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Retribution Against the Financial Elite

Occupy Boston Facing Midnight Eviction

Posted 2 years ago on Dec. 8, 2011, 5:52 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt

Occupy Boston

Live Updates:

  • 10:30:Occupy Boston camp still standing
  • 1:57: police dragging tents from streets
  • 1:40: tents in the streets
  • 1:31: police superintendent: "no intention of evicting tonight."
  • 1:14: reports that police will not raid Boston tonight, occupiers skeptical, dancing
  • 1:08: Atlantic Avenue blocked by peaceful protestors, police stymied by dance party
  • 12:36: report that cops are due in 15 minutes
  • 12:10: deadline passes, tension mounts. Live aerial view
  • 11:45: 7,000-10,000+ occupying Dewey Square
  • 11:25: "arrestable" occupiers to link arms to protect park, "unarrestables" to rally in solidarity across street
  • 11:08: occupiers have erected defensive barricades in anticipation of imminent police raid.

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Occupy Boston is asking all area supporters to join them ASAP. In the event that the Boston Police Department clears Dewey Square tonight, they will meet at 8 am tomorrow at the Suffolk Probate and Family Court at 24 New Chardon St. in Boston. They will also hold a General Assembly tomorrow night, December 9, at 8 pm at the Band Stand on Boston Common.

from Occupy Boston:

This morning, Mayor Menino issued a midnight deadline for Occupy Boston to leave the Greenway. The articulated threat of eviction is a clear and present danger to the community we have built over the past ten weeks. We came to Dewey Square to practice true democracy and give visibility to injustice; we came to see if we could not–in providing for basic needs–maintain a standing indictment against their enforced deprivation within our broader community. With this commitment came hard evidence of economic suffering, evidence that we present at the doorstep of the Federal Reserve along with our democracy, our songs and our chants that echo daily through the financial canyon. Today, the city threatens that community. It threatens the library, where we hold our classes and discuss ideas. It threatens our food tent, which has served thousands of people many more thousands of meals. It threatens our medical tent, which has provided treatment and care to the sick and to the injured. Not only these, it threatens the lives of those of us who have no place else to go. The city has cited concern for our safety as the reason for forcing us back into the streets. But make no mistake; the city’s concern for our safety will disperse when we do. We have therefore taken steps to ensure the safety of the infrastructure we have built, and to protect the most vulnerable among us in the event of the eviction. We are taking down the food tent, the medical tent, packing up our logistics supplies for safe-keeping and working with social service providers and other allies to secure shelter for our brothers and sisters most likely to experience homelessness if and when the city throws away their tents. We take action–today and always–in the name of economic and political justice, freedom of expression and our entire community.

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[-] 7 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Keep on fighting, Occupy Boston. Solidarity and greetings from Norway. Yours s struggleforfreedom

[-] 3 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

Hello Norway !

struggleforfreedom

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Hey :)

Come visit my blog http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/

[-] 1 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

I'll check it out and get back to you !

[-] 1 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Yeah, lots of problems with freedom in Norway too? LOL. Just another repressive country, like yours, of course. LOL. How unlucky we both are.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Some of the rights that you guys in the States are struggling for - like free health care, affordable college and university etc - we have established in Norway, but even though we have less private tyranny here, Norway is also a state-capitalist economy. I want libertarian socialism and both Norway and USA is far from this type of social organization.

[-] 1 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

I dunno about all that. truth is nothing is ever "free". If we were to achieve such goals as socialized medicine and better access to education there would be a raise in taxes. Either way you pay for it. I believe the tax rate rate is 0-47.8% in Norway (correct me if I'm wrong) while here its 0-35%. Personally I'm not against raising taxes even for myself but a lot people tend to get up in arms about it. However there is nothing wrong with the current capitalist system it's just sick and the scales need to be to be balanced. People used to be able to work and achieve and that has fallen to the wayside and that need to be brought back to the front.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

First of all, we all live in a free ride society

http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320872575_the_free_ride_society.html

second, the point is redistribution: Taxing the wealthy and tax cuts/higher pay for low wage income. Norway is not taxing the rich enough in my opinion, but we have a progressive tax system: the more you earn, the more you pay which is a good start.

Capitalism is not democratic: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320871888_replace_capitalism_wi.html

we should strive for more democracy: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320873951_the_society_we_should.html

[-] 1 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

You make an impressive point but I don't fully agree with it. I do Understand where you're coming from though.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

what exactly do you disagree with then..? btw income tax for an avarage paycheck is a little over 30% in Norway

struggleforfreedom

[-] 1 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

Yeah see the average tax rate here for middle income families it between 15 and 20%

Well maybe i don't rightly understand. Perhaps you could clarify. From what I gather on this "free-ride" society is the concept that society is build upon the back of every society prior and everyone does or should have access to the technology that is available. I can't rightly agree with this cause I personally speaking would not have access to these things without actually working to gain it. Therefore I don't feel like I am actually getting a "free-ride". I worked I earned it. The post-man should not have access to the same things as the doctor simply because the doctor work harder to earn it.

