Forum Post: A 3 minute clip that shows what we must do.
Posted 8 years ago on Oct. 11, 2016, 10:41 a.m. EST by factsrfun
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For my "Never Hillary" friends, if you are feeling down after the Wikileaks/Russian release consider this. I know we are living in a political prison trapped within structures we can not escape, the only choice we have is quit distasteful. Well I'll leave it here and give you this and hope you understand.
Voting for Jill Stein for president would be so much better.
https://twitter.com/DKAtoday/status/785967198661599232
Makes too much sense. Why would anyone here on this Occupy website support a Wall Street Crony like the Hag anyway?
why? so you can feel "proud" of yourself? is that what elections are about feeding your ego? I say kill the GOP while it is weak, and start the collapse of the "system".
Drumpf & sHillary being the two most toxic and disliked candidates EVER to be shoved down the public's throat (at one time as mitten was totally toxic too) and YOU don't want to push a 3rd party candidate?
If you wanna be pissed off at anyone - be pissed off at Bernie for folding to the wealthy establishment and campaign whoring for sHillary!
That Aside - This year could see a major loss of other offices for the GOP.
We're a little bit into Drumpf are you still sure it wasn't worth, making sure he didn't win?
I'm not the one who tried to force un-electable sHillary Rotten Clinton down the public's throat! It would have been a totally different outcome if the DNC hadn't screwed Bernie (and the public) !
Further: Since the plainly crazy hater billionaire got elected - it may turn out better for the public (in the long run) - as the public gets a horrific look at Drumpf's administration and term in office. The republicans publicly state that they are horrified by Drumpf - but then do not oppose his actions. This may well lead to the public "FINALLY" and DESPERATELY looking for 3rd party options for pretty much every office. Public demonstration of protest has never been more apparent and widespread than during the Vietnam war!
So you think you can just pretend the time period from June to November just doesn't exist? You are the one who fell asleep, who wasn't there, who let Drumpf win.
Tom Perez want's to hear from you.
I told Tom that the 2016 DNC screwed themselves when they publicly screwed Bernie (and so the public) . In rigging the nomination for sHillary Rotten Clinton - that the DNC lost a major portion of the Public's trust.
That instead of screwing Bernie that the DNC should have rallied around Bernie and his whole campaign platform.
That if they want to survive and regain public trust - that they need to rally around Bernie and his whole campaign platform NOW !
That Bernie as the presidential candidate would have beaten Drumpf and likely would have done it with plenty of votes from the republican base who also found Bernie to be very popular.
I've no doubt you were there for the "I told you so" but where was your support for HRC when she was the only way to stop Drumpf? send me the links I can show you mine, anybody can sit on the sidelines and throw stones the question is what did you do to stop Drumpf?
FUCK sHillary (ooo ick - not even with slick's dick) - where was your support when the DNC was screwing Bernie!
I was here all the time supporting Bernie till the race was over and he was endorsing HRC, but you supported Drumpf when Bernie was supporting HRC and now Drumpf is POTUS you must be proud!
Do you remember when you helped Trump win the White House?
Is that vote for Jill Stein making these Trump days better for you?
A vote for Jill is a vote for Trump.
As long as Stein polls at 3% it is a vote for Trump just as those that voted Nader put W Bush into the WH, if we are ever going to stop this see-saw bullshit, its not about doing what makes you "feel good' its about getting something done if everyone sucks it up votes Dem and kills the GOP before it can rebuild we can actually change things, no matter what Jill is not going to be President so what-ifing about it don't mean shit, killing the GOP would actually do something,
It is a ladder of power, take out one leg and the whole thing will fall.
Ever think we here do not want the DNC to change things because we do not share their corrupted view of the world. America does need a one party rule. Two party rule is already bad enough.
Enjoy the rule of Drumpf idiot, power hungry ego whores like you are why the earth is dying.
That statement is actually something you should be e-mailing out to the DNC as well as every democrat that is still in office!
2 bad tht public speeches/debates don't include video fact checks 4 t public
https://t.co/gIS7aADTEK
https://t.co/0H0BEXKu9h
You seriously oppose gun control? Are you another "gun nut" DK?
Was there a part of the post you didn't understand?
WTF ?
