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Forum Post: How many of you would be willing and dedicated enough to this movement to march from NYC to Washing D.C.

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 10, 2011, 4:33 p.m. EST by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY
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Discuss. If enough people are into this idea, I have created a page for it on facebook entitled Occupy Wall Street: The March to Washington, D.C.

The march would be around 2-3 weeks long, marching between 10-12 hours a day at a pace of around 2mph. It is about 230 miles. It CAN be done.

Ages 18 and up, and only those in good health will be allowed to attend for insurance and legal reasons. We would occupy parks and public spaces along the way in which to sleep at night, as marching in the dark would not be safe. I would contact local restaurants and organizations in each place we would stop ahead of time to ask for donations of food and water and shelter, supplies, etc.

Let's show them we mean business.

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[-] 3 points by partOfTheSolution7 (51) from Chapel Hill, NC 2 years ago

People unable to walk could participate by supporting/feeding the walkers. There will need to be a lot of logistics support on the way.

[-] 1 points by ThinMan (54) 2 years ago

How are the non walkers going to get to the walkers if they're not walking to feed them?

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

drive to wherever they are and drop off supplies. simple.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I will donate my car if needed. I will need it back no later than the end of December.

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

This won't be happening until the spring...however, I could honestly use a vehicle to be able to travel and network with other groups, and if you are willing to donate your vehicle that would be amazing...Let me know!

[-] 3 points by JohnTM (25) 2 years ago

I think it is sad that true believers could not attend. There must be ideas somewhere to get us wheelchairs, a hand pulled cart, little red wagon, anything! It is understandable but hard for us folks who have the spirit but not the strong body.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

ride a horse! or a donkey! haha honestly I am sure there are people willing to donate a chair or an animal or wagon to help those in need :)

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

Read my other post on my idea of "donated shopping carts".

[-] 1 points by JohnTM (25) 2 years ago

I realize the planned date is a long time away, but the way I read your proposal was that for legal and insurance purposes the not so physically fit could not attend. But then I reasoned to myself "who is going to stop me and who will decline to help me"?

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I suppose I just mean that you need to be fully confident that you can sustain a steady pace with the rest of us to reach a destination at a goal time and date...anyone who would severely hinder us or endanger themselves should maybe support from afar, that's all.

[-] 1 points by JohnTM (25) 2 years ago

Thank you and you have my support.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

awesome :)

[-] 3 points by Scaleblade (3) from Seattle, WA 2 years ago

Hell yes. You have my support. I live on the west coast and am willing to fly out there for this. This is history in the making.

[-] 2 points by ChicagoRocks (24) from Morton Grove, IL 2 years ago

Cool. Of course, you would need to walk as flying would violate the carbon-free tenant of this movement. Better start jogging now.....

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Haha only one person suggested that, and it was quickly extinguished.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

so much love to you <3

[-] 3 points by stephenadler (118) 2 years ago

And have a Dr. King moment at the foot of the Lincoln memorial? That would be awesome if it could be pulled off..

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Fantastic idea. Please spread the word about this comment thread. :)

[-] 3 points by aswewalk (104) 2 years ago

FANTASTIC idea. We'd definitely need to aim for March or April. Caravans of cars and even many over the road truckers would help with supply drops and support. This would be magnificent.... a wonderful thing to look forward to for all and it's just around the corner. Logistics and planning would take about 4 months if you're talking about big numbers.

Obviously it would grow along the way with more and more people joining. It's a march on Washington. One quote might be: "We started this march on Washington from a great distance so we could get a real running start. We're only 5,000 strong now but we'll be picking up another 10,000 along the way. And I hear another 200,000 - 300,000 are meeting us on Capitol Hill." What would it feel like to be a congress person who spends his or her time representing the 1% when that crowd of active non-violent protesters marched on the Capitol? What would it feel like when all those folks are on their way and you're watching them on the news getting closer and closer each day?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I think they would be quite frightened, and that's the very point. As for those of you saying this march would only be possible for those in excellent shape, it is only walking. Also, driving would defeat the purpose of a "march" and would show NO dedication. Another idea I had was to bring pull wagons in case anyone is tired and needs a few miles of rest, and I'm sure people know their own limits, and would not participate unless they were fully capable.

[-] 3 points by TheGreatCitizen (5) 2 years ago

Yeah I say lets go. Its time to end the money laundering scams like Big alternative energy. I am serious think about the billions taken from the needy and given to Vulture Capitalists.

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[-] 1 points by ThinMan (54) 2 years ago

"Vulture Capitalists" I like that can I use that? I might put that on my business card.

[-] 3 points by Haitiana4Obama (20) 2 years ago

Ay Ay! I say Occupy Congress.

[-] 2 points by ddyer0617 (41) from Salisbury, MD 2 years ago

I feel its also important to see that there is no political party at fault here but it is the whole system (when not functioning properly). This all started over a decade ago when companies were leaving the US and taking their jobs with them because of government tax breaks given to them. Then it was made worse during the Bush administration (who had a democratic house and senate) and then got a little bit better before getting even worse during Obama's administration (who now has a republican house and senate). This should be a call for system reformation, make this system the way it is intended to be businesses need to fail if they go bankrupt or you just have a bankrupt company unable to hire workers.

[-] 2 points by MakeSomeSense (22) 2 years ago

It does not matter how you get to DC, JUST GET THERE, That is where this cause belongs. NOT Wall St. Not big cities across the US. IT BELONGS IN OBAMAS BACK YARD!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

THANK YOU. haha help spread the word, please, or it will fall short!!! http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 2 points by Publius (21) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

This really needs to happen. People right now are listening and they are waiting to see exactly how potent this movement is. Protesting is great, and it is the first step. But at some point, if this movement is going to translate into solutions it needs to show up at the door step of the federal government: D.C. If you come here, politicians will realize that this is a movement that demands change in the way our system works.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I know that this might be a bit premature but has anyone given any thoughts of a time frame for OWS 2012? I think if we start planning for 2012 now it would be more organized and people can plan ahead for Occupying Wall Street. I would be willing to work on a committee dedicated to OWS 2012.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

this march would take place in april or may 2012

[-] 1 points by Publius (21) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

From what I understand, the two camps in D.C. are a couple hundred strong. I'll give you a status update tomorrow.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Thank you, I would appreciate that, as the onl things I have heard or seen have been small numbers, and they have been shown to not want to be filmed and have been rude when they were... :/

[-] 1 points by Publius (21) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Sorry this took so long, but I just got home from the occupation. Two camps exist, one is a morphing of an antiwar protest that decided to stay as an occupation. It seems to be more organized, it has more veteran activists, but it also may have an agenda.

The second group is less organized and about the same in number of people. It looks to be much younger and follows the consensus model more closely than the first group. At the moment it seems the media has largely focused on the first group when discussing occupy d.c. This and other issues seem to have created a rift between the two occupations members. At the second occupation there were plenty of people taking pictures and no open hostility.

