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Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 12, 2011, 12:06 p.m. EST by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN
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Teach the Children. Take them by the hand and lead them.

We all love our children.

We want them to be happy and care free.

We want them to be healthy and well fed.

We want to see them adequately housed.

We want them to live in a peaceful and prosperous world.

We want them to grow-up strong and independent.

We want them to be able to defend themselves whenever necessary.

We want them to be able and willing to defend the helpless.

We want them to be good and to be responsible.

We want them to be flexible and not fragile.

These wishes for our children will not happen if we do not live up to these principles.

We need to work for a better tomorrow Today.

We need to fight greed and corruption in all it’s forms.

We need to demand, support and implement Green Technology.

We need to teach our children how to defend themselves and why they need to know how. There are plenty of monsters in the world. Sheltering them from this awareness does not help them to be safe and happy. Teach them what bullies are and why they need to stand up to them. Teach them to have confidence in themselves and in their abilities. Teach them the Golden Rule and help them to understand it. We don’t need to confirm or deny God because of the separation of church and state. But we do need to teach them good morals and good fellowship.

All this and more we need to do. We need to promote and support in our communities, in our World.

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[-] 6 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 2 years ago

If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776

Here comes trouble:

https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

Bring it on!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Great post lets hope it goes viral. Hell help it along. Copy & Circulate everybody, Twitter, Facebook and any other form of communication that you can use.

https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

[-] 2 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 2 years ago

Great news, just re-occupied this website!!!

http://www.nycga.net/groups/the-99-declaration-working-group/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Good deal. lets work all the open lines of communication.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 2 years ago

There's a call to vote on paying the non-refundable deposit for the Philadelphia venue at the above link. Send everyone you know to vote YES : ) thx

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Lets do it to it people. Copy & circulate, Facebook, Twitter or any-other way you know how. Lets get viral.

[-] 1 points by AFarewellToKings (1486) 2 years ago

my mistake, the vote takes place at the new site www.the99declaration.org but the site is down right now. Apparently they need to find new servers???

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks for the update.

[-] 5 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

Thinking of you "ALL" with love ( you know who you are ) :

Teach the Children. Take them by the hand and lead them.

We all love our children.

We want them to be happy and care free.

We want them to be healthy and well fed.

We want to see them adequately housed.

We want them to live in a peaceful and prosperous world.

We want them to grow-up strong and independent.

We want them to be able to defend themselves whenever necessary.

We want them to be able and willing to defend the helpless.

We want them to be good and to be responsible.

We want them to be flexible and not fragile.

These wishes for our children will not happen if we do not live up to these principles.

We need to work for a better tomorrow Today.

We need to fight greed and corruption in all it’s forms.

We need to demand, support and implement Green Technology.

We need to teach our children how to defend themselves and why they need to know how. There are plenty of monsters in the world. Sheltering them from this awareness does not help them to be safe and happy. Teach them what bullies are and why they need to stand up to them. Teach them to have confidence in themselves and in their abilities. Teach them the Golden Rule and help them to understand it. We don’t need to confirm or deny God because of the separation of church and state. But we do need to teach them good morals and good fellowship.

All this and more we need to do. We need to promote and support in our communities, in our World.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 months ago

Merry Xmas DKAt to you and yours & ...

pacem in terris ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

Pope Francis is something else - Hey?

Merry Xmas to you and yours {:-])

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 months ago

Happy, Merry holidays to you DK and all our posters, good bad and indifferent!

I hope all get a little family time too...........:)

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

Merry Xmas to you and yours {:-])

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4648) 8 months ago

Have a wonderful Holiday.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 8 months ago

Have a wonderful Holiday.

May we all experience a wonderful new year bearing burgeoning change for the better for all.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Thoughts for Today.

Old Post - but - still relevant.

[-] 3 points by francismjenkins (3713) 2 years ago

I'm reading this book on behavioral economics, and research indicates that honor codes in the workplace are actually effective in reducing workplace dishonesty. I haven't gotten to the psychological explanation yet, but if we extend this idea, I do think an honor code of some sort is important. It works fairly well in the military (although the "pissing" incident might not give that impression, but in reality 99% of servicemen and women are honorable).

So I think we need a new pledge of allegiance. Something more robust, which contains an honor code.

I pledge allegiance to human liberty, and our piece of this world, the United States of America. Human rights, dignity, helping my fellow man, equality, and democracy in all aspects of life.

