Mass Day of Action on 2-Month Anniversary of Occupy Wall Street
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 3:27 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tomorrow, Thursday November 17th, marks two months since the start of Occupy Wall Street as well as International Students Day. To commemorate this two month anniversary, Occupy Wall Street will take to the streets in celebration and in solidarity with people around the world participating in a massive global day of action in hundreds of cities.
In the wake of Bloomberg’s predawn raid of Occupy Wall Street on Tuesday morning, thousands of people throughout the five boroughs and the greater region will join together to take nonviolent action tomorrow. We will gather to resist austerity, rebuild the economy, and reclaim our democracy. We will no longer tolerate a system that only serves the very rich and powerful. Right now Wall Street owns Washington. We are the 99% and we are here to reclaim our democracy.
Schedule for New York #N17 Actions below.
7:00am — Shut Down Wall Street</big>
We will gather in Liberty Square at 7:00am, before the ring of the Trading Floor Bell, to prepare to confront Wall Street with the stories of people on the frontlines of economic injustice.
3:00pm — Occupy the Subway</big>
We will gather at 3:00pm at 16 central subway hubs and take our own stories to the trains, using the "People's Mic". Details here.
5:00pm — Take the Square, Festival of Lights on Brooklyn Bridge</big>
At 5:00pm thousands will gather at Foley Square in solidarity with laborers demanding jobs to rebuild this country's infrastructure and economy. They will encircle City Hall and march across the Brooklyn Bridge, carrying thousands of handheld lights, as a festival of lights to celebrate two months of a new movement to reclaim our democracy.
I agree with the Exaggeration criticisms.
Please dont exagerate the cause as yes it trivialises other movements and undermines our credibility.
Please DONT rise to the bait with commentators who are obviously just trying to get a reaction- it only makes you look as childish as them! And again undermines your credibility.
And remember to give credit to Spain as the initiators- its not about ego
Keep it together-- you can do this. Youve done so well so far.
*A video showing the "Wealth Gap" in the United States. It's useful to see it visually. Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7tmZv1o5Ac
I might have seen it - certainly saw something similar and it deeply angers me - is that the video that shows how the 1% have enriched themselves since 1981 to levels last seen around 1928?
Rise New York!
If you guys manage to close the NYSE for the day, or even just manage to make it open a few hours late, that will be the most important thing you've done thus far.
The NY stock exchange isn't really on Wall and Broad..it's in s server farm somewhere in New Jersey.the market is electronic.
Yes, but the actual NYSE location is where all the action takes place (people working the floor, etc) and plus it's symbolic.
it's symbolic, yes..but it's not really important. OWS has made it's symbolic statements already. it's overkill at this point. everyone get's it. better to lead with ideas at this point..solutions. that's what is needed.
Starting a global protest isn't important? i'd beg to differ... furthermore, what contributions have you made lately? before you make a claim atleast back it up with the right evidence. your argument may be sound, but its not valid.
I'm not criticizing the movement, I'm saying that it will show how much power it has. If the movement has the ability to make the NYSE open a few hours late, it proves it is a force to be reckoned with.
but your degrading past impacts the movement has already had on the world... closing down NYSE wouldn't be the biggest thing they've done. probably one of the most important, but not the biggest.
I'm not degrading pasts impacts. It's just my opinion that closing down the NYSE would be the most important thing done as of yet. I never said the biggest, just the most important. Even if the NYSE is delayed by just a few hours, that would probably make the front page of every newspaper and every news site in the whole world. The impact of that is more historical than nearly everything that's happened in history in the past several years.
it would surely make them punch in a bit late for work.. but wheres the major impact?
The NYSE seldomly ever closes or opens late. It's usually historical when it does. Presidential assassination, market crash, war, etc.
http://financialedge.investopedia.com/financial-edge/1010/Closing-Down-The-NYSE-What-Does-It-Take.aspx#axzz1dvRqCrDj
im not saying it wont be important.. but wheres the real impact? how is it hurting them? having to come in a couple of hours late just means having to leave a couple of hours later... maybe they'll be a bit irritated, but its not something that would shut down their whole administration. it would slow them down but that's really about it.