I do think your right on more evenly spread the wealth. Everyone should have the ability through work to afford a place to live and maintain the necessities. People should have to strive to achieve more beyond that. It's simple "You don't work, You don't eat."

Unless I'm missing the point. I never said I was the smartest man in the world.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

But we all get much more from society (built up by generations of people before us) than what we contribute. Why should we not all get to enjoy all this wealth that others have built up.

"You don't work, You don't eat"

That´s the most awful thing I´ve ever heard. So a disabled widow should starve to death? I think you know deep down that that´s extremely inhumane and cruel.

Read my article The Society We Should Strive For I think you´ll find this ideology more appealing

[-] 1 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

There's a difference between being disabled and being a layabout. There are people that can't help where they're at and people who just choose to do nothing. I learned that personally. This world doesn't owe anyone a damn thing. It not just gonna hand you things if you stand around smiling like an idiot. Now I don't believe the majority of OWS are layabouts by any stretch of the imagination. The people here just got fucked by a system where work used to mean something. Now you may think thats horrible and i"m inclined to agree. Its not right, Its not fair, but life's not fair. Something else i've learned.

I do think that in a perfect world your vision of society is one i would love to see. I just don't think its plausible.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Most people wnat to work, so it would not be a big problem.

I think all humans should have the right to basic needs like food and shelter no matter what, and I strongly disagree with the ones opposing this principle, and find their ideas extremly cruel an inhumane.

If you´re offended by my opinions then so be it. If someone thinks that some humans deserve to starve, then I have no problem telling them that it is just cruel

[-] 2 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

I agree, I think most people do want to work. Food and shelter should be a given really. But the 1% wants to squeeze out as many hours as possible, as many dollars from our paychecks as possible. They want fear of homelessness and hunger on our minds at all times as well as society shunning us.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Hear, hear!

Please come visit my blog ;) http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/

yours s sff

[-] 1 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

The amount of labor we do, we all could have built our own houses and then given them to our children. In fact, maybe that is what OWS should do, work directly for each other, build our own houses, maybe our own town.

[-] 2 points by BlueRose (1437) 2 years ago

But in a non-society-shunning, non-cultist way.

[-] 0 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

also i appreciate you not talking down to me and opening a respectful dialogue. thank you.

[-] 2 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

If you´re offended by my opinions then so be it. If you think that some humans deserve to starve, then I have no problem telling you that it is just cruel.

[-] 2 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

also if someone can work and get their food then there is no reason for them to starve. However if someone is sitting in front of a apple tree and won't stand up to pick an apple. that's on them.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

We`re living in a modern wealthy highly advanced technological society, not in thestone age, so your apple-example is not very good. You think that some humans deserve to starve, and you deserve to hear that that is just cruel

[-] 0 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

I'm not offended at all. I really meant it.thank you

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

People who think that some humans deserve to starve deserve to hear that their opnions are cruel

[-] 1 points by 00zero (20) 2 years ago

I was trying to be nice, even civil. you changed my opinion about the whole thing. You all want something for nothing. world doesn't work that way.get used to it.

[-] 0 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

we get lots of things for nothing, in the sense that we get much more from society than what we as individuals contribute:

The ”Free Ride” Society

[-] 0 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Gotta love a socialist. "Free" healthcare. Are you too far gone to know how stupid that sounds?

Norway is a welfare state built on large oil revenues spread across a small population. You're like useless trust fund babies. No wonder you think things are free.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Most of the costs of drifting the norwegian welfare state don´t come from oil. "Free" in the sense of free when you need the services. Besides, we get a lot of free stuff in a modern society: The ”Free Ride” Society

[-] -1 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Rights are the things government agrees to let you figure out for yourself, not what it agrees to take from others on your behalf.

If healthcare is a right, then it's someone else's obligation. Those kinds of rights have negative rights forcibly imposed on others by government. No doubt hard for you to understand since it's "free".

