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Forum Post: How American taxpayers are funding Palestinian terrorism

Posted 11 months ago on Jan. 6, 2014, 2:45 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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Here’s how the system works. When a Palestinian is convicted of an act of terror against the Israeli government or innocent civilians, such as a bombing or a murder, that convicted terrorist automatically receives a generous salary from the Palestinian Authority. The salary is specified by the Palestinian Law of the Prisoner and administered by the PA’s Ministry of Prisoner Affairs. A Palestinian watchdog group, the Prisoners Club, ensures the PA’s compliance with the law and pushes for payments as a prioritized expenditure. This means that even during frequent budget shortfalls and financial crisis, the PA pays the terrorists’ salaries first and foremost — before other fiscal obligations.

The Law of the Prisoner narrowly delineates just who is entitled to receive an official salary. In a recent interview, Ministry of Prisoners spokesman Amr Nasser read aloud that definition: “A detainee is each and every person who is in an Occupation prison based on his or her participation in the resistance to Occupation.” This means crimes against Israel or Israelis. Nasser was careful to explain, “It does not include common-law thieves and burglars. They are not included and are not part of the mandate of the Ministry.”

Under a sliding scale, carefully articulated in the Law of the Prisoner, the more heinous the act of terrorism and the longer the prison sentence, the higher is the salary. Detention for up to three years fetches a salary of almost $400 per month. Prisoners incarcerated between three and five years will be paid about $560 monthly — a compensation level already higher than that for many ordinary West Bank jobs. Sentences of 10 to 15 years fetch salaries of about $1,690 per month. More severe acts of terrorism, those punished with sentences between 15 and 20 years, earn almost $2,000 per month. These are the best salaries in the Palestinian territories. The Arabic word ratib, meaning “salary,” is the official term for this compensation. The law ensures the greatest financial reward for the most egregious acts of terrorism.

In the Palestinian community, the salaries are no secret — they are publicly hailed in public speeches and special TV reports. From time to time, the salaries are augmented with special additional financial incentives.

Read more: How American taxpayers are funding Palestinian terrorism | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/how-american-taxpayers-are-funding-palestinian-terrorism/#ixzz2peNMIZHf Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook

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[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 months ago

'N.Y. Mayor at Closed AIPAC Gala : ''Part of my Job is to Defend Israel'' by 'Ha'aretz :

''The Israel lobby's event was closed to journalists and the speech did not appear on the mayor's public schedule, arousing suspicion and making the event all the more intriguing. A reporter with 'Capital' who tried to get into the event was escorted out by security. ..... He closed the speech by announcing that "City Hall will always be open to AIPAC," adding that it is his job to stand by the lobby in Washington.''

fiat lux ...

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[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

'How American Tax Payers Are Funding Israeli Terrorism' :

One sided Neocon / Likud / AIPAC propaganda will and should, elicit balancing items such as the above and also below :

quid pro quo ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Islamic Jihad: Israel's 'recent escalation' in Gaza is attempt to sabotage Palestinian reconciliation Israel's "recent escalation" in the Gaza Strip aims to sabotage Palestinian reconciliation efforts, Islamic Jihad leader Ahmad Mudallal told Ma'an on Thursday.

Earlier inThursday, Palestinian terrorists fired mortar shells at IDF soldiers on the border between Israel southern Gaza. In response, the Israel Air Force struck the cell that fired into Israel.

The air force hit a small group of Palestinian armed men as they were preparing to fire again on IDF troops near the security fence, the IDF said.

Israel was "waging a war of attrition against Palestinian resistance groups, especially Islamic Jihad," Mudallal told Ma'an.

He accused Israel of attempt to "break the spirit of resistance" in order to impose its will on the Palestinians.

On Wednesday, Hamas released seven Fatah activists who had been sentenced to prison for security-related offenses as a part of a series of measures to pave the way for reconciliation with Fatah.

The measures, which have been welcomed by Fatah leaders, also include the return of Fatah activists who fled the Gaza Strip to their homes.

Senior Fatah official Azam al-Ahmed is expected arrive at the Gaza Strip soon to discuss ways to end the dispute between the Palestinian factions.

Senior security sources are noting an increase over the past two weeks in attacks from Gaza on Israel, leading them to question Hamas's motivation or ability to continue to enforce the truce, in effect since Operation Pillar of Defense of November 2012.

Hamas's ability to enforce the ceasefire may be in decline because growing pressure from Egypt, which has sealed smuggling tunnels linking Gaza to Sinai, and the general hostility of the Egyptian military government towards Hamas, due to its affiliations with the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. The closing of the tunnels is having a negative impact on Gaza's economy. http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Islamic-Jihad-Israels-recent-escalation-in-Gaza-is-attempt-to-sabotage-Palestinian-reconciliation-337702

[-] 4 points by Shule (2239) 11 months ago

I'm sorry but I don't have much sympathy for that Country called Israel; the Palestinians are just throwing back what is being thrown at them. If there is to be peace in the Middle-East, it is Israel that would have to make it.

[-] -3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

An instant reaction and no engagement with the links provided to u. I will be back - that's a promise but I can't haunt the forum silently waiting for 'attention' too. However - it is worth cross linking for the moment (and 'many moments' going forward) to :

fiat justitia ruat caelum ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Those who wonder whether Palestinians and Israeli can reconcile and co-exist in peace must also confront the fact that foreign influences are working to make that more difficult. In the case of the internationals at Deir Istiya, the foreign intervention reaches all the way into the United States, and to a humble trailer located off the road, deep in the woods of Florida.

Read more: Financing the flames from a mobile home in Florida | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/financing-the-flames-from-a-mobile-home-in-florida/#ixzz2pwNDrV8r Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

This past Monday, Israeli Intelligence Affairs Minister Dr. Yuval Steinitz and the Director General of his ministry, Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Yossi Kuperwasser held an unprecedented press conference on Monday in which they denounced the Palestinian Authority school system and shared evidence with the media that Adolf Hitler now plays a central figure as a role model in PA schools.

From the very genesis of the PA school curriculum, in 2000, the new schools of the PA, many of which are located in facilities run by UNRWA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, and funded by more than 40 donor nations, adopted a policy of teaching the next generation to venerate the ‘right of return’ to Palestine, all of Palestine, by means of holy war, martyrdom and education.