Something like that .... although I'm not a poet (so maybe someone can add to this, and make it more powerful). I know it sounds like indoctrination, but society and culture always indoctrinates.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

It is morals 101. Our society needs to get back to supporting good moral values. But I do like the sound of the pledge.

[-] 2 points by OurTimes2011 (377) from Arlington, VA 2 years ago

1 Child homelessness in the United States is now 33 percent higher than it was back in 2007.

2 According to the National Center on Family Homelessness, 1.6 million American children "were living on the street, in homeless shelters or motels, or doubled up with other families last year".

3 The percentage of children living in poverty in the United States increased from 16.9 percent in 2006 to nearly 22 percent in 2010. In the UK and in France the child poverty rate is well under 10 percent.

4 A higher percentage of American children is living in poverty today than was living in poverty back in 1975.

5 The number of children living in poverty in the U.S. has risen for four years in a row.

6 There are 10 different U.S. states where at least one out of every four babies is born to a family living in poverty.

7 Since 2007, the number of children living in poverty in the state of California has increased by 30 percent.

8 According to the National Center for Children in Poverty, 36.4% of all children that live in Philadelphia are living in poverty, 40.1% of all children that live in Atlanta are living in poverty, 52.6% of all children that live in Cleveland are living in poverty and 53.6% of all children that live in Detroit are living in poverty.

9 In the United States today, more than 35 percent of all African-American children are living in poverty and more than 33 percent of all Hispanic children are living in poverty.

10 There are seven million children in the United States today that are not covered by health insurance at all.

11 Today, one out of every seven Americans is on food stamps and one out of every four American children is on food stamps.

12 It is being projected that approximately 50 percent of all U.S. children will be on food stamps at some point in their lives before they reach the age of 18.

13 In 2010, 42 percent of all single mothers in the United States were on food stamps.

14 There are 314 counties in the United States where at least 30% of the children are facing food insecurity.

15 In Washington D.C., the "child food insecurity rate" is 32.3%.

16 More than 20 million U.S. children rely on school meal programs to keep from going hungry.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks for the input. This is exactly the information that needs to be broadcast in the clear across these United States. Daily coverage until it is successfully addressed. Child fostering is not an answer either, taking children away from their family's is to be avoided unless the parent or parents are a danger to their children. Being poor is not a reason.

[-] 2 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 2 years ago

The ugly truth. America's wealth is STILL being concentrated. When the rich get too rich, the poor get poorer. These latest figures prove it. AGAIN.

According to the Social Security Administration, 50 percent of U.S. workers made less than $26,364 in 2010. In addition, those making less than $200,000, or 98 percent of Americans, saw their earnings fall by $4.5 billion collectively.

The incomes of the top one percent of the wage scale in the U.S. rose in 2010; and their collective wage earnings jumped by $120 billion. In addition, those earning at least $1 million a year in wages, which is roughly 93,000 Americans, reported payroll income jumped 22 percent from 2009.

Overall, the economy has shed 5.2 million jobs since the start of the Great Recession in 2007. It’s the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930’s.

Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. In 1928, the rich were already way ahead. Still, they were given huge tax breaks. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated 44 percent of all United States wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the lower majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed.

Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a public works program, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, some US wealth was gradually transferred back down to the majority. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. By 1976, the richest 1 percent held  less than 20 percent. The lower majority held the rest. And rightfully so. It was the best year ever for the middle and lower classes. This was the recovery. A partial redistribution of wealth.

Then it began to concentrate all over again. Here we are 35 years later. The richest one percent now own over 40 percent of all US wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes are sharing the rest. This is true even after taxes, welfare, financial aid, and charity. It is the underlying cause. If there is no redistribution, there will be no recovery. 

Note: A knowledgable and trustworthy contributor has gone on record with a claim that effective tax rates for the rich were considerably lower than book rates during the years of redistribution that I have made reference to. His point was that the rich were able to avoid those very high marginal rates of 70-90% under the condition that they invested specifically in American jobs. His claim is that effective rates for the rich probably never exceeded 39% and certainly never exceeded 45%. My belief is that if true, those effective rates for the rich were still considerably higher than previous lows of '29'. Also that such policies still would have contributed to a partial redistribution by forcing the rich to either share profits and potential income through mass job creation or share income through very high marginal tax rates. This knowledgable contributor and I agree that there was in effect, a redistribution but disagree on the use of the word.