Neither sHillary or Drumpf would be different for the USA.
Both would be out for themselves and that means also for the wealthy few that are ruining this country.
You know = The current establishment
In actuality TPTB who act behind the curtain would be fine with either in office!
BTW - just what are you suggesting that people do by posting a stupid clip about a guy crawling through 500 yards of dung and piss to get out of prison?
Electing Drumpf or sHillary (imo) would be for the public to continue crawling through shit and piss for the next four years.
But consider also. The presidency can be balked by congress. So even if we elected a decent individual like Jill Stein to office. If we don't remove toxic assholes like pretty much every republican in office along with their blue dog counterparts. Then the public will still be forced to crawl through Dung and Piss up to their necks for the next four years.
First off Stein is an idiot, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU,
and again I ask you do you support gun control or not?
1st off sHillary is totally toxic
I support common sense gun control
The gun-control issue does not need a federal nationwide single legal regulation. The Second Amendment has already set the foundation on the federal level. It's just another issue that really belongs to under the rim of our toilet bowls as do the security cameras needed there to monitor the toilet/genitalia compliance of our toilet-using population.
In some areas, gun control is a great idea. In others, not so much. Have you ever noticed that our police carry guns but the Bobbies of the U.K. do not? Here're the reasons why. Do you wonder why our women don't need to wear hijabs and niqabs but Islamic fundamentalist countries absolutely require that? Read about the rapes and sexual assaults on German women in Cologne on 2015-12-31. Why?
It's cultural clash. I thought nothing of walking around stark naked in a shower room but in some cultures it is an absolutely abominable behavior. Well, in some ways, I was prudish, too, when the topic of streaking came up during my conversation with two young women. I blushed and froze.
are you 5 years old? "bobbies" don't carry guns? what makes you think that?
"culture clash" is bullshit
we need to go into people's homes and take the guns, we might clean up the voting rolls at the same and purge some Trump voters but I expect not those wimps would hand them right over
Cultural clash is real. Europeans are better at separating nudity from sexuality than we Americans are. We probably suppress nudity due to our overwhelming religious beliefs but we are humans, too, aren't we? I frankly admit that I appreciate beautiful women(I can see health!) and some are indeed brainier(yes, sexier - for what else could humans have evolved such big brains?! Humans are an in-between social species with chimpanzees and bonobos flanking us on each side who have highly culturally programmable brains) than men but I never consider women as properties as some cultures do. Different cultures have different fetishes. Keeping them separate reduces potential conflicts.
Cultures say, "let your hair be covered, your face, your feet, your body, your breasts, or your genitals." This is required for social order. Generally, the dominant ones can expose more. Why can men's nipples be exposed in public but women's are often censored? Men are dominant. Why do women need to be wrapped up like spring rolls in Islamic countries? If not, they may get raped and worse yet they are blamed for the men's disrespectful behaviors. Islamic men are dominant.
Teutonic culture placed women in very high social status. The legacy of that can be seen in the German language in which the many, the high-status, and female are all accorded the similar very respectful pronouns. Men may be dominant but they defer to the power of the numerous, the high-social-status, and the females (who can beget the numerous and are often consorts of the high-social-status ones; a man has to be good at survival in such a war-loving culture to be able to get around to reproducing with the prized females).
The law of supply and demand reigns in human cultures, too. Between the ages of four and six, I was probably oversexed(relative to my peers) after my babysitter had introduced me to the male/female dichotomy but once I had entered my sexual dormancy, I didn't even masturbate when I was reading about human anatomy and sexuality in my third grade. There was little quantity of sex hormones stoking my sexual desires then, so I had no demand for sex. Once my puberty had set in earnestly, it was a whole new(though new and yet old and largely familiar) sexual world, so yes, I can understand my babysitter's behavior towards me to a certain extent.
I think that the Islamic world has horrendous sex inequality (with the richer/powerful ones hogging as many as four wives) so the younger/poorer men have great frustrated demand for sex so once they got to Germany in a horde, they got "sex relief." It's not just in Germany; Middle-Eastern men are known elsewhere, too, as being sex-starved. I call that a shortage of sex. On the other hand, Nordic men tend to frown with aversion upon men raping women although they are very open indeed regarding sex with women (and I think they do get more sex than we do as Americans so they're more satiated than American or the exported Muslim men). Nordic countries didn't seem to have problem with their men's sexual behaviors, unlike the Islamic world. Maybe they do now with the influx of Islamic migrant men.