The PA rejected other curricula prepared by Ber Zeit University, a Palestinian academic facility located near Ramallah, which emphasized reconciliation and peace.

On March 1, 2000, Shimon Peres, then the Israel Minister of Regional Development, addressed the international colloquium of the Jewish media, where Peres lavished praise on the new Palestinian school curriculum for peace.

When I asked Peres to comment on the fact that the Palestinian school curriculum for peace which he referred to had been vetoed by the Palestinian Authority, Peres simply answered “I know”, but encouraged me to go directly to the Palestinian Authority Minister of Education to get the new school books, since they would be issued in a few months time, and that is exactly what I did.

On August 1, 2000, on the day that the new PA school books were issued. I traveled to Ramallah and met with the Palestinian Minster of Education, Dr. Nayim Abu Humus, who authorized our agency to buy all the new PA school books.

Dr. Abu Hummus asked that we give publicity to the new school books, which we readily agreed to do. Returning to Jerusalem, giving a cursory review of the school books, our Arabic language journalist colleagues noted that the new PA school books were problematic.

I brought a set of the books to the Dr. Shlomo Ben Ami, then the Israel Minister of Foreign Affairs and showed him the books, where he could see that the new maps produced by the nascent Palestinian Authority deleted Israel for every PA school child to see that only Palestine existed between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.

In those textbooks, there were lessons where Palestinian children learned about the armed struggle to liberate all of Palestine. Palestinian children learned about Zionism as a war crime, and specific lessons instructed Palestinian children to revere those who murdered Jews.

Ben Ami looked at the new PA school books as if I had brought him the Manhattan telephone book for his perusal.

As I left the minister's his office, Archbishop Pietro Sambi, the Pope's “ambassador to the Holy Land,” called my cell phone with a request: Could I bring the PA school books to him immediately. - "the Pope wants to see them". The honorary chairman of the ADL in Israel, the late Jack Padwa, had informed the Archbishop that our agency had purchased these books.

Together with Padwa, I traveled to the Archbishop's office on the Mount of Olives and delivered the books to the Archbishop - the set that the Israel Minister of Foreign Affairs did not want to look at.

The Vatican's ambassador assured us that the Pope would commission the first translation of the new Palestinian Schoolbooks, which he did.

Archbishop Sambi brought the books with him to Rome, and initiated a study of the PA textbooks, which the Vatican determined to be anti-semitic and pro-war in nature.

One month later, at the recommendation of the Pope and with the encouragement of Archbishop Sambi, the Italian government announced that it would pull its money out of the Palestinian Ministry of Education's PA text book project.

Here are some pearls of wisdom that Palestinian children learned from the new PA school books of the Palestinian Authority, which were introduced between 2000 and 2006, and which have been used ever since.

  1. Israel does not appear on any maps of the world in the new PA textbooks, while maps of Israel replace the name Israel with Palestine in all of the new Palestinian Authority school books.

  2. The new Palestinian School Books "annex" sites in Israel to Palestine.

"Haifa is a Palestinian seaport," (p. 7) (Lughatuna al-Jamila (Our Beautiful Language) Vol. 2, 5th grade textbook, p. 86).

"Galilee, Nazareth and Beit She'an are regions in Palestine," (p. 7) (Al-Iqtisad al-Manzili (Home Economy), 10th grade textbook, pp. 36-37).

  1. The new Palestinian school books mention Israel only as an enemy, in reference to "occupation of lands" in 1948 and 1967:

"There is no doubt that the Israeli occupation has a negative impact on [Palestinian] agriculture and its export," (p. (Lughatuna al-Jamila (Our Beautiful Language) Vol. 1, 10th grade textbook, p. 102).

  1. The new Palestinian school books present Zionism only as an enemy movement:

"The Palestinian people are under an oppressive siege, limiting their movement and way of life," (p. 9) (Al-Tarbiyah al-Islamiyyah (Islamic Education), Vol. 1, 5th grade textbook, p. 49).

Accusation against settlements [from 1948!] of damaging water sources "the influence of settlement on sources of water in Palestine," (p. 9) (Ulum al-Sihha wal-B'ia (Health and Environmental Sciences), 10th grade textbook, p. 122).

"The Palestinian family has problems...stemming from the occupation...it loses father, mother or son to death or imprisonment...endures the difficulties of life...," (p. 11) (Al-Tarbiyah al-Wataniyya (National Education), 5th grade textbook, p. 23).

  1. The new Palestinian School Books make the false claim that an "extremist Zionist" set fire to the Al-Aqsa Mosque in 1969, (p. 12) (Tarikh al'Alam al-Hadith wal-Mu'asir (History of the new Modern World), 10th grade textbook, p. 106) when it was really a mentally unstable fundamentalist Christian Australian.

  2. The new Palestinian School books teach that the only ancient inhabitants of Israel were Arabs, ignoring any ancient Jewish presence.

"Concentrated...in the land of Al-Sham [Greater Syria]...was the culture of the Canaanite and Aramaic peoples who migrated there from the Arab peninsula," (p.14-15) (Tarikh al-Hadarat al-Qadima (History of Ancient Civilizations), 5th grade textbook, Foreword).

  1. The new Palestinian school books teach that Palestinians must use war and violence - especially martyrdom - to accomplish their goals:

The heroic mother, "who incessantly presents one sacrifice [fida'] after another." (Lughatuna al-Jamila (Our Beautiful Language), Vol 2, 5th grade textbook, p. 31).

The warrior goes to war faced with one of the good options: victory or martyrdom in battle for the sake of Allah. (Ibid. Vol. 1, 5th grade textbook, p. 70).

"Allah gave the people of this land (Al-Sham and Palestine) an important task: they must stand on the forefront of the Muslim campaign against their enemies, and only if they fulfill their duty to their religion, nation, and land will they be rewarded as stated in the scriptures." (Al-Tarbiya al-Islamiyyah (Islamic Education), Vol 2, 10th grade textbook, p. 50).

