy Deregulated 2000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000 2 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @BarackObama @SpeakerBoehner @thehill Before think about#keystonexl--Close Oil Speculator Loopholes--11 years overdo! 2 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @BarackObama @SpeakerBoehner @ABC @NBCNews@CBSNews @cnnbrk @FoxNews CEO Wash Fed Bank wants Glass-Steagall Reinstated! http://thesunbreak.com/2012/01/17/washington-federals-roy-whitehead-on-banking-public-trust-and-regulations/ 3 hours ago
The Cat is out of the bag Wall Street! Here we come United to Take Back Our Government:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
& we won let up until it's DONE! Solidarity!
Get this, on Twitter I'm now being Followed by Senators Al Franken and Tom Toomey, plus Green Party Candidate Jill Stein, and many others...
What does that mean for us? In just 10 days the Power of Twitter and an Idea they knew was overdo, has probably saved us a lot of Protests! However, please keep that up, because if is wasn't for the OWS Troops, this Movement would have been a past memory a long time ago...But, not this time!
I'll keep you posted on the new Follows, or find me with 1. Cheers! The OWS, You are the Heart and Soul of America to me!
Let's get this done soon!
Next The Hiil, and then we get it right!
Time to get organize & unite the USA/World OWS! We need at least 10 million to make it work--Coalition time! After all, you were born on concept of liberty justice for all! Cheers
Where do we go from here? I've decided to stick with love - Martin Luther King Jr. MLK had Wall Street solution/fix in '67 http://vimeo.com/11154217
This is awesome :)
Hey therising. things are coming together with twitter campaign; now being followed by Kevin Costner's Band, Dr. Wayne Dyer, Senator Chuck Schumer, and many more...the idea is catching on Nationwide! I'll keep you in the loop! Here's my recent twitts:
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Wall Street has turned into a CASINO! How? youtube.com/watch?v=RLCvlt… The only way to fix this is Reinstating G-S Act--It's that easy folks! 1 hour ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @ @occupyfrederick Thanks for the retreat! Solidairty we can do anything! Btw, I grew up in Montgomery Co! Jim 6 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller It's Time to Remake American into Financial Giant it once was! Which changed after Wall Sreet Casinos Opened Nov 1999! occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-… 9 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @kirstiealley Hi besides being a Big Fan Fr Day 1--You are exactly what we need here--Bty, Brains & No take B-S Style--W/ Your help-Goal Now 12 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Once I told my Mom what I was up to, her 1st question: Jimmy, you're not going to get Murdered for this, are you? Why we also love Mom! Help 23 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller All of USA & The World, please join in this Battle to Regain Control of our Government(s) from the Financial Giants! United we can do Anythg 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller 99% of USA has no idea how we got into Financial Nightmare--When they do--They're going to be Outraged! Demand Congress to Close WS Casinos! 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller For me, not just OWS March, but March for all of USA! One we ALL need to be part of; or Huge Task DOA. It's WWhale First! Sign up Capt Ahab! 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller To GOP & Dems: It's Time to Forgive & Forget & put Country First! Writing on Wall: We Need G-S ACT Reinstated to Make the USA STRONG AGAIN!
Why is Oil Speculation out of Control? Former Director of U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Professor Michael Greenberger, speaks to Congress in 2008 on the high price of oil--and he's not happy about Energy Deregulations, especially The Loopholes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdtTGYQBMU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNp0y0SjOkY&feature=related
Occupy Boston is in! I think, and hope; they would be the first OWS sister Chapter here!
For the supporters of the Marches for Glass-Steagall Act and to Close Loopholes for Oil Speculators, I hear fhat the OWS is voting on this soon, please let them know your thoughts. Solidarity!
how do we let OWS know our thoughts on this ?
FRONTLINE: "The Warning" CFTC In 1999, Chair Brooksley Born "Sounds the Warning on Deregulations" and Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin, and Larry Summers are Furious About It! http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-warning-frontline-show-former-cftc-chair-brook/
Taking poll, how many OWS Believers believe in this?
I DO!
Thanks you for that EndTheFed214--Solidarity Partner--Your CAUSE should be next!
Replacing Glass/steagall is one of the most important things we could do ! since it's an old law that worked in the past it shouldn't be a hard sell to the public. I think most people were stunned to find out just how tied to wall street's failures we all are Close loophole for oil speculators ---------yup the public would love it! What about Credit default swaps? you know those 100 to one bets that real estate would never go down that put us on the hook for 10's of billions at AIG ? should an insurance company be able to make derivative bets like that?