Overall you have maybe 160 people in the occupation for both camps combined. This may change on Saturday considering the second occupation is likely to attract more students to it's cause (my personal assessment).

Hope that helps.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

what kind of agenda would you say the first group has? and were they receptive to you asking questions, if you did at all? Just curious what is going on there...It's strange to me that nothing big is happening at the heart of the beast.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

it helps very much, thank you for your help!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Thank you so much. :) please find and join/promote the facebook page.

[-] 1 points by Publius (21) from Washington, DC 2 years ago

Absolutely. I'm going down to McPherson Square and Freedom Plaza tomorrow with some friends to see what is going on. I'll ask them if they are aware of the prospects of a march, and if so, see what I can do to help make this happen.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 2 points by hoot (313) 2 years ago

i'd be down

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 2 points by bootsy3000 (180) 2 years ago

Wow, audacious! Sadly I couldn't go but I'd be delighted to see it happen, and able to pitch in ten bucks.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

Every penny helps. What would help more in this case though is going to be foods like fruit, jerky, wagons and carts, etc. Keep following!!

[-] 2 points by MeAndWeThePeople (59) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

How about a march across America from sea to shining sea, from big coastal cities through middle American towns, one big continuous caravan of the people.

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

That would be the idea, and then to end up meeting in NYC, then marching to DC, and finally meeting up with everyone else who couldn't march there.

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[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

If we can get an airline to donate 7 flights to the west coast to bring all of our supporters there to the east coast that would be huge! To have an airline with so much money donating the flights would really show Wall Street we mean business!!!

[-] 2 points by Elysium22 (95) 2 years ago

DO IT TONIGHT.Pass the Jobs bill.

[-] 2 points by MindMelder (2) from Quakertown, PA 2 years ago

There are many people around the US that would love to show up to help protest in NYC. But most have no $$ to get there, since most are out of work. My suggestion is organize Buses and bring Bus loads to NYC and Washington DC. Make the buses free (via donations) or get them donated at $5 a rider. If there are 20 million out of work, I would guess getting 2-5% of those to NYC and DC would really scare the shit out of government and also make a bigger statement.

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

they should be trying to do that on their own!!!! It is something I can try to make happen while the march is going on, but I would really like to make a statement as a group, marching a long distance, showing dedication and heart, the way the militia did in the 1700's. I think it would be a huge accomplishment.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

Right on! I think to really show that we mean business and I'm talking about Wall Street business, we should dress up as the militia did way back in the 1705 days. It would show a stark reality of the way times have changed. People would really notice and with Halloween just around the corner the stores would have the costumes.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

That would be pretty awesome haha, however this will be happening in the spring, and it might be too warm?? Who knows. All ideas are considered and obviously I'm not going to be someone to tell people marching with us that they can't wear a costume! As long as nothing offensive is being done, I'm all for it.

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

If we can get local supermarkets to donate 3 to 76 shopping carts we can load our food and medical supplies for easy transport. We can string them along with some sturdy rope or have Designated Shopping Cart Pushers. Having these shopping carts would serve a dual purpose of transporting the elderly if they get tired after marching 10 miles. The supermarkets can be Pro-Active with this movement.

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[-] 2 points by KermitRoos (3) 2 years ago

Chant "Bully!!" Teddy Roosevelt took on the bankers. He was our first Progressive. Just Google TR and JP Morgan, their first White House meeting where TR told him to go to H***. This is not irrelevant, very much current. Re-produce campaign signs for TR to show Obama who should be his true inspiration. "Bully!!" will put the Repugs down on their knees since they point to him as Repug, but forget that he left the party, and even so, the party then stood for what Dems now stand for (LBJ cleansed the Dems from the Dixiecrats in the 60's, when they ran over to the Repug party).

"Theodore Roosevelt believed America's greatest evil was too much power in the hands of corporate America. Find out what happened when he took on J.P. Morgan, the nation's most powerful financier.­" - History Channel website below.

http://www­.history.c­om/videos/­theodore-r­oosevelt-v­s-corporat­e-america#­theodore-r­oosevelt-v­s-corporat­e-america

http://www­.washingto­npost.com/­wp-dyn/con­tent/artic­le/2010/04­/02/AR2010­040201523.­html

Bully!!

[-] 2 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I had a buddy that worked for Chase Bank and he told me that in the lunch room they raised the price of the pop from $1.50 to $1.89....WOW! Talk about corporate greed!!!

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I need to start getting representatives and at least a head count of supporters or else this will go nowhere, and there are only a matter of months for planning. Please go join the facebook page, as much as I know most of us despise facebook, it is a necessary evil! Just like voting.

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 2 points by ChicagoRocks (24) from Morton Grove, IL 2 years ago

Only as long as it's a carbon free march. No vegetables, fruit or meat, as those all contain carbon. No carbonated water, either. Just good ole fashion H2O. We could do a water fast while marching - to show we're not tethered to the world system of food.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

Water would be best and also there are so many fire hydrants out there to keep us in constant supply to replenish our needs.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

We wouldn't last without complex carbs and natural sugars and protein. 3 weeks without real food would kill some people and I do not agree with that!

[-] 1 points by VerbotenerGott (5) from Syracuse, NY 2 years ago

I concur! Food is absolutely essential.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Also, the carbon emitted from our bodies while we breathe and move about would then be a problem if you wanted a carbon-free movement haha

[-] 2 points by ThinMan (54) 2 years ago

how many of you would be up for buying an OccupyWallStreet T-Shirt?

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I might have OWS buttons. I'm waiting for a reply from my sister-n-law. She has a button making machine.

[-] 1 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

I am. Got any? Send on the link for me to look at what u have. I was thinking of creating one myself at one of the T-shirt sites online but if u can save me the time I might pay u.

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Everyone please join the page on fb!!! There are over 500,000 people this could reach if it gets on there, and that is only counting the "occupy" pages that have followers. Look up "Occupy Wall Street: The March To Washington, D.C." and spread the word. :)

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[-] 2 points by geminijlw (176) from Mechanicsburg, PA 2 years ago

I cannot walk becaue of my back, but I will wait for you there, let me know when. I always knew we would have to march on Washington sometime during this OWS movement. Keep it up, we are with you.

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[-] 2 points by rdrdr4life (4) 2 years ago

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[-] 2 points by SocialDem16 (83) 2 years ago

Good idea and I would be willing to try it out!

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[-] 1 points by skyways4u (6) 2 years ago

T-h-e-y try SOO HARD to infected The MESSAGE by planting riots or out of hands bandits/pot-smokers individuals to protesters Peaceful gathering. I SOO HOPE, that that puppet-mastered trick for Media and Sleeping mass-Majority will fell, and more and more people join the Marsh.

I support Mission of Awakening and Global economy changing for better future of our Planet and our children, BUT, really, - ANONYMOUSLY its will NOT Working.