To the undercover/overt law "enforcers" and unhappy individuals that are so terrified of this movement as to attempt to clog the comments with unabashed nervousness of change that it reeks "yellow belly" stench....I will continue,as other Occupiers, with creating the change necessary for a truly egalitarian world; where resources are protected, nurtured and shared with every living individual on this planet. Creating a world filled with individuals no longer bound to the false notion that a piece of paper with a politician's face on it is an actually resource (unless you count it a great camp fire starter, wall paper or building insulation). I do this for you, those who are scared of the great and growing movement, your children, family, friends and all others; And I pray that you join the Occupy Movement here and worldwide for your children, parents, extended family, friends and strangers....the same strangers who are a part of this movemnment for you!
Cheers xoxo,
Lisa Marie Chadwick
Can we just get you all under the same geo dome and shut the hell up already? What is your purpose exactly? What is the demand list du jour today? No private property? Everyone in a union? Shut your pie hole, get a job, and move on already. Hag.
why do you many of you refer to them as hippies? Just because they are speaking out!
Because its reminicent of the sixties.
The flamers writing snarky stuff about OWS below fall into 2 probable categories: 1. retired crackbloggers with a huge amount of time on their hand and fear that the "unwashed" will eventually bring down the Right wing, 2. Young reactionaries and plants from rightist organizations, also probably with a lot of time on their hands... now back to W ork, so that I can go to Foley Square when I Finish work
Haha this guy has it all figured out. Nevermind honest hard working folk that dont like violence in the streets and atagonizment of cops.
What about the right wing vets praying and waiting for you to finally step over that line you are completely unprepaired for? We can smell you from here-think real hard-think back to the history you disdain and are damned to repeat... You are aligned with the Moores, Pelosi's, Trumpka's, Che's, Stalin's and Alinsky's of the world's gutters. Ponder your own demise as you demand more from a broken system. Stellar stewardship of your one world order, stellar. Wanker doesn't really cover it.
Then there is a certain percent that makes their money following around worthless, freeloading, demanding, liberals on fraudulent claims we all have to pay for... Care to guess again wanker. Right wing-oh yes. Devoted to making your more miserable life more miserable-hell yess. And those retirees sounding off? Care to venture another guess on how many are former military and remember hunting socialists around the world while you were demanding your dads teat again??? Now where did I leave my art degree.
Stop everything, because everything comes from corporations, we need to move into the caves of Pakistan.
You occupiers are not the 99%, your a fringe .02 % if your lucky. The rest of us are just watching you laughing.
Actions like blocking the subway will only cause nuisance to the 99%. So actually to hurt the 1%, actions to be done are :
1) Boycott all Corporate Goods and Services.
2) Pull your money out of Corporate Banks and Investments.
3) Create and Support Alternatives,that threaten Corporation.
4) Enlighten others to Boycott.
this is going to cause major interruptions to the 99% who are on their way to work; getting on subways to go home and on the Brooklyn Bridge. nothing irritates New Yorkers more than being hassled when they are going to and from work. I would say, not a good idea for keeping people engaged in your movement. If I'm on my way to Wall Street (not as a one percenter) but because I work for one of the banks, etc., I'm going to be one pissed off commuter, that's no way to garner support.
22 states -- including NY, NJ, CT, & PA -- allow neither initiatives or referendums (I&R). If you like DIRECT DEMOCRACY, go to "National Initiative for Democracy" http://ni4d.us/ and work to get I&R in your state and every state. Then we can force a Constitutional amendment that will give real power to the people -- power the lobbyists will have difficulty fighting; power that will give teeth to the SEC, OSHA, and the EPA; power that will give our elected reps pause when they try to ignore us.
A lot of people say that they’re down there just to Complain, and that they’re freeloading down at Zuccotti Park.. but they don’t understand, its not just a protest.. its the Ideal Democracy.. its not necessarily an ideal community, but its the ideal form of a community. we should follow their lead all across the world. yes this whole statement sounded a little bit pretentious, but i think they deserve some credit... a group that still isn't identified, has started a global uprising... that doesn't happen everyday.. although you may not agree with everything we say or do... there's still room for consideration..
i honestly don't understand how someone could question our reasons for protesting..
how would you like it if there were two groups of people with one cake, one group got 2/3rds of the cake.. the other group was left fighting over the 1/3rd that was left, then on top of that, they have to each give half of their piece to the people that have most of the cake already.
i dont think we're complaining.. we're just finally standing up for ourselves and saying "Hey, whats going on here?!" now of course someone with that amount of power wont give it up that easy... but as john Locke said... Majority Rules. and guess what? theres only 1 of them... and 99 of us. we just have to make people realize... they're the 99% too. because at the end of the day, if all goes wrong, guess who's vacationing in the new resort they just built over our homes? NOT YOU. so stop being emotional, and start being logical. we CAN win this. Pessimists who go around saying we're hippies and communists, probably don't know the real facts and couldn't recite them to me if they had them in hand.