  1. The new Palestinian school books feature children with names such as Jihad (holy war) and Nidal (struggle). (p.22) (Tarikh al-Hadarat al-Qadima (History of Ancient Civilizations), 5th grade textbook, p.6).

  2. The new Palestinian school books stress the importance of "return" of refugees to all of Palestine - by violence: "The wrong must be made right by returning them to their homes: we returned to the homeland after a long absence." (Lughatuna al-Jamila (Our Beautiful Language), Vol 2, 5th grade textbook, p. 43). "Returning to the homes, the plains and the mountains, under the banners of glory, jihad [holy war] and struggle" (Lughatuna al-Jamila (Our Beautiful Language), Vol 1, 5th grade textbook, p.88).

Since Shimon Peres, now the President of Israel, constantly attests to the moderate and peaceful intentions of Machmud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority, our agency has been submitting a request to Peres for a response to Abbas’s new educational system for the last six years. We have spoken to all of Peres’s spokespeople and to Peres’s advisers. Yet the response from Peres’s office is consistent refusal to respond.

At the press conference conducted on Monday, Israeli government education experts described Abbas’s school system as “war curriculum”, and stressed that Abbas’s schools were inculcating Palestinian youth with the idea that Hitler is a role model for every Palestinian child to emulate.

Our agency asked the spokesman of Shimon Peres for comment. After all, Peres convened a special briefing for visiting US Senators during the first weekend of 2014 to say that he had “full confidence” in Abbas as a peace partner.

Yet that same Machmud Abbas, who personally oversees the PA school curriculum of war.

The response from the office of the President of Israel: No comment.

However, the government of Israel finally heeded the initial warnings of the Vatican that the new Palestinian Authority school books are war-like in nature. Archbishop Sambi, who died in July, 2011, while he was the Papal Nuncio in Washington, DC, would have been proud. In my last conversation with Archbishop Sambi, shortly before his death, he asked if the Israeli government would ever make an official comment on the Palestinian school curricula. Now they have.

It took 13 years for the Israeli government to denounce the official curriculum of the Palestinian Authority, but now the Jewish state has done so, on the record. http://israelbehindthenews.com/bin/content.cgi?ID=7073&q=1

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

How long have the school children in Israel been taught that Zionist dictum : ''A people without a land for a land without a people'' ?!!! Your Neocon / AIPAC / Likudnik postings will only show you for the outright and shameless propagandist that you clearly are !! However you will also just keep giving me even more informational brickbats to use !

We can 'tit for tat' if u like ; I'll do 'tat' & u can be the other one ;-)

temet nosce ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Scores of Palestinian activists on Thursday attacked a hotel in Ramallah where Israelis and Palestinians were holding a meeting to talk about peace.

Chanting slogans against “normalization” with Israel, the vandals smashed windows and tried to storm the conference hall before dozens of Palestinian Authority policemen pushed them back.

The meeting, which was held under the motto “Ordinary People Make Peace,” was organized by a group called Israeli- Palestinian Public Negotiating Congress in Ramallah & Jerusalem.

The group is co-chaired by Dr. Sapir Handelman, an Israeli who received the Peter Becker Award in Peace & Conflict Studies, and Ibrahim Enbawi, a prominent Palestinian figure from Jerusalem.

Thursday’s meeting was part of a two-day seminar on solutions to the conflict. The second meeting is expected to place in east Jerusalem on Friday.

The Palestinian and Israeli delegations consist of 15 members each. They include ex-IDF officers, Palestinian security commanders, Israeli settlers, Palestinian ex-prisoners, academics, businessmen and journalists.

Palestinian activists who learned about the meeting at City Inn Hotel hanged a banner at the entrance to the hotel reading, “Normalization is Treason.”

The activists protested against the presence of Israelis in the city, banging on the main gate and chanting, “Israelis out!” Others chanted, “No to negotiations, no to normalization, this homeland is not for sale” and “Our people want RPG [rocket-propelled grenades], not security coordination.”

A Palestinian journalist expressed outrage over the hanging of an Israeli flag next to a Palestinian flag inside the conference hall.

One of the protesters condemned the Palestinian participants.

“Instead of caring about our people in the refugee camps, they are sitting here with Israelis who are killing our people every day,” he said. “It’s disgraceful that these people and our Palestinian Authority are continuing to negotiate with Israelis, begging them to give us something.”

The activist denounced the PA police for refusing to allow him and his friends to enter the conference hall to protest against the meeting.

Another activist said he and his friends came to the hotel to tell the Israelis to leave immediately. “This is not where Israelis should be,” he said. “They should be pursued before international courts for war crimes.” http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Scores-of-Palestinians-disrupt-Israeli-Palestinian-activists-peace-meeting-in-Ramallah-337691

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

“Instead of caring about our people in the refugee camps, they are sitting here with Israelis who are killing our people every day,” he said. “It’s disgraceful that these people and our Palestinian Authority are continuing to negotiate with Israelis, begging them to give us something.” Hmmm and so also see :

fiat lux ; fiat justitia ; fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

January 7, 2014 by Ricki Hollander, Gilead Ini

New York Times Coverage of Incitement: A Step in the Right Direction

As part of CAMERA's ongoing campaign to ensure The New York Times covers the Palestinian-Israeli conflict fairly, fully and accurately, we have often urged the newspaper to cover the climate of Palestinian incitement and hate rhetoric in which Israel must negotiate a peace agreement. An advertisement by CAMERA published in local New York newspapers in December faulted the newspaper for omitting coverage of the most extreme Palestinian genocidal rhetoric against Israelis and Jews.

The New York Times has since then mentioned the disturbing issue of Palestinian incitement – in a Dec. 25 article that quoted Israel's defense minister linking a Palestinian sniper attack that killed an Israeli laborer to "the atmosphere of incitement and hatred against Israel that dominates the Palestinian Authority,'' in a Jan. 4 editorial that called on Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to "crack down on the incitement of hatred against Israel in Palestinian schools, textbooks and government-controlled media," and, most prominently, in a Jan. 7 article by Jerusalem bureau chief Jodi Rudoren that provides some of the examples of Palestinian incitement highlighted by Israeli officials and links to the Israeli presentation that documented them.