Lets get REAL, and gather not just feed-up shouts, but Real Platform for stepping World into NEW Direction of Equality and Peace.

To be able to transfer from chaos of Re-volution to productive E-volution we need to FIND SOLUTION to END Hunger, Human trafficking, Power abuse from Social leaders and Media , dirty money laundry from narco- war- oil global net, abuse of Nature sources and so on.

I am SOO ON - but without Leadership its seems impossible.

[-] 1 points by vibronix (187) 2 years ago

DO IT! I wish i could be there to organize such a march. Tomorrow is a good day for starting.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

check out the facebook page, and spread the word. the link is floating around all through the thread. Thanks for your support!

[-] 1 points by vibronix (187) 2 years ago

This fuking hippies only dream of traveling but doing the real thing? NO FUKIN way. Here you ahve a good proposition for a free ride on your onw shoes from new york to DC and nobody goes for it... Oh ye i see, this is modern hippies, they all travel on the fukin internet

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

tell 'em!

[-] 1 points by PastDM (1) 2 years ago

I have not had a chance to read through all the comments yet, but I wonder if you have considered - Why not make this a multi-prong approach. Instead of just having one line of march from NYC (north) why not have marchers coming from the South (Atlanta?) and West? (St. Louis?) as well. Make it clear that the 99% come from all corners of the country.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I have been entertaining that idea, as my friend rose is organizing the masses from the west coast. I would need some help to get the south involved too but that would be amazing, and then the police wouldn't be able to focus on just one group. Thank you and if you have any way of helping let me know and please like the facebook page to stay updated!!

[-] 1 points by Windsofchange (1044) 2 years ago

This is a great idea! However, keep in mind the weather will be getting cold soon so it needs to be done within the month or wait until Spring 2012.

Also, you can have protestors in other major cities like Philly, Boston, Baltimore,etc. do their version of the march and met up in D.C. for one big March or event. I will be checking out your website and spreading the word. Great Idea once again!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Thank you, and I am aiming for april/may 2012

[-] 1 points by Wonderer (16) 2 years ago

yep. and i'd come in from chicago.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc Join the page, the only way this will happen is if enough people commit to it, so spread the word to your die-hard political hiking friends haha

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

Im already in the DCmetro area,but I suggest Marching down 95.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

thank you :)

[-] 1 points by ddyer0617 (41) from Salisbury, MD 2 years ago

Those unable to get to D.C can occupy federal government buildings all across the U.S. I don't understand how some states can succeed in this economy yet the entire federal government have to vote on possible shut downs from month to month. The federal government should be taking their own pay cuts to get a feel for what its like in the real world and should also be sitting in the same damn room until this is all figured out. People should be in front of the White House, The Capital, and every single federal building in the U.S.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Agreed! Haha I am glad there is one more person in here that feels me on this. Wall Street is a place where the greed and corruption manifests and grows, but it is not where it started.

[-] 1 points by gekko (75) 2 years ago

how about you guys just drive, fly and take busses?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Because that doesn't make a statement like marching does. Although I DO encourage people to start flying and taking trains or buses to Washington, because that's where we need to be.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I posted it on the page for the march. Thank you, and I agree. :)

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 1 points by gekko (75) 2 years ago

thanks for that.. you have my support!!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

awesome :) please spread the word, and the link to the page!!!

[-] 1 points by ddyer0617 (41) from Salisbury, MD 2 years ago

I cannot fault businesses going through a hard time taking a government handout because they were facing the end but it wasn't the governments place to be offering these handouts from our social security and from our medicare and from all of our tax dollars while the debt in D.C. was piling up. I'm almost disgusted that the same politicians that were screwing this country over on a mass scale is now throwing the business partners they made under the bus. The problem is with these elected officials who have forgotten their place as those who speak for the people. I am beginning to see that the nostalgic party lines of republican and democrat should no longer exist. We have too many different people groups in this country and too many different opinions as a result. The main problem is that politics have become a "scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" game. Politicians receive campaign funds from the wealthy and from businesses and then politicians give them money and tax breaks and so on afterwards. What happened to the self-sufficiency of this once great nation?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Well said.

[-] 1 points by Shamus27 (84) 2 years ago

I would, it just depends when you plan to do it.

If you plan it far enough in advance for people to make arrangements to come we might get a better turn out.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

It is planned for either april/may 2012 http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 1 points by Shamus27 (84) 2 years ago

Thanks,

Where can I get all he details?

I should be able to do that easy enough!!!!!!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by ddyer0617 (41) from Salisbury, MD 2 years ago

The list of demands should be very simple: let capitalism run its course on businesses closing (maybe it will teach companies to keep jobs in the US), give tax credit to businesses who keep jobs in the US and discontinue tax breaks and maybe even impose tax penalties to companies that move jobs overseas, keeps politicians out of businesses because well its none of their damn business, and allow the people to determine not just people in office but also bills that affect the mass number of people on a whole scale (healthcare reform, social security, which class gets taxed, etc) we let this minority of people we elect decide what is to happen with our policies and they ran it directly into the shitter.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Agreed. the one being proposed is accurate, but unrealistic.

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 2 years ago

Love the idea, but I'm not sure it is truly feasible. Depending on the number of people a movement of that distance is truly a logistical nightmare.

I would be willing to donate to ensure that people had travel monies and food along the voyage, but I'd need to know that a substantial number were going to turn out and actually complete the trek.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Agreed, like I said, I don't even want to start the planning process until at least 50 people are committed to going. So far I actually have that amount, but many are from the west coast, and are willing to make the trip out to join. I'm being very cautious, as I know a small group of people is more vulnerable to corrupt law enforcement.

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 2 years ago

My suggestion is either create a facebook page or try to requisition the help of people to create a site that can fuel this movement.

I personally cannot join, even if I wanted to. Football ruined my knees and that would be quite the trip. But I would gladly help support the trip.

If you could get several hundred people -- that would really be something.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

we are currently 39 strong haha! http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 2 years ago

Good. Find me on facebook. Same name - add me as a friend. I would gladly participate in any way I can. I just can't make the march.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Can't find you! Just "like" the page and I will add you :)

[-] 1 points by gtyper (477) from San Antonio, TX 2 years ago

Done. Sorry, I didn't realize that I had shortened my first name to an initial. Last name Typer.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

awesome, thank you :)

[-] 1 points by ddyer0617 (41) from Salisbury, MD 2 years ago

March from all over gathering more from each city all they way to the root of the problem...or just gather a bunch of people and occupy Washington...either way this is where it should've started in the first place and this is definitely where the peoples' voices need to be heard

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Thank you very much, I agree. :)

[-] 1 points by mustwegetviolent666 (10) 2 years ago

Without large numbers it is pointless!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

exactly, which is why I'm hoping to network enough to get other groups to join us along the way, like philly and baltimore, etc.

[-] 1 points by Anonymous1 (1) 2 years ago

Wait I thought you all did have insurance?

