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Forum Post: create an internet simultaneous debate on the net for 3rd party candidates

Posted 12 years ago on Aug. 28, 2012, 8:43 p.m. EST by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA
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this could be bounced across the mainstream media

The Maggie Phair Institute hosted an American Third Party Presidential Debate on April 21, 2012 in Los Angeles, CA.

The Maggie Phair Institute hosted an American Third Party Presidential Debate on April 21, 2012 in Los Angeles, CA.

apparently it already happened

however. I think the could gather more attention if they parallel the 2 party presidential debates


however. debates parallel to the other 2 party debates may garner more attention

October 3, 2012 Obama/Romney Topic: Domestic policy

October 16, 2012 Obama/Romney Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy

October 22, 2012 Obama/Romney Topic: Foreign policy

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[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago
[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

I e-mailed

The Maggie Phair Institute hosted an American Third Party Presidential Debate on April 21, 2012 in Los Angeles, CA.

yesterday no reply yet

[-] 1 points by kaiserw (211) 12 years ago

I agree it's a good idea, but you'll get absolutely no help from the mainstream media. Just look at the style and distorted and sheer lack of coverage to Ron Paul's attempt. Chris Hedges has long criticized that the US media has become pure propaganda, and that nearly all of the media has been taken over by several crony corporations.

It would be a very hard battle, and unfortunately the masses of American people are generally not awake to what is going on. They will only awaken with more pain and more time.

We all have to be ready to embrace those that finally take the red pill, and wake up to the terrifying and lonely world around them.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

they would be harder to ignore

if they present the debates simultaneously,

the media is also looking for opinions after a debate

challenges could make news

[-] 1 points by kaiserw (211) 12 years ago

It might be worth a shot. Action is better than inaction.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

I like that idea. Maybe the debate should be simultaneious but just 10 minutes later to address/counter the specific canned comments of the duopolistic candidates.

And I suppose we will have Jill Stein, the justice party guy, maybe Ron Paul (if not him maybe a stand in?). Who else?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

Gary Johnson presidential campaign, 2012

Johnson declared his candidacy for the Libertarian Party nomination on December 28, 2011 at a press conference in Santa Fe, New Mexico.[1] The announcement followed his withdrawal from his previous candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination, which he had announced on April 21, 2011.[2] Johnson won the nomination at the May 5, 2012 convention in Las Vegas on the first ballot.[3] Judge James P. Gray of California is his running mate.

Governor of New Mexico 1995–2003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_independent_presidential_candidates,_2012

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Ok! I'm with you. Let's do it. How about sending email to the 3rd party candidates to see if they are willing to debate each other.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

where should this counter debate be?

I'm thinking New York for public space

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Well since it is on the internet they don't even have to be together. but that might prove to technically costly/difficult. I think it should be in a less hated state (NY has wall st, and MSM) How about Texas?. it is in the center of the country (geographically, if not ideologically)

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

a debate in a public place should not be that expensive

and that would bring a audience

Texas does not have the name recognition of Wall Street or MSM

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Whatever you think Boss. Your Idea. I think NYC is the greatest city on earth and I might be able to attend so... Thats ok with me.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

Rocky Anderson might be willing to hold the debates in Salt Lake City

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Yuch!. If you say so. I support the idea wherever you decide to hold it.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

wherever we can find a group to run it

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Gather support! Keep this post up high! Contact the candidates, figure the cost, can we raise money here? Maybe kickstarter? Do you have tech knowledge? if not you should find a techie!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

kickstarter reads that it promotes art projects

we might be able to bill the event as theater

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

I think they are pretty flexible, however there are other crowd sourcing sites.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

kickstarter has been knocking at my door

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Great. use them to raise money!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

we need a stage and equipment . What else?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Well if it is internet then we only need a large room. No audience necessary. But if you prefer a stage there may be a way to get a small theatre to donate their space.

Maybe craigslist?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

a live crowd would attract attention

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

It could. I agree. a little more challenging logistically but not impossible.

The location might be more important since you do want to get that theater full. A place that supports 3rd party action would be good.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

except perhaps that New York has been done

perhaps Ohio

wherever the debate, it should be a large public event

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

Ohio is good too.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

I thought so

though that is a swing state

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

No matter. Sounds like you wanted a national internet audience. No?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

true

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

You have a great idea. Someone may have thought of it already. Have you searched online for it.?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

The Maggie Phair Institute hosted an American Third Party Presidential Debate on April 21, 2012 in Los Angeles, CA.

apparently it already happened

however. I think the could gather more attention if they parallel the 2 party presidential debates

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 12 years ago

LoL. Regardless. YOU have a good idea. And I believe you cannot have too many debates. Perhaps you can contact the group and get info on how it was done.

The other thing is maybe there is a stream of it we could link to and encourage people to watch. We could go to the 2 parties wensites and add the link with a comment.

Whatta ya think? Is there a video on line of it.?

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 12 years ago

If one were trying to break into radio, one way would be to take a political event like a debate and replay it, but pausing after each comment to offer an analysis.

However, many listeners are usually interested in commentary that takes a side and sticks with that side on most issue, and that is the inherent problem with media in general and the listeners who listen.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

ha

I would want to hear many sides just for a change of pace

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 12 years ago

There is the common sense coalition on facebook, they appear to be trying that approach. There is also another facebook group that is neither republican or democrat.

I liked these groups on my debt neutrality facebook page, so if you go to www.facebook.com/debtneutrality you can find some groups that are not hard edged in one direction or the other, or so they claim anyways.

Apparently one cannot link to their own group page from here. So one would have to go to facebook and type in debt neutrality.

[-] 0 points by engineer4 (331) 12 years ago

While a good idea, one needs to remember that not all have access. All debates should be live streamed besides being only on msm networks (if not already). What is meant by " bounced across the mainstram media"?

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 12 years ago

the news media has access

we should give them the opportunity to find other responses