No expert, but after 4 years of research on this subject, I say "Senator Maria Cantwell for President"--At least our Best Benchmark for our Next, Why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J2R9HKXRVw
And, by the way, my only Goal here is to help Make our Country Whole Again; by recruiting the Best who know HOW to Close Down the Wall Street's Casinos!--that's all folks!
Really I don't think you will close the wall street casinos, I also don't think we need to do that, the fed and retail banks did fine from 1933 to 1999-------------------how about just getting them out of our banking system. How about separating retail banks and investment banks? How about not letting wall street banks use the fed window ? How about not letting retail banks lend money to wall street banks or to hedge funds? 7 trillion the fed lent banks 7 trillion to cover the losses from this real estates mess
And once this gets out to the General Public, a lot of People in the Media and in the Business of Oil Futures, have a lot of Questions to Answer for Us! Such as, what were you asleep at the Wheel? And, how can you sleep Knowing your Profits are Costing "HARD WORKING" Fellow Americans the Ability to Pay their Bills!
I think we all need to learn the basics of banking and how leverage is used in banking and on wall street. Wall street love's to tell people "its complicated" They are hoping we won't look to close. It's usually not really that complicated.
exactly, I think that's what both of us are trying to do, right?
Yup!
Couldn't of said it better! Have a good night demcapitalist, DKAtoday, and All!
With reference to your posts, please inter alia also see :
a) http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/ ;
b) http://michael-hudson.com/ ;
c) http://www.nomiprins.com/ ;
d) http://www.teribuhl.com/ &
e) http://www.corpwatch.org/ .
“The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole… Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world’s money…” .- Prof. Carroll Quigley.
“Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928).
radix malorum est cupiditas ...
Yes, That's why I'm doing this, to put a stop to it by Education! They get away with this because the old school theory has been that we election her or him into office, they promised they would look after us....you know the rest!
Education is Key, and we must have patience here, the word is out!
The reason there is so much foot dragging going on regarding bringing back Glass Steagall and reinstating regulations on the commodoties market s is precisely because of the derivatives market which is now worth about 600 trillion dollars. This is the market you are fighting against. How the hell do you win against that kind of money? The way I see it is the only way to win against that money is to let them destroy themselves which is happening right now with European sovereign debt. MF Global was the first to go, wait, the others will go soon.
I'd love to see the details on that 600 trillion number. A lot of the details are still undisclosed and we don't know how long it would take to unwind those positions. If they are mainly credit default swaps that 600 trillion number is kind of like saying there's 30 trillion liability in homeowner insurance out there, There's probly not going to be any natural disaster that big , We surely are owed some transparency though. Silly me, I like to think of it as OUR banking system not as their banking system.
I'm pretty sure we will, the public, will never know the extent of the this market. Jesus, the IMF is now getting ready to bail out Europe. So here we go again, paying off the credit default swap contracts. If all the citizens here in the US could get together, the ones that have serious funds in these banks and they could all withdraw all IRA funds etc., get together these funds to create their own bank, this would be pure power for the people. It could be called the People's Bank. We're talking trillions here, and compounded, trillions more. Unfortunately, we'd need a banker to plan and carry this out. Maybe more useful would be a push to get all pension funds to divest from these crooked financial institutions before they disappear too. This is a difficult situation.
Not every banker is a pickpocket, I would think there's more people in the business very upset about all this than you think. Imagine being an actuary at AIG's insurance department. You spend your life figuring out risk to price car home and insurance and some clowns in an overseas department are selling CDS's like popcorn at the movies, something so risky the all that needs to happen is real estate prices to come down a bit and your whole company and future is risked not to mention your reputation and the fact that your friends and family now see you as a bailout parasite.
That's true. I'm sure there are plenty of people put in very bad positions and I'm familiar with the London AIG story. But I also think that alot of Americans, including myself, have been asleep at the wheel. We put the politicians we have in office and if they are a reflection of our collective condition then I'd say we're in bigger trouble than I thought. Their inability to regulate coupled with the criminals taking advantage of that fact is leading us down a dark alley. I am wondering just how out of hand this situation is going to get.