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Rights are decided by society. All rights reqiure others obligation. Dont embrace cruel "libertarianism", embrace democracy: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320873951_the_society_we_should.html

[-] 1 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Yeah, sure. Freedom means government leaving things to you, not just taking from someone else for you. A health care right, means having the right for force someone else to provide it. Free sounds so good, best not look behind the curtain to see the negative right that's being created.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Youre way off.Libertarianism means private tyranny. It´s the wealthy who take resourses from us, not the other way around. You should favor democracy, not giving the power to people who are not democratically elected

read my blog http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/)

[-] 1 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Yeah, funny. At least find another word. Calling things you forcibly require others to provide aren't rights. Call them "entitlements". The government decides that some people are able to force other people to take care of them. If you won't comply, you go to jail. See, entitlement fits much better.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Entitlements..oh, you mean like things such as private property on the means of production, and right to exploit and take the surplus value of the worker´s contribution?

[-] 1 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Oh my, you're one of those: a true collectivist. See, your model's been tried and failed miserably. When government has everyone trying to live off the other guy, we all live worse, except for the people in government that preside over it all. The funny thing too is that all of you that want to live off of someone else can never seem to talk those you intend as your targets to stick around to see what happens. LOL.

Rights are the things government leaves for you to figure out for yourself. Seriously, re-take 7th civics and they'll tell you again.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

No, the models youre talking about are leninist ones. Being a libertarian socialist I strongly oppose state tyranny.

This is the society we should strive for: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320873951_the_society_we_should.html

[-] 1 points by Censored (138) 2 years ago

Freedom for you, funded by someone else under government force. Libertarian socialism.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

libertarian socialists want to dismantle government. Please study before criticizing. Did you read the article btw?

[-] 0 points by NewWorldNow (83) 2 years ago

I have not heard something more Orwellian than the OWS newspeak phrase "libertarian socialist". You continue to not get Censored's point - which is that the only way to "give" someone something is to "take" forcibly from someone else.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

i understand his point, but he´s wrong. Its the wealthy that take from the people, not the other way around.

Libertarian Socialism is the way we should organize society: http://struggleforfreedom.blogg.no/1320873951_the_society_we_should.html

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

You are a fool, nothing is free someone always has to pay for it.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Did you not read what I wrote before commenting..? And did you read my article. Again, you argue like a brat.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

"we get a lot of free stuff in a modern society"

Do you not read what you type?

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

We do. Read the article The ”Free Ride” Society. Enlighten yourself.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

I have already dismissed you for the activity of picking lent off my socks

[-] 1 points by OWS1137 (4) 2 years ago

You are so incredibly unintelligent

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

Was that an attempt at an insult? yeah I'm the one who is "incredibly unintelligent"...

Here is an idea, get a job loser.

[-] 1 points by OWS1137 (4) 2 years ago

I work at Wells Fargo Home Mortgage and am in charge of overseeing processes and procedures for the OCC Consent ordered Independent Foreclosure Review.

http://www.occ.treas.gov/news-issuances/news-releases/2011/nr-occ-2011-133.html

As true with all of your previous statements you are incorrect and ignorant. You make no attempt at coming to an actual intelligent stance on anything, you just go around the forum responding ignorantly to topics you have no idea about. The root of being intelligent comes from a willingness to understand and learn things you aren't familiar with; and your close minded absolutist arguments show very clearly that you do not have that capability.

You can continue to assume that everyone in the movement is unemployed, a hippy, unamerican etc, but realize you look like a fool every time you post.

[-] 0 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

Oh so you work for the banks that you are against....

Interesting, you're an undercover agent for the 1% here to make folks think you are on their side as you take away the homes of the middle class.

[-] 1 points by OWS1137 (4) 2 years ago

LOL

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

you should know (you are after all the expert on that field)

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

Duh, that's why I had to tell him/her they failed.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

If you're not American STFU our country is not your problem go fix your own country maybe we would give half a shit what you had to say then and you would understand that the dumbass Chompsky doesn't know WTF he's talking about.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

the economy is global and all-encompassing. American policies affect the whole world. Besides, I also contribute in solidarity with the struggling people in the US and everywhere else. I also dont think youll reach many people with your message with this kind of argumentation.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

what's funny is I have been chatting to people all around the world on forums and most think OWS is a bunch of junkies and spoiled hipster rich kids.

You do prove their point well tho.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

How so..?

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

Well now if you were an American I wouldn't have to explain it you could see it now back to my point of you're not American mind your own business.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

the economy is all encompassing and global. Your argument is not valid.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

You just want America to support you fools who are unwilling to support yourselves.

Again worry about your own country, America will do just fine without your view of how we should do things.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

"Again worry about your own country"

Again, the economy is all encompassing and global. Your argument is not valid.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

How many countries give us foreigner aid?

[-] -2 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

Those arn't rights, if you need I can link the bill of rights.

Now if you worried about your country as much as ours you might get somewhere and not been seen as a dirty know nothing hippie quoting a fool like chompsky making yourself look foolish as well but oh well kids will be kids I guess and you will grow up someday.