Who gets credit is really a minor issue as you say. The important thing that we all have to focus on is what the 1% is doing to us and our planet. As one of the 99%, I think this world has to change before the powers that be realize their totalitarian ambitions - if things are let go unchecked, who knows where we'll be in 30 years - I'd rather not find out.
For example, what would their agenda be regarding climate change - that we eventually end up living a frugal existence (when it would probably be too late anyway) - that we're eventually not allowed have cars etc (by 2050?) - after all, the powers that be are quick to blame the ordinary people when it comes to climate change - would any of the above be of any surprise? - after all, the ordinary people are being made shoulder the burden created by the economic crisis that in turn was created by bankers and speculators.
Ordinary people have had enough austerity - now it's high time that the industry and the wealthy made amends - we, the 99% do not owe the 1% a living. The 1% are global social welfare spongers (through bank bail outs, unguaranteed bond payments, tax breaks etc)!
Rise New York!
i like your statement... but there's a minor problem with your reasoning... and its not just you, MANY people make this mistake when protesting for a certain cause. there's too many statistics. when you want to get your point across. you should make people realize the truth, but avoid being overly specific unless the moment calls for it..
your response gave a reason why we are protesting yes, but then someone that reads this would say " wait, i though they were protesting against (whatever they heard)... these people obviously don't know what they're fighting for" when in reality, we honestly DO have a common goal, but its being voiced in way too many different ways. which can be confusing. that's a major flaw on our part, because how can we recruit supporters, if they have no idea what we are supporting....
and then after a while, it seems like we have no clear reason to be protesting...
this is what we need to do, Create a very general list of things that need to be done to improve this country. THEN, go into specifics. we cant work this backwards, because that's when the undecided get confused, and decide that being against OWS is easier then being Pro- OWS. because they think theres way too much issues that they'd have to back up if they ever had to defend the protest.. when in reality, i could count them on one hand.
for people that already know whats going on like me and you, they could read your statement and actually understand its purpose. but for the ones we're trying to convince, it may not be as obvious.
don't get me wrong. your absolutely right, but i think keeping things as general as possible, then working down to the specifics when questioned, is way easier and less confusing.
Yeah, it makes good sense what you're saying - working on the basic issues first before going into specifics.
Rise New York!
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I noticed that several of you are continuously responding negetively on all of the post on OWS web site. Hope you are having fun since you are Not disrupting our day. You can only steal our joy if we let you and OWS is Not letting you. :) Are you one of those self promotioners where the promoter thinks he is being subliminally humble? Keep on playing with the like and dislike arrows, OWS added them to the site just for you.
It's fun feeding the trolls. They add a slight bit of entertainment to my day. It's enjoyable to read the ignorance and regurgitated FOX news filth.
They are our little Karl Roves. Look how cute they are...
yes indeed
What a wanker. Your day will be swell with violence and turmoil for all the innocents, then you have your smelly self to deal with when not with the herd. Think on it. See if what you demand and expect is what the rest of us real "99%ers" are seeing. Check your liberal arts degree at the tent door and ask yourself what you have done for society. Really. Pretty easy to demand and expect and spew radical dogma-cake really. Children do it all day without proper supervision. Maybe you just need supervision still. Go find a uniform and commit yourself- NYC has stellar places for the mentally unstable.
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Love the poster, it's vintage IWW. We need One Big Union to rise again. Collective Bargaining and OWS are the only way to fix the problem.
Please,rethink what you are doing.You are accomplishing nothing except taking attention from where the REAL REMEDIES for our problems are found.The ONLY way to get the 99% of people and this Country back on track, is in STATE and FEDERAL LAWMAKERS,CONGRESS!! Emotions of the people are being led in wrong,fruitless direction,and majority of them don't even know what you are hoping to accomplish.It is very easy to take advantage of people that are suppressed,depressed and frustrated with nothing to look forward to.They can be more effective flooding every lawmaker in this country from city,state to Washington,with messages,phone calls and organized respectful,peaceful presence,instead of the awful way they have had to live and suffer to get" NO POINT WHATSOEVER ACROSS,TO ANY ONE IN PARTICULAR,NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED",except to those in the MOVEMENT taking credit FOR WHAT?.God Bless,Be Safe,and Please RETHINK
"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"
I will continue to support you guys until the good deed is complete. I would love to come down and support you guys, but I actually work for the homeless, the lowest of us 99%ers. Maybe I will find the time to stop by and chit chat soon.