It is true that the article's headline places "incitement" in scare quotes ("Israeli Official Points to ‘Incitement' by Palestinians") and constantly describes the phenomenon as mere claim by Israeli officials. And it is true that such circumspection and ostensible objectivity are notably absent when the newspaper deals with criticism of Israel -- no scare quotes were used when the newspaper slandered Israeli leaders as "shrill," "strident," "stubborn," "abrasive" and "derisive." But despite this, the piece is one of the most detailed expositions The New York Times, to its credit, has provided to date of the important issue.

Palestinian hate speech, the encouragement of anti-Israel violence, and the denial of Jewish rights to the land matter, because they all serve as potent fuel for the conflict. The type of compromises being asked of the parties to the conflict are difficult on their own, and are all the more difficult when Palestinians are being asked to strike a deal with "barbaric monkeys" and "wretched pigs," as the Jews are described on Palestinian television. Sustainable peace will require Palestinians to stop rocket attacks from Gaza, stoning attacks in Jerusalem, and bus bombs deep in Tel Aviv — "Peace for Israel means security," Martin Luther King explained — but when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas embraces Palestinian terrorists responsible for brutally murdering Israeli civilians and describes them as heroes, that encourages Palestinians to view Israelis as legitimate targets. And if Palestinians are told again and again that a Jewish state is illegitimate, or even an offense to God, then the mere existence of that state will feel like a provocation, before or after a peace treaty is signed.

Hatred obstructs peace. That is why Jodi Rudoren's article is important, and why The New York Times needs to deal with Palestinian incitement, forthrightly and consistently, so long as the phenomenon exists. Just as Israeli announcements of settlement plans make headlines at the newspaper no matter how many similar headlines have appeared before, coverage must be given to Palestinian hate rhetoric that equates Jews with Nazis, crusaders or pigs and that urges the murder of Israeli and Jews. http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=55&x_article=2508

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Uh-oh !!! I read it !! Then I recognised it ! See : http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/CAMERA and ''CAMERA is known for its pro-Israel media monitoring and advocacy'', from :

''The Middle East today stands first of all as proof of the malignant role of imperialism in forcing the mass of the world’s people to suffer grinding poverty, brutal levels of exploitation and the ever growing danger of war. Secondly, it is stark confirmation of the inability of the national bourgeoisie to oppose imperialist oppression.

''The only consistently anti-imperialist force in the world is the international working class. The (actual) fundamental task facing the workers of the Middle East is the construction of a new socialist movement that makes its appeal across all artificial national and religious distinctions. In turn, workers in the US and other imperialist countries must reject with contempt the cynical efforts by the New York Times et al. to legitimise or conceal their governments’ predatory designs on the world’s strategic markets and resources through the building of a powerful socialist anti-war movement.'' For even more balance see :

From the final link above : ''This blog is dedicated to tearing down the separation wall and transforming the Israeli Apartheid system into a secular democracy, where Israelis & Palestinians will live as equal citizens. As an Israeli that was raised on the Zionist ideal of a Jewish state - I know how hard it is for many Jews and Palestinians to let go of the dream of having a state that is exclusively “our own.” & :

'“Miko Peled is a peace activist who dares to say in public what others still choose to deny. He has credibility, so when he debunks myths that Jews around the world hold with blind loyalty, people listen. Miko was born in Jerusalem in 1961 into a well known Zionist family. His grandfather, Dr. Avraham Katsnelson was a Zionist leader and signer on the Israeli Declaration of Independence. His father, Matti Peled was a young officer in the war of 1948 and a general in the war of 1967 when Israel conquered the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and the Sinai.''

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

No, darlin'....uh-oh was when you failed to grasp whom Edwin Black was.

This isn't tit for tat. You just lack the capacity to move beyond that point. I spoke about settler violence in the prior thread. See there is a problem with what is called price tagging. Jewish settler kids are vandalizing property. Palestinian property and IDF/Border security etc. A few days ago, a group entered into Kusra with the intent of price tagging. Younger Palestinians chased them into an abandoned house and beat the hell out of them. It was the older Palestinians that stepped in to stop that shit and called the authorities.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Jewish-settler-price-tag-vigilantes-will-ignite-next-intifada-337573

Here is a pic of the lil' gang bangers http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Palestinians-beat-up-Jewish-settlers-for-allegedly-throwing-stones-at-West-Bank-farmers-337370

We have nothing to discuss. You have already made it clear that you're a dirt bag.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

From ''darlin' to dirt bag'', in as long as it took u to find some more of your one-sided propagandist links huh and are ''the lithium meds wearing off'' - again ?!!! I'm flattered much more by ''dirtbag'' as darlin' will kill my cred, lol !! Coming from a Neocon like of u, mos def I'm considering ''d-b'' as a compliment tho' !

Note that ''the prior thread'' is just that .. so speak about it here if u dare but please do stop hiding and wriggling behind specious canards again.

If u need a source for things happening 'TO Palestinians', try that http://jfjfp.com/ link above .. IF Miko Peled was too much for u or - u could even try that 'Hamas / Al Qassam' site that YOU linked to here :

We don't ''discuss'' jack-diddly-squat, as : u post b-s ; I respond & disassemble it ; u try to respond without apparent emotion ; I reply to u ; u 'Lose The Plot' ; I checkmate - like just now & here before :

But at the very least I've managed to teach u the difference between 'your' and ''you're'' & now u can work on 'whose & who's' ... when others ask u who u r working for here and who sends u checks or cheques !

minima maxima sunt ...

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

But, I............don't give a damn what you think. You're a troll. You're a pathetic one at that. I can sit here and smack the shit out of you all night long if you like.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

OMGosh at the extent of your delusions !!! Yes 'GF', u DO ''give a damn'' and Very Much Indeed !! I've been here nearly as long as 'Builder' & ONLY people like u & 'WendySquid / JiffySmith' call me ''troll'', so now how and why would that be, I wonder ?!! LOL ! So try to look at my reply to and 'ROFLAO' @ :

Nope GF, you're the ''pathetic one'' and fire away IF u really think that u can ''smack the shit out of (me) all night long'' & go right on ahead although in truth I have not really got all that long .. but I shall soldier on for your sake because I'm all big hearted like that ;-) So again consider :

'Hanna Braun is a retired lecturer, living in London. She is a former Israeli, having emigrated to Palestine as a child in 1937 to escape Nazi Germany -- her grandmother later died in the Terezin ghetto. She was in the Haganah in 1948 but then left Israel in 1958 for Britain - after having become disillusioned with the Israeli government.''