[-] 1 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

Welcome to all around the world from ROPEKNOT !

lets get it going and keep the morality compass going straight forward to equal pie sharing !

[-] -3 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

So your still spamming the crap that Americans want nothing to do with but you wouldn't understand because you aren't smart enough to grasp this concept.

Sorry we Americans are better then you and this site that removes real ideas and truth and allows you to spam this tripe.

I hope you all get busted for treason! S.E.A.L. team 6 needs to visit you.

LONG LIVE CAPITALISM!

[-] 1 points by hiddenwheel (83) from Newton, MA 2 years ago

You don't support capitalism! Take a look at a citigroup stock chart from the last five years. It looks like the lifeline of someone who just expired. A capitalist system lets failed companies fail. It doesn't just hand them hundred of billions of taxpayer dollars! That's what a socialist government does. The wealthiest people in this country are not exposed to any of the risks associated with actual capitalism! Anyone paying attention, right or left can see that. So realize that you are not a capitalist, just a fool.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

you argue like a 13 year old brat. Not very convincing.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

And I am still better then the commie piece of shit you are...

calling for theft and violence, yeah you sure are a winner. At least you didn't deny that I was correct.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Im an anarcho-syndicalist... Theft and violence is something that the wealthy and the state know a lot about.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

And you're better for doing the same thing?

Interesting.

"anarcho-syndicalist" = how you say dumbass is Norway.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Nope. I only support violence when its self-defense. Taking back from the rich all that they have stolen is not theft.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

If you have the majority why do you need to use violence?

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

That´s a strawman.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

dodge the question, yeah you're a chompsky supporter.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

Why would I defend or argue for something I don´t stand for..Again, It´s just a strawman.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

again, phase 3

If you have the majority you can vote and decide laws, why would violence be needed?

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

You need to read my article one more time

[-] 0 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

no once was enough and I am already mad because I can never get that wasted 5 minutes of my life back.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

he said he didn't. why are you twisting. get bent.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

read the crap he post... phase 3

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

every mention of it comes only when violence is used against the protesters. if our government wants to act like dictators, they will be treated like dictators. it is our constitutional right to maintain control of our government. i suggest you keep that in mind.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

If you have the majority you vote those people out, why would you need violence?

[-] 2 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

why would our government need violence? who said none of us will vote?

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

"you mean it leaves you with no window for furthering your argument. thats because you're wrong."

no, it means your post makes no damn sense.

I figure it's because you have none of the common variety.

[-] -2 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

dude, that made no sense at all.

[-] 3 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

you mean it leaves you with no window for furthering your argument. thats because you're wrong.

[-] 1 points by struggleforfreedom80 (6188) 2 years ago

No, I think you need to read it again. The Transition Phase: The Road to Freedom

I´m talking about if someone actively tries to violently disrupt or dismantle acivements made by the majority, like violent attacks against different local movements, attemt to with the use of violence dismantle different functions within the movement etc. In a situation like this, where the movement is the majority, violent SELF DEFENSE must be used IF NECESSARY, but as humane as possible, of course. That´s my opinion, and it´s just common sense in my view.

[-] -2 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

And at that point you are the very thing you are fighting against, if you have the majority you have the power of the country and wont need violence because everyone is on your side already.

Anyways I still think you're a dumbass but oh well have a good day and Merry Christmas best wishes to you and your family.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

fraud

[-] 3 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

We paid taxes as citizens to be able to be here, let alone occupy !

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

And what taxes are you paying to "occupy" and how do you have property rights to occupy something that belongs to all stopping the rest of us from using these places?

[-] 1 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

I pay state and government taxes which payed for this area!

no one's stopping you or anyone from being there, come on down!

[-] 3 points by hiddenwheel (83) from Newton, MA 2 years ago

FYI Judge McIntyre who ruled that occupy Boston was committing a "hostile act" by being in Dewey square was appointed by Mitt Romney.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 2 years ago

That figures..... more puppets of the puppets.

[-] 2 points by Mussostalini (3) 2 years ago

Hey guys thanks for completely trashing Dewey Square. I hope that you will make an effort to pay for all of the damage that you have done to the place. I was there this weekend and the guys were working hard (shoveling and getting dirty, stuff that's beneath pseudo-intellectuals like yourselves) to fix it up for the rest of the city to enjoy again. But seriously, solid work wrecking up the place and selling heroin and smoking weed and stuff out there while accomplishing absolutely nothing. I am truly inspired.

[-] 2 points by americanpatriot23 (3) 2 years ago

i dont quite understand, you guys are protesting, getting in the way of working americans that are actually contributing to society. why dont you guys get a job, this whole occupy is a joke. please explain to me how this is signifigant, its like you guys want communism. this protest is anti american.

