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Forum Post: Chris Hedges is Voting Green, But I’m Voting For Obama – Here’s Why

Posted 2 years ago on Nov. 2, 2012, 1:33 a.m. EST by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR
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Chris Hedges is Voting Green, But I’m Voting For Obama – Here’s Why

Author: Taradacktyl

Joe Biden debate quote:

Normal people (non-Republicans) know that despite the incessant right wing propaganda labeling the President with the charge of “socialist,” Barack Obama is far from even being a liberal. But I’m voting for him on Election Day. Here’s why.

Why I’m Voting For President Obama

First, a little background on the letter you’re about to read: People who read this site know I’m a friend and fan of kick-ass radio host Mike Malloy (you’re not a Malloy podcast subscriber? What are you waiting for?) A week before the Presidential election, Mike read Chris Hedges’ Column titled, Why I’m Voting Green on his show… and I felt I had to respond. Mike then read my response on the Thursday, October 31st “Mike Malloy Show.” I received a few emails and requests on the RDT Facebook page for a copy of the email… so here it is:

Hi Mike,

The devastation from Hurricane Sandy is astounding but I’m one of the few, fortunate, people in NYC. Though last night was pretty hair raising, I’m on high ground in Queens and never lost power…. so this morning, I was able to listen to the podcast from last night.

I wanted to respond to the Chris Hedges piece you read on the air, especially after I had just shared with you that I spent the last couple of days phone-banking at Obama headquarters – something I said I wouldn’t do – until the very real threat of a Romney presidency made me change my mind.

I agree with Hedges. We live in a nation where the “corporate state has successfully waged a campaign of fear to disempower voters and citizens.” But I don’t see how voting for Obama and confronting “the structures of corporate power” are mutually exclusive.

Obama isn’t the root of all evil – he’s a product of it. The root evil coursing through our body politic is MONEY.

I plan on continuing to fight that evil – but I also have to live in this country in the here and now.

Hedges is right. Real “change” always comes via political movements outside the power structure. History and reality show us that.

This is why I’m involved with progressive movements (such as Occupy) and will continue to lend my energy to similar vital causes. I will continue to fight from the outside. I will do these things as I vote for Obama without an ounce of guilt.

You see, I’m a member of the working class. I have to LIVE – on the ground – in this corrupt, corporate, system… and I’m not willing to watch the baby-steps of progress be undone “on day one” by a Republican president. Given the options, I will do what little I can to stop it.

(Whether the Republicans steal it will be revealed on Election Day – that’s another conversation altogether). But it seems Hedges thinks we can’t try to maintain the little progress we’ve gained AND build a political movement as a counterweight to corporate power at the same time.

He might be right if we all simply choose to vote and go home, but voting is just the least we can do. Activists know that the real work takes place every day – not just Election Day. We just don’t vote and go home. Our job is to scream and yell to educate and wake up the people who do think their work is done.

I do understand Hedges’ vote, given his lawsuit against the Administration’s National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Trust me. I appreciate his advocacy to protect the Constitution and was happy to hear that the lawsuit was successful. I’m well aware that his victory was a victory on behalf of all citizens. But he dismisses progress that doesn’t affect him personally too easily. It must be easy for Hedges, as a straight, white, male, to flippantly write, “Obama, whatever his proclivity on social issues, has provided ample evidence that he will not alter his servitude to the corporate state.”

“Whatever his proclivity on social issues?”

Gee. Once again women and the lgbt community get thrown under the bus. What a surprise.

Hedges doesn’t know what it’s like to be a gay person wearing the uniform of this country during “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” I do.

He doesn’t know what it’s like to be a woman forced to continuously bear the assault of daily misogynist Republican attacks on female autonomy. I do.

I also know about student loans… what it’s like to live without health insurance… and could only imagine what would have happened to my family if we didn’t have Medicare to help pay for my father’s Alzheimer’s care.

Which is why in between having to work for a living, I will be there any time we need to shine a light on the crimes of the military industrial complex … and… rather than getting a good night’s sleep or vegging out in front of the TV… after working all day and pursuing my comedy career at night… I spend my limited free time writing and creating graphics for RepublicanDirtyTricks.com - trying to educate my fellow Americans about what’s happened to their country and how we must band together to reclaim it for the people.