"Bobbies" mostly do not carry guns but of course they can call on the other ones who do. There's a historical reason why they are called Bobbies. It's Very different from the U.S. where every Booby carries a dildo, even to densely populated areas where a confrontation is far likelier to kill or injure an innocent bystander than a perpetrator of crime. Maybe the armed enforcers of law and order should just stay on the boundaries of the densely populated areas ready to impose control quickly rather than patrolling in crowds.
When things truly get out of control, using guns settle the security issue. Every single armed conflict in history ended with the victors firing the vanquishing shots. It doesn't have to get to that sometimes. When our home in a very nice neighborhood was broken into in the chaotic 1970s(thanks to the global anal sphincter's actions), we moved to a lily-white neighborhood where the residents had the reputation of having guns. We didn't get any trouble, even during the riots. Sometimes the reputation alone is good enough to scare off the potential troublemakers. (I didn't quite like the downscaling[a lily-white neighborhood can be very oppressive in subtle ways - most whites(a bit like fish not knowing about the ubiquitous water they live in) probably don't "get it" but everyone else overwhelmingly know of "white privileges"] but security came first; I was glad that there WAS a secure[being lily-white was incidental] neighborhood for us to escape to)
My view is that gun control should be situationally determined. Tighter control of firearms in densely populated cities (New York, NY has many different neighborhoods so one needs to know their characteristics to choose the desirable ones) with good (New York was terrible for a while) police control makes sense but not in sparsely populated areas where the police cannot come quickly. Yes, Vermonters overwhelmingly own firearms even though they support Bernie's socialist policies. Vermonters are not stupid. Nor am I.
seems you spend too much time watching late night comedians and not enough educating yourself on fiat currency. or maybe you think hearing john oliver talk about currency creation is educational. i do not!
one of the main issues facing the country in many areas is "we don't have the money." just read the great paul volker today in the ny times - no money for medicare or social security or teachers or pensions. plenty for banks and wars though no? jill is essentially correct - we can print all the money we need to create a healthy population and economy - as one investor (on the business channel no less - bloomberg!) said - "we should have the fed cut a check to the treasury for $1 trillion and spend half on infrastructure and the other half spread it among the population, that would end the economic malaise" good idea no? who would need to be paid back in that situation - the fed - well where did they get the money - they hit a key stroke no?
it is an extremely important and very poorly understood issue. government debt is not like business or household debt. when i borrow from the bank i do not have a printing press in the basement. michael hudson is one of the best on this issue - along with stephanie kelton. google their talk in italy and you will learn a lot. for starters here he is - http://michael-hudson.com/2011/06/how-a-13-trillion-cover-story-was-written/
you don't have to watch late night TV to know Stein is an idiot, all you have to do is watch the debates https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_287367&feature=iv&src_vid=iGqHeDxRD1k&v=5EcaX12h46k
this is your focus in the age of trump? gun control and jill stein - really. you, along with other mainstream dems need to look in the mirror - stop blaming russians and stupid poor people and realize that you need to offer something other than business as usual. and your dems only offer business as usual - they are your dems - own it!
you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself what did you do to stop Drumpf? are you pretending the time between June and November doesn't exist? You can follow my posts I was there in the primaries where where you? where are you going to be when the primaries come around again? fighting for the ego whore Greens or fight to stop the GOP?
it has never been my intention to stop trump. that has been yours. i am hoping to stop the two party system from crushing us all. same old sad story from you. the evil gop - both parties are complicit in the destruction of the planet. just take a look at the great obama's love of capitalism. rant all you want - you are in the wrong place to do it - move on to move on or msnbc. you are a waste of time. dems must look in the mirror - they are complicit in the rise of trump. look at obama's campaign promises and see how they worked out.