[-] 3 points by GreenIguana (36) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Go back to school and study economics, history, political science, spelling and punctuation.

[-] 2 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 2 years ago

How can protest be un-American? You sound like a certain former president... Do you know any American history at all?

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

granted the anti american is kinda bad term, but I do agree with the rest.

But to anser your question, un-American would actually be kinda of a point of view. Most of the protesters are protesting the 99% who they feel are being un-American. And on this blog, if a person isnt 100% dedicated to the cause, they are told that they are un-American.

[-] 1 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 2 years ago

I want to see a person who seems to be in line with OWS calling someone unamerican. I haven't seen it. Maybe you CAN actually find one or 2 posts, but that is hardly rampant (but then you say MOST PROTESTERS... well, BULLSHIT!)

Hell in my opinion it is totally fine for you to protest the OWS protest, but it IS unamerican for the government to actually stop the protest, and that is a fact.

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

Well, in short, several times ive been told that I am un-american on this site several times for not fully agreeing with everything said. Infact, been told to get out of the way too.

Most of the time, I try and help the OWS get in gear and go the right direction.

Now, for the government to actually stop the protest is unamerican, well, your actualy in a gray area there. To stop a ligit protest that does not violate other peoples rights, yes. But a lot of the protest have started to violate others rights. That is wrong of the OWS movment to justify violation of others for there own sake.

[-] 1 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 2 years ago

constitution trumps everything... tell me what OWS is doing to violate other people's CONSTITUTIONAL rights!

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

what part of the constitution are you talking about?

Where in the constitution does it give people the right to block other people to go to work? To visit a park peacefully? To have there goods imported / exported thru ports?

As you said, "Do you know any American history at all?"

[-] -1 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 2 years ago

freedom of speech. right to protest. If there are so many protesters that it inhibits people from going to work, then tough luck. that's YOUR problem. I don't see that guarantee in the constitution. You can still visit a park peacefully. maybe not zucotti park but there are plenty others (oh i get it you only want to visit zuccotti park because you want to be contrary.) Well there is no where in the constitution it says abut guaranteeing access to a park.) And the whole port thing, the workers at the ports support the blockade... maybe if you would look into it you could figure out why... oh wait I dont think you have enough brain power to comprehend or think other than what faux news told you.

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

So your right to protest also includes the right to be disrespectful?

[-] 1 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 2 years ago

respect is such an ambiguous term... you can call just about ANYTHING that you don't like disrespectful. in which case.... my answer is YES.

DOn't bother trying to put me in a corner with some politically correct BULLSHIT.

Go ahead tell me how YOU were disrespected... this is gonna be rich

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

This isnt about PC stuff. Just think, you are involved in a movement that will change the world. One of the goals is to make this world (Yes, this is a global movement) a better place. How can you plan on making the world a better place without respect for the people in the world?

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

I think you mean unconstitutional...

[-] 0 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

How the hell are they the 99%?

99% of America thinks these junkies and bums are exactly that and need to go away.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

How can protesting the protesters be un-American?

[-] 1 points by warriorjoe7 (232) 2 years ago

PROTESTING the protesters in NOT un-American... ACTUALLY STOPPING the protesters IS un-American (and unconstitutional)

[-] 2 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

I have a job and if I lose it I'm in for the same as all the rest of the world !

What don't you understand !?

I now have to work 2 jobs to exist !

Where do the morals come into play !?1!!!!?/

I employ people to do what I can't on my own = Your labor = my profits

None of your labor = no profits or business !

They built the pyramids off our our backs

How much more will we accept?

[-] 1 points by barryknight (2) 2 years ago

You mean working people like teachers and carpenters and nurses and electricians and shipyard workers and cooks and farmers and machinists and doctors and journalists? I have stood side by side with these folks at every occupation to which I have been. I have also protested with one former Citibank vice president who was out of a job if that makes you feel any better. Sorry if I sound a bit snarky but the old "get a job" line just shows that you are only choosing to attack something you know little about or more likely have been greatly misinformed about. Ignorance is not as great a shame as being unwilling to learn. Also, yes many at the occupations do not have jobs. This is just one of the many reasons we are fighting. Outsourcing of jobs that have effected many Americans. Jobs that do not pay living wages which wind up costing taxpayers billions because, although they are working, emloyees in low wage jobs still forced to rely on government assistance for health care and food. Walmart may have cheap crap to buy but the reason for that is that they are costing taxpayers billions upon billions of dollars. Please use independent thought and research this for yourself. The information is available to all. You just have to look and stop relying on the corporate media for your "news and information" which in reality is little more than propaganda and in many cases outright lies and lies of omission.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 2 years ago

Protests are communistic? Really?