Everybody ends up asleep at the wheel when the market is going up. Everybody's making money and taking more and more risk and asking for more and more leverage, it's not a new story, it's certainly what happened in 1929 and 1929 did bring us Glass/Steagall. I was blindsided as well. There were a hand full of voices trying to stop those laws from changing in 1999 Brooksley Borne for one but they probly all seemed like party poopers at the time. Only took 8 years to blow up the economy after that. Pretty spectacular I'd say.
And after all, haven't the Wall Street Players made enough money? And how many Billions have they lost of our money? And how much money did we spend to Bail them out?--I guess that's why they want to remain Unregulated! Here's a link I found that sums it up well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg&NR=1
Who Repealed the Glass-Steagall Act? (signed by President Clinton into law on Nov 12th): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0k2PmF-o5Q&feature=related Great History Lesson here.
and Alan Greenspan and Phil Grahm. Now how do we get it back in place ?
With the Marches and the right people on our TEAM!
This bill is out there http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1489.IH: I just started reading a great book "It takes a pillage" written buy an X-Goldman executive you may have read it
this is great. thanks demcapitalist. I'll get that book too!
Please do! knowledge is power
Yes! Once you finish the book, you should post some informative out takes!
I may do it before that ! It's pretty great a few pages in.
I plan on buying it soon. Thanks for tip and all of the other great ones! Please keep them coming... demcapitalist
bring it on, you are on a roll, might like this one:
What are Derivatives? Professor Michael Greenberger explains it in 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kExdTgNZA&feature=channel
If you don't have the time to watch to whole C-SPAN show, fast forward to 22 minutes in, right before where a caller from NY asks a great question. The Professor, again, explains it in plain english...also love he's "Wild West" analogy 34 minutes into...
Thanks demcapitalist
I did a ton of studying after the banks fell, plus I've traded derivatives ---just for myself. Believe me when I tell you I don't think my bank should be doing it. I have a friend who was a bank teller. He told me tellers get fired for the smallest discrepancies. They can keep track of deposits to the penny but are unable to notice when some rouge trader runs up billions in losses. There's something wrong with the way our FDIC insured money is being handled and with the fact that we watch tellers like a hawk but trust traders. Traders have some gambling issues ---it's what makes them traders.
Gambing issues? The lunatic banksters of New York, aka gambling addicts are crashing the European economies with credit default swap upon credit default swap and no one knows what the tab is.
Have you see that photo from the Vietnam war of that little girl on fire from napalm? I'd say derivatives in banks are the financial equivalent of that. The question is how do we get the American public to understand that so that we can get some real regulation that keeps our bank deposits away from the napalm.
Yes I have, it's an unforgettable photo. What the financial elite are doing to all the vulnerable emind me of the photos of the Mylai massacre from the Life magazine spread in the late 60"s. Americans are under the spell of consumerism. I just don't know what it'll take to get through to them. I've always thought that until a significant segment of the population is starving there will be no revolution.
I think you are right but I also think America has the unique ability to have a revolution ever 4 yeas. Sadly big corps now seem to control both parties du eto the need for fundraising. We could do a lot to give the voice back to the people with campaign finance reform.
great question, although, I'm sure they are listening here!
oh - okay
What is too Big to Fail? Predicted by some in 1999:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEEvVd2CPlM&NR=1
great video - thanks - i copied the link - also -
Happy Thanksgiving ! ! !
How do you like this one? "The Women Who Knew" Freshman History Day Schools Dedication to Brooksley Born 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be3C_O-Btko
thanks, I've been copying all the links
great, please help to let everyone know why this happened!
Once we Succeed in Reinstating these Two Vital Acts that were both Shattered in 1999/2000, and which are both now conclusively linked by many Scholar's to the Collapse of our Financial System, I feel The OWS will have the Strong Voice and Clout on Capitol Hill it not only Desires, but Needs to move on to it's other Major Objectives such as Campaign Reform, Voters Rights, Clean Air, and so on and so on...After all, we have to start somewhere, and since your name is Occupy Wall Street, let's finish this Job first! Love the OWS!
Cool! Right back at you! Thanks. And you can also find that educational link and many others here (below) at Netfixs soon!--lol. cheers! I wish this information could get out that fast! But, finally, it is! If I may quote: Change is always hard. And the big economic interests always have an advantage. But the power of an idea whose time has come is stronger by far.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-the-gramm-leach-bliley-act-of-1999-came-up/
no pain - no gain
And that's what we are all about right! No Pain--No Gain! This has been my mission since 2008, the OWS was way overdo, but, most knew it was a coming! Go OWS, make us proud! So glad you were born!