Now u did not have time to deal with that back on that thread u now probably regret making - but we can have another go here if u'd really like to try again.

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

You became a troll when you started the wall of shit. You're a disgusting and filthy twat.

Iranian-born soldiers are hot commodity in IDF

From under Ayatalloh's shadow into secretive world of IDF intelligence – Iranian-born Israelis are in demand by top military brass, encouraged to stay in army beyond mandatory service or the first time, the IDF's weekly magazine Bamahane ("in the camp") published figures regarding the number and positions of Iranian olim who enlist in the Israeli army.

Every year, on average, more than 50 Iranian-born soldiers join the IDF, who together with their families had risked their lives and suffered many hardships on their way to the Jewish State.

Some 60% of Iranian-born males choose to serve in the military, though only 23% of females do – about half of the general enlistment rates for women. The IDF's Manpower Directorate did not provide a detailed explanation for the disparity, though it is likely that many seek religious exemptions, choosing to volunteer for national service instead. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4474921,00.html

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

WOW re. .. ''You're a disgusting and filthy twat'' !!!

Is anyone else, allowed to speak like that here ?!!

Now see what I'd meant by ''checkmate'' before ?!

Iran ?!!! Does that mean that u are getting ready to speak about the 50k+ people of Judaic heritage or confession who still live in Iran ?!! I'm impressed !

Now I dare u to read that and access the 3 'You-Tube' videos AND the 3 articles @ the end of that link. It will be a real education I promise but in case u can't or won't, please just try to thoughtfully consider :

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Watch: Israeli Singer Rita Rocks it in Iran While Rita does not have ambitions for politics, she believes that music can improve international relations. wo very successful women with a common Iranian heritage met recently in London. Israeli singer Rita was interviewed by CNN’s Christiane Amanpour. With the recent tumult in Israeli – Iranian relations, Rita arrived in London to perform and present her position -- she wanted to remind the world that Israel and Iran have a common history. She added, “The main thing is for me to speak to the Iranian people. We understand that we have to differentiate between the government and the people. This totalitarian regime forces its will on its people. “

During Rita’s visit in London which was organized by the Israeli embassy, Rita spoke in the House of Lords, met with world leaders, and even interviewed in the Iranian press. Her last album which included songs in Farsi was a big hit even in Iran.

Rita has become a type of diplomat. “These performances and speaking in the House of Lords have made me feel that I am connecting between people and I am very happy to do this.” http://www.jerusalemonline.com/culture-and-lifestyle/watch-israeli-singer-rita-rocks-it-in-iran-2971

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

What on earth has the singer 'Rita' got to do with this thread ..... unless it is from a hasbara pov ?!

What actual purpose r u thinking that these links of yours are serving other than to embarrass u ?!!

minima maxima sunt ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

JERUSALEM (JTA) — Israel reported an all-time high in annual visitors in 2013.

A record 3.54 million visitors arrived in Israel in 2013, half a percent more than the previous record year. Meanwhile, some 272,000 tourists arrived in December, a 14 percent increase over December 2012, setting a record for most arrivals in the Jewish state in one month.

The figures were released Thursday by Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics.

Nearly 18 percent of tourists arrived from the United States, with some 623,000 Americans visiting. Russia sent 603,000 tourists, and France 315,000.

More than half the tourists, or 53 percent, were Christian; only 28 percent were Jewish.

Overall, tourism contributed about $11.4 billion to the Israeli economy in 2013, according to the Ministry of Tourism.

“The year 2013 is a record year for tourism, and we are proud of that. Despite Operation Pillar of Defense and the security situation in the region, tourists voted with their feet,” said Tourism Minister Uzi Landau.

Read more: http://www.jta.org/2014/01/09/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/israel-tourism-reaches-all-time-high-ministry-reports#ixzz2pxLyDIsO

Yes, filthy disgusting twat. Not interested in your checkmate.

[-] -1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

''Today, this land is one of moral turpitude, a blot on the family’s record, a historic disgrace. In the West Bank, the State of Israel has become an apartheid state, where our children carry out war crimes on our behalf ; where the concept of population transfer has become a reality ; where (in a sickening twist of history) the Jews have become a master race that is on a lofty and well-protected pedestal while The Other – the Palestinian – has no rights, no identity, and can be trampled upon by any soldier, any member of the Shin Bet security service - in fact, by anyone with a blue identity card.'' from :

Listen up 'GirlFriedHead', u really are NOT doing your friends (and paymasters ?!) ANY favours here trying to take me on & to NOT get that it is to risk the termination of your hasbara contract ... perhaps 'with extreme prejudice' !! So as u can see, it's not just my ''checkmate'' that u should be worried about !

caveat ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

radical, new way to educate children in Israel.

Hand in Hand: Center for Jewish-Arab Education is catalyzing a dramatic shift in Israeli education by offering a new educational model: bilingual, bicultural schools where Jewish and Arab children learn together.

Hand in Hand's mission is both educational and social. We seek to provide a first-class education while leveraging for broad social change at the family, community and national levels. http://www.handinhandk12.org/inform

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Consider : ''Neocons Who Brought You The Iraq War Endorse AIPAC’s Iran Bill'', by Jim Lobe :

From which : ''The Neoconservative 'Foreign Policy Initiative' (FPI) - the successor organization of the 'Project for the New American Century' (PNAC), has just published another open letter to Congressional leaders that implicitly endorses what I have called the “Kirk-Menendez Wag the Dog Act of 2013,” known officially as the ''Nuclear Weapon Free Iran Act of 2013 (S. 1881)''. I say implicitly, because it doesn’t come right out and urge support for the specific bill, which AIPAC and the Israel lobby, for which AIPAC is the vanguard, are flogging as hard as they possibly can. But the intention is pretty clear.''

yEP ! No doubt about it !! For sure ''education'' sure is important - Just Like Peace !!! Also fyi, consider :

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 11 months ago

PNAC = panic

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

No Don't Panic ! Just 'Keep Calm & Carry On'' !! But 'PNAC' NEVER went away - they just 'morphed' !!!

fiat lux ...

