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Forum Post: ALEC gives up !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted 6 years ago on April 17, 2012, 8:22 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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ALEC announced they will no longer push "social" issues
just union busting
just cap gains elimination
just inheritance elimination




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[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22858) 6 years ago

This is a great start! Now we need to attack all the other laws ALEC already had a hand in passing. Voter ID laws come to mind.

And, thanks, bensdad for all your work re: ALEC and the Trayvon Martin case.

[-] 2 points by LeoYo (5909) 5 years ago

Legislators Solicit Corporate Cash to Attend ALEC Utah Meeting

Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:59 By Sara Jerving, PRWatch | Report


A letter from a Louisiana state representative asking a corporate representative for money is another example of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) "scholarship" program at work, and how it creates an overly cozy relationship between corporations and legislators that allows for improper influence. The "scholarship" program has allowed corporations to do what lobbying laws in most states prohibit -- give legislators expensive gifts of flights through ALEC which can buy increased influence over public policy.

The Louisiana Tri-Parish Times revealed that Republican Rep. Joe Harrison, the ALEC Public Sector State Chair for Louisiana, sent out letters, on state letterhead, asking corporations for $1,000 donations to send "over thirty Louisiana legislators" to the ALEC conference being held July 25-28 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Topics under discussion would be important "to the entire lobbying community" said Harrison and he asked that the funds be sent to his state office.

Through ALEC "scholarships," corporations can funnel gifts to ALEC politicians in the form of flights, hotel rooms, and other perks so they can attend ALEC conferences, which are often held at fancy resorts and look a lot like a vacation. Once at the conference, corporations and legislators vote as equals to approve ALEC "model" bills which in many cases benefit the same corporations that funded the legislators' travel costs. ALEC politicians then bring those bills back to their state and introduce them in their own name, in many cases without revealing to the public that corporations had pre-voted on the bills and without disclosing that those same corporations had given the legislators gifts of flights and hotel rooms -- which some might call a bribe.

The $1,000 corporate donations solicited by Harrison will allow public servants in his state to fly to Utah and stay at Salt Lake City's swanky Grand American Hotel and indulge in a host of other events set up by corporate sponsors at the conference, such as a shooting event hosted by the National Rifle Association. Louisiana legislators make only $16,800 per year (and they get only $6,000 per year in expense allowance), so for many Louisiana politicians the trip would otherwise be unaffordable.

As CMD has reported:

In most states, ethics laws prohibit companies or organizations with an interest in the outcome of legislation from offering gifts above a certain value to legislators (or their families). Additionally, lobby laws in many states prohibit corporations that employ lobbyists from offering anything of significant value to elected officials. ALEC member corporations covering hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of plane tickets for lawmakers and hotels for them and their families raises serious concerns about such gifts under many states' ethics and lobbying laws. But by calling this spending a "scholarship" and filtering it through a bank account designated as the "ALEC scholarship fund," corporations have, so far, been maneuvering around laws designed to limit improper influence.

"The Definition of a Bribe?"

Watchdog groups like the Center for Media and Democracy, DBA Press, Common Cause, People for the American Way, Progress Now, and others have compiled a mounting list of evidence to argue that these gifts constitute improper influence over legislators.

For example, open records requests submitted by DBA Press have revealed long lists of corporate donors to the Ohio ALEC scholarship fund, such as $1,000 from an Eli Lilly lobbyist and $10,000 from a Time Warner Cable lobbyist. And an examination of IRS filings show the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) reporting a whopping $365,075 contribution to the Wisconsin ALEC scholarship fund.

In March, CMD filed a complaint with the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board alleging the scholarship scheme violates the state's ethics and lobbying laws. In the complaint, CMD argued, "It makes little sense to prohibit corporate principles and lobbyists from offering anything of value to public officials, but to allow such giving if it is filtered through a segregated ALEC 'scholarship fund.'" ALEC claimed only a couple thousand from PhRMA went to fund Wisconsin legislative travel and the rest was for legislators in other states.

This month, the former chief of the IRS' nonprofit division, Marcus Owens, filed a complaint with the IRS on behalf of Clergy VOICE, a group of Christian ministers in Ohio, alleging that ALEC is violating the terms of its charitable status and intentionally misleading the IRS, in part because of the scholarship scheme.