But continue to fight please, for the sake of humanity. The media has been trying to spin this but don't give up. The more people who get fed up with trying to make ends meet in this city and country, the more people will join you guys in solidarity, and we will fight to put the power into the people's hands!!!!!!!!!
I'm in favor of the gathering at Foley Square but not in occupying the subway. I don't understand the rationality for it as it only makes life even more difficult for the 99%. Better actions/demands are as follows:
Amazing poster - shout out to the many talented OWS Artists!
This movement is not nonviolent. You are using physical force to prevent people from carrying out lawful activities. People have a right to work and make a living if they are doing it legally and the majority of people who work on Wall Street are abiding by the law. Dictionary.com defines violence in one way as "an unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power, as against rights or laws. Additionally there have been threats to burn New York down, fire bomb Macy's, etc. In the 2 months you people have been there you have shown your true colors. There have certainly been more criminal acts than attempts to engage in productive dialogue regarding responsible changes. You are nothing more than violent thugs.
what a bunch of pathetic wankers. what is the message of today? take, demand, destroy, and gripe about no application of worthless lib arts degree in real world work place? what is message? peddle this bs in cuba and take a shower.
I smell something occupying your pants, geez wipe yourself
Yes that will stop those rich 1% flying over all your nonsense, good plan
Calling Occupy Belgium
Transparency demanded in Dexia and Fortis scandals immediately.
Politicians to be held accountable, repay taxpayer's money in the two bailouts.
OWS= Young idiot hippies and homeless begging for more free stuff... Half of these folks are treating this like it's woodstock. The only difference is that they are costing tax payers and businesses millions, just so they can be on tv. As far as comparing them to the tea party, I would say they're the complete opposite. No clear message, violence, drug use, rape and very bad hygiene. The tea party paid for permits and had zero arrests, rapes, homicides and they didn't destroy businesses.
i'm a lib but i have to agree
Great poster!!! Where's the hammer and sickle? I wonder if the left wing dummies know that their leadership are really implementing communism? I wonder why they would want so much less freedom with a communist government. KGB coming into your homes and putting you in prison!!! Sounds like a great way to start the day!
I guess its worth it to have someone hold their hand and baby them through life.
They would rather have a botox hag tell them how to live and where to live than make a decision for themselves-all while she plays both sides of union and labor and morons against each other. Mob rules will come back to haunt your worthless ideals useless idiots.
This rebellion is making a powerful statement, your rapid successes are impressive, almost stunning. I must comment on one failing of the actions in general however (now don't get your knickers in a knot). Your greatest failing to date is fashion, You all are not "styling". Where are the flowing rouge capes of old or the bold unfurled flags leading the marches. No bronze headgear, no shield, have you no taste? How can you hope to compete with the traditional NYC Navy/white uniformity or the custom pinstriped riot helmets. Where are your gallant steeds and finely honed pikes? Where are the banners. Have you never read the textbook for the masses "Dress for Success?" You can utilize all your strategic plans. You can awe some ( no, not awesome) with your code language, your humor, your perseverance, your ability to turn pain into love and hope. But, You're never going to be taken seriously without some serious flair. † God be with YOU †
http://occupywallst.org/forum/hosni-bloombarak/
The raid by the Police was very sad.
But more troubling to me was the distruction of the LIBRARY. This senseless distruction reminded me of Kristallnacht. Did thse books realy represent a danger to WALL STREET? Think about it. If you have not heard of Kristallnacht look it up.
History repeats itself. I hope the Leaders of the United States do not take us down the same road as NAZI Germany.
They only like recent history, nothing with any import. The nazi's support their cause, and the communist, and the nambla's of the world. They will repeat it happily and only act surprised after all is said and done. Useless idiots a term you have heard right?
If you shut down the subways the 99% who live in the outer boroughs won't be able to join you for the 5pm. I understand the Stock Exchange. But leave the subways alone. It is hard enough having to take the train as it is.
7:00am - Annoy some people going to work.
3:00pm - Annoy some people on the subway.
5:00pm - Get drunk and run around with flashlights.
