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Forum Post: Credo Action Alert

Posted 1 year ago on Aug. 9, 2012, 7:24 a.m. EST by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT
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~ Credo Action Alert ~


Part of George W. Bush's legacy are laws that allow our government to trample our constitutional rights in the name of "national security."

First, after 9/11, there was the PATRIOT Act, which threw open the door to massive government spying. Then there was the FISA Amendment Act of 2008, which gave retroactive immunity to the telecoms that aided Bush's illegal wiretapping program.

The FISA Amendments Act also allowed government spy agencies to suck up and store vast amounts of electronic information about people on foreign soil who don't enjoy constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure afforded to American citizens.

In practice, however, loopholes in the law also allow massive amounts of warrantless spying on innocent Americans.

Progressive champion Sen. Jeff Merkley is trying to change that and rein in intelligence programs that are spying on Americans. And this week he introduced the Protect America's Privacy Act (S. 3515) to do just that.

I just signed a petition telling my senators to co-sponsor Sen. Merkley's Protect America's Privacy Act to end warrantless spying on Americans. I hope you will, too.

You can find the petition and more information at the link below.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

END government opacity

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

People should have voted for Kucinich in 2008 primaries. Not only was he the only man running in the primaries that voted no on all those bills.... but he also tried to impeach Bush.

When asked why he voted NO on the "Patriot Act" - Kucinich said "Because I actually read it"

Money in politics has created a dangerous game.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

HIs wife thinks there are aliens. She has my sympathy -

but there are no aliens.

Unfortunate or not, being that closely tied to such an outlandish belief system kinda makes him unelectable.

[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

lol you think aliens can't exist? That's your business.

Barack Obama believes a woman can give birth without having semen put into her vagina... he also thinks there is another realm for bad people when they die.

What does any of this have to do with the topic of discussion? Nothing. Nice diversion.

Unelectable means not being financed by the banks and corporations.

most people didn't know who Dennis was yet alone his wife's belief system. That has a lot to do with money in politics.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

It may be likely that there is moss somewhere, out there, in the universe.

But intelligent life? Capable of traveling light years to get here?

And what if they did? Would they look at us and exclaim: Humans! O How Adorable!

No they would not. One look and they would assure themselves, that it is imperative to give this planet as wide a berth as possible; either that, or extinguish the race of humanity as quickly as they may . . .

As for any particular man's - or a woman's - beliefs regarding spirituality, I have little to say - but I will note that in general, during the later half of the 20th century, behaviorists such as Leon Festinger developed a marked interest in the nature of belief, of prophecy, and in tandem with this uptick in research interest, the United States - and a few other select nations - noted a rise in


I do not find this to be coincidental - rather, it can most reasonably be said to be anecdotal evidence of the steadfast and obstinate refusal by researchers to adhere to those ten simple principles contained in the Nuremberg Code - despite the horrendous and devastating consequences both to their subjects, their industry, and society as a whole.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

How is someone's religious belief any different from someone's belief in alien existence in the universe?

Also none of this has anything to do with Dennis Kucinich or his perfect voting record.

You're doing what they did to him during the debates. You're trying to discredit him because of something that doesn't matter and you're phrasing it differently than the truth.

Also there have been a bunch of UFO's seen throughout history. Most of which just turn out to be new military technology being tested. UFO doesn't mean ALIENS. It means Unidentified Flying Object. Like the one that was photographed and shut down that airport in China and was covered all over the news. It turned out to be military testing.

Here is Elizabeth Kucinich talking about the issue - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3414086207023980524

What you said about her and what she states here are completely different. Why are you spreading misinformation? His wife thinks alien life in other galaxies is possible. Neither of the Kucinich's have said "aliens traveled here"

You have my sympathy for being so narrow minded on an issue.

Many people have seen UFO's. Doesn't mean they've seen aliens or think the UFO's are aliens. I saw a UFO when I was younger. It turned out it was a meteor or something that was passing through the sky that night that I was unaware of at the time I saw it.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I confess - I have not researched Ms. Kucinich or her views - I was basing my statement on second hand information - and I know better than to fall for the gop rumor mill. Shame on me.

I hate the entire culture of aliens. Something like 40 members of the Heaven's Gate Cult committed suicide on the basis of a belief in aliens. And one Art Bell had a guest on his radio show just one day before these suicides began, and that guest made statements supporting their faulty system of belief. I cannot say they heard these statements of support - most likely they did not need them. But they could have, and if they did it formed positive reinforcement for their plan of mass suicide.

The cult of aliens was not prevalent until the 20th century, and it's outset may be marked by two events - one an infamous radio show, and the other a research program involving V2 rockets seized in Germany and shipped to New Mexico, along with the Nazi Scientists responsible for the German program.

These were war criminals. They arrived here in violation of international treaty and federal law.

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

If you want to talk about mass suicides and murder... you should talk about religions in the name of a God.

You know many scientists at NASA think forms of alien life exists in the Univers and possibly even did or does on other planets in our galaxy.

One of the hopes of the Curiosity rover is to find traces of bacteria or possibly even fossils

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Is it really necessary that I repeat myself?

Can you not read the first sentence I wrote, here?

If you want to talk about mass suicides and murder... you should talk about religions in the name of a God.

Why? Under most religions murder and mass suicide are forbidden. those so engaged today should and must be condemned - and can be condemned on the basis of their own texts.

Too few today stand up and insist that these researchers and their research be examined, that they be held accountable, when it can be shown they have violated their professional ethics, having engaged in research resulting in the death of their own test subjects.

Why would you distract from such a pressing and contemporary issue, with matters of ancient history?

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

You went on this weird rant in your previous comment where you talk about "culture of aliens" and categorized it with mass suicide and the Nazis.

Which is why I said what I said.

To lump the "culture of aliens" into a category like that is wrong.


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Signed and tweeted.

What I added to the petition:

Protect the individual rights of the people. It is time and long past time that the terror propaganda stops being used on the American Public to have them let their rights and freedoms taken away.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 1 year ago

Signed and tweeted. Love threads like this. Good show, Zen.