But, it seems pretty naive to me, on one hand, for Hedges to lament that our fellow citizens are propagandized victims of the corporate state and, on the other hand, demand these same propagandized dupes rise up and throw off the shackles they don’t even realize are restraining them.

That seems just as unrealistic as that “Occupy Vision” which called for “no cops,” “a non hierarchical society” and “the end of the monetary system.” Sorry. That’s not going to happen today. Let’s work to get money out of politics first… and let’s try as hard as we can to not lose the slim gains we’ve made by voting for a candidate who, although a product of the corrupt system, won’t completely slit our throats. Trust me. If Jill Stein had a realistic shot, I would be all in. But I operate in the Reality-Based Community.

Frankly, as you read the Hedges article on the air, I also kept thinking of your words: “unless you’re a member of a targeted group, Fascism isn’t so bad.”

You see, I do live in this nation as a member of a targeted group.

It must take “courage” for Chris Hedges, as straight, white male, to adamantly dismiss Obama’s “proclivity on social issues” and try to overthrow corporatism in one election via one Quixotic protest vote.

After all, when Hedges was a member of a targeted group – journalists – he went to court to fight it. Sadly, he seems so dismissive of the social gains we’ve made and so condescending towards our desire to maintain them. I suppose he’s comforted by the fact he doesn’t have to worry about rising incidences of violence against the lgbt community when we once again have a President who pushes Constitutional amendments and rallies his mob around the hatred for gays.

I also find it ridiculous for Hedges to skewer subservience to the corporate state as he simultaneously dismisses the importance of the Supreme Court that armed it with “Citizen’s United.”

Yes. Obama is a corporatist. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Sorry Mr. Hedges is so disappointed. Me too.

But the New Gilded Age didn’t happen overnight and it isn’t going away overnight either. So unless Mr. Hedges is advocating bloody revolution to overthrow this corporate oppression, his feckless “protest vote” seems more like political equivalent of “the mouse that roared.”

You know me, Mike. I hope to live to see the day where we truly have a government and society that works for all. I WILL CONTINUE to push my country from the outside through political movements and I will spend the rest of my life working to make the dream of an economically vibrant and politically free middle class come to fruition… In the meantime, I will fight to maintain our gains. I’m still voting for Obama…. And will STILL meet you at the barricades.

Your Friend, Tara

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The readers of RepublicanDirtyTricks.com know that despite the name, when warranted, RDT is just as critical of Democrats, has often railed against President Obama and will continue to do so after he is (hopefully) re-elected. The goal of this site is to shine a light on the class war against working people in all its forms – especially when it comes from the party that has traditionally positioned itself as the advocate of the working class. True activists know that real political change comes from outside the system. Remember to vote – but also remember to stay active! The future economic-vibrancy and freedom of the middle class depends on it!

I hope you Unicorn Chasers and Both-Samers ~ the ones not working for Cons to suppress the Vote ~ read this carefully.

If we turn out, we win. If we don't turn out, the 1% wins. VOTE!!!

http://republicandirtytricks.com/chris-hedges-is-voting-green-but-im-voting-for-obama-heres-why/

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[-] 5 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Want to know another awesome Joe Biden quote?

"We have to eliminate Saddam"

Some other quotes

"I think Saddam either has to be separated from his weapons or taken out of power."[48] Biden also supported a failed resolution authorizing military action in Iraq only after the exhaustion of diplomatic efforts,[49] Biden argued that Saddam Hussein possesses chemical and biological weapons and is seeking nuclear weapons;[50] he subsequently voted in favor of authorizing the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Now both Obama and Romney have said a nuclear Iran will not be tolerated and military action is possible if they don't meet US demands.

Thinking these guys are peace?

How many countries do you have to bomb before people get outraged? Is 6 not enough?

[+] -6 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

So you are taking off the mask and revealing your true TROLL nature. Like coming out of the closet. It must be a great weight off your shoulders.

[-] -3 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Don't worry, different strokes for different folks! Honesty is the best policy!

So what, you're a Con Zombie. We probably caught it in time to save a lot of lives. Cuz, it's not just about you, it's about America.

GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!

[-] 7 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Just doing what I can to spread the message that THEY're trying to start another war based on lies in Iran.