Nowhere in the US Constitution does it stipulate, that Duopoly and Crapitalism shall be the order of the day to ''establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the General Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty''!!! Solidarity to U & m, flip and fyi, pls see:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/12/how-america-became-a-1-society B.Moyers
and fyi - https://trofire.com/2017/03/10/republican-healthcare-plan-meant-help-rich-plain-simple/
respice; adspice; prospice ...
but Drumpf is still POTUS and it was YOU that helped to put him there
"YOU" are not dealing with reality very well these days, are ''YOU''?! POTUS Drumf and his faction of US Oligarchy & his cabinet of Billionaires, Mere Multi-Millionaires & Generals, is sadly a logical culmination of the extrapolation of the curve of - American demoCRAZY deMOCKERYcy!! Blaming others won't help ''YOU'' & many millions of other Duped By Duopoly 'Mercans deal with and/or change this! Also fyi here:
e tenebris,lux?
how you liking the guy you helped elect so far?
I've always known you didn't give a crap about anything.
Flip is a rather knowledgeable person, really. As he had said that I might have been "dropped on my head" so this may just be a brain-damaged expletive(he guessed correct on that one count but only partially correct - my head was Never "dropped" but as a baby squished{and tried to be shape-restored afterwards} by my Mom[she told me so when I, as a preschooler, asked her about the slightly unusual deformed shape of my head] on the return leg of a funerary trip to keep me warm[due to the extremely cold far below freezing weather and the poverty of the non-familial relatives{to whom she had left most of our winter clothing} of the clan gathered to attend the funeral of our Grand Matriarch - my paternal Grandma] and concussed[soccer{football to most non-U.S. countries} and yoga] on three occasions each more than a decade apart from the others).
Trump is a worthless leaky(information control is the most important skill for All enterprises[the U.S.A. is one] - it constitutes much of what competitive advantage is even for family-owned ones without much formality[bonding with the guard dog(s) and picking up after their excrements are parts of a very important security operation]; Coca-Cola company would have been greatly diminished if it had not been able to keep its formula as a trade secret) douché bag who doesn't even defend the First Amendment on U.S. soil in the Capital: https://www.yahoo.com/news/forget-trumps-bluster-world-walking-090001198.html neglecting his Oath. Maybe an independent Kurdistan will teach Turkey a lasting lesson. The U.S. has rather effective weapons to give, loan, lease, or sell at our discretions.
Highly flight-capable, fast, strong and powerful, Periplaneta americana(by far, the easiest low-maintenance[N.A.T.O. likely agrees with its low cost] pet for kids[like me] to keep[do watch out and plan for 'aggregation pheromone'{origin of the major global conflict with al-Qaida} attracting especially the global testy sex-starved Y-Hindu élites, many in London -- Saudi Arabia manages it by confining wines and cheesy cheese, beers, and girlie magazines to diplomatically ceded foreign territories onshore; Okinawa has problems with the leaked pheromone gone amok but Japan needs the alpha male's protection -- one is fun, two is poo, three is out of control, for "quantity has a quality all its own"]) has been a planet-wide expert at doing regime change. Where's our regime change at home, for a change? There's already too much whinning!
There's not much to leadership: say what you do and do what you say. Well known countdowns scare people straight. Of course, there are still Mercy and Grace, but they're Discretions, rarely used.
Trump is a weakling loser, lapdog to Russia, which couldn't even do the simple dog-and-monkey show. I got whinning, whining, whiny, whinney, and whiney so much that I want to get off of this Greatest Freak Show on Earth Ever!
The Italians had warned us before that it would be no fun. Friends do not let friends trump to the World.
i am wondering if you are really just plain dumb or maybe you lack reading comprehension skills. you do realize that others can read what i wrote and your response. must be you like looking stupid - i can think of no other alternative - maybe you could give one??
you mean they can read that part about how you didn't want to stop drumpf? I can too, that's why I say you're a fucking idiot.
Actually, we have many choices.
We have the choice of doing nothing but bowing down to the choices we have been handed.
We have the choice of giving new companies a chance at writing policy.
We have the choice of making our own new companies to write policy.
We have more choices than we realize. We simply don't want to go after them. So we settle for the first one.
But don't declare we have none. Those are the words of a very very weak mind.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for World War III.
4 years of Freddie Grugger is better than that.
Voting for Hillary is a vote for Lilith who has bathroom privilege with God who no longer exists for her.
