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Forum Post: The 99% Conglomerate has "acquired" TWO future-subsidiaries ALREADY!!!

Posted 7 years ago on Feb. 14, 2013, 2:18 a.m. EST by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB
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OK, at this stage in the game, the subsidiaries are not really officially "acquired". It's more of a pledge of allegiance in Phase 1. When Phase 2 happens, these brave entrepreneurs will choose to continue or not.

I've posted this here and there:

"It is your duty as a consumer and entrepreneur to create a subsidiary, have the Conglomerate acquire it, and promote wealth and prosperity for the 99% in your community and worldwide."

Please help if you can, or if you're not sure how to get started, help is right here.

Back to Topic References: http://occupywallst.org/forum/conglomerate-and-dgrc-topic-references/



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[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 7 years ago

There was a guy on this forum that was advocating and recruiting for a kind of community or commune bank. It sounded a little risky from the trust point of view ... but in a sense why not have community start their own banks or credit unions and hire some local people to run it for them. I guess that is what Credit Unions do...

I guess I have to read and follow links to see what point of view this post has .... sounds a little weird to start a subsidiary as a patriotic duty to sell to a conglomate. Irony. Tounge in Cheek. Absurd.

But really many people don't like authority. I drive to a bank for a service and see a banker scowling at me or at my car since it is old and unwashed. Obviously I am a ne'er do well.

Who wants to bank with a company that scowls at customers. Or use any business that scowls at bearded or long haired customers in simple clothes.

But if you say OWS wants to start a brand of corporation that will be socially active or be a social activist ... maybe that is interesting.

[-] 2 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

It will be very easy to get the wrong impression about what's going on here and intentions. I often have to repeat responses to like-minded pessimists, so I linked the Topic Refetences post to common thoughts (mostly for my benefit).

Feel free to ask questions or criticize anything.

I'm not sure what you mean by "sell to a conglomerate".

There are no plans for commune-type structure or profit sharing. If a financial institution does develop, it will be much further down the road. There are currently no plans to go there yet, though I wouldn't wish to avoid it if the conglomerate's subsidiary owners choose that path.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 7 years ago

Oh, it is simply a networking effort for the 99% to list their business with a kind of OWS website? Yeah, I was way off on the commune wording.... I looked a little at the links.

I will try to look for the logo in the future on future posts to see what it looks like... Not sure how to post images on a post here in this forum.

[-] 2 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

Not sure how to post images here either. If you're referring to Subsidiary logos, you'll find them as they get uploaded at the link I posted at the top.

Sure, it's a network of businesses, but not simply that. The long term plan is to consume capitalism and die with it, ushering in a new age of systemic change.

I've got my fingers crossed for a certain variance of libertarian socialism, but that will ultimately be for the Conglomerate to decide. The 99% Conglomerate has three main phases planned, transitioning from our current brutal capitalism to a more responsible one, and then going beyond capitalism altogether.

I hope you've got a business idea and are willing to make it a success with the Conglomerate. If not, I hope you will at least follow the link to join and receive the regularly updated and distributed Subsidiary Directory (you check a checkbox after joining to subscribe to the Ad Recipients list).

Supporters of the Occupy movement will be motivated to support Subsidiaries in their community and beyond. Those in the 99% who aren't yet willing to admit it will be guilt-tripped into supporting Subsidiaries, and harshly condemned for supporting the 1%, given the choice.

I'm willing to help you get started in any way I can. Send me a private message... maybe I can come up with ideas fit for your situation if nothing comes to you right away.

[-] 2 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

Want to know how to be a part of this?

Here's an easy example:

Take a pic of a marble. Use it for your Logo (subsidiary avatar when joining the group) and say your business is trading marbles! Anything that simple will do.

If you cut hair, organize Tupperware parties, urinate on lemon trees... you can be a subsidiary owner and own a share of the 99% Conglomerate.

I would be happy to help you with ideas or any steps along the way.