As CMD reported, Owens and Clergy VOICE alleged that the gifts of flights and hotel rooms provide a "private benefit" to state legislators, in violation of ALEC's 501(c)(3) status, and more importantly, ALEC repeatedly told the IRS that it provides no scholarships and funds no travel or entertainment expenses for elected officials.

"They have to hide the fact they are making payments to state legislators," Owens told CMD. If the scheme was made public, "it would taint their efforts at the state level. People would know Exxon Mobil or someone else is funneling money to legislators," he said, as "inducement to act in a certain way."

"That's the definition of a bribe."

This piece was reprinted by Truthout with permission or license.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 5 years ago

alec is the BIGGEST supporter for an Article V Constitutional Convention.
I've heard they will pay their representatives VERY VERY well

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

ALEC as a concept is still very much in motion, even as ALEC itself appears to recede.


They're still coming for your children.

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 6 years ago

Not.They will just do a corporate make over and continue.

[-] -1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

I'm not saying WE WON - close the book
I'm saying we made important progress

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 6 years ago

The progress is only a temporary set back unless there is total system change.

[-] 1 points by BoycottCoke (275) 6 years ago

This is why we must keep the choke hold around their necks, they will just regroup and come back even stronger if we were to let up, this is a small victory but by no means the win of a war. Stand up people, the real call of duty is louder than ever!!!! God bless.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

Color of change & ows started this. NOW is the time to redouble our efforts
OUTING legislators as ALEC lemmings, with specific examples,
may be very powererful -
especially for a legislator's running opponent.
light is the best disinfectant

[-] 1 points by shadz66 (19985) 6 years ago

Tho' you may already know it, I append a link which the inestimable 'shooz' drew to my attention :

fiat lux ...

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

Although ALEC just lost Pepsi, Coke, Kraft , a nd others -
they are too big to fail
And even if the lost 90% of their companies, koch can sneeze up the balance

Thanks to OWS and the flood of recent PR and zimmerman -
the stench of alec is becoming much more conspicuous

If you think you know America’s biggest threat,
..Koch ?
….Norquist ?
……Iran ?
………Boehner ?
………...McConnell ?
……………Murdoch ?

you are wrong –
……spend ten minutes with each of these

American Legislative Exchange Council

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Corporations ALEC Corporate member list http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=ALEC_Politicians 2000 ALEC politicians by state

.............................................BE AFRAID – VERY AFRAID

And FYI –

ALEC is doing everything they can do to create
a new constitutional convention [Article V Convention]
that can propose virtually anything:

All public schools – privatized
All medicare/Medicaid/SocialSecurity – privatized
No cap gains tax
EPA – gone
Guns for all
No inheritance tax
Tell me – what else do you think an Article V Convention could do?

[-] 1 points by BoycottCoke (275) 6 years ago

Sounds good, anybody got a list of members of ALEC ? Is that something that is public knowledge ?

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

ALEC politicians by state 2000+ lemmings strong

[-] 1 points by BoycottCoke (275) 6 years ago

Excellent. Thank you. I'm going to start working on that at OWSthinktank.org

[-] 1 points by JamesS89118 (646) from Las Vegas, NV 6 years ago

They really brought this on themselves. No one was talking gun control seriously but them, now they'll get some and more.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 6 years ago

They already bought all the State supreme court judges they need .....for now!

And besides, how long will it be before they form another "non profit" corporation to do the rest of the social engineering they still want to do?

They won't be coming off my radar for for long time to come.

Plus they say that like economic decisions don't have social impacts.

[-] 0 points by redandbluestripedpill (333) 5 years ago

What about ART5?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

ALEC whines about earth day.

No one is celebrating their good works.


[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

If ALEC opposes, It must be good.

They are a great measure.

Lowlife corp shill fucks

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

They gave up a year ago.


Coulda fooled me.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

The activity against voting rights and stand your ground has not diminished so if ALEC appears to be uninvolved they have only succeeded at hiding it better.

lying fucks!

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 5 years ago

The SPN is there to ease the way for all ALEC legislation.


[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

Yes you had a good post on them where I 1st learned about them.

Same lowlifes different initials.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 5 years ago

check out alicelaw.org - OUR version of alec

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

I will.


[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 5 years ago

I believe ALEC has a big annual convention this w/e in Utah.

The Grand American Hotel 555 south main st Salt lake city utah

Any Utags up for protests.? They should know we are aware, and here, that we care and they should fear.

Let me stop.