4 years? if elected Trump will be the last elected President, Putin will be appointing the next.
My fellow Americans, does the DNC play fair in the incidents referred to in this video?
Locker-room, and now also bar-room talks, I want an order of fresh-mushroom fried noodles, please. I promise to feed the mushrooms in the sneakers with my body's mulch.
I really need to get in-between the subway cars to talk to darkness, my old friend. Away from the jam-packed humanity and in the deafening silence, I can meditate about chasing after the "vanishing point" where the two rails join together. "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls, and tenement halls."
"Is this all there is to life?" "Miles to go before I sleep?" "I have promises to keep."
》Vergissmeinnicht《 -- 》meine kleine Geliebte, ich komme gleich zurück...《
Vote on November 28th for the king of pain. "Demand the Impossible (Che Guevara)." (1÷3)×3=1 so 0.333...×3=1 and 0.999...=1. The "vanishing point" is our destination station that we'll arrive at.
The Hag is unfit for the post of the Commander-in-Chief due to her terrible judgment about broadcasting top-secret nuclear-response information worldwide. She can get most of us murdered for her political gain.
So how much is the DNC paying you to blog for the Hag?
so W Bush wasn't enough for you, you want to see Trump in the White House
Better than the Hag.
I think the part you are missing is that the Hag will continue Obama's policies, and all Obama did was continue Bush's policies; especially in the arena of war. So, a vote for the Hag amounts to voting for the continuation of the very policies that Bush brought in under his administration. The Democratic party of today is no longer the Democratic party of ten years ago. The party as lead by the Hag has become an instrument of the Evil Oligarchy that is out to create a world empire at the expense of America and everything else. As caustic as it sounds, Trump being an outsider to Washington-Wall Street, and no apparant friend to this Oligarchy, is our best bet to throw some sand into the Oligarchy's evil plans for war, world domination, and the total demise of main street America.
So you still think Trump is better than Hillary? You are a fucking idiot!
Oh yes I do. If Hillary were Prez right now, she'd be dropping bombs on Moscow, and Moscow would be dropping bombs on D.C., and I live too close to D.C. for that.
Trump is what you get when you put somebody like the Hag up for election. The real problem is the Democratic Party elite. Best for us all to focus on how to rid the Democratic party of them.
so you are either a liar or stupid as shit, which is it? don't answer I don't give a shit, people like you will never do anything or have any influence you are an idiot nothing more nothing less.
I respect the Office but not always the Occupant. This attitude may be foreign but it can help us forge onwards. I believe that our political system has enough checks-and-balances built in to avert catastrophe.
We had imbeciles, maniacs, thieves, robber barons, liars, do-gooders, womanizers, arm twisters, sexual predators, idiots, back-stabbers, etc. occupying the Office and Chicken Little is still clucking her head off. If the sky is falling, we Americans go there to collect meteorites.
Catastrophes happen when we are not aware enough to avert them. With TeraERex stomping around, I think we are all beyond vigilant. Mx. Cheese would have been worse because we wouldn't know what we get until the fermentation has been done(perhaps an explosion may have come first). Last time around, we got Angina Clintoris from being giantly sucked and having our 》Doppelschlongs《 castrated. A burglar stole our family's 》Tonbandgerät《 so we couldn't even play back the Angina-gate 》Doppelspielbänder《 anymore. Our family's incest history recordings are forever lost -- I'm distraught.
More than a totally sealed stainless steel fermentation vat brewing in secret next to us, I prefer the relative safety of a breached Jurassic Park(elf, there's No time machine but deep down the renormalization scale below Bayes' formula, Schrödinger's equation governs the diffusion, in imaginary time, of probability amplitudes from the past, to the present, and into the future, so Both retro- and pre-cognition are possible with sufficient sensuous knowledge of facts and how things work - Everything talks to those who have the desires and ears to listen, for the universe is made of information - Job 12:7-12).
"Do you trust me?" "No, I'll keep my sneakers on. I see ripples in my cup of burping CAMP coffee." "When I have to go due to that diuretic, I'll grab myself and my kitty, and Run!"
Our system of governance is seriously Broken and our society subsequently failing - when an insane greedy asshole like Drumpf can be a candidate let alone be able to get elected to be president!