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

In the interests of balance and 'bilingualality' perhaps the words : Qibya, Jenin, Sabra and Shatilla - should get some air play :

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

NGO threatens to sue US academic group which boycotts Israel In the wake of the American Studies Association’s December- announced boycott of Israel and Israeli universities, Shurat Hadin is considering suing the ASA for unlawful discrimination.

Shurat Hadin – Israel Law Center on Thursday sent a letter to the ASA threatening to sue initiate a lawsuit on behalf of various Israeli academics, arguing that the ASA boycott violates international, federal and state laws. Related:

The distributed letter mentioned a number of New York state laws against discrimination that make it unlawful discrimination “for any person to boycott or blacklist, or to refuse to buy from, sell to or trade with, or otherwise discriminate against any person, because of the race, creed, color, national origin.”

It also mentions Article 1.1 of the international Anti-Racism Convention, which was ratified by the US, as prohibiting discrimination of the kind that it accuses ASA of practicing.

The NGO then wrote that according to the Anti-Defamation League and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign, which the ASA has joined, is at its core not merely anti-Israel, but anti-Semitic.

Further, Shurat Hadin made the case that BDS is not “protected free speech,” as it is “action” and not mere speech, adding that BDS infringes on the free speech of other academics.

The NGO said that “as of January 8, 2013, over 100 college presidents have gone on record as opposing the ASA boycott and at least five universities have withdrawn or plan to withdraw as institutional members of the association.”

Shurat Hadin also cited several other statutes that it said the ASA had violated.

Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, director of Shurat Hadin, said, “It is quite simple, the law in the United States prohibits discrimination on the basis of any protected characteristic, faith, ethnicity, sexuality or disability.”

She continued, “The ASA boycott which targets Israelis because they are Israelis and Jews is illegal. We commend those professors and academic institutions who have distanced themselves from this blinkered and hateful boycott.”

The letter did not give a deadline for the ASA to cancel its boycott, but said that failure to do so would lead to legal action without further notice.

In August 2013, Shrurat Hadin launched similar litigation in Australia against academic Jake Lynch of Sydney University.

Lynch is fighting the case, which had hearings starting in the end of November 2013, and has said he was sued because BDS works and that the point of BDS is not discrimination, but to “contribute to prospects for sustainable peace, peace with justice, for Israelis and Palestinians.” http://www.jpost.com/National-News/NGO-threatens-to-sue-US-academic-group-which-boycotts-Israel-337621

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

''I believe the media have refused to explore the Zionist issue because it would involve a lot of squeamish self-interrogation on the part of Jewish people. Imagine Ted Koppel having a panel where Wolf Blitzer, Robert Siegel, David Gregory, Andrea Mitchell, Richard Engel and Ed Rendell would have to explain what Zionism means to them. The acknowledgement of Jewish prominence in the Establishment, and of the power of Zionism, would make a lot of Jews uncomfortable, so the conversation is verboten.''

Gone well past my bed time GF but thanx for this - it was emotional (4 u, lol) Btw, don't be such a 'toilet mouth'' in reply please .. 'cause that may just make me angry - or even possibly giggle my ass off. Do u recall my advice here .... http://occupywallst.org/forum/samer-issawi-hunger-strikes-and-the-palestinian-st/#comment-1017053 ?! Should u have considered & taken it ?!! Guess we'll never know now, right ?!!!

vale ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (16336) 3 minutes ago

''Israel is a powerhouse in medical innovation. We give you a dozen standouts from a field with many exciting, game-changing candidates.''

Hmmm. So, who is ''we'' in this construct ?! I had u down as a lapsed Mormon, single mum with a touch of myopia (actual and figurative) but now it transpires that I may have been a tad off base there !! Have u blown 'your cover' lol ?!!!

Also FYI : ''THE LOST OWS NEWS ARTICLE RE. GAZA'' : <http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-both-sides-are-awful-dismissal-of-gaza-ignores/#comment-881055> .

Here, appended as it was put out and then ''pulled'' over a year ago but not before some here saved it for posterity and an opportune moment .. like right now & u really should urgently do something about your 'toilet mouth' btw.

e tenebris, lux ... ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


No, bitch. I'm an atheist. The We is the beginning of the article you uneducated hilljack.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Note my additional script added later to that comment : ''and u should also further be aware that such 'exoskeletal medical advances' are really much more about 'future military tech' than anything else.''

Being an atheist, in no way, shape or form precludes u being a Neocon .. sadly but I will append an item by a couple of other people who are also atheists but aren't Neocons - for balance, u understand :

U blew your cover in the first person plural - my edjumification is enuf to werk that out & now u r livid - or u identify so very closely with that link of questionable relevance, as to have internalised it deep within u.

nosce te ipsum ...

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Not emotional for me, twat.

Israel is a powerhouse in medical innovation. We give you a dozen standouts from a field with many exciting, game-changing candidates.

  1. ApiFix system to correct severe curvature of the spine (scoliosis) minimizes risks, scar size, complications, recovery time and cost. The miniature ratchet mechanism has successfully been implanted in 15 patients so far. Limited sales of the product have begun while clinical trials are in the last stage

  2. Argo Medical Technologies’ Rewalk robotic exoskeleton from was featured on the hit TV show “Glee” and enabled paraplegic runners in London and Tel Aviv to complete marathons. The ReWalk Rehabilitation model currently is used by patients in rehab centers from New York to Dusseldorf. ReWalk Personal, for everyday home use, is available throughout Europe and awaiting FDA clearance in the United States.

http://israel21c.org/health/the-top-12-most-amazing-israeli-medical-advances/

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

''Israel is a powerhouse in medical innovation. We give you a dozen standouts from a field with many exciting, game-changing candidates.''

Hmmm. So, who is ''we'' in this construct ?! I had u down as a lapsed Mormon, single mum with a touch of myopia (actual and figurative) but now it transpires that I may well have been more than a tad off base there !! Have u blown your .. 'cover' lololol ?!!!