Hey, at least getting arrested isn't on the agenda... yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xq3BYw4xjxE
This is only the beginning, much has been accomplished. With time a more focused plan will develop. Do not let the "powers that be" attempt to steal your momentum. Be strong and fight the urge to stoop to the oppressors level, you are above that. The 1% will attempt to create controversy amongst the 99% as it is a way to distract from the progress made and the eventual truth that will be uncovered. Be proactive and ensure that contingency plans are in place as I fear, that at some point, violence will be inevitable. This movement can not stop until the fed is abolished and our polical system is completely revamped. A new media source must be created that focuses on the truth and does not have a hidden agenda. Further, the crooks on wall street must payback main street for their bad bets. If they choose not to payback America, they must be jailed. The fact that they are still walking the streets is pure insanity. The 1% does not expect you to last through the winter. Prove them wrong and the movement will blossom this spring !!!
Good luck tomorrow...hope some will join our protest in front of St. Vincent’s at 1PM to 1:30 a die in where Bill Rudin’s luxury condos are.
For over achievers -- John Liu was many of the Unions choice for mayor and mine--- John Liu is a dead man walking....read why http://mayorbloombergkingofnewyork.blogspot.com/2011/11/citytime-saic-bloomberg-murdoch-why.html
Re: Occupy the Subways. I have two comments on the topic. For one, I support any activities that occur that do NOT prevent/restrict travel. Many of the 99% take the subway to get to/from work (if they are fortunate enough to have a job), to/from job interviews (if they are lucky to get one), or to/from picking up their children from day care. If traffic is blocked, we'll lose support of many. Secondly, I hate the fact that the MTA always raises fares but do not accept pennies in their vending machines nor with the customer service agents. I am broke and unemployed and EVERY penny counts! Pennies are U.S. currency and should be accepted!!! Worst case scenario, they can invest in a coin counter in their agent booths. I'm so sick and tired of these fare hikes and they won't even accept our money. EVERY PENNY COUNTS!!!!
The overt protesters will be the red herring while some will sneak in secretly and subtly. If the overt protesters fail the ones pretending to be stoc traders will start the protesting. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BavarianFireDrill
How interesting that y'all named it after a Greek Marxist terrorist organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Organization_17_November
Occupy Wall Street began on September 17th. Tomorrow is November 17th. It is the two-month anniversary. You are confusing "naming" with "math."
I see. So the name of the action "N17" (and twitter hashtag) isn't the actual "name" after all. It is only "math". Glad you think so. It is named N17, just like the terrorist group. Math aside, it is still an awfully relevent name to have chosen. Yes. Name.
I wonder, do you believe in numerology too?
I don't believe in coincidences like a Marxist terrorist group's name being recycled so conveniently.
It's a shame you do. I've met and spoke with enough OWS members to know that it was intentional by someone - even if you yourself would never have done so.
Your basis for the post was letters and numbers. OWS, Occupy Wall Street, it could have easily been Occupy NY but somehow it just wouldn't have had the impact. N17 is another you pointed out, November 17, nothing mysterious about that.
You're hearing horses and looking for zebras.
So rather than naming it after the "anniversary" (which is actually its second month-iversary, by-the-way); perhaps 60-OWS or whatever, they name it after the day . . . the same date-name used by terrorists.
Great move!
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Occupy Reno will March in Solidarity with the World 11/17/11!
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http://mayorbloombergkingofnewyork.blogspot.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-stepped-in-to-150.html Is Brookfield worth 150 billion using Federal loan money from 9-11 to hire retired NYPD officers to violate US constitutional rights of protestors?
Yes, resist austerity. Austerity means the poor and middle class have to pay the price for the criminal activities of the 1%. No one will make them pay or suffer in any way. Does anyone disagee with that statement? Probably not. But the result of not making them suffer or not wanting to upset them is someone else has to pay. Who would that be??? Maybe people who are powerless to fight back. The rest of us. And if you think you are exempt, you could be next in the unemployment line or having your home foreclosed. Please try to understand what is happening here.
"Yes, resist austerity. Austerity means the poor and middle class have to pay the price for the criminal activities of the 1%."
THANK F* [whoever you believe in], someone has it!
Why can't people understand the GENERAL term for Austerity is deficit reduction, yes. HOWEVER it isn't a good thing when you are cutting social programs like Medicare and Medicaid. We cut those programs, yet we keep our bloated defense budget and other programs advocated by the filthy rich.
The kicker is that I'm a tax payer. I have a decent job with a decent wage. I want the government to become fiscally responsible without destroying the middle class and it's programs. With that being said, I have NO issues with the government taking a fraction of MY income to help fund programs that will benefit myself and millions of others.