[-] 1 points by kindofblue (1) 2 years ago

I believe that we need to organize a massive march on DC, like the march of 1963 or the million man march. Occupy DC is a good start, but in order to organize this we need to coordinate representatives from across the nation to descend on the Mall on the same date - "Occupy the Mall."

A group could physically walk, but to make this big enough, we will need buses, trains, planes, whatever. We need hundreds of thousands to millions, not mere hundreds.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Agreed. But if you guys don't all get involved in showing me what kind of numbers we actually have, then it will never work! The numbers need to come first, then planning, and then the action.

[-] 1 points by Mariannka (63) 2 years ago

I am amased at how Occupy works. Would like to have your input on the movement to understand it better by answering 10 questions. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Q3NF7QB Please, take some time for it and I am happy to share the results. Thank you!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

The survey doesn't work properly.

[-] 1 points by Mariannka (63) 2 years ago

Thanks, I go back to it to see what coudl be goign wrong. Appreciate your time. M.-

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[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

What?

[-] 0 points by FayeKaneHomelessBain (1) from Annandale, VA 2 years ago

I mean that the washington post said the 'puglicans hired an entire PR firm in Alexandria VA to plant disinformation and propaganda on the internet.

Unlike the repiglicans, I believe the four wisest words ever spoken:

"I could be wrong".

But I'm also cursed by god to be extremely perceptive, and the fact that you want us all to just politely march on down the highway for no reason when we're doing so well, with no supplies or organization (and several other things you've said) leads me to conclude that you're one of THEM.

If so, it won't work.

If not, It STILL won't work.

So drop it.

-faye kane homeless brain

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Haha I am not one of "them", and this would not in any way be disorganized. I am an intelligent and articulate young woman and I know how these things work. The reason for my posts are simply to gain opinions and ideas, and get an idea of how many people would support this. There are plenty. It will not move forward however without enough people committed. And it is not for "no reason". One person in this thread suggested that it be explained as moving from one location to another, the same way the group in liberty square moved to washington park. Please read everything before you judge a movement. Thank you.

[-] 1 points by tbtn10242011 (7) 2 years ago

What has happened to us? What does America represent to the millions of Americans who find themselves unemployed? Why, in the face of staggering unemployment, are so many Americans holding on to a bootstrap mentality? Herman Cain says, Stop protesting and get to work! He clearly was born with a silver shoe in his mouth.

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[-] 1 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

That would be so cool.

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[-] 1 points by SkidMarkPanda (4) 2 years ago

I think this is an amazing idea. I would be a a part of it.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by SkidMarkPanda (4) 2 years ago

My only question is, what paths will we be taking to get there? it is illegal (and dangerous) to march on most highways, and back roads to Washington, D.C may not exist.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I have a friend who is getting me an accurate topographical map, and I will be studying it relentlessly and figuring out which roads and paths we can take. If there is private property we may have to cross, I will contact the owners ahead of time.

[-] 1 points by Toddtjs (187) 2 years ago

Good concept and lots of press.

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[-] 1 points by annecurrey (30) 2 years ago

We don't want or need help from corporations. They are the problem. We don't want Hollywood spoiled brats thirsting for a cause to join us. We don't want donations from chain stores, we don't want donations from the wealthy. Get that permit and take over Lafayette Park!

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[-] 1 points by annecurrey (30) 2 years ago

I would!!!!! If we could march on the White House also and demand an end to the wars, the ultimate in corporate greed!

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[-] 1 points by carterchas (7) 2 years ago

I'm in Houston; I would love to participate.

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[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

My sister-n-law has a button making machine. Wearing a button is a great way to show your support and enforce your cause. Wearing a OWS button would be great! I will email her to see if she would be willing to make buttons. Any idea how many buttons will need for this?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I would be working off of donations, as there is no money invested in this yet, so if she is willing to donate a bunch of them that would be great! Maybe they could say "OWS: MARCH FOR JUSTICE"? I think around 500 would be plenty to start...If this is actually possible, please contact me privately and I will send an address!

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

My sister-n-law emailed me with bad news. She sold her button making machine 8 years ago on eBay and got less then half the price she was asking for! Too bad because she said she could easily make 55 buttons a day, maybe 58 if she really pushed herself.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by mserfas (652) from Ashland, PA 2 years ago

How would you avoid having every town from NYC to Washington take their own crack at arresting people for sleeping in a park, or by the side of the road, etc.? You speak as if homelessness were a right in this country.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

The checkpoints will be set ahead of time, and if we need a permit for the night, then we will get one. I'm going to do everything in my power to have this be as drama-free as possible. If something DOES happen, there will be cameras rolling, and I know WE won't be the ones doing anything illegal.

[-] 1 points by mreynolds (26) 2 years ago

It CAN be done- no person with an occupation though, e.g. has a job, is looking for a job, is a student- would spend 2-3 weeks marching 10-12 hours a day. Actually even if they didn't....

Maybe if you can get Forrest Gump to lead it.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Apathy is contagious.

[-] 1 points by steve005 (256) from Cincinnati, OH 2 years ago

lol, what would we be occupying?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

parks and public spaces along the way. and eventually, D.C.

[-] 1 points by mreynolds (26) 2 years ago

the unions would beat you bloody with aluminum bats, stay away from Washington and Obama

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

they wont touch us. if they do, we will have ways of protecting ourselves and our rights.

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

Four month extension granted to OccupyDC . We AreThere !

[-] 1 points by KermitRoos (3) 2 years ago

Chant "Bully!!" Teddy Roosevelt took on the bankers. He was our first Progressive. Just Google TR and JP Morgan, their first White House meeting where TR told him to go to H***. This is not irrelevant, very much current. Re-produce campaign signs for TR to show Obama who should be his true inspiration. "Bully!!" will put the Repugs down on their knees since they point to him as Repug, but forget that he left the party, and even so, the party then stood for what Dems now stand for (LBJ cleansed the Dems from the Dixiecrats in the 60's, when they ran over to the Repug party).

"Theodore Roosevelt believed America's greatest evil was too much power in the hands of corporate America. Find out what happened when he took on J.P. Morgan, the nation's most powerful financier.­" - History Channel website below.

http://www­.history.c­om/videos/­theodore-r­oosevelt-v­s-corporat­e-america#­theodore-r­oosevelt-v­s-corporat­e-america

http://www­.washingto­npost.com/­wp-dyn/con­tent/artic­le/2010/04­/02/AR2010­040201523.­html

Bully!!

[-] 1 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

I am a TR and FDR fan for those very reasons you stated. BULLY!

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[-] 1 points by RonPaulFlixdotcom (73) from Kingsville, TX 2 years ago

I marched from DC to Minnesota in the cause for liberty. Lets get walking! Occupy America!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

yes. <3

[-] 1 points by RonPaulFlixdotcom (73) from Kingsville, TX 2 years ago

from the revolution march on DC in 2008 to the RALLY for the Republic. I have and will always stand with Liberty!