One thing is clear from recent events. The government won't step in and do what's necessary. Not this time. Book rates for the rich remain at all time lows. Their corporate golden geese are heavily subsidized. The benefits of corporate welfare are paid almost exclusively to the rich. Our Federal, State, and local leaders are sold out. Most of whom, are rich and trying to get even richer at our expense. They won't do anything about the obscene concentration of wealth. It's up to us. Support small business more and big business less. Support the little guy more and the big guy less. It's tricky but not impossible.

For the good of society, stop giving so much of your money to rich people. Stop concentrating the wealth. This may be our last chance to prevent the worst economic depression in world history. No redistribution. No recovery.

Those of you who agree on these major issues are welcome to summarize this post, copy it, use any portion, link to it, save it, show a friend, or spread the word in any fashion. Most major cities have daily call-in talk radio shows. You can reach thousands of people at once. They should know the ugly truth. Be sure to quote the figures which prove that America's wealth is still being concentrated. I don't care who takes the credit. We are up against a tiny but very powerful minority who have more influence on the masses than any other group in history. They have the means to reach millions at once with outrageous political and commercial propaganda. Those of us who speak the ugly truth must work incredibly hard just to be heard.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you very much. Believe me, I will share this as best as I am able to.

History! Those who fail to learn from lessons of the past are destined to repeat them.

Who says that even if the government wanted to, that they could not intervene! Look at the air-traffic controllers strike and at how the government broke the strike by sending in troops to run air-traffic control.

The same could be done to any essential service group.

Consider: Who or what is in the strongest position to affect/implement fundamental change in our use of oil as a fuel/power source? A lot of the needed infrastructure already exists. We have got to stop killing the planet & ourselves. The government could step in just like with the air-traffic controller strike, and make an immediate change to how the fuel/power business is done. If the powers that be in the Oil industry will not take their obscene profits and use them towards such things as implementing Hydrogen fuel/power technology then perhaps "WE THE PEOPLE" should do it for them once we have regained the government "OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE".

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 2 years ago

All interesting points. I do agree with you that our government could make immediate changes in our best interest. If only they had the moral character to do so.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Exactly why "THE PEOPLE" need to retake government.

[-] 2 points by singlemom99 (57) from Bethlehem, PA 2 years ago

I've been reading this forum since day 1 and this might be the best post I've read. I agree 100%

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

For the children. Stop the pipe line. Support implementation of Hydrogen fuel & power instead. Real jobs ( not temp. ) for real people. Go 99%.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/action-alert-stop-the-end-run-on-the-keystone-xl-p/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you very much! May I hope that you will copy and circulate this post? Help it go viral as the kids say, Facebook, Twitter or other-ways ?

Maybe you might like this one a little bit too :

http://occupywallst.org/forum/do-i-have-a-heavenly-hope/

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

The forces of good, simply must reawaken in the human spirit, to supplant the forces of corruption and evil that have hijacked this planet

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

I apologize that I don't think lazy people should be given money for no reason.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

So the 1% are justified because they inherit fortunes, have trust funds, work-out a lot and spend a lot of time and energy yachting? Wow, other people should have so much initiative!

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

No the the supposed 99% movement should get out of their damned parks and either do something or get back to work.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

You life must be pretty damn boring.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

What are you talking about?

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

I don't hate anyone who has inherited fortune or have trust funds because I bet somewhere along the way, someone busted thier ass to make that possible for them. Isn't that what we are all trying to do? Make life easier for our children?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

. . . and everybody else's children go go to hell. Gotcha.

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

No and everybody else work just as hard to achieve the same thing. It's not going to be given to you.

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

I have never seen anyone work as hard as people from Mexico, and what have they got to show for it? American workers are one step away from that now, thanks to the concerted efforts of the 1% to turn the whole world into a slave labor camp. Don't give us that tired old worn out garbage. Nobodies buying that anymore Tinhorn.

God, what a good name for you, Tinhorn; an old, worn-out clarion of off-key, distorted noise!