Herr Drumpf is a political insurgent. He's an undeniable CHANGE from how politics has been conducted. We still await if he's actually business as usual - the packaging looks different.
You must mean that he is a transparently insane greedy hating misogynistic bastard rather than more opaque like his predecessors.
Well, it's better to be able to see where TeraERex is stomping than having to accommodate the various sausages made by Mx. Cheese peacekeeping factory.
Since the World Trade Center bombing of 1993 shortly after the Presidential Inaugural ceremony, we have had decades of peace on earth, and God and sinners reconciled - behold the magical power of He-brewed Franks, only TeraERex's short fingers erecting in salute to a Higher Authority can stuff up and finesse the Big O-slowlier. Width, not length, matters. The longer ones make bloody puncture wounds. Nasty!
you're a babbling idiot
Well I did my little share in helping Trump get elected. .....burn on.
yes you did
RIP Leonard Cohen & ''Democracy (is coming to the USA)'' ~ {ahem!}
It now looks like our Shawshank Sewer just got 4 years longer, frf. RIP-LC.
oremus ...
Maybe people will finally understand what i have been saying, you know "we must kill the GOP" maybe a year or two of Drumpf will wake enough people to understand it matters how you vote and you must vote to kill the GOP if you want to live.
''Kill The GOP''? Right - Good Idea! Care to remind us ''how'' again?!! Because they've got House, Senate and 44 States and being GOP-Lite and cheating Bernie Sanders AND USA's 99% worked so fkn well for DNC/DWS/HRC and corporate Dems ... right?!!!
USA has been deeply programmed by Corporations & Corporate MSM a& RW Oligarchy, DESPITE fact that Bernie took 22 States and .. ONLY cheating DNC Scum, kept him from winning the whole shooting match!!! So sure ''Kill The GOP'' - that's heavily backed by Oligarchy, ''Citizens United'' Corporations and RW Turkeys Voting For Thanksgiving OR say fuck Sell-Out Dems & establish a Proper Pro-99% Party!! Abraham Lincoln split The US Whig Party and then, won as a 3rd Party Candidate on <40% of the vote!
per aspera ad astra ...
I got a question for the "radical left" where the hell were you from June till November of 2016?
The USA's ''radical left'' were NOT conned by HRC's Psychopathic Neoliberal Economics at home inside the USA ... NOR by her Neocon Foreign Policy!!! So, they voted for Dr.Jill Stein or opted to abstain from Oligatchy's Ultimatum or - vote for people like Kshama Sawant!! What are you and The Dems, offering?!
Also, fyi: http://thesaker.is/the-trump-administration-goes-neocon-crazy/ and perhaps consider:
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/40129-neoliberalism-in-the-driver-s-seat-trump-and-ryan-s-ruling-class-schemes
respice, adspice, prospice ...
YOU allowed Drumpf to steal the WH
JUST like the DNC let HRC steal the nomination.;
YOU are just like the DNC!
Your furious scatter gun of frustration'd be understandable, IF you were 15 but you are 50 years older than that and so .. you need to accept that we've far more in common with each other than to tRUMP and his bunch of Oligarchs and duped voters!!! Consider ...
''You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger.'' - (The Buddha)
ad iudicium ...
the biggest difference between us is you supported Drumpf for POTUS I didn't, pretty big difference in my mind.
The alleged workings of your ''mind'' - are seriously suspect ''in my mind'' frf & so consider these links..
http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-support-the-truth-party/#comment-1073913 and your idiocy here:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-3-minute-clip-that-shows-what-we-must-do/#comment-1073807
nosce te ipsum ...
You are a Trump supporter same as ALL the other Trump supporters.
Still stuck in binary D&R duopoly, with your thumb up your bum & what's left of your brains, firmly stuck in neutral .. frf?!!! Apparently, you have unique insight into HRC that nobody here or OWS shares!! You are frustrated in your analysis and that this place or OWS - never bowed to you or to that erstwhile Co-option Crew! HRC is a venal crook & there is no getting away from the fact & so many Americans went with the ''Devil They Didn't Know'' as a result. They were duped, just like they would've been with HRC!
