Forum Post: Conglomerate and DG&RC Topic References
Posted 11 years ago on Dec. 24, 2012, 12:35 a.m. EST by Kavatz
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from Edmonton, AB
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Skip the fluff, go to the heading "DG&RC: Manifestation of Departmental Governance".
"I've only done a fraction of Departmental Governance (DG) so far, mostly because we won't be ready for it for a while. Steps need to be taken first, specifically the rise of the 99% Conglomerate. This special corporation, destined to devour capitalism and die with it, is necessary to convince 99% of the population that THEY are the 99%. That's the problem... political parties and elections are tools for control, keeping people separated, unable to unite. The Conglomerate can eventually turn all entrepreneurs (not including the 1%), employees and consumers into supporters of the movement. Follow the links at the bottom of the main topic posts to get back to Topic References. With the Topic References in one place, I can bounce around editing while keeping organized. You'll find there's already a lot to read about there, but maybe start with the Conglomerate. I look forward to your criticism and maybe even participation." (Referenced in http://occupywallst.org/forum/545-elected-officials-in-us-government/#comment-918890 )
Asking you: What is the #1 problem
FAQs - Mainly for my own purposes, look at these if you're really that bored
http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-can-socialists-and-capitalists-agree-on-the-99/
Will workers still be treated poorly and get paid the same low wages, and will there still be poverty? Will the conglomerate become as influential, greedy and evil as any corporation? Can the conglomerate hoard wealth?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/beat-them-at-their-own-game-the-99er-conglomerate/#comment-900434
http://occupywallst.org/forum/problems-ill-explain-how-the-99-conglomerate-can-s/#comment-919883
Any grand or modest effort for radical change NEEDS compassion and care, not anger, deceptive, self-centered greed or ambition.
Gar Alperovitz: "But I think it is just possible, maybe, if we are serious, and actually want to talk about systemic change, in real terms rather than rhetoric, and actually draw on the traditions of this country and our own imaginations, just possibly we can establish the foundations of the next system, that takes us beyond traditional corporate capitalism, traditional state socialism, and that builds a new vision that ain't like any of the other ones but is really a democratic society..."
Offering #1: Recommended Resources
Beat them at their own game: The 99% Conglomerate
Close model for the Congomerate
The Conglomerate becomes Libertarian Socialism
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-99-conglomerate-may-be-the-best-strategy/ ; http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/no-one-can-dispute-it-does-that-mean-everyone-agre/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/problems-ill-explain-how-the-99-conglomerate-can-s/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-99-conglomerate-has-acquired-two-future-subsid/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/solution-superiority-99-conglomerate-has-no-rival/
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Inception-phase planning links
Constitution of the Conglomerate
Democracy at Work
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/conglomerate-and-democracy-at-work/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/whats-next-for-the-movement-a-discussion-on-strate/#comment-872897 )
Libertarian Socialism (Left-Libertarianism)
Can't just flip the switch, just ease it in
DG&RC: Manifestation of Departmental Governance
http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-to-govern-a-modern-nation/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/dgrc-manifestation-of-departmental-governance/
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/why-i-am-here/#comment-915866
http://www.occupywallst.org/forum/departmental-governance-is-libertarian-socialism/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/governance-and-politics-in-a-post-99-conglomerate-/
Some elements of the system
DG&RC: Manifestation of Responsible Capitalism
http://occupywallst.org/forum/dgrc-manifestation-of-responsible-capitalism/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/responsible-capitalism-identifying-irresponsible-e/
Essential Services
Conglomerate Website
I do like the idea of developing through multipe resources. The ideas that are set upon need people. Who are these people? How is the money allocated? What is the driving factors of being selected? Can this money come from other sources other then peole? What skills are needed for what is picked to develop such a SME? Are we able to work beyond borders?
As you can see I have a lot of questions. I have some ideas and many skills. I wish to put them to use in a prosperous way for my family.
Sorry my answers aren't as thoughtful as I would have liked. It might work better if you post questions on their respective posts/links.
I can't reveal their identities without their consent.
Money is not allocated. Can you rephrase the question?
What do you mean by "selected"?
Are we talking about the 99% Conglomerate here, or some facet of DG&RC?
SMEs are anyone who wants to (or is paid to) further the interests of their organization.
The 99% Conglomerate is becoming international as we speak, with subsidiaries from Canada, US, Mexico and Australia joining. I'm looking forward to seeing your subsidiary on the Directory in minutes, as that's about as much time at it should take to join.
We'll talk more and work on developing your understanding of this big mess of ideas I've been dumping over the last two months here.
It will always be a good time to plant. I am a person that has little time and to follow links is not possible. So from my perspective it is way too much information. I do see that plenty of avenues are being sought and we are all destined to the same place. Change is the only necessity to live.
No one really has time. With all there is to see, do and read, I don't expect a large readership.
All the links point to other posts on this forum, and the posts all end with a link back to here. I personally don't like reading and skipped as much school as possible. I hear what you're saying.
Simple works I am not sure many people have what it takes to intake so much detail and react in light. Like a mantra that breaks the media trance.
I'm here because it's much busier than the forum in my city. I was thinking of posting the idea on other forums and linking back to here.
There is always hope an avid reader will stumble on this and really get it.
Maybe I don't like reading much but I do it anyway. Partly because if you don't read, you have nothing new to talk about and little to contribute.
This is coming right along. Now that most of the topics have been at least partially addressed, I can run through it all again to elaborate, clarify and tie up some loose ends.
Please try to dispute these ideas, or is the logic undeniable? If you don't, some significant weaknesses or opportunities might get missed early on. It's easier to uproot a small oak tree. I've heard the best time to plant one is 20 years ago... and the second best time is now.