And before anyone throws up the argument "Oh the rich pay taxes what do they get?" http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/08/irs-1470-millionaires-paid-no-income-tax-in-09/1 and http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/03/major-corporations-tax-subsidies_n_1073548.html
Here, I even wiki'd it for some of you too lazy to: In economics, austerity is a policy of deficit-cutting, lower spending, and a reduction in the amount of benefits and public services provided.[1] Austerity policies are often used by governments to reduce their deficit spending[2] while sometimes coupled with increases in taxes to pay back creditors to reduce debt.
My family doesn't happen to make enough money to pay taxes. However, the way this works is we are taxed all year and then all that money just comes back to us, and while it's nice to get to pay off whatever emergency debt we've gotten in the process, I'd rather that money was kept if it meant, for example, that my family and my friends and neighbors could seek medical help whenever they needed it. It makes me sad indeed that single-payer health care has fallen off the discussion map.
Again that is a service I would happily pay taxes for. If an extra amount of money is taken from me so anyone can walk into a hospital and get proper medical treatment... start taking.
时间将言论变成行动。 让我们结束其腐败裁决。 Long live OWS!
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The only way you, OWS, all will make a difference is if you affect the day to day operation or flow of life, commerce, and or government. As i once witnessed in France, their government wanted to raise fines, tolls, taxes, etc. on all commercial truck drivers and trucking companies. What happened next was amazing. All French trucking companies and drivers criss crossed their trucks across all major highways in their country, completely blocking and disabling the transportation of all goods throughout the country. This lasted for about a week or less, until the government backed down and reversed its decision. It worked because it takes a protest of this scale to affect change. Occupying a park, although symbolic, will never ever ever do anything to change how disgustingly our government and the rich control all our lives, and continue to make the rich richer. You need to regroup, and i mean regroup all OWS protesters from across the country to a few very large simultaneous protests because small groups here and there won't really make a statement and can be easily intimidated and disbanded by authorities. You need a board of smart leaders that can effectively communicate a set of real smart ideas and demands and better organize the movement. You need to continue to use social media as a way to communicate as they did in the middle east to oust their dictators. But most of all you need to make one massive statement by protesting and affecting the day to day operation or flow of life, commerce, and or government. It will be the only way that you will get the govt and the rich to stop.......turn around......and stare in awe at the EPIC scale of the movement before them, and realize that the time has come, and that We The People have officially drawn the line in the sand, and are no longer willing to play their game any longer. IT IS THE ONLY WAY. Thank you.
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Please, your goals aee great but your nott thinking enough about the fulll 99%
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"Reclaim our democracy"
Right on. Keep it up, despite police brutality.
Excerpt from The Transition Phase: The Road To Freedom:
"We should also bare in mind that in any stage of this struggle for a free democratic society we have to expect lots of opposition from the elites and their supporters and servants. Not only do we have to expect and prepare ourselves for media-propaganda, we also have to expect more police brutality. Its a natural reaction of the finacial elite who will become more and more scared of the movement(s) as they grow. The state and government are often very servile to the wealthy finacial elite, especially in the US where the wealthy more or less control policies. The police is a tool of the business-run, or business-influenced state to try to crush the ones who want to take back from the wealthy what has been stolen thru bailouts, exploitation and speculation at the stock exchange. The elites are starting to feel threatened, they want to keep all that they have stolen, so naturally they want to stop The Occupy Movement and anyone else involved in the struggle with police force. These tendencies are however an indcation that we´re on the right track: The elites are getting scared, and react by increasing their effort in trying to crush movements. The finacial elite will however fail. Police brutality is counter-productive, it just leads to more support and sympathy for people engaged in the struggle among the general population."
"What you should do is exactly the kinds of things that are going to lead to hysteria among privileged and powerful people" - Noam Chomsky
solidarity from Norway yours s struggleforfreedom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKFcUb9gr1s
Gooooo!!! Good luck guys!
What about all those butch hag types with lots of armpit hair? You forgetting them for a specific reason or trying to get the image out of your pea brain?
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And replace it with what? Are you in LaLa land? or more correctly, in the land of the heroin nod? I mean c'mon you morons. What are you going to do, close the banks and then what? It's a matter of time before the national guard is called in, and we see a state of emergency
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ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country owes you or su casa es mi casa
how can you reclaim democracy when you do not believe in it. sex drugs and anarchy is not a solution. oh by the way -- to the kids around the world who climb around garbage dumps looking for scraps to sell, you are the 1%
I hear you folks have 700 members worldwide now! Keep up the great work!
thats not even close.. try a few hundred thousand....