Let's March, but we have to have a specific issue/cause to make it effective.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 2 points by RonPaulFlixdotcom (73) from Kingsville, TX 2 years ago

Looks like I maybe headed for NY! Think I'll have to drive from TX as now that's a long walk! Count me in!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

awesome! bring friends :)

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by Marisa (4) 2 years ago

This would be toughr forpeople then you think. Please consult with some peoplevwho havebeither planned and/or participated in a walk like the Breast Cancer 3 Day which is approximately 60 miles. From my own experience I made it only 2 of the three days despite extensive training due to GINORMOUS blisters which took about 6 weeks to completely heal. Needless to say I know there were far worse ailments suffered during the 3 day then mine.

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

We would have rest time though and obviously medical supplies. Moving around for 10 hours a day is like a basic work day for most people, assuming they have ever worked. It should not be an issue.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

If you have a dog or a horse medical supplies can be carried by the animals to help the humans.

[-] 1 points by Marisa (4) 2 years ago

Love your opimism. We had rest stops, they had nurses and medical staff. I had trained for 4 months... Used two pairs of shoes that as recommended had been fitted by running experts. wore moisture wicking socks, hydrated and ate appropriate nutritive snacks. ...there are recommendations for how often to drnk water versus a drink like Gatorade, how often to snack etc. What you are talking about requires endurance not just will. I would also recommend becoming familiar with a product called body glide for chaffing. But hey it should not be an issue.

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that a healthy and fairly fit human being would not be able to walk for 10 hours a day, then sleep, and do it again the next, for 2 weeks. A normal work day is 8 hours and I know plenty of people who have done far worse things for longer hours every day of the week for YEARS, and they have no insane blisters or health issues...We are not asking everyone and their brother to do this, we asking for a very dedicated and confident group who can do the equivalent of what a warehouse worker does for 8-12 hours a day.

[-] 2 points by Owen (28) 2 years ago

Having done a week-long hike before, I can safely say that "things come up". You just never know exactly what it's going to be next.

You can do what you're saying, you just might want to be careful not to bank too much on your time estimate. Might be good to discuss with somebody who has done some long-distance hiking. 20 miles a day on average is a pretty brisk pace for hiking with a load, even on flat-ish land.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

We can get the sporting goods stores to donate hiking boots and walking shoes. L.L.Bean and Nike are good. If your in pretty good shape and have good walking shoes or hiking boots on your feet it should be no problem. We can make this happen!

[-] 1 points by Marisa (4) 2 years ago

Wow I can only imagine how you would react to unfriendly advice, Relax. I for one will look forward to your tales of the walk. You may be singing a different tune when your body begins to respond to the intake of fluids and energy bars and you have 2 miles to go before the next potty break. Good Luck,

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Haha I have been homeless and have walked miles upon miles without a toilet in sight! I have also never owned a vehicle, and know my limits and I am confident that whoever joins will feel the same way, that is all I mean.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I would wrap my feet in Saran wrap to stop the blisters but a buddy of mine from Pottery class told me about Body Glide and my feet are blister free

[-] 1 points by Marisa (4) 2 years ago

Your buddy is a wise soul Tree Head... Saran is a bad call your skin needs to be a le to breathe. :-)

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

So true...when I was trying to lose weight I would wrap my stomach with Saran wrap and after the second role I knew it was too much and too tight and had to work really fast to get it off...I thought I was gonna pass out! It was then that my buddy from pottery class told me about Body Glide.

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I will march. I will march with a very large tree stump on my head to show Wall Street that I am mad. After I have been marching for at least 22 miles I will light the tree stump to show my flaming hot anger at Wall Street. I think other tree stumps on your head will help. I will have to stop at a 7-11 on the way to get a slurpy but I will not take off the tree stump on my head.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Whatever floats your boat, I suppose......

?

[-] 1 points by TreeHead (18) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

A tree stump is made of wood. Wall Street has taken over that wood to keep the wood to themselves and not share it with others. Burning the tree stump made of wood shows my anger at Wall Street

[-] 1 points by leesang82 (32) 2 years ago

I totally agree.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-wall-st-occupy-dc/

If I wasn't heading to vacation soon, I'd be all for this.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

It wont be happening until the spring or the fall right before election day.

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 2 years ago

Or, we could DRIVE from NYC to DC in one long PARADE/CONVOY. And decorate our cars and vans with streamers and messages. That would be quicker. And kind-a cool.

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Quick and easy is not the point. I refuse to support oil companies along the way that is the point...think of the money big gas companies would make off of a huge parade of cars and V8 engines.

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 2 years ago

If I use my credit card to buy my gas... then that would be supporting BOTH the oil companies AND the banks. Damn. So, where do I park my RV? And then how do I get back to my RV when the DC rally is over? Shit. I'm not joking here. Maybe I could take the train back to NYC when the DC rally is over. But, honestly, where are people parking their cars, vans and RV's?

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 2 years ago

If I use my credit card to buy my gas... then that would be supporting BOTH the oil companies AND the banks. Damn. So, where do I park my RV? And then how do I get back to my RV when the DC rally is over? Shit. I'm not joking here. Maybe I could take the train back to NYC when the DC rally is over. But, honestly, where are people parking their cars, vans and RV's?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

The other person helping me brainstorm this whole thing live in Seattle. She has agreed to organize a mass of people flying and taking trains and/or buses to the east coast, to meet in NYC and participate in the march, or simply just to go to washington and meet us there. If people want to drive a vehicle from wherever they are, I can supply a list of locations where parking is free and legal in my own area, and I'm sure others can do the same to help.

[-] 1 points by patriot4change (818) 2 years ago

Cool. Thanks. I like the DC protest idea.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
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[-] 1 points by jjrousseau714 (59) 2 years ago

Stiglitz and Krugman know the way

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

yes.

[-] 1 points by occupycommunity (119) from Rockville, MD 2 years ago

I think that marching south will be necessary as it gets colder. http://www.occupycommunity.org http://occupywallst.org/forum/10-goals-for-occupy-wall-street/

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by seaglass (671) from Brigantine, NJ 2 years ago

I like the idea , make this into a Movement on the move!

[-] 1 points by angiemiah (1) from Dallas, TX 2 years ago

Oh I wish I could I would do this in a heartbeat but I cant for medical reasons. But you kids push on .... your fight is worthy. I am going to join the Dallas group at the next protest.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by makmak (57) 2 years ago

How long would this take?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

around 2-3 weeks. depends on our pace.

[-] 1 points by ThinMan (54) 2 years ago

My Birkenstocks wouldn't survive the march

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

go barefoot like a true dirty communist hippy.

[-] 1 points by ThinMan (54) 2 years ago

Hey I'm not a communist. I'm free man and or dude...