I feel the same way. . ."way overdo." This nation has been trashed for far too long . . . "Go OWS, make us proud! So glad you were born!"
Yes, And one BIG thing at a time, the OWS is still a baby. WS reform, as the OWS name applies should be first--otherwse, they have let down the Country
I feel if you start Marching now for these two causes you won't have to wait until June to complete the job! How about adding this agenda to the WDC Protest next March?
Happy Thanksgiving all! Take care.
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thanks! I hope they do it. Fyi, I also twitted this to Ocuupy LA, SD, Oakland, Portland, Denver, SLC, Chicago, Columbus, DC, Boston, Richmond, GA, Miami, Marines, Colleges, the Other 99, and a many many others plus Russell Simmons, Ron Howard and Lady Gaga! Plus others! Let's see what happens!
I know you all are busy, but would love to hear any good or bad thoughts hear; after all, we are the OWS! Free Speech at it's best!
Time to plan the 6/16/12 worldwide march for Glass-Steagall...
HEY HEY - Good to see you. Are you just love'n all of this activity or what? There is soooooooooo much going on I am just so happy to see all of the involvement and activity.
Thanks for posting the reminder on Glass-Stegall as this is a key item and more and more people are becoming aware of just how important.
The greedy corrupt are just hating it. They are running around like ants with their hill to repair. I just love it when their ant hill gets kicked.
my thoughts exactly..but when? 6/16/12, 79th anniv of signing of Glass-Steagall? That day seems carry most weight; one that could instantly get America on same page; It's an anniversary March! You get the idea.
Many are coming to realize the facts. I believe there will be a strong showing for this march if the issue is not miraculously fixed prior to it, and right now with all of the stonewalling, a miracle is what it would take.
Hey did you hear the Kimmel joke at the White House Press Dinner?
Kidding Michelle and her fitness program as a lead-in:
Yeah I have noticed that a lot of Americans are in poor shape. I mean when you used to see a protest or hear about one - it was a march. These days though when they protest it is an Occupy.
In the middle of a room full of news Blackout supporters.
that's funny. he looked a little nervous too. I realize it will take longer than hoped; still holding on to 6/16/12, 6 mo now. Good news is that people are seeing facts and that time is on our side! It will happen
Support is stronger, I see more and more reference to Glass-Stegall every week. There have been more postings on it on this forum too. All looking for support to reinstate. Very few voices of dissent ( trying to support the status-quo ).
great. thanks for update. Latest tweet:
Jon @TheDaliyShow e.g. how Glass-Steagall goes down '12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pwjGWUrlHM Great principles don't get lost...just have see them again - JS
Mr. Smith goes to Washington - classic.
let's get focused, time is on our side now!
sounds neat, but again, you trying to tell everyone else what to do and bring focus to the issues YOU want to is not what this is about. Stop telling other people what to do, and bother to acknowledge that there are many other issues just as important which other people are not going to abandon just because you tell them to.
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Issues_%2B_Political_Platform_Items
in fact making a full pass at EVERY issue is far more important that focusing in on just one issue, because we are still just one percent competing with one percent for the attention of 98 percent.
dude this is prehaps the most important issue
one for you too my friend: If OWS has the nerve to throw 1000's of people out there with no game plan, I say, what are we doing here? I know I'm broke and have lost a month's pay trying to help out my fellow Americans! No biggie, but Get it TOGETHER OWS! Do something big now! Why? Now, your dealing with my Fellow Americans! Who are you anyway? With this FORCE--I would of had this done last month!
Thanks Partner. Happy Thanksgiving! Time goes by fast...will show the World our Backbone by knocking this out in 3 months! Then, (hopefully) we rule for the rest... After all, You can't expect to give Congress a list of 10 demands and expect it to get all done...maybe I'm wrong, but I feel first you have to learn how to play the Hill Game, we chip away at it until we get it all...
Education is the KEY, once the masses know we are going to break-up the banks and create the even playing field we had after the Great Depression until 1999--They will rise up with up! Which was, of course, before the Lobbyist spent a reported 5 billion to throw out G-S act, and a year after our CFTC Act, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000 which this new Act deregulated energy markets too. Cheers.
dude, this is only one of the top ten, its nowhere near as important as an article 5 convention or a new third political party.
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/OccupyThisWiki:About
its nowhere near as important as understanding what the true nature of a revolution is, or how one happens, or what a paradigm shift is.