My point is that is compared to 150 million Americans who are conservative. We are the Apple Pie folks and we will not go down easy. And our favorite club is the NRA. And Auto Club.
you lost me there.. whats the NRA ?
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Fight the good fight. The 99% are 100% behind you.
alternative institutional arrangements for the majority of people VS anti-capitalist slang By labelling the Occupy movement "anti-capitalist", those who do not want reforms have been able to avoid the real debate. This has to stop. It is time we use the Occupy movement as the catalyst for a serious debate on alternative institutional arrangements that will make our capitalism better for the majority of people.
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NY1 fired camera man for allegedly staging us as we protested outside Bill Rudin, Rudin Management luxury condos 120 West 12th Street asking for a hospital. The camera man did not stage us and they won’t discuss it. He is fired. Please call NY1 and ask them why they would fire a camera man for reporting the truth? Are they protecting Bill Rudin and Mike Bloomberg and the worst city planner Amanda the people’s Burden who push through zoning for greed and stupidity and put safety and the best interests of the People last. We need a hospital in the West Village. http://suzannahbtroy.blogspot.com/2011/11/ny1-fires-good-honest-camera-man-call.html
Awesome looking forward to tomorrow. Doesn't anyone wonder where the constitution is with our right to assemble? Seems to me all this police action doesn't look a whole lot different than what happens in Egypt, Syria, Libya, Yemen guess only corporate powers are allowed to shut down protesters!
you need to be protesting the biggest killer of american small businesses and jobs - walmart. go block their parking lots and do not allow people to shop there.
The big-biz = "bad" while small-biz = "good" dichotomy isn't necessarily true, as noted left-liberal economist Doug Henwood points out. (Oh he also points out the myth/lie of "leaderlessness," specifically saying there's "a small cabal" at the center. http://www.againstthegrain.org/program/494/id/451141/tues-11-08-11-wall-street-populism-and-left
I'm sure that will happen in due time. Here in DC, Wal-Mart wants to open six stores over community opposition, but with the support of the Mayor. They wanted to break ground this year but opponents have held them off so far with a variety of tactics. More Wal-Marts are planned for Montgomery County, where a lot of Safeay and Giant customers have pronounced Wal-Marts food to be unacceptable, so they claim they won't buy groceries there. Hopefully that will prevent Wal-Mart from exterminating their competitors.
As far as I am concerned, anything goes when opposing Wal-Mart. Here's a good way to totally screw up any grocery store, will work great on Wal-Mart. A bunch of people enter the store, fill shopping carts to the top with nonperishable items, then abandon the carts and leave-nothing arrestable in that! The crew will have to stop serving shoppers and reshelve everything, meaning long, long lines. Pay for the crew doesn't change, only the nature of the work being done. Customers seeing the long lines bail too, and enough of this and they stop coming back.
There are a LOT of abandoned Wal-Marts in places like Chicago (5 abandoned Wal-Marts) where people didn't shop there and they also will close the store if the workers form a union. There are lots of ways to close Wal-Mart down.
I love this idea. They are going to build another one in my small county of under 150,000. It will be the third one!! YUCK!!!!
i love it ..keep the ideas coming ..and the action going
http://suzannahbtroy.blogspot.com/2011/11/nypd-strong-presence-in-advance.html this will take you to my other blog with photos to show you NYPD already “occupying Washington Square Park”. I didn’t post photos but NYPD already gathering Union Square on south side University Place. This protests are overwhelming peaceful -- even the little emperor of NYC and his mini-me Christine Quinn who wants to be mayor so Mike can have a 4th term from the golf course have to agree OWS peaceful.
If you want to camp outside St. Vincent’s http://mayorbloombergkingofnewyork.blogspot.com/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-invited-to-camp-out.html now closed so Rudin Family billionaires can make more billions with condos I am sure you will be welcomed with open arms.
We have a protest Peaceful long term community activists 1-130 tomorrow St. Vincent’s Please come -- you can walk from Washington Square Park -- just a quick show of support for “die in” http://mayorbloombergkingofnewyork.blogspot.com/2011/11/speak-out-and-die-in-st-vincents.html since we have no hospital west village
Meet at Liberty Square at 7AM.
Will breakfast be served?
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Sometimes things are destroyed to be rebuilt Just look at Iraq! LOL I vote for 6 week vacations like Brazil instead of stressed out 2 weeks a year! And two hour lunches like in France.
Flower, You have got my vote.