[-] 0 points by Tinhorn (285) 2 years ago

I grew up in a pretty poor house hold in Upstate NY. Because I wasn't satisfied with that, I busted my ass, got educated and now, I do pretty well for myself. I am by no where near rich and have to tighten the financial belt every once in a while but all in all I have done ok. Why? Because I wanted more. Because I made sometihg of myself not because someone gave it to me or held my hand. You call it tired old crap, I call it the American Dream and I completly disagree that no one is buying it you see the evidence everyday that not only are they buying it but prospering as well.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

So lets help to awaken. Circulate these posts. Create and circulate others, Circulate/promote all good input.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Article 5 convention NOW!

Good overall strategy, but focus on priorities is important. At some point vital. Let's not let that pass before beginning.

[-] 1 points by livtru (11) 2 years ago

In your opinion, what are the priorities?

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Lobby the government. Your voice is a vote. Petitioning is lobbying. The Peoples Lobby. Take part, take action.

Forward environmental change. Your participation can make a difference.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/keystone_sotu/?id=33678-4904244-%3Dxzka6x&t=7

187,506 signatures so far for Bernie Sanders petition as of 9:48am central time 01/20/2012

http://sanders.enews.senate.gov/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=2100081904.557411.411&gen=1&mailing_linkid=34578

The petition to save abandoned houses has 16 signatures as of 01/20/2012. Were just rolling right along.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Savingpeople-savinghomes-payingdowntheNationaldeficit/

Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb

Sierra Club has some good things to take part in as well. Set-up and ready for you to take part in. http://sierraclub.org/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Take action. See samples of how below.

183,361 signatures so far for Bernie Sanders petition as of 10:15am central time 01/15/2012

http://sanders.enews.senate.gov/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=2100081904.557411.411&gen=1&mailing_linkid=34578

The petition to save abandoned houses has 15 signatures. We picked one up at around 9:50pm 01/13/2012. Were just rolling right along.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Savingpeople-savinghomes-payingdowntheNationaldeficit/

Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb

Sierra Club has some good things to take part in as well. Set-up and ready for you to take part in. http://sierraclub.org/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.

http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

For those of you just checking in.

Don't forget to petition the Justice Department to start prosecuting the economic criminals. There has to be accountability.

This is why we are here this is why you are needed.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/

Share, circulate, educate, inspire.

See also people from all walks of life, from all over the political map "not" supporting a party or leader or group of leaders but "supporting an Ideal".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Bgqt1YYko

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

This is why we are here this is why you are needed.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/

Share, circulate, educate, inspire.

[-] 1 points by OurTimes2011 (377) from Arlington, VA 2 years ago
  1. 48 percent of all Americans are either considered to be "low income" or are living in poverty.

  2. 57 percent of all children in the United States are living in homes that are either considered to be "low income" or impoverished.

  3. 77 percent of all U.S. small businesses do not plan to hire any more workers.

  4. There are fewer payroll jobs in the United States today than there were back in 2000 even though we have added 30 million extra people to the population since then.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

All of those points illustrate exactly why the Occupy & 99% movements are needed.

[-] 1 points by blazefire (947) 2 years ago

Thankyou! Unreal post...we need more like it! Keep up the good work!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks. Please feel free to copy & share/circulate.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

For the children. Stop the pipe line. Support implementation of Hydrogen fuel & power instead. Real jobs ( not temp. ) for real people. Go 99%.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/action-alert-stop-the-end-run-on-the-keystone-xl-p/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Not during the x-mas season or what?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Muscle Head?

Your Brain is like a muscle in that it too needs exercise!!!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thoughts anyone?

[-] 1 points by stuartchase (861) 2 years ago

The Revolution has a new theme song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L-GOHa5-YQ

http://occupywallst.org/forum/in-the-name-of-allah/

The Revolution starts here!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Talk about a slow night! Is everyone out shopping?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Don't like children ?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Fishing takes so much patience. I was told this was a good spot.

Oh well.... "they" say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

But..... I don't believe that "they" were considering Toxic build-up in the environment.

Funny thought though.... Though not Ha ha funny.

Who are "they" ?

[-] 1 points by CobyART5 (59) 2 years ago

Article 5 Convention Now!

I pulled this from one of my other posts. This is how you can get your wish for your children.

In getting familiar with the Article 5 Convention, I was especially drawn to the info regarding the "Greater Meaning of Free Speech" (GMFS) as an amendment to solidify the success that an Article 5 Convention would provide for us. Interesting as well, is that this is not a new concept in that it predates the Declaration of Independence.