Here, appended as it was put out and then ''pulled'' over a year ago but not before some here saved it for posterity and an opportune moment .. like right now & u really should urgently do something about your 'toilet mouth' btw and u should also further be aware that such 'exoskeletal medical advances' are really much more about 'future military tech' than anything else.

ad iudicium ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

During a brazen attack Tuesday afternoon in the normally peaceful Jewish Quarter of the Old City, several Arabs threw rocks at two young women, injuring one of them before fleeing, police said.

According to National Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld, at approximately 1 p.m. the suspects began throwing rocks at the women without provocation, resulting in a light hand injury to one of the victims. Related:

Police officer stabbed in back during terrorist attack near West Bank checkpoint
Arab girl, aged 16, attempts to stab border police officer in Jerusalem

Upon being approached by a number of police officers, the group fled into the Old City’s labyrinth of alleys and walkways, evading capture. Rosenfeld noted that such attacks in the Jewish Quarter are unusual.

“These types of incidents don’t happen very often,” he said a couple hours after the assault. “The incident is being treated very seriously and police will thoroughly review surveillance footage likely recorded and make arrests shortly.”

Rosenfeld is referring to the state-of-the-art Police Intelligence and Observation Center, located in the Old City, which is hooked up to an intricate network of hundreds of surveillance cameras streaming live footage 24-hours a day to some 40 large high-definition screens.

“Hopefully, we can use the camera system to find out who the suspects were by seeing what they look like, how they were dressed, and exactly where they were and then use it as proof in court, so it’s very important,” said Rosenfeld.

MK Reuven Rivlin (Likud) said Tuesday he believes the attack was an effort to further exacerbate already tenuous peace negotiations in an attempt to prove to the world that co-existence between Arabs and Jews is impossible.

“Jerusalem is a microcosm of the ability of Jews and Arabs to live together,” said Rivlin.

“And when extremists on both sides see even the possibility of finding understanding to bring an end to the conflict they’ll do something to prevent it.”

Rivlin continued, “Without the idea that we can live together peacefully we will not bring an end to this conflict, and they are doing their best to prove that Arabs and Jews cannot live together.”

While Meretz councilman and east Jerusalem Portfolio head Meir Margalit said that it is impossible to determine if the attack was politically motivated until the assailants are arrested, he said he wholly agreed with Rivlin’s assessment.

“There’s no question that extremists from both sides are trying to undermine negotiations,” he said, adding that the protracted nine-month long process is giving terrorists a large window of time and an international stage to derail any success.

“One of the problems with this peace process is that it’s too long and gives extremists opportunities to attempt to ruin it,” he said. “It would be far better if it did not last for nearly one year.”

Tuesday’s attack followed a pronounced spike in terrorist activity over the past few weeks.

On Friday evening, a female 16-year-old Palestinian attempted to stab a border police officer stationed at Jerusalem’s Damascus Gate before being disarmed and wrestled to the ground, resulting in one officer sustaining a cut to his leg.

On December 23, Rami Ravid, a 41-year-old police officer, was stabbed in the back by a Palestinian terrorist next to the West Bank Highway 60 junction, just outside of Jerusalem and Ramallah.

Ravid was rushed to Shaare Zedek Medical Center with a 15-centimeter blade still lodged in his back. Although the knife was successfully removed during surgery, he lost a kidney. Police continue to search for his assailant.

Ravid’s assault came approximately 24 hours after Border Police thwarted a separate knife-wielding terrorist attack at the Ma’aleh Adumim checkpoint, and a bomb was detonated on an empty bus in the Tel Aviv suburb of Bat Yam earlier that afternoon.

No one was seriously wounded in either incident.

On Thursday, Israel Police, with the aid of the IDF and Shin Bet, arrested 14 Palestinians believed to be behind the bus bombing.

Rosenfeld has repeatedly urged the public to remain acutely aware of their surroundings at all times and to alert police immediately of any unusual activity.

“Security assessments continue to be made and police are stepping up patrols to prevent future attacks,” he said. http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Rock-attack-in-Old-Citys-Jewish-Quarter-lightly-injures-young-woman-337392

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

No more 'GF' from now - just 'HT' = Hasbara Troll, lol !!! You & I can trade stories of callousness and cruelty but what good would it do ?!! I'm actually bored and tired now but in this my last comment now, I'm still obliged to offer some balance ! So read, reflect & ruminate on the links embedded here please :

Consider : ''An eye for an eye'' - only makes you blind & ''Never forget- Never forgive'' only rots your soul.

cave - bellum se ipsum alet ...

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[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Sixth bilingual school opens in Haifa December 26, 2012|By J. Zel Lurie

Bilingual education has always attracted me. I built the first bilingual Hebrew-Arabic primary school for Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel a quarter century ago. Now there are six bilingual schools in Israel and more on the drawing boards.

The sixth bilingual school in the binational city of Haifa was opened in September.

All six schools have the problem of teaching Jewish and Palestinian children, all of whom are Israeli citizens but who come from separate communities that were at war 64 years ago, and the war continues across the Green Line. In addition, Israeli Jews and Israeli Palestinians have two separate and often contradictory narratives of what actually happened during Israel's War of Independence.

While the Palestinians are citizens of Israel, they have separate national and religious holidays. How do the Israeli bilingual schools meet this challenge?

The Hagar bilingual school in Beersheba solves the problem by celebrating all of the Jewish, Muslim and Christian holidays. The five other schools do the same, but then there is the problem of different memorial days for the War of Independence.

Kids love holidays, and the Jewish and Palestinian memorial days are fortunately not bunched together but are spread out over the spring months.

I visited Beersheba in 1951 as a guest of General Moshe Dayan who was then the Southern military governor. It was then a dusty town of about 4,000 Arabs and several hundred Israeli soldiers. It is now a bustling Israeli city of about 200,000 Jews and 20,000 Arabs. In 2006, Jewish and Arab educators got together and incorporated the Hagar school for Jewish-Arab Education for Equality.

At first they had only a kindergarten. Six years later they have grown exponentially. They have eleven classes, of which five are preschool and six grades. They will continue to add a grade each year.