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[-] 2 points by bigbangbilly (594) 2 years ago

Get some of the protesters as back up protesters appear from either nowhere or the crowds. Get them to surround the police from both sides.

Other than the violent ones use the police's non-violent tactics against them if there is any of those tactics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling

[-] 2 points by shainzona (23) 2 years ago

Good luck - and thank you for standing for all of us.

[-] 1 points by GeorgeVreelandHill (7) 2 years ago

Boston won. Occupy lost.

George Vreeland Hill

[-] 1 points by hardworkerjake (4) from Weehawken, NJ 2 years ago

Look everyone this is how capitalism works. There will be the rich and the poor. The wealthy are those that know how to manage their money and have learned that you can afford nice things when you cut back and save money. Most of the moderately wealthy started like everyone else, but they didnt take a lot of loans on things, only got what they could afford, and didnt spend money eating out or going to the movies all the time. When you figure that out, you will have more money to spend.

[-] 1 points by hardworkerjake (4) from Weehawken, NJ 2 years ago

I am in complete favor of the local police forces. They are out there doing their job and ensuring our freedom. They keep the wicked off the street and keep the peace. If there were no police force, it would be the stone ages again. Many of you think they overstepped their rights, but the fact is the protesters have completely overstepped theirs. When they "occupy" a street and stop traffic flow, what do you expect the law enforcement to do? Many people want the police to back off. That would equal pure chaos.

[-] 1 points by Antifist1 (10) 2 years ago

Yup peaceful violence great job kids guess that fist is working put for you

[-] 1 points by Antifist1 (10) 2 years ago

After a huge surge in arrests on Tuesday, the number of people arrested at rallies related to the Occupy Wall Street movement passed 4,000, reaching 4,400 as of Thursday night. By comparison, the Iranian government only arrested 4,000 total protesters in the massive uprising in that country in 2009.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

And look how it turned out.

They need to put the treasonous trash in prisons or just give the death penalty on the spot.

[-] 1 points by Antifist1 (10) 2 years ago

Why do we have to tax more people? Since many of you want free services why should we even pay these people for a service they provide. Maybe the universities can ask everyone to take a 35% across the board cut? Would that be affordable enough? What is affordable oh that's right let's take it away from the people who earn a living and give it to the people that are not earning it., that is your cause in a nut shell. Oh and by the way maybe the people that actually police the posting should actually follow the rules and and take posts off that they say they will, Merry Christmas to all and a much better 2012

[-] 1 points by Crimzon (91) from Arizona City, AZ 2 years ago

Its sad how the police and states have done this strategically... spacing out the evictions... As to not connect one to the other!

If you think those evictions aren't linked to eachother you'd be dead wrong! I just hope occupy doesnt dwindle and burn out because of it...

I think we'd stand a greater challenge together in one area versus spread out...

The numbers in each Occupy here in America combined would overwhelm the police... they wouldn't try and trample on a protest and run over the first amendment as they have done so senselessly.

Those police aren't only evicting Occupy they are slowly evicting Americans freedoms.

[-] 1 points by hardworkerjake (4) from Weehawken, NJ 2 years ago

Get off your lazy, sorry ass and get a job you fucking government freeloaders

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 2 years ago

Did you say the same thing to the Tea Party protesters?

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

Tea Party protesters paid the fees they are required to and didnt stay for months. Kinda unfair comparison.

[-] 1 points by SwissMiss (2435) from Ann Arbor Charter Township, MI 2 years ago

Your comment is completely asinine. I have a job with which I support myself 100%, and I NEVER have freeloaded off the government.... and I support this movement. Get your head out of the sand.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

okay then you dirty freeloading hippie who do you work for.

yeah that's what I thought, you have no job unless you count cashing your welfare check.

One more thing... shave your pits that's fucking nasty and maybe a little douche would make it so I couldn't smell you from here.

[-] 1 points by barryknight (2) 2 years ago

This is a sign that we are winning. The powers that be do not want people of all backgrounds sharing ideas, educating one another, having civil discourse. It scares them to death. They want people to remain obedient, blind and indoctrinated into a belief system that is a complete lie. Millions have awoken from this nightmare and millions more will. They are doing everything in their power to stop it in its tracks. Too late. The movement has caught fire across the country and cannot and will not be stopped. I was at Occupy Boston for three weeks. Powerful stuff. I hape you chose to fight (peacefully) and reoccupy if their threats are carried out. The physical occupations serve an important purpose. I am occupying in Asheville NC currently and I meet people everyday that are inspired by what we are doing and might not otherwise become involved without the person to person interface. Whatever happens stay strong and keep the movement going strong any way you can. Your day to day conversations with others, direct actions, the internet. The people united will never be defeated. Occupy Asheville stands in solidarity with Occupy Boston and all peaceful occupations throughout the world.