Our freedom of speech has been dangerously chipped away at. To have the Greater Meaning of Free Speech etched back into our consciousness and our constitution for our children and our leaders to be protected, indeed encouraged to practice ~"forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."~ as the proposed amendment clarifies.

What mother would not want to ensure her child these freedoms and nurture from these core principles from the earliest stages of life. The GMFS can integrate beautifully into teaching values of positive and productive socialization by children as well as the truth to the people. How could the world's leaders go astray if taught this way, and then to know that they're constitutionally protected throughout their leadership terms, in fact bound by them to stay truthful by virtue of the people they govern having an integral role in keeping the rights of the people from ever straying off course again.

As a mom, my heart aches at how far we've been led away from these teachings. I fear that our country and our globe will not survive if we, one; do not get back to the importance of these fundamental values, and second; take the "Greater Meaning of Free Speech" and the Artcle 5 convention and secure our rights through the constitution.

http://algoxy.com/poly/meaning_of_free_speech.html

http://algoxy.com/ows/strategyofamerica.html

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thanks for that. Lets keep all of the good input circulating. Copy and post everywhere, facebook, Twitter anywhere & everywhere. Feed the world's consciousness.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Yes, preparation for Article 5 needs the "Greater Meaning of Free Speech" because people are too decieved. It is about assuring that speech and information for survival is shared and understood. Currently free speech is abridged. If we tried to conduct an article 5, which is the ultimate form of democracy, we would not have the info needed to make decisions.

It is revision of the 1st amendment, but in another more immediate frame it is preparation for convention.

http://articlevconvention.org/showthread.php?15-What-initial-amendments-will-improve-and-empower-the-conditions-of-a-convention

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

We want them to do nothing but sit on their butts and get fat.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Interesting perspective. Do I take it that you have children?

Or should I also ask : Sarcastic much?

[-] 2 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Yes very sarcastic and no I do not have children. I am only 16 and by most people's standards still a child. Just things I have noticed.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I'm glad that you don't have children yet. Some do at your age. I'm glad to see you taking an interest in whats going on in the world around you. I hope that we can create some positive change for your future.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Thank you I think. Am I right or wrong

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Right or Wrong about what?

If you mean my being glad that you don't have children yet, Then I mean to tell you that I am totally Serious. Having a child to raise is a huge responsibility at any age. I think you will appreciate having some more time and freedom just to be yourself and explore the world for a while before having kids.

If you mean about taking an interest in the world around you. I am also serious about that too, as many adults have opted out because of depression or disaffection I am glad to see someone of youth paying attention to the world in which they live.

I definitely hope we can make positive changes in this country and the world, for your future and mine as well.

[-] 1 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

I understand that you were serious about those points. I meant was I right or wrong about my original post.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That by most peoples standards that you are still a child? Many think that would be a true statement. I prefer to think that you are a young adult who is starting to take part in the world around you, even if by legal standards you can only mainly take part by observing. Some people mature faster then others and some people never do mature.

[-] 2 points by kingscrossection (1203) 2 years ago

Yes. Well I'm glad you think so. Most people on this forum just seem to lose respect as soon as I tell them that I am sixteen years old.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Well you have to cut some people some slack as they are extremely pissed-off and distracted at the moment. Always remember respect is not given it is earned. Don't tell someone how old you are just give them your input. Don't take it hard if you don't get immediate recognition either, just be persistent, be willing to learn, and keep on pitching, you will grow into it.

[-] 1 points by WorkerAntLyn (254) 2 years ago

Beautifully put.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you very very much.

Can I hope you will share this with others? Circulate towards going viral?

[-] 2 points by WorkerAntLyn (254) 2 years ago

I will do my best to do so.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

All I can say is thank you, and so I do.

Thank You

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Definitely a horror story about mishandling a mother's and a child's case. Made more horrifying by being between two country's judicial systems, who are not able or willing to communicate with each other. So the child ends up being abused by the Dutch. Sounds like something amnesty international would protest just on the grounds of maleficence let alone the abuse to the child in question. Where is the Hague on something like this? Again another black and white example of the wrong people being in positions of power.

[-] 1 points by simplesimon (121) 2 years ago

Cauliflower is nothing but cabbage with a college education

-- Mark Twain

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by simplesimon (121) 2 years ago

Oh, it's my little criminal stalker. Piss off.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

All of these concepts and more should be started/seeded in preschool and continue for life. Educate, dedicate and rededicate.