You were right when U said '' http://occupywallst.org/forum/why-liberals-have-to-be-radicals/ '' but voting for Hellary is NOT & never will be .. that! Also fyi ...
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-gets-13-million-health-industry-now-says-single-payer-will-never
& compare and contrast the above with your: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odN4Aq7XjrE
ad iudicium ...
you still having trouble with reality, you do know Trump is POTUS don't you? you can call it whatever you want but in reality you helped put him there
It's official ... you are certifiably .. a dick!!! And worse than that .. a RW dick!! Sad!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-support-the-truth-party/#comment-1074022
& see http://occupywallst.org/forum/trust-fund-perfidy/#comment-1074023 - and consider:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/nothing-really-surprising-in-the-election-this-yea/#comment-1074024 - & enough of the latin but just because all U say is Greek to me:
Gnothi Seauton!
there it is again your one note "duopoly" boring!!!
I say DO SOMETHING....KILL the GOP!!
"Donna Brazile Confesses that DNC Rigged Primaries'', Michael Sainato:
''Kill the GOP'' ... by offering USA's 99% something other than GOP-Lite!!! Anything else is bullshit and ''boring''!! U won't beat the GOP .. even in Arizona - by being some horseshit facsimile of Repugnants!
ad iudicium ...
OK so it was working to put Drumpf in the WH, got it. What a bunch of fucking idiots.
and Jill Stein? ego whore in Chief? what a super idiot, did you see the debates? she was was terrible.
I guess they number in the thousands from the number of votes she got, thank god they are fading quickly. Too bad they are Durmpf supporters too bad YOU are.
Dr. Jill Stein had nothing to do with Hillary losing - HRC and the DNC and Corp. Dems, did that all by themselves!! HRC got 3m more votes in total .. BUT Dem ground game was shit and unfocussed and frankly they could NOT sell her & her horseshit & baggage & now The Clinton Machine is once again turning on Bernie!
''The mind is everything. What you think you become.'' (The Buddha)
multum in parvo ...
Stein is an idiot people who voted for her are idiots and together they helped put drumpf in the white house.
Dr. Jill Stein is closer to OWS' ideas and ideals than Hellary Rotten Clinton ... is .. ever was or ever will ever be .. so is it thus remotely possible that it is U who is a bit of an ''idiot''?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/a-3-minute-clip-that-shows-what-we-must-do/#comment-1073914
re.''the woman who tried to give..healthcare'': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odN4Aq7XjrE
gnothi seauton ...
Jill Stein is also an idiot ego whore that had NO CHANCE to beat Trump so a vote for Jill was a VOTE FOR TRUMP you voted for Trump!
You are like a stuck record and the tune is boring. Do you have anything to contribute about the future - short, medium or long term? Do you ever read anything - ever? How about trying to get a grip on this ...
multum in parvo ...
are pretending like you have something besides "duopoly" to say? when have you ever had anything to say expect the DNC sucks? which yes is true but unlike you I say do something about it you push ONE stupid ideal "split the left in half and let the GOP win everything" or something like that it what I hear when you talk anyway
U mean "the DNC" doesn't suck?!!!! U think the Dems are "left"?!!! NO - they are merely 'Not As Batshit Crazy RW' as Repugnants!! Furthermore, I've written on a lot more subjects than U$A's D&R Corporate Duopoly! Finally, get to grips with this and face the facts - fun or not ...
''Former DNC Interim Chair Donna Brazile confirms money laundering scheme between the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign.''
read it and weep ...
banging that one note Shadz...duopoly...duopoly...duopoly you don't care if Trump is POTUS you don't care about a damn thing but bashing the Dems...
Why are U such a Damn Dem aDICKted Dork?! FFS frf - do U think Dems or HRC'd change this...
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-military-is-the-largest-employer-in-the-world-2015-06-17 ?!!
The charade of GOP or GOP-Lite - is not any kind of choice, as it is now no more than an Ultimatum between a - Completely Corporate Captured, Controlled Opposition, Oligarchy Owned .. DUOPOLY!!!
q. e. d. !!!