If you want to call me a republicon zombie for opposing warmongering in Iran and bombing 6 countries in one term.... then that's your weird realm.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Hear that? That's my Devil made him do it, Con Zombie, sympathy violin. You can get it on Bluetooth and WiFi with your "Casio" brain.

"But the New Gilded Age didn’t happen overnight and it isn’t going away overnight either. So unless Mr. Hedges is advocating bloody revolution to overthrow this corporate oppression, his feckless “protest vote” seems more like political equivalent of “the mouse that roared.”

GET OUT THE VOTE!!

[-] 5 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

Hedges is suggesting that people vote for people that have better stances on civil liberties and foreign and economic policies...

So he is getting out the vote.

[+] -5 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

If you think Rombot and Obama are the same on the economy, civil rights and foreign policy, you're Right Wing Nuts.

But if you want to make a "Both-Same," Utopian, Unicorn Chase "Statement," this is not the time.

Can't afford that "Statement" in this political reality! Rombot will be Bush on 'roids.

Millions in lives and treasure lost forever from just 500+ "Statements" in Florida 2000!! (Do I really have to remind you?)

Let's learn from ~ and never repeat ~ that "Both-Same" fucking blunder!!!

Remember, Vote down ballot, too!!

City, County, and State: GET OUT THE VOTE!!

[-] 6 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Both bomb people. Both let the banks run wild. And both are intent on stripping rights, as evidenced by the legislation they have signed (Romney Im going off of Bush).

Glad to see you still think Gore, who sat by idle while Clinton bombed people, signed GATT and NAFTA (which shoved it right up the unions asses) and repealed Glass STeagall (which led to the housing collapse) would actually stand up and say we shouldnt attack Afghan and Iraq (again).

Hysterical. Your guy Obama is going to win. and when he does, the DOW is going to surge because thats their guy. He's already proven that. And you claim to be Occupying Wall St. What a hypocrite.

Please read this: http://occupywallst.org/article/ows-updates-week-october-24th/

Then you will know what site you are on, and will stop trying to coopt it. Ii though most of you Dem hacks gave up on that by now? Are you typing all of this from one of Obama's QE 1,2,3 satellite offices? Or are you a Romney guy who simply wants us to look like msm idiots? Because I expect your garbage on CNN/FOX, but not from people with a brain living in the real world.

[+] -6 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Fuck you Con Zombie weasel!!

We're here to end the 1% tyranny over the 99%!

That means getting 1% Cons out of our government ~ Local, City, State and Fed!!

No more keys to tyrannical and proven deadly GOPs!!

Learn from our past, Cons did: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15142

[-] 3 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Funny how you showed up right after Labor Day, when campaign season kicks into full gear haha.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Here before you.

Doing this before you came back to life.

[-] 3 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Why the new handle? And I would prefer people campaign rather than just bitch and complain, although I think your time would be better served with Justice or Green or whatever floats your boat.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

The Nation Published on The Nation (http://www.thenation.com)

Mitt Romney's Bailout Bonanza Greg Palast | October 17, 2012

(AP Photo/Evan Vucci)   This investigation was supported by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute and by the Puffin Foundation. Elements of it appear in Palast’s new book, Billionaires & Ballot Bandits: How to Steal an Election in 9 Easy Steps (Seven Stories). Research assistance by Zach D. Roberts, Ari Paul, Nader Atassi and Eric Wuestewald.   Mitt Romney’s opposition to the auto bailout has haunted him on the campaign trail, especially in Rust Belt states like Ohio. There, in September, the Obama campaign launched television ads blasting Romney’s November 2008 New York Times op-ed, “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.” But Romney has done a good job of concealing, until now, the fact that he and his wife, Ann, personally gained at least $15.3 million from the bailout—and a few of Romney’s most important Wall Street donors made more than $4 billion. Their gains, and the Romneys’, were astronomical—more than 3,000 percent on their investment.

It all starts with Delphi Automotive, a former General Motors subsidiary whose auto parts remain essential to GM’s production lines. No bailout of GM—or Chrysler, for that matter—could have been successful without saving Delphi. So, in addition to making massive loans to automakers in 2009, the federal government sent, directly or indirectly, more than $12.9 billion to Delphi—and to the hedge funds that had gained control over it.