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Have any of you coughed up your money to help those as unfortunate as you? And how, exactly, do you plan to change things? By harassing members of communities as they go about trying to go to work, pick up their children from school and get to and from the grocery store? You're embarrassing yourselves by the way you're treating your communities. Look at the mess OWS made in NYC. Filth, urine, fecal matter, used hypodermic needles, piles and piles of trash and broken glass. That was reported by one of the other 99% that works for the NYC sanitation department that had to clean up after you stunk up the area. Have some respect for the people you're harassing. Your beef isn't with them, it's with the banks. The behavior at the OWS camps across the country has completely undermined whatever it was you started out wanting to accomplish. You are not to be taken seriously. You just haven't figured it out yet.
You know what might help "rebuild the economy"?? Going out and getting a fucking job....
They are the unemployable.
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have some empathy. "barely surviving" off your living? think of how many millions of people AREN'T SURVIVING OFF ANYTHING. the truth is we could ALL be doing better than we are, and this movement will affect that change.
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I love you all............
'And these words shall then become Like Oppression's thundered doom Ringing through each heart and brain, Heard again - again - again -
You have risen like Lions after slumber In unvanquishable number - You have shaken your chains to earth like dew Which in sleep had fallen on you - Ye are many - they are few.' A prison for the mind is not you
In Los Angeles, the media is spinning your event as block traffic day and is warning it's viewers how to avoid being stopupied by the occupy movement. When does Robin Hood appear and we actually focus our actions on helping the 99%?
http://occupywallst.org/forum/where-is-robin-hood-within-the-occupy-movement/
Here is my backup plan for this event: http://occupywallst.org/forum/flash-protesting-an-idea-to-consider/
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oh goody. More smelly hippies..headed for the slammer
Get back to the Tea Party!
Rise New York!
get back to your shit bucket
Pretty low I must say - is that the best argument you can put forward?
Rise New York!
Rise to what? The smell, the hypocracy, the utter lack of decency?
Rise to what?
Rise to crony capitalism which is nothing to do with free markets, and certainly nothing to do with the welfare of people - you know those things that move around the streets on two legs - yes, they're called people and people have feelings you know!
Decency? what decency is there in this current corrupt economic system. BTW, I'm not part of any occupy movement and I live near Dublin (Ireland). I sympathize with OWS though!
Rise New York!
Why the assumption he is with the Tea Party? A left liberal couldn't like this movement or hippies?
Obviously a valid point, but wasn't 'stevo' the one branding the whole of OWS a bunch of hippies - in short, you give as good as you get (even if I'm not part of any occupy movement). Interestingly, I saw a video of one occupier demanding funds for rebuilding infrastructure and creating employment in the process - hardly a hippie!
Rise New York!
Also, can Tea Party members not be apart of the movement?
His branding is about as wrong as you branding him as a Tea Party Person.
Yeah, I know - I can't find anything wrong with what you're saying - I don't intend to take this bickering with 'stevo' any further because it would just be plain stupid at this stage!
Rise New York!
Awh yeah stevo. :)
I love the "RESIST AUSTERITY" tag-line
Yeah that's what I want.
Sure, more gov spending, resist logical restraint.
What doucebaggery this movement has fallen to.
Tax the rich. Tax the corporations. Tax Securities transactions. Give people jobs and get the economy moving again. This is only rocket science to a libertarian parrot.
Agree - I think we eventually need to force governments of industrialized/agricultural countries to form a global trading block to thwart the efforts of the wealthy in stashing away assets in off-shore tax havens. With such a trading block, external transactions could then be subject to very high tariffs (we get them either way) - this should stop any small island state such as the Cayman Islands from taking advantage of harboring the wealthy corrupt.
Rise New York!
I have a hard time beleiveing they are even real people, how could they be so dumb?
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Resist austerity? Spending more than the govt takes in is NOT ficsal responsiblity and creates debt.
Have we not had enough austerity already? The spending end of things have already been substantially cut - now we must focus on what's coming in to the coffers - of course, you know what I mean!
Rise New York!
What austerity are you talking about?With 15 trillion in debt and climbing, NO, there has not been enough austerity. Cut the spending, Cap the spending, and Balance the budget.
Get ready to drop your asiago bagels and fruity coffee. You haven't seen austerity if you were born here and are under 50. What complete wankers. Why are you not following your CNC around and letting him and his cronies know what is going on? There is half the problem-you are the other half, but you would rather stop honest folks from going to work. Sweet. Libtard.