[-] 1 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

I agree with you that "our children" should be the most important thing in our lives and that they do represent our future.

I do think that we have to very careful about such statements as you make in "fight greed and corruption in all it's forms". From the point of view of a child, that best friend of theirs' who has all the latest electronics, etc may, if we as parents are not very careful, represent the very greed that we as adults see somewhere else. These types of actions by parents can promote the very worst kinds of prejudices in children. Think about how you would approach each of your statements and be careful what you tell others to do -- to promote actions that we see as the best interest of our children.

When I was in elementary school, my best friend had two older sisters who worked - so his Christmas gifts far exceeded anything that I could ever hope to receive - however - because of the way that he and his parents saw the world, I loved to go to his home and share in his bounty (toys, games, etc) and did not see the situation as having any relationship to greed whatsoever. He simply shared his good fortune with his friends and it was great for all. In this case, greed had nothing to do with having more - it had to do with what he did with what he had and he DID HAVE more and so did I.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That is part of the teaching process and our responsibility. Greed is not possessions it is how you came by them or not, teach the difference.

[-] 1 points by PandoraK (1678) 2 years ago

Greed isn't having, although method of obtainment maybe of issue, but basically greed or lack there of, is all in what is done with possessions once you have them.

Sharing, not giving away, but sharing is were greed ends and largess begins.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Good comment.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

Yes, but to a child, it may not be a matter of how another child got their possessions, but a matter of the fact that they do have them.

Many of the posts here are a very good example of the child's eye view of the world. They only see what they see and in many cases, as adults, this is even worse because they do not want to be taught how someone got what they have today - they only see the fact that they (corporations, CEO's, etc) have it.

How many of the people posting on these forums can say that they give over 10% of their annual profits to charity. Kroger does. Yet they are the biggest grocery chain in the USA and would be lumped into the 1% that are condemned repeatedly. Yes, we do need to "teach the difference" but not just to children but to adults also.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

You must stress the difference between greed and of having possessions. Having possessions can be fortunate depending on what they are and how they are used. Greed is a disease of the mind it is not useful in any way shape or form, it is unreasoning and destructive.

It would also be good to talk to your children about envy and jealousy.

All of these things will be experienced anyway, sooner or later, at school out in the community at a neighbors at work etc. The thing is to forewarn and educate to recognize and understand.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

In the most pure sense - yes I agree with you. We as a society have been teaching these things for hundreds of years. We have a built in teaching system in the form of nursery rhymns, children's stories and etc. And it is the responsiblity of the parent and even the school, if I may say so, to teach and reinforce all of this.

Does your school have a statement regarding morals education within the school system. If NOT, I would ask you why not. For the most part, we have eliminated this from our school systems and have substituted it with a watered down, feely system subject to the interpretation of each individual. That is why the 10 Commandments are not longer posted in public arenas - not even 5 of them dealing with this very thing that we want to stress.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That is the problem. With people being misguided about what their children should be taught and then manipulated to insist that it be removed from curriculum. Not enough people with common sense have spoken-out to prevent the degradation of our educational systems and subsequently the degradation of our society.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

I fully agree with what you just posted. As a Principal of a large school, we did have a statement regarding morals education. It was not a great idea at all, simply stated, there were 800 students and 200 staff that had to work together and there were certain standards that applied to everyone. It was not a matter of interpretation as to what was right and wrong - you simply did not hit another person, you did not steal etc. Once these basics were understood, everything else fit into place and it was a great place to work and to go to school.

It is sad, that todays society spends so much time picking apart the source of these morals and the implementation of them to the point that it ties everyone's hands (both teacher and student) and we see the degradation that you talk of.

[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 2 years ago

There's a wonderful lady, Charlotte Iserbyt, that I think you should meet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTIYd5UFRY

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Disturbing!!

No one should watch this unless, unless they know how to think for themselves and actually enjoy Thinking!!!!!!!!!!

Very Thought provoking. Thanks for sharing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezTIYd5UFRY

I Tweeted this link.

[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 2 years ago

You're most welcome.

Wonderful how grounded Ms. Iserbyt is despite her knowledge. Most people would be screaming from a mountain top to try and tell everyone. But I'm sure she knows that staying calm is the best way to keep credibility.

Yes! Tweet away!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago
[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 2 years ago

hehe! I needed that!