The eleven classes have 21 teachers — one Arab and one Jewish teacher in each class — with an average of 25 pupils in every class. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-12-26/opinion/fl-jjps-lurie-1226-20121226_1_bilingual-school-bilingual-education-government-schools

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Interesting comment. Now consider :

Where in response to your :

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[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21485) 1 day ago :

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I said :

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[-] -1 points by shadz66 (15992) 1 minute ago

Interesting ! One would think that only 'admin' or 'mods' would have access to such information !!

Have u just gone and 'blown your cover' - AGAIN, lol ?!!!

e tenebris, lux ...

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et multum in parvo ....

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Specious canards deserve the treatment they get :

IF u had a point, u'd have made it clearly ! Crafty obfuscation and dubious obscurantism are the marks of a self-exposed shill !! U can grind what are left of your teeth and start some deranged, sweary, toilet-mouthed tirade now ... but as u are so fond of saying (cf. 'Mandela Legislator' thread) : ''you're done'' !!!

ad iudicium ...

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

[-] 0 points by shadz66 (15992) 0 minutes ago

Specious canards deserve the treatment they get :

<http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-would-mlk-say-to-obama/#comment-1018107>

IF u had a point, u'd have made it clearl ! Tenuous obfuscation and dubious obscurantism is the mark of a self-exposed shill !! U can grind what's left of your teeth and start some sweary, toilet-mouthed tirade now but as u are so fond of saying (cf. 'Mandela Legislator' thread) : ''you're done'' !!!

ad iudicium ... ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink


You simply aren't capable.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 10 months ago

''A recent letter attacking Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz is causing an internal brouhaha at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, The Cable has learned. The powerful lobbying outfit, known for its disciplined non-partisan advocacy for Israel, recently issued an action alert about the Florida congresswoman's waffling on Iran sanctions legislation. The letter urged members to contact Wasserman Schultz and cited a disparaging article about her in a conservative website founded by a prominent Republican political operative.

''That AIPAC was driving hard for new Iran sanctions legislation surprised no one. But its use of a right-wing blog to target a well-connected Jewish Democrat with a long history of support for Israel raised eyebrows among some current and former AIPAC officials. It also raised concerns that AIPAC's open revolt against the White House's Iran diplomacy could fray its relations with liberal Democrats on the Hill.

"In the 40 years I've been involved with AIPAC, this is the first time I've seen such a blatant departure from bipartisanship," said Doug Bloomfield, AIPAC's former chief lobbyist. Bloomfield was referring to an AIPAC letter scrutinizing Wasserman Schultz's silence on sanctions. The letter relied on the Washington Free Beacon's reporting, which (irony alert) happened to be the first news outlet to report [ http://freebeacon.com/debbies-double-talk/ ] on the existence of the letter.'' from :

The question is - are u ''capable'' of digesting that ?!!! Given the title of your forum-post, I doubt it !! But then again - u could surprise me ! In which case u may also like to calmly consider the 2 items, herein :

multum in parvo ...

[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 11 months ago

Cointelpro. Obvious now.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

You're just as bad. You're actually more of a coward.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 11 months ago

Coming from you, that's a compliment.

[-] -2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

Are you sure ?!!! I thought that that program had finished ?!! There's a 'New Variant' you mean ?! + FYI :

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 11 months ago

Secretary of State John Kerry has threatened to discontinue all American aid to the Palestinian Authority if the current round of negotiations does not result in a peace agreement, a senior Palestinian official claimed Thursday.

Taysir Khaled, a member of the PLO Executive Committee, said that the US had implied it would stop giving financial aid to the Palestinian Authority and would not be able to prevent Israeli expansion of West Bank settlements, if a framework for a long-lasting accord was not agreed upon, Maariv reported.

According to the Israeli daily, Khaled accused Kerry of committing political blackmail by pressuring Palestinians to make concessions.

“So far, the negotiations did not lead to a significant breakthrough on essential issues,” Khaled reportedly said during a press conference in Ramallah. ”The Palestinian side cannot sign a framework agreement because it does not comply with our minimum requirements and with rights of the Palestinians. We will not give up on the Palestinian cause for money.”

Kerry has made 10 visits to the region since talks resumed last July, shuttling between Israeli and Palestinian leaders to mediate talks.

Recently he has been pushing a framework agreement, as part of his efforts to nudge Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu closer to a full treaty that would establish a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

But the two sides have reportedly been at odds over almost every aspect of the core issues involved in a two-state accord. As part of a framework deal designed to keep the talks going past an April deadline, Kerry has been reportedly pushing Netanyahu to agree to negotiations on the basis of a Palestinian state to be established along the pre-1967 lines, with land-swap adjustments, and urging Abbas to recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

Beyond these points, the two sides are said to disagree over security arrangements, border demarcations, the fate of Jerusalem and Palestinian refugee demands under a permanent deal. There have also been disputes over who will be released in a final phase of prisoner releases by Israel of terror convicts in the coming months.

An official in Ramallah told Palestinian newspaper al-Ayyam that the meetings recently held between Kerry and the Palestinian leadership failed to reach an agreement on any issue.

“We talked about everything, but without agreement on anything,” the official said in an article published Monday.

According to the newspaper, the Palestinians presented their positions on all the issues to Kerry, and are expecting to be presented with the positions of the US secretary of state for the framework agreement.

Read more: 'Kerry threatens to cut PA aid if no peace deal signed' | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/kerry-threatened-to-cut-pa-aid-if-no-peace-deal-signed/#ixzz2pxIh0Lhc Follow us: @timesofisrael on Twitter | timesofisrael on Facebook

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (19985) 11 months ago

"Rabbis for Palestine : A One State Solution For All" :

''The Universal Declaration Of Human Rights'' :

Now, is that really so hard to understand ? Possibly ONLY for those who are seduced by :

''That Most Charming of Couples : Nationalism and Hypocrisy'', by William Blum :

"Peace Train" (Cat Stevens) :

So the bad language, voting and twinkles and stinkles here really don't matter at all - as the narrative is there for all : with the eyes to see ; the heart to feel ; the soul to wish .. and the spirit - to keep hoping :

shalom aleichem ; salam alaikum ; pax vobiscum ; ommm shaantii ommm ...

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