One of the hedge funds profiting from that bailout—
$1.28 billion so far—is Elliott Management, directed by 
Paul Singer. According to The Wall Street Journal, Singer has given more to support GOP candidates—$2.3 million—than anyone else on Wall Street this election season. His personal giving is matched by that of his colleagues at Elliott; collectively, they have donated $3.4 million to help elect Republicans this season, while giving only $1,650 to Democrats. And Singer is influential with the GOP presidential candidate; he’s not only an informal adviser but, according to the Journal, his support was critical in helping push Representative Paul Ryan onto the ticket.

Singer, whom Fortune magazine calls a “passionate defender of the 1%,” has carved out a specialty investing in distressed firms and distressed nations, which he does by buying up their debt for pennies on the dollar and then demanding payment in full. This so-called “vulture investor” received $58 million on Peruvian debt that he snapped up for $11.4 million, and $90 million on Congolese debt that he bought for a mere $20 million. In the process, he’s built one of the largest private equity firms in the nation, and over decades he’s racked up an unusually high average return on investments of 14 percent.

Other GOP presidential hopefuls chased Singer’s endorsement, but Mitt chased Singer with his own checkbook, investing at least $1 million with Elliott through Ann Romney’s blind trust (it could be far more, but the Romneys have declined to disclose exactly how much). Along the way, Singer gained a reputation, according to Fortune, “for strong-arming his way to profit.” That is certainly what happened at Delphi.


http://www.thenation.com/print/article/170644/mitt-romneys-bailout-bonanza

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Not my choice. Just like the political system we find ourselves in.

Just have to make the best of a stupid situation.

Surrender is not on the table.

[+] -4 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

NO, I'm pointing out your clownish RW hypocrisy!

What is TELLING: you go on and on about hypotheticals in Iran, where NOTHING has happened, in thinly veiled Con talking points to denigrate Obama;

BUT you totally IGNORE the untold millions of real DEATHS and LOSSES we are still REALLY suffering from the last RepubliCon Regime!!!

You are outed, Troll!!!

GET OUT THE VOTE!!!

[-] -1 points by KevinLark (-103) 2 years ago

vote obama out

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

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[-] 4 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Well, the 1% is the one that chose Obama and Romney, so Im not sure how voting for either will change that. Best case scenario we get more Bush cuts, 3 more free trade deals, another stripping of our most basic rights, and bombing another 6 countries in 4 years.

I though you were the one that wrote that, and was going to be fairly impressed with your level of thought put into it. Then I saw Tara at the end. And then you go off and call people working for change Unicorn chasers. So we are right back where you usually are.

Honestly, there is a segment of the population that is never going to make a move, will always be dragged back into the fray during election seasons, driven by fear of the other regardless of what their guy did.

We cannot waste time with these people. Its the other 80% of the population that we are focused on, that are interested in getting involved in something new and different.

I just hope you put your money where your mouth is this election season and campaigned. Actually got involved.

If thats what we are fighting for, then sign me off.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

BYE! We'll call you.

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

I didnt think drones required pilots?

[-] 2 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

They don't. Obama has the joystick on Wsmith!

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Hedges should not be able to escape his own words, so at the risk of being banned, here gores:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/david-graeber-explains-stuff/

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Plenty of occupiers have mirrored Hedges' words in that statement. All inclusive movements are interesting in that manner..

[-] 2 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I see the white power clique has registered its opinion. By all means do speak out...

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

You think HC is a racist? Do you think his loginname means HiCkHiCk?

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Maybe I'm confused but I think he does get on on the gangup against Frogg and fiftyfourfifty along with the nitwit DKA and company. To me that puts him in the white power camp. Now this sort of white power doesn't mean any personal animosity against any single black person nor the old KKK style racial theory stuff. Just "We're white, we got what we got and fuck everyone else." Isn't that the essence of white power?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

It is. I think the "gang" I encounter most easily falls into the Right wing wacko camp, which is not mutually exclusive mind you.

Most right wing wackos I've met are clearly racist.

I think you should call it out when you see it. More power to you!

[-] 0 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

David Graeber demolished Hedges crap in his open letter. Of course like most other Republicans you don't live in a reality based world.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Some other contradictions that were quite common:

Rebuild vs Reform. Demands vs Dont recognize the power And all the other differences in what direct actions were appropriate or not.