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

All shoes welcome haha

[-] 1 points by Flsupport (578) 2 years ago

I think the idea is great. But I have said before this will have to be a young people's movement if it is going to really succeed.

[-] 1 points by Idaltu (662) 2 years ago

I like the idea. Walking will keep the news media focused on OWS. And you know a lot will happen along the way...Great Idea!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by riethc (1149) 2 years ago

Do you have a good walking route?

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

It would take lots of planning, and like many said before, would most likely take place in the spring. I want this to happen before the next election. The walking route will be faster and less taxing on us if we take short cuts, so simply mapquesting it wont help. I will be studying maps for smaller private roads and such.

[-] 1 points by beardy (282) 2 years ago

Can't we get acorn to just round up some busses to drive us from NYC to DC?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Sure, if you want to seem like the lazy hippies they think we are!

[-] 1 points by rdrdr4life (4) 2 years ago

I am ready to march!

Jason C. Galvez jasoncgalvez@gmail.com

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by dabocx (24) from McAllen, TX 2 years ago

Marching this will kill most people. you have to be in killer shape to do this. Maybe biking it would be better?

[-] 2 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

Biking would be tough but possible...

A large caravan of cars blocking and slowly rolling down the highways spreading the message would be more feasible and something just about every one could get involved with.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Maybe along side of the marching group, but I want to make a statement of strength. They didn't have cars in the 1700's. They marched for DAYS, and that's what gave each side it's own feeling of anticipation of what was to come when a battle was about to happen. This is no battle, but I want this to become something that will be followed slowly and accurately by the media and make awareness of this movement. Once in washington, we will join whoever decided to take the bus or drive instead.

[-] 2 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I love the idea but they didn't live on Mc Donald's in the 1700's. lol

It's not easy to hike that distance. I am a very experienced backpacker who has spent months hiking in Colorado and other Western states. I know from experience what it would take to make that hike. One gallon of water weighs over 8lbs. Add in blankets, tents, food... I'm not saying don't do it, just be sure you can before you attempt it.

I do like your idea of hiking alongside cars or a caravan. This makes it a lot more possible.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

And also a few childrens pull wagons can carry heavier things like water and camping supplies, or even generators. The route I will be planning will include as few inclines as possible haha

[-] 1 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

haha... I can probably get you topographical maps but one thing i learned about them years ago, they are usually wrong ! Anyway, wagons would help a lot. Anything that can take the load off of you will make the trip easier. Just don't load up the wagon to much.

I had another idea, more of a comical one that would probably piss off the elite. Pack goats. They can carry 50# easy and eat anything. I personally would find it very amusing to see a heard of them show up with some one at the D.C protests. Wonder what Fox News would say about that ? lol =)

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

You are amazing. <3 Haha now we have to find goats!

[-] 1 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

lol =)

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

lol, right on...

If you get enough people, I might try and join you all. Are you planning on every one walking or are you going to incorporate cars into it as well ?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

If people want to drive along side then awesome, but I will personally be walking, and I would love to see a large group of us doing so. This needs to be a demonstration of heart.

[-] 1 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

I have your FB page bookmarked. What ever you all decide to do, i will try and get in on it. I'm in Chicago but a trip to NY and then D.C wouldn't be out of the question. Have to pull some strings and get a few things taken care of but i could take some time to make this march.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I am aiming for april/may, I think.

[-] 1 points by ThinMan (54) 2 years ago

That's a lot of effort why don't you just go get a job instead? Just thinking. I'm sure the New-yorkers would appreciate you getting out of there.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I'm sure americans would appreciate corporate funding to be removed from election campaigns, but I don't see that happening either. Go troll someone else.

[-] 1 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

For any one seriously considering this... Put 30# of weight in a backpack and go walk 10 miles. should take about 3 1/2 hours. If you make it you might be capable of making this trip. If you struggle in the slightest bit, you will drop out in the first 2 or 3 days.

I like this idea but it would work better if you drive a few miles and find some where to camp. I'm telling you all, most people can not make a trip like this.

[-] 1 points by stephanierose (1) 2 years ago

fantastic idea, a spring march would be wonderful. these protests should not fall apart - people need to understand that you can leave the protest and come back. even an hour each day, dont be afraid to join when you can. it is not necessary for all to sleep in our respective cities, we all understand that many of us do have jobs and families to support. join when you can, do an hour of yoga at the protest, make it your "gym" hour or your "lunch" hour. Bring a book - study there! Just be there when you can!

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[-] 1 points by ChicagoRocks (24) from Morton Grove, IL 2 years ago

Good idea.

Except, let's not ask for donations for food and shelter. Let's pay our own way!!! We can sleep in the open air. AND PARTY.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Haha, I agree with sleeping in the open air, I meant shelter as in tarps and tents, etc. And donations would be needed, as good hearty meals would be needed to keep enough energy to make a hike like this. Fruit, vegetables, starchy foods rich in carbs, etc...good bread and plenty of water...These things can get expensive!

[-] 1 points by ChicagoRocks (24) from Morton Grove, IL 2 years ago

Your comment was understood. We can backpack with tents, and buy our food from vendors along the way, or bring our own fruit and jerky.

I want to exercise personal freedom and responsibility, not accept handouts.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

well the donations would be gladly accepted, the same way they are in liberty square in zucotti park...people who have to run businesses to make a living but cannot join in the protest reallt only have one way of helping, and if thats sending us a bushel of apples or sending us bags of quarters to do laundry along the way or to buy soap to bathe with, then I'm fine with that.

[-] 1 points by ChicagoRocks (24) from Morton Grove, IL 2 years ago

Personally, I would like to see a donation-free march. Everyone can bring enough money for food and supplies. Five dollar bills can be exchanged for quarters in the laundromat.

We can encourage the good ole entrepreurial spirit by asking vendors to set up along the way, from whom we can buy. Get some competition going.

No government support. No charity. That's what we're all about.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

The group in Liberty square has accepted donations of fruit and pizza from independent pizza shops, and other things like medical supplies from small clinics...I don't think there's anything wrong with accepting donations, as long as they aren't from big companies.

[-] 1 points by tr289 (916) from Chicago, IL 2 years ago

Most people will not make it ! Trust me, I'm a backpacker and a hike like that would require people who have made long distance hikes in the past. It's not something you can just do... Unless you want it to take a couple years. lol

It's a great idea but if you got 10,000 to attempt it, 10 might make it. lol

[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I don't care if we dwindle along the way, because chances are, we will pick up small groups as we go....even if the small group that could make the whole trip was all that was left, it would make a statement none the less.

[-] 1 points by mattthecapitalist (157) 2 years ago

As long as you allow individuals who value their jobs to travel unhindered on the roads... good luck.