As I have gone over with you many times before but I don't mind telling you again, I know learning is hard work. In 2011 80% of the American people supported OWS and its message that the rich were too damn rich, however the founders didn't want to be rude and point out that the GOP work night and day to make the rich richer, if the founders had not been so timid or naive then it would have happened then and a revolution would have occurred then. Now we have been set back by all the fear of being "co-opted", 80% aren't "co-opted" 805 takes over and that is what we must do. We must constantly remind that no matter what NO republican is acceptable.If people here want to change the world they must be willingly to make a choice and to fight for it.
Sure ''the GOP work night to make the rich richer'' - BUT what you continuously choose to deny, ignore and reject is .. That The Dems On The Hill, DNC & Democraps like eg. Debbie Wasserman Shultz and Hellary Rotten Clinton do not give a rat's ass about that!!! Even U, were Strong For Bernie ffs, frf!! Dems Voters may be the salt of the earth BUT Dem Pols are .. in the main, venal scum whose GOP-Lite just does NOT wash or con the 99% any more! More of the same ultimatum between GOP and GOP-Lite is not a path to anything other than More o'The Same Neoliberal Economics/Neocon Empire for The 99%!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/12/how-america-became-a-1-society B.Moyers
and consider http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/40127-the-rich-line-up-at-the-white-house-atm
ad iudicium ...
Alas, your "3 minute clip" really shows what U$A has been doing for 45+ years - ffs frf!!! Also consider:
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-wall-street-financial-industry-may-control-retirement-savings - then, also reflect upon:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/wikileaks-list-least-65-msm-reporters-meeting-andor-coordinating-offline-top-hillary-advisors/ and
http://occupywallst.org/forum/wikileaks-releases-the-transcripts/#comment-1071973 [HRC/GS!]
and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-22/meet-man-who-can-expose-real-hillary-clinton-scandal - for an initial insight into what could be another huge scandal if it is ever fully exposed!
Finally, re.the other crook, consider: https://theintercept.com/2016/10/25/pension-trump-pence/
Now why do you think that US Oligarchy; The Bankers; The War Machine and MSM really want HRC?
ad iudicium ...
I doubt many on here voted a straight Dem ticket like I did, I even checked out my local races in the primary and made sure I voted for best people to represent the Party in the general, it didn't keep Trump from winning the WH, what do you think of his picks? anyway given how many GOP hold public office all over the country what difference does it make? we're screwed might as well go fishing....
Schmuck Shumer, Fancy Pelosi & their ilk are NOT the answer for US' 99% in any way, shape or form!!! What you have to face, brother factsy - is that DNC/DWS/HRC and most Dem Pols are actually more at ease with tRUMP than they are with Bernie!! Bernicrats have just basically taken over California Dems & that is Dem's future OR else with #2020Foresight in mind, fk fishing & let's get organized for a 3rd Party!
Also fyi, see: https://theintercept.com/2017/01/23/lawmakers-in-eight-states-have-proposed-laws-criminalizing-peaceful-protest/ &
and ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/27/trumps-executive-order-officially-gunning-for-muslims + please also note that <20% of all adults in USA actually voted for Trump!!!
Re. Trump's ''picks'' of Billionaires, Mere Multi-Millionaires and Generals ... well it's Oligarchy, writ large! BUT Americans are waking up to that en masse!! Maybe with HRC... most people would still be asleep!! In any case frf, we are where we are & The 99% have no option but to connect dots and get Organized!!!
per aspera ad astra et dum spiro, spero!
right on notme
Thanx comrade. If truth be told, it looks like factsy is a touch despondent BUT the shit has hit the fan to such an extent that ... THE ONLY WAY IS UP!!! Something BIG is clearly going on now!! But it's always darkest before dawn!
spero meliora ...
I encouraged the occupiers that lived in NY to primary Shumer long ago and got roundly rejected by you and others....
I fkn hate Schmuck Shumer & I'd NEVER discourage anyone from getting rid of Corporate Dems, so please don't make shit up or confuse me with others ...
http://occupywallst.org/forum/nothing-really-surprising-in-the-election-this-yea/#comment-1072791 & ...
''Bernie Sanders' BRILLIANT Response To Trump's Speech To Congress''; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eK-5ivYb3o .. & finally, also try to consider:
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/39618-amid-gop-attacks-on-health-care-the-movement-for-single-payer-is-growing
too fkt off for latin ...