Stop reacting, Start thinking.

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

You can go off of what Graeber says. Ive never met him. Im just going off of what Ive heard people say at DAs and GAs.

I personally think anyone should expect a lot more shit than the few instances they are talking about, before this economy straightens itself out.

Thats pretty funny that you site a letter, I site some stuff that I have personally heard, and that makes me a republican. Go get an education.

[-] 0 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Graeber demolished Hedges, a narcissist like you are, with the truth, with facts. Beyond that what does it matter what people like you say and think? Very little indeed.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

They're only words.

I hope free speech prevails.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Yes, including my free speech to remind people of Hedges' cop calling perfidy.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

i don't recall any of your speech that is bannable.

And these people all kinda abusiveness, So go for it.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Not ban worthy.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

testing, okay not banned yet...

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Don't panic. Just be cool.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I enjoy this shit. No problem.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Have at it.

Solidarity!

[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

I uphold your right to say anything. But who the hell am I?

My main concern with Hedges is his that his advocacy for political disengagement has a moral and pure sound to it, but really only makes the problem with our political system worse. Our problem is too LOW Voter turnout, not too HIGH Voter turnout. And thirds are throwaway Votes until we reform our current system to accommodate them.

The tendency to make the PERFECT the enemy of the GOOD is still alive and well and DESTRUCTIVE. Which is why Cons are using it in their campaign strategy!

[-] 2 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

I am with you around half of the way. David Graeber, one of the founding lights of Occupy, demolished Hedges blshit about black bloc http://occupywallst.org/forum/david-graeber-explains-stuff/. the critique you posted of Hedges is spot on - indeed these self satisfied white male "lefties" are throwing women, gays, unions under the bus and you can ask them if they really give a shit about it. It reminds me of the infantile German Communist slogan "after Hitler us." which didn't work out to well.

Just curious though. Do you think Hedges and our ultra left "friends" are also perhaps a bit overly "color blind?" Do you think suppression of black voters is a human rights issue that rises say, to the level of importance of Pussy Riot?

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

Removed!! LOL What was that about?

[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Was it you? No.

Who knows?

Hope somebody didn't lose their mind. We might see some of that after Tuesday.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

I just saw a bunch of 'removed' and thought WTF.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

I don't recall seeing a string like that before.

Heads might be exploding.

[-] 1 points by jph (2652) 2 years ago

"I vote for Obama without an ounce of guilt."

Well perhaps you should take the responsibility for your choice,. I suggest voting for Obama as well, however I do so knowing full well that the choice comes LOADED with guilt! Drone Murders, Kill Lists, and the expansion of the Corporate State are Obama's to own,. plus many more anti-democratic, pro-1% and down right awful choices the administration has taken in the last four years,. the fact that Mittens promises even worse (!) does nothing to alleviate the guilt of these facts.

As far as the few social issues that Obama takes a better position than Mittens, they are tinny in comparison to the continued great evil that the corporate presidency of Obama has, and will do,. Abortion and gay rights are not even issues to the bankster 1%, these "issues" have zero effect on the bottom line; the wealth concentration to the top! These are distractions, that permit the continued rape of the 99% by the greed-mongers, the 1% bankster class of anti-human scum,. .

[-] -3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

So Pres Obamas efforts on military issues and bankster/plutocrat/eco equity have been profoundly disappointing.

These problems have been around long before Pres Obama! And there are other pols responsible for the profound weakness in progress. Some have even obstructed progress.

And if you seek that we feel guilt, shouldn't we feel guilt for being asleep & uninvolved while this has built up for 30 years?. And for not forcing the change we want now.?

It still ain't really happening. OWS has begun to wake people up. But there aren't enough people to get the change we want.

I think we should certainly protest and expect our leaders to make change, but I think WE are the weakest link. After all WE are more powerful than the1% IF we get in the street.

But obviously we can't expect one politician to do everything for us.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla (-161) from Detroit, MI 2 years ago

Obama just promised he'd get rid of lobbyists. He might actually be seriously considering it this time.

‘The future doesn’t have lobbyists. They’ll never have as many lobbyists as the vested interests. Never have as many lobbyists as the past does.’