[-] 1 points by FUCKTHENWO (280) from RIVERDALE, MD 2 years ago

done deal

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by AN0NYM0US (640) 2 years ago

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME AND POWERFUL! I think it would be best to do it in Spring. Show that you can handle a harsh winter, then, like a bear from hibernation, you march down the country.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by gawdoftruth (3698) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

i think thats a better idea than staying centered in one city.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

My thoughts exactly. And I haven't heard anyone else suggest this idea yet. My friend Rose lives in seattle and said the movement there is falling apart. This need to be centralized and have a goal in mind. People could be brought from the west coast and middle america to the coast and march with us. I think something like this would also spark media interest. They would be forced to stop ignoring us.

[-] 1 points by Siobhan1953 (1) 2 years ago

Most people do not have the time to physically march on Washington. Mobilize and bring the people to Washington on buses.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

the point is to march. that's a statement. Not paying for hundreds of gallons of gasoline....

[-] 0 points by PeoplehaveDNA (305) 2 years ago

No stick with the occupy you can do the marching as the second wave. But for now occupy everything.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

it won't be happening until spring. Right now I am just trying to organize groups willing to do it. There is plentyyy of time. :)

[-] 0 points by eric1 (152) from Corona, CA 2 years ago

I don't believe marches of this sort are effective. You would benefit more from marching into your Congressional representative's office or into the offices of those Congresspeople who are members of the House and Senate Banking Committees. Marches of the nature proposed require time, ENERGY and MONEY. Use these resources WISELY. My advice is to stay put in the Wall Street district. That is the seat of financial power in this nation and the ROOT PLACE of the problem.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

It doesn't matter if that is where the issue is, the people there aren't the ones who make changes in policies...I agree that these resources should be used wisely, and all opinions are taken into consideration, but I think staying put is no longer an option. It is just confusing people, and making them think we are just there to annoy them. We say we want change, but sitting in a park meditating wont solve anything... :/

[-] 2 points by eric1 (152) from Corona, CA 2 years ago

Well you make a good point shad. Although having people in that park is now drawing media attention and allows prominent people to address the group. This is valuable. As per additional protesting in the Wall Street area, I think it would be wise to split up into smaller groups targetting different Fed Reserve member banks because this will force the police to spread their manpower.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I agree, mostly....At the same time, I would rather have a large group stay there and maybe have only 100 people join this march, as I want the 34,000 NYPD officers to stay where they are and not bother us on our way hahaha

[-] 0 points by FayeKaneHomelessBain (1) from Annandale, VA 2 years ago

Forget it, paid repiglican human garbage.

We're not walking out of here.

YOU are.

--faye kane, homeless brain

[-] 0 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 2 years ago

I think that's good and then you should go further south because its going to get cold. Like go to New Orleans after DC

[-] 0 points by tx8370 (8) 2 years ago

And "Demands" will get you nowhere. When you demand nobody will want to hear you, all they will want to do is to shut you down.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Demands should be fine, so long as there are not 20 of them. The list that has been compiled is 100% right but unrealistic.

[-] 0 points by tx8370 (8) 2 years ago

You think that they are taking you seriously when they are not. In the eyes of many Americans you are the lunatic fringe who are unwilling to work, pay taxes, and ask for handouts. You remind many of the 60s and 70s demonstrations that didn't work. Go ahead and march to Washington D.C., then the Feds will use the Patriot Act against you and beat you and put you all in jail. They won't need a reason, you are reason enough.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Then you are against us. :) Bye, now. We know what we are and what we are NOT. I have worked 16 hour shifts 6 days a week, and I have been removed from schools because the federal government requires me to account for my father's excessive income that I have never seen a dime of because he is abusive, and I can't AFFORD to stay in school because they think he is supporting me...I have been homeless. Hungry. I have enough reason ALONE to march down there but there are many MANY more people with MUCH worse things happening to them. I refuse to back down, and people like you are what make this movement look bad, not the people participating in it.

[-] 0 points by joewealthyhaha (152) 2 years ago

great idea. march two hundred miles, then you will all be in the hospital or worse. but at least we wont have to hear or see you anymore. please please march!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

please please troll elsewhere! :D we aren't going to be in any hospitals, you moron. any healthy person should be able to walk around at a calm pace for 10 hours a day.

[-] 1 points by joewealthyhaha (152) 2 years ago

where will you go to the bathroom? please walk 250 miles, it will help thin the herd of the less intelligent underachievers in our society. you are losers, all of you.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I think the best place to go to the bathroom at this point would be on the keyboards of all you trolls just calling us losers without knowing what we stand for. You're already typing shit, why not make it literal.

[-] 1 points by joewealthyhaha (152) 2 years ago

Oswego? do you have electricity there yet? indoor plumbing? dentists?

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Haha do some research, trolly. There's a competitive state university here (SUNY Oswego), and a massive nuclear plant, plus the river and being directly on Lake Ontario brings tons of tourism for fishing and boating in the summer and fall. Unfortunately we have a corrupt group of assholes running things in this city as well, so I keep up on my politics. Go crawl back into your cave. <3

[-] 0 points by KermitRoos (3) 2 years ago

"Bully!" Put that mustachioed, toothy, TRoosevelt face on those posters to tell the bankers where they should really go! It's been a hundred years now, people, yet we've let banks slowly come back to control our lives again. TR's cousin, FDR, saved us for another generation, but now even his programs are coming under attack. Sure TR and FDR were themselves rich, but they devoted their lives (read public service ala JFK!) to saving America's middle-class and the downtrodden. Now, the banks and Repubs want to bring us back to the robber baron era - no food safety, no environmental safeguards, no OSHA, no social safety networks.

[-] 0 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 0 points by jackass11 (0) 2 years ago

You should all march..heres my reasoning... 1. your most likely overweight. 2. you most likely dont have a job. so youll have plenty of time to march. 3. chances are the march will kill you and then everyone wins.

This entire movement is a giant example of people getting a little knowledge in there econ 101 class and getting pissed about it. You people are the same people that voted for obama to begin with..it lunacy. Its incredible what people in this country do. Obama is doing everything that he said he was going to do, yet people are shocked.

Prime example of why half this country shouldn't vote.

Tell me. How many of you can name the first 5 amendments off the top of your head. If you cant how the hell can you tell me that you can make any decision at all for the good of the country.

[-] 3 points by MiMi1026 (937) from Springfield, VA 2 years ago

My fellow Americans..if you do not have the education and intelligence that ^^^ has aqquired. Then you should not be voting. Even though the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1964...you still don't have the intelligence to pull that lever(sarcasm)

The system is rigged. The two party system no longer SUSTAINS,nor Represents WeThePeople. We are the 99%. The under represneted. Taking it To The Streets!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Also, Obama is a massive snake and a liar who has made promises and broken, them such as the issue with the feds trying to shut down medical marijuana dispensaries right now when he promised this would be called off back in 2009, I believe it was? Get educated on all grounds before you run your mouth, please.