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Thank you. Glad I could give a light moment.

[-] 0 points by ronjj (-241) 2 years ago

I do not in any way support Federal Government intervention into the educational system of this country. Yet it is being pushed by various groups and organizations here and abroad. This is to be feared more that any corporation because it hits at the very heart of this nation and of its people - education is a contract between the parents and their school and should be nothing more than that. The Federal Government can promote certain goals (science, math, reading etc) but it has no business in telling the local schools how to met those goals.

[-] 1 points by sovaye (259) 2 years ago

The Department of Education is just one of the many departments that the federal government has gotten a stronghold on. The federal government has gotten far too big. It has grown into an insidious tentacled monster that we are being crushed under. Government needs to be smaller.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

These things are exactly why we need to reform/retake government. Continue to band together in support of good causes and copy & circulate all of the good input that we find. Help promote awareness and a rebirth of Humanitarian thoughts, beliefs, morals, disciplines.

[-] 0 points by FawkesNews (1290) 2 years ago

All this to say after the children have been fleeced by the children of the corrupt. What is the point of protecting children who will later suppress you? Some children are not as innocent as others.

[-] 0 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Green technology? Really.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Yes really. How else do you propose that we insure that they will have a healthy world in which to live?

[-] 0 points by MVSN (768) from Stockton, CA 2 years ago

Look past the propaganda. The technology doesn't exist at present and it won't exist for the forseeable future.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

That's pretty pessimistic. You need to do some internet searches on green tech. The main problem in this country working against implementation are the special interest groups that are manipulating government. Hence the OWS & 99% movements were born. There is even some implementation happening in the installation of solar cells and wind turbines. But even these minor concessions to green tech. implementation were hard fought for by the public.

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

People actually do not appreciate energy for what it is. They take it for granted often. Indigenous elders correctly point out that populations did not become a problem until the energy industry was established.

Media has twisted our values from those that encourage survival and evolution towards indulgence and temporary gain that all but ignores the deepest and most rewarding things.

Academia for about 20 years has neglected to teach a number of vital skills that could change the energy usages we know. You mention wind turbines and solar cells. I'm familiar with most systems and they all lack servicability without high tech entanglement unless big $ is spent, even then it's not servicable. In other words there are parallel undeveloped technologies to the ones we know that are lower tech and more servicable for us and can be conducted by a culture that keeps such simple machine technologies alive and functioning.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Good to know. We are here to make positive change so why don't you share on these parallel technologies. Lets get the word out and circulated.

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

They are well known in ways, just not developed. Storage of energy is a main aspect. Electrolysing water into hydrogen and oxygen to store separately then recombine has a decent efficiency ratio and there is no transmission loss or decay.

We've got the "hindenburg" syndrome about storing hydrogen, but really in many situations its perfectly safe. Another is the Faraday motor. It really is not understood as to what makes it rotate. Those are 2 main areas where academia could conduct meaningful research that a generation needs to be intimate with.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

I agree. I absolutely agree, and that is why it is important that we communicate all these things and advertise them however and where-ever we can. This stuff does not get the coverage and promotion that it should and so we need to do it whenever possible. Edumacate ( intentional ) the populace!

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Yes. I personally see that the web, .com is too divided up into small web sites and forums to provide a functional gathering spot for tech and science exchange that is functional. Energy is too important to have that status. Another reason I feel we must revise the 1st amendment and get the usenet back. There we can make national or global forums which can be easily searched for specific technical information and links to .com where technology can be purchased.

Such is actually part of a strategy I've developed.

http://algoxy.com/ows/strategyofamerica.html

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28285) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 years ago

Wow nice work. I hope everyone will take the opportunity to read and consider the contents. Again nice!

[-] 0 points by ChristopherABrownART5 (46) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Article 5 convention NOW! Herein I see a cognitive distortion at work. "Green technology" is a label applied to a way of thinking that includes the error that with renewables we can easily equal our currently energy usage. No, however, we really are not working very hard on conservation. "Green technology" implies an "all or nothing" thinking which is not correct either. Not all technology needs to be green. Some, always should be increasingly so.

Just our transporation excesses alone could have a huge economic benefit but there needs to be a massive refocus of what is important in our lives. Corporations have dictated our priorities through media manipulation to increase profits. Until that ends all arguments are moot. We are decieved helpless mass of consumers caught in the biggest scam that ever was.