A wise lawyer would get started right away, and as I said before, a lawyer subsidiary will eventually be swamped with business (in any specialization). The Conglomerate will eventually need the services of good lawyers, web/mobile app developers, etc.

[-] 0 points by penguento (362) 7 years ago

Interesting development. Might I inquire as to what these two subsidiaries are? I don't see a link to them, or any adverts for them. We can scarcely be expected to support them if we don't know who they are.

[-] 2 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

Oh, sorry, I thought the link above would take you there but it just takes you to the Join page. Try this one: https://secure.groupspaces.com/group/99Conglomerate/

Look under the Members tab.

[-] -2 points by penguento (362) 7 years ago

hmmm . . . looks like they're just getting started. Not much there yet.

[-] 2 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

That's why the post says 2 already.

[-] 0 points by penguento (362) 7 years ago

Ah, I meant detail on the subs themselves. I was curious about what sort of ventures they might be undertaking. Any idea?

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

One is residential snow removal and the other might be produce (peaches?), but not totally sure. You could join the group and receive regular Subsidiary Directory emails by subscribing to the Ad Recipients distribution list. Or come up with a Subsidiary of your own and be on the Directory.

You should be able to find out more about subsidiaries by clicking on their member profiles.

Please join!

[-] 0 points by penguento (362) 7 years ago

I might just do that. These sort of non-traditional micro-businesses might be the way to go. There's been a guy in Denver for decades who's only business presence was a teenie little ad in a local free weekly newspaper: "Poop Van Scoop -- We pick up where the dog left off." The paper had been running that ad for years without knowing anything about who ran it or why, so they decided to do a story on it and sent out a reporter. Turns out it was a guy and his wife, and just like the ad, it was a business picking up the dog crap from your yard. It turns out to have been a very successful business -- they'd bought a house and raised a family on the profits, and were doing quite well. And they started it with virtually no investment -- they used a beat up old hippie van they already had, and the only other thing they needed was a couple of scoops and some trash bags. And the ads in the rag -- their only advertising of any kind for 20 years -- cost them maybe 30 bucks a month. A tour de force of savvy marketing and businessmanship.

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

That's awesome! Poop Van Scoop would have been an ideal Subsidiary for the 99% Conglomerate.

Is there anything holding you back? Can I convince you to hop aboard sooner than later? Can we talk about anything in particular? I haven't thought of anything good you can lose (or bad you can gain), but that's a good reason to talk. I want to see this thing gain momentum fast, and pull out roots (issues) while they're small.

[-] 1 points by penguento (362) 7 years ago

Three potential issues: First, we're actually one of those workers' cooperatives that everybody around here talks about, so I can't sign up for anything without getting a consensus that it's what we should do. We're small, so that's by no means impossible, but it takes a bit of time, since people live in different parts of the country.

Second, ours is a traditional business in a traditional space. And, our client base is frequently bigger businesses, sometimes very big businesses. I'm not sure that's who you want on board for this. I'm not sure your other members would either support us or have a need for what we do.

Third, we're all inclusive, just like you're supposed to be around here. Some of us -- me included - are commie wackos. Others are very conservative, Christian Republicans. I'm sure you'll appreciate the politics of that when it comes to something like this.

All that said, there are some things we do and know that might be pretty valuable to your other members, so maybe we form another organization for that purpose.

Let me think about it and talk to the folks.

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

Another thing I may not have mentioned is the Conglomerate is all for Workplace Democracy, worker ownership, etc. In fact, Phase 3 focuses on acquiring (consuming) larger irresponsible capitalist entities and transforming them into such organizations. It's planned to be very strategic and left-libertarian. Important to understand this doesn't mean Phase 1 and 2 Subsidiaries have to change the way they operate - just the corporations we despise.

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

Oh, interesting, looking forward to follow-up on that.

What about an unrelated personal thing unique to you, not involving the rest of your organization?

It might be a good trial run proof of concept?

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 7 years ago

Sorry, I should have realized what you meant.