Its just what YOU happen to THINK, detached from everything else, this is your EGO trip that YOU know better than the rest of us what to focus on.
you don't.
And its wrong, and pig headed for you to try to control the rest of us, tell us what to do, sheeple herd, play the guru, or imagine that you are somehow ahead of the rest of us in determining whats important.
ok tool its a forum and if you dont think fixing the economy is important information for this movement then your a fool. im not talking in the context of the most important issue in life is. your talking about paradigm shifts and shit im trying to get people to focus on the economy so you can fuck off. no one is telling you what to do you little cry baby
of course the economy is important, and of course it is far more complicated than your single pet issue.
I'm arguing about and presenting information over deregulation and glass steagle all day long. You ain't said anything i haven't heard twice.
What you are doing however is trying to tell us that you have magical guru mystical powers to divine that this of all things is what the focus should be.
And while i appreciate that its an issue near and dear to you as it is to me, you have no business make believing that you have some special case of insight by which to organize priorities for the rest of us.
You can fuck off, you most certainly ARE trying to tell us all what to do.
I'm all for this presentation- minus the presumptive ego trip, and minus your conviction that its a finished presentation- put it on the wiki and leave out the "shoulds" and "focus on this."
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Reinstate_Glass_-Steagall_Act
As important as it is to me i haven't had the time to get to the detail. You could be a part of the problem and keep trying to assert control over therest of us, or you can get to the wiki and be a part of the solution.
I'm guessing theres some other issue you want us to NOT pay attention to, otherwise you wouldn't be trying to focus on JUST YOUR PET.
snap out of it, wake up, and stop being an ego tist and a control freak. If yo u want to get this done, see how to do it by being PART of a larger movement instead of trying to tell the movement as a whole what to do.
this is our best start, period, the rest will fall into place. Just to get this done will take an Act of God. Otherwise, It's imposible to do it all--read your history books, it's all there...
no, this is you playing fucking guru and not paying attention to the rest of whats going on. you have no business telling the rest of us what to do and no business making a case that this is more important than 10 other things.
its not impossible to do it all; people like you are too lazy and dumble downed and want to sheeple herd instead of be a part of something bigger than themselves.
You have no perspective by which to make such claims and your claim is ludicrous. stop bsing, controlling, and in essence lying to the rest of us.
you are too ignorant and self absorbed to see the bigger picture. thanks for wasting everyones time.
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/Issues_%2B_Political_Platform_Items
sorry lobbyist, I'm done with you
lol. i'm not a lobbyist. I'm somebody who understands the real complexities, whos paying attention to the real issues, and who understands that we have to get to all the details. I'd imagine probably the opposite. I think whats really going on is some one of the details is what you are fighting against, so you want to keep us distracted with YOUR priority list. You don't know HOW to do it. THIS is how to do it;
http://occupythiswiki.org/wiki/OccupyThisWiki:About
your just faking it, trying to get us to focus on one of fifty details, and trying to sheeple herd and control other people, which is wrong, pig headed, self serving, and self absorbed. If you want attention to this, then you will have to allow for equal attention to EVERYTHING ELSE.
I'm genuine. anybody trying to limit or focus or sheeple herd anybody else into just one thing is probably the person whos not. What issue are you afraid we would get to otherwise?
Thats the real question,... obviously.
if we dont start picking out real issues instead of standing in a park getting everyone to look at us and we tell them the system is broken, we wont be telling people what they already know. we need to show them what has such a grip on our money supply. the country goes broke people get mad and occupy ny starts. we need to go to the root and show people why we are broke we have to scream it. you need to understand that.
How's it going out there Bud?
i agree, we need to get busy on the issues. i don't agree that it is your position or place or that you are somehow in a position or place to tell the rest of us what to do or which issues are more important than others.
an article 5 convention or the creation of a new third party are easily more important than your focus detail.
Stop trying to sheeple herd, control us, tell us what to do, and get to the wiki and get busy . stop telling people what to do and start doing the work. You ain;'t the foreman, and you ain't the priority setting apparatus.
You need to understand that. I already understand fine.
Peace. Please watch this: Rachel Maddow Show Ten Years after Deregulations, The Senator Reflects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hbezbsJ8s&feature=related
i saw it coming 2. but still, nobody ever wants to listen. Your PLAYING the guru game. I'm the one with prophetic vision.
if you look at the big picture, mine will be over within 3-6 months, then, You will rule WS--And I'll go away then..Happy Thanksgiving!
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