Jan 17th 2012 Congress is back in session. Let's Occupy Congress and send an important message that THEY WORK FOR US AND THEY BETTER START LISTENING! THE PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD AND WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

[-] 1 points by max1956 (1) 2 years ago

Pienso que las instituciones bancarias son más peligrosas para nuestras libertades que ejércitos enteros listos para el combate, si el pueblo americano permite un día que los bancos privados controlen su moneda, los bancos y todas las instituciones que florecen en torno a los bancos, privaran a la gente de toda posesión, primero por medio de la inflación, enseguida por la recesión, hasta el día en que sus hijos se despertaran sin casa y sin techo, sobre la tierra que sus padres conquistaron.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than entire armies ready for battle, if the American people a day that allows private banks to control its currency, the banks and all institutions that flourish around the banks, depriving people of every possession, first by inflation, once by the recession, until the day their children wake up homeless on the land their fathers conquered

Thomas Jefferson 1802

[-] 1 points by jdnreha (85) 2 years ago

Just out of stupid curiosity, why would you camp out in a street?

Besides the fact its a street where car's can potentially run you over, its a street. That to me sounds unsanitary and disgusting. Then you have the oils and gasses. The tar of the street cant be good to inhale.

Not that a sidewalk is much better, but at least its concrete.

[-] 1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

They shit where they eat and you think they will care if something is "unsanitary and disgusting"

They are like the swine from Animal farm, "two legs good" but they are still pigs that roll around in their own shit

[-] 1 points by yoss33 (269) 2 years ago

Bless you Occupy Boston. Stay strong. Solidarity from Canada.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

fuck you Canada worry about your own country

[-] 1 points by vets74 (344) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Please, always and for every OWS action, honor those who have come before us with efforts to civilize and de-militarize and de-criminalize America.

The Nine Principles.

Commitment to Nonviolence is the broad gateway. Nonviolence is the fulcrum. Discipline is the lever. The core message from Dr. King as he translated the ideas of Mahatma Gandhi:


Pledge For Nonviolence

  • As you prepare for Occupy Wall Street, please open yourself to life, love and the blessings of faith, hope, and charity.
  • Refrain from violence of fist, tongue and heart.
  • Walk and talk in the manner of love; for truth and love are the core of life, neither ambition nor the temptations of control.
  • Sacrifice personal wishes that all might be free.
  • Observe with friends, with false friends and with your foes the ordinary rules of courtesy.
  • Perform regular service for others and the world.
  • Pray or simply ask within to be moved so that all men and women might be free.
  • Remember that nonviolence seeks Justice and Reconciliation – not victory.
  • Strive to be in good spirits and in good health. We are the 99% and we must go in peace.

Agent provocateur "provo” incited riots at Air and Space Museum, August 8th, and at Oakland have been the worst of it so far. These were attempts using on-the-payroll thugs to separate Occupy from nonviolence.

Nonviolence, first, combined with love. That is the way Occupy can achieve Justice. That is also how Occupy can achieve Reconciliation with citizens such as the Tea Party people who have been misled into accepting the trillion dollar fraud schemes of Wall Street's gangsters.

Occupy is nonviolent. Occupy is anti-crime.

Btw: Brendan suggests putting the Nine Principles on a banner or a large poster. Back in the 1960s this was a Pledge on 8 1/2x11 dittos that was a required sign-up for the civil rights marchers. (If you can't smell "dittos" then count yourself young and lucky.) Assuming OWS wants the public to read it, he's onto something. Along with Dr. King's personal courage, these ideas are the most of why we have an MLK Day. (This version is implicitly Christian. The originals were explicitly very Christian. OWS is not SCLC but I'm sure that Jesus and Dr. King forgive us.)

His truth goes marching on.

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[-] 1 points by zootsuit (34) 2 years ago

1:31: police superintendent: "no intention of evicting tonight."

STAY ON ALERT, it might be a trap. don't be lulled into complacency.

[-] 1 points by ObamaIsrael (0) 2 years ago

good. bye bye occupy boston.

[-] 1 points by hiddenwheel (83) from Newton, MA 2 years ago

Still here!

[-] 1 points by ObamaIsrael (0) 2 years ago

yawn i'm in my warm house, hope you like the cold weather.

[-] 2 points by hiddenwheel (83) from Newton, MA 2 years ago

Is your mortgage is paid off? Cause I wouldn't get too comfortable.