[-] 1 points by synonymous (161) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Yeah...too bad you cant kill all those bastards that don't agree with you... "By the People" and "for the People" mean "all the People, even the jackasses" Look at all the opinions on these forums and anywhere else one can type in comments on the interweb... this is an experiment in the middle of its learning curve... Hopefully we as a country will all realize that with rights come many responsibilities....

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I didn't vote at ALL and especially not for Obama. I am aware that corporations buy the votes they need to get whoever they want in office. Please take your negativity elsewhere. No one needs to die except for the weathered bunch of old men in congress who have no idea what they are doing.

[-] 0 points by earthwarrior80 (9) 2 years ago

Wouldn't marching from one city to another be counter-intuitive to the concept of "Occupy"? The news, politicians and pundits are already starting to take notice, they are starting to realize we mean business.

[-] 2 points by WildWeasel (32) 2 years ago

Well... we could consider this a move from one occupation site to another.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

My thoughts exactly!!!!!

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

[-] 2 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Occupation is simply one of many strategies. Besides if we get a large group marching, we get to occupy a new place each night :)

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Also please delete all the comment bombing you did in this thread. Thanks <3

[-] 1 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Once you get down there, you guys aren't planning to make demands, right? How committed are your organizers? This website might be able to throw its weight behind the cause if you guys are planning to put pressure on politicians rather than participating in politics. Can you also register a domain?

[-] 2 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 2 years ago

They could join up with october2011.org who are already occupying DC

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

The ones who refused to be filmed as if they were better than the rest of us? No thanks.

[-] 1 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 2 years ago

October2011.org has agreed with the sentiment of this movement. In fact this movement pretty much stole their thunder as they had planned an occupation from July. What are you talking about?

[-] 1 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 2 years ago

You equated two people with the whole group. I didn't see the whole group get up and say don't film us. I think something about you set off alarm bells with them and they didn't trust your actions. Independent media is fantastic.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Something about me? I wasn't the one filming, it's just a video that's been surfing around.

[-] 1 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 2 years ago

You said "The ones who refused to be filmed as if they were better than the rest of us? No thanks." and then used the video to back up your reasons.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

better than the rest of "us" as in the other groups occupying. I have been told by a few sources though that there are two separate groups in washington currently...both are under the occupy label but one is said to possibly have an "agenda", although I'm not sure what kind. maybe that was the one being filmed?

[-] 1 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Why not make it a solidarity march? You can stop by the philly and baltimore occupations along the way :) Emphasizing the social aspect rather than the political aspect is a beautiful thing. Then you don't have to stop there, keep marching around the country. For every person who decides to stop at an occupation along the way, ten times as many will replace them as you march between cities.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

This was the original thought, that people will join along the way. If nothing is done in washington, then we will move on and occupy every damn thing in our path.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

My honest opinion is that the now "trimmed down" list of demands is still much too long. I think 3-5 demands should be in place and be presented to congress/media/the president/whoever will listen. The MAIN FOCUS should be taking corporate funding OUT of government policy/elections/campaigns/etc. When companies with trillions of dollars call the shots, then the nation has no voice. There will be a VERY specific list of demands agreed upon and then presented to this sites users and the other groups online, alike.

The organizers are just regular people, much like most of the protesters are, and YES we are committed. The issue lies with the fact that we don't have money to throw at this cause, and at the time there are only 2 of us. One of us is in Seattle, and I am in upstate NY.

[-] 1 points by TheMismatch (50) from Lafayette, IN 2 years ago

What are the movement's specific list of demands? I can't find them. I heard about "fifteen areas of focus" or somesuch, but I can't find those either.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

There are unfortunately a lot of things floating around. The most accurate thing I have come across so far (or seemingly accurate) is this: http://coupmedia.org/the-sovereign-peoples-movement.html

[-] 0 points by occupythegreenparty (157) 2 years ago

Just taking the money out is not enough, you still have to make it possible for a new idea (not republican or democrat) to get in. That is BALLOT ACCESS.

[-] 0 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

This website won't endorse anything that involves making demands of the 1%. We're about empowering the 99% to build a better world themselves and we believe the people should be the architects of society. We don't need Wall Street or the government, we have the power to do it ourselves. We also support putting pressure on the system, but not participating in it.

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

No change can be made unless UNLAWFUL policies are taken down...We can make a change, sure, but how is that even possible unless we are recognized by the government that is suppose to be representing and protecting us... :/ There is merit with wanting change made without needing them, but in this case, they are a necessary evil. If enough people stand against something, then they have to address it otherwise they lose support, and their precious votes.

[-] 1 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

The government doesn't represent and protect us. Read the article posted today about what happened in Boston last night. If we've learned one thing over the past ten years it's that voting and asking the government for change does nothing. We don't need the government, we can build a better world ourselves. Also are you under the impression that what we're doing is legal? We don't have permits for anything, pretty much everything we're doing is illegal. And that's a problem because we've harmed no one. We haven't even defended ourselves when the police attacked us.

It's time for a revolution and that's something you can't ask Washington to do. To be honest, the only politician this site will ever endorse is this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOuumGX-6uc

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

I'm not saying we should endorse any of them. I'm saying that whether we like it or not, we have to spark something in one of them in order to get them to change things.

[-] 0 points by jart (1147) from New York, NY 2 years ago

You missed the part where I said revolution :P The only thing they'll be making is losing their job.

[-] 2 points by opensociety4us (914) from Norwalk, CT 2 years ago

maybe it would be counter-intuitive, maybe it wouldn't. so what?

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[-] 2 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

They are not realizing we mean business, they are just realizing that we are not stopping. We are just annoying them now. But we look like bums to them. The wall street group on Liberty Square has already chosen to relocate due to sanitary issues and lack of space. Something mobile and free of stagnant sleeping areas and dirty bathrooms would be better. We would not be damaging grass in parks or other public spaces if we were only there for one night, as opposed to three weeks.

[-] 0 points by joewealthyhaha (152) 2 years ago

all we are saying..... is give peace a chance.......

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by vibronix (187) 2 years ago

This is not about occupy... you miss the point completely

[-] 1 points by ddyer0617 (41) from Salisbury, MD 2 years ago

Not entirely, too long has Washington been throwing tax dollars and social security money to failing businesses. They deserve this as much if not more than Wall Street.

[-] -1 points by synonymous (161) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Great idea!!! Just like the veterans of WW I, A new Hooverville for this century!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooverville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfylLnHjcu0

I will join ya'll for that... American Solidarity...Peoples solidarity!!! ...also its gonna be quite cold in the near future...

I love you all keep it up...and see you soon!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc

Wont be until spring!

[-] 2 points by TeaParty (27) 2 years ago

Yes. I will March with you brothers and sisters! Let's get the message to the Congress and the White House. No more BS! No more the way it was! We need to clean D.C. Starting with Obama! Let's take the Billion dollars he's raised for his re-election campaign of lies!!

[-] 1 points by shadaxgale (230) from Oswego, NY 2 years ago

Please please spread the word!!!! http://www.facebook.com/marchtodc