[+] -4 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

When you come to terms with political reality, you realize that there are no perfect City Commissioners, Mayors, State Legislators, Governors, Congresspeople, Senators or Presidents. Nor are there perfect politics. In fact, perfection only exists in delusion and lies.

"As far as the few social issues that Obama takes a better position than Mittens..." Here are a few more:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-3rds-accomplished-bush-what-gop-accomplished-/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/10-dire-consequences-of-voting-3rd-or-pouting/

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-mitt-romney-would-screw-the-red-states-that-su/

Which one of the 3rds has achieved the promises they advocate? Here's the problem, not only is it impossible for any of them to win until we adapt and reform our political system to accommodate 3rds, they can promise or advocate anything ANYTHING because they will never have an elected office in which they can achieve anything (keep one single promise). Until we make the needed reforms, we have to keep RepubliCons out or we will go straight to hell in a hand basket. A vote for 3rds is a vote for Cons!

Get out the Vote!

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[-] 0 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Mike Mallow Show: http://www.mikemalloy.com/

[-] -2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 2 years ago

Just blame it on Stein if your guy loses. If not continue the BS. I can't wait for next Wednesday to come.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Take a little look into the past, when Dems only had to contend with inept and careless Cons. Today they are deliberate saboteurs!

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15142

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[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

What the hell happened here??

Below, all the [Removed]s????

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[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

You're harassing this forum

[-] 8 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

The forum mascot has been out of fuckin control....the closer to the election we get, the faster he rides that unicycle, crashing into shit and popping right back on it....

Incredible stamina though, I mean 24/7 of mindless MSM dribble...

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

Uh, "mascot" is probably a poor word choice....

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Yeah, you usually choose a mascot. This one chose us.

[-] 3 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

He, he...that would be PEST!!!!

[-] 3 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

Heheheh. Unfortunately, after decades of consuming Roundup (registered trademark, lol) tainted GMO crops, it is completely resistant to all known pesticides. All attempts at eradication have proved fruitless. Burning down the structure, as in days of old, is not an option. Professional help is strongly urged. For him, not the forum, heheheh.

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

LOL HIGH FIVE

Btw, I have wondered if he would crawl back into his hole Nov 7.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6885) from St Louis, MO 2 years ago

My guess? No such luck. I fear he's here to stay.

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

Heh, heh....this is a tiop post and when I read it I knew who you were talking about!!!!!

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[-] 3 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

I just did

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[-] 2 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

No its not i emailed them and expect results

Sure i guess when you are left as you are everyone looks RW

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[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 2 years ago

post in the that post please

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Who deleted all of your posts?

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[-] 2 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 2 years ago

You mess with these particular whiteboys too much and the Canadians will ban you. Ask frogmanofborneo and fiftyfourforty.

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[-] -2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I know. Of course THEY are messin with ME. And have been for months. No matter how many RW weak sorry ass children they gather up to gang up on me. I smoke their ignorant asses.

LMFAO.

They are so ignorant they don't realize all their cursing and schoolyard bullying tactics only show them for what they are. Scared little children who can't debate with the big boys.

They get dispatched & dismissed.

Always, without fail.

[-] 2 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 2 years ago

You are one twisted little dude.

~Odin~

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

haha

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[-] 4 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 2 years ago

OK, I just wanted to check in with you one last time today. I was wondering: What will you do after the election? I suspect a well deserved vacation will be in order. If you have a favorable outcome, I would suggest one of those deluxe hotels in Maui, and if not, you could at least probably get one of those all-inclusive deals in the Carribbean from your people. I do suspect they water down the booze on the latter, so be prepared. lol

~Odin~

[-] 1 points by freakyfriday (179) 2 years ago

VQ is probably gonna volunteer to help clear the jungle on Maui for Bhiouse Barry's post presidential compound.....unless, of course his banker buddies can buy the Marco's old plantation.

[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

If it's any conciliation, I always thought you were TM. I don't think you deserved to be banned.