[-] 2 points by hiddenwheel (83) from Newton, MA 2 years ago

(yes, I know it was grammatically incorrect) you get the idea though. Most of us will be in tents soon and it won't be a form of protest.

[-] 1 points by ObamaIsrael (0) 2 years ago

no this is why i rent a house. duh...and i'm fine where i'm at.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

Thank you for asking, yes it is.

That's because I pay my bills and don't expect someone to hold my hand.

Also I am better then you for it, now get a job and take care of your reponsabilities.

[-] 1 points by hiddenwheel (83) from Newton, MA 2 years ago

I, too have a job and pay my bills, although my mortgage is not yet payed off. I protest because I can see the logical progression of the inter-related business and governmental system in place. It is the only goal of publicly traded corporations (Wall Street) to use any and every method to create profit for their shareholders. There is a limit to how far this philosophy can be taken, left unchecked every person will eventually have to face his or her own limit as wealth becomes more and more centralized. The protesters at Occupy have reached their collective limit. What would have to be taken from you for you before you speak up?

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

The second amendment.

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[-] 1 points by bkoatz (14) 2 years ago

Do not be despaired! From NYC, where our physical encampment has been shut down, I can tell you - even if you are evicted THIS IS NOT THE END! Occupy Homes, Mic Check, Spread the Word, Inform yourself and others, advertise, keep active, support progressive independent politicians.

Our parks, our rights to assemble and our occupations are things worthy of a fight! But though they may have the upperhand in physically removing us from these sites, WE have the moral upperhand, the logical upperhand, and if we keep fighting, democracy and freedom will ALWAYS have the final say.

Solidarity forever, from NYC.

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[-] 1 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

Is there a live Q & A feed ? And how ? Via the INTERNET (live stream) if I can't physically be there ?

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[-] 0 points by Antifist1 (10) 2 years ago

Meet Jeffrey Scott.

The 32-year-old “Occupy Pensacola” protester was arrested yesterday on felony burglary and larceny charges for allegedly robbing a neighbor’s home of furniture that he used at the protest group’s encampment outside City Hall.

Scott was nabbed shortly after victim Ned English called police to report the theft of a couch, a recliner, four wicker chairs, and four couch cushions from his home, according to an Escambia County Sheriff’s Office report.

When questioned by a deputy, Scott stated, “Yes, I took the furniture. I was going to give it back, but haven’t had a chance to.” Scott, investigators noted, admitted entering English’s home through a rear window, taking the furniture, and using some of the purloined items “at the Occupy Pensacola Camp located at City Hall.”

Scott, pictured in the above mug shot, is being held in lieu of $20,000 bond in the county jail. Arrest records list the Virginia native's occupation as "nutritional aid."

Tags: Mug Shot, Occupy Wall Street, Pensacola NOVEMBER 17, 2011Man Wearing “I'm Not An Alcoholic” T-Shirt Arrested, Of Course, For Drunk Driving

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[-] 0 points by billbux (35) 2 years ago

From Nuuzit - Occupy San Francisco camp closed and patrolled by police - http://www.nuuzit.com/newsitem/dw3bl4pXZrN

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

"Give the death of capitalism and a new era of Soviet-style repression and stasis that we won't call "Communism" a chance"

People like us don't need people like you to survive as we support ourselves. Yet people like you need people like us to survive because you are not self-reliant and need income transfers and therefore should be grateful.

Capitalism has created the highest standard of living ever known on earth. The evidence is incontrovertible. The contrast between West and East Berlin is the latest demonstration, like a laboratory experiment for all to see. Yet those who are loudest in proclaiming their desire to eliminate poverty are loudest in denouncing capitalism.

Man's well-being is not their goal.

Every movement that seeks to enslave a country, every dictatorship or potential dictatorship, needs some minority group as a scapegoat which it can blame for the nation's troubles and use as a justification of its own demand for dictatorial powers. In Soviet Russia, the scapegoat was the bourgeoisie; in Nazi Germany, it was the Jewish people; in America, it is the businessmen.

[-] -1 points by TheNewMovement (46) 2 years ago

It appears that you guys didn't get the memo...

THE MOVEMENT IS DEAD!

Some new video games came out and early start of Star Wars starts next week, we have something better to do now and don't need to stand out in the cold with a bunch of homeless hippies and junkies to pass the time.

Sorry but really guys grow up and start taking care of yourselves and your families, or is making your kids sleep in tents in the middle of a New York winter good parenting?

[-] -3 points by OWSMusic (57) 2 years ago

A song for the banksters on Wall Street... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FM3KR9dEOk

[-] 0 points by ropeknot (359) 2 years ago

Got it ! Did it ! Loved It!