You needed education:

Randi Rhodes Homework Friday, November 2, 2012

Audio/Video

Morning Joe Team Reacts To The Great October Jobs Numbers

Hannity: Jobs Numbers Will Be Cooked

Montage: At Ohio Romney Rally, Interviews with Supporters

Obama 2012 TV ad: "Cynical"; Auto companies themselves hit Mitt for lying about them

Bob King, President Of UAW, In Toledo, Ohio Files Ethics Charge On Romney For Auto Loan Profits

Tom Woodruff, Evp Of SEIU, Files Official Ethics Charge Against Romney

Biden mocks Romney & Ryan's shapeshifting positions: "It just depends..."

Letterman Top 10 List: Joe Biden’s reasons for voting early

Video: Mr. Burns endorses Romney

Fox's John Stoessel: People With Money Should Rebuild After Sandy On Their Own

Former Army Vice Chief Of Staff General Keane Debunks Fox's Outrageous Claim That The Administration Left Americans To Die In Benghazi Government Jobs Report:

184,000 private-sector jobs created (Wow!); 13,000 public-sector jobs lost; Aug & Sept revised upwards—84,000 more jobs (Wow!); Unemployment rate ticks up to 7.9% as workers surge back into the workforce.

The Official October Jobs Report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics Sandy

Sandy-hit areas sputter back to life amid destruction, heartache

Staten Island Was Tragic Epicenter of Storm’s Casualties

Gasoline Runs Short, Adding Woes to Storm Recovery

The Obama/Christie bromance continues...

As Sandy recovery chugs on, NJ Transit service resumes, benefit concert is planned

New Jersey to deploy military trucks to serve as polling places Election 2012

Campaigns Brace to Sue for Votes in Crucial States

Where We Are: Obama Can Thank Early Negative Ads For His Current Advantage

Early Voting So Far, Swing State By Swing State

Paul Krugman: The Blackmail Caucus

How Romney Made Money Off The Auto Bailout

UAW Files Ethics Charges

Chrysler executive to Trump: ‘You are full of sh*t!’

Mitt Romney’s Kamikaze strategy

NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg Endorses Obama For President

'Blackout' imposed as George W. Bush speaks at Cayman Islands investment conference

Kansas City woman claims she was refused medical treatment over her support for Obama

Hawaii Democrat poised to be elected first Hindu in Congress

Sidebar: A Romney Travels to Russia, but on Strictly Friendly Terms Jobs & The Economy

How did things look the week before Americans voted in 2008? Really, really bad

U.S. Auto Sales Rise Despite Superstorm Sandy

Economist Stands By Tax Cut Study After GOP Successfully Demands Its Withdrawal

U.S. manufacturing expands at faster pace in October

Tesla Model S named Car Of The Year: An all-electric sedan with silent, face-melting speed Another Libya Debunk

No delays in rescue effort in Libya

David Ignatius: In Benghazi timeline, CIA errors but no evidence of conspiracy

Read more: http://www.randirhodes.com/pages/homework.html?feed=364336&article=10544648#ixzz2B9xxg5B9

[-] -1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

My personal life is none of your business! As always you have nothing of substance, nothing positive!

Please stop harassing me!

[-] 2 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 2 years ago

Ok, so you did. Got it, was just wondering. Goodbye.

[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Is there an ap for that?? Cuz I don't have it.

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[-] -3 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Come on and play nice guys.

What's the prob?

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[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

When Cons only have mindless arguments for their "beliefs," can only take office by suppressing Votes and defrauding elections, and can't reveal their true facsist authoritarian agenda, mindless attacks are all they've got left.

I think it's all a lesson for us to see who they really are, beyond the specious American Crossroads TV ads that imitate normal people but with really warped complaints. Important stuff.

I assume his replies were removed? How does that happen??

"Sticks and stones..." people!

Get out the up and down ballot VOTE!!!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Challenge the "both samers" & "Unicorn chasers".

In regards to the RW gang who can't argue honestly. I simple call then out on their mindless, insubstantial personal attacks.

As far as how: Sometimes the mods see the abuse and act! I know that DanielBarton claimed to have emailed the mods about ME! Imagine that. Perhaps that alerted the mods to Danny boys abuse.

Otherwise I could not say!

[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Thx. I've been visiting the Rhodes warrior regularly since you turned me on to the site.

[-] -3 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Get out the Vote!

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[-] -1 points by WSmith (1637) from Cornelius, OR 2 years ago

Nothing new under the sun, just more evil: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=15142