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Forum Post: You Want to bring about real reforms? Address the ROOT CAUSE!

Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 24, 2011, 10:10 a.m. EST by LSN45 (535)
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I have no problem with people making lots and lots of money - as long as they don't subvert our democracy and disenfranchise the American voter in the process. The influence needs to go back to who the founding fathers intended - the people (some "wealth redistribution" will happen automatically as the rich and powerful are no longer able to twist the laws in their favor).

For the sake our our children and future generations of Americans, we need to take back our democracy from the rich and powerful who are using their vast sums of money to "speak" as if they represent millions of Americans. They are twisting our laws and manipulating our policies in their favor at the expense of the average American. The $50 or $100 a normal American may give to a political campaign becomes meaningless when corporations or other special interests are handing our millions to buy political access to the decision making process. Here's my 2 cents on what we need to do:

For decades now the corporations and special interests have had our "representatives" bought and paid for (both on the right and the left). Don't get distracted by the symptoms - we need to address the root cause. Concentrating our efforts on getting the money out of our politics is the best way we can create an environment in which further reforms can be realized. Until we end the current system of legalized bribery (campaign donations) and paid lobbying our politicians will continue to be the LAP DOGS of the corporations and special interests. What we need first and foremost is real, loop-hole free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!! If the corruption is not dealt with first, the chance of any other meaningful reforms becoming a reality is almost zero - the special interests will just use their money to buy votes and put forward bills that create loop-holes or otherwise twist the law in their favor. If we want our children to live in a country where there vote matters, we need to get the money out of our politics, otherwise they will increasingly become the 21st century version of the "landless peasant." Spread the word - End the LEGALIZED BRIBERY!!! CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM needs to be THE main goal of the protests!!!

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[-] 1 points by Vincenzo (47) 12 years ago

Hear! Hear! Please heed the post of LSN45! Nothing will change without campaign finance reform.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

thats great and everyone knows that. but there is other damage that needs to be undone. concepts that have been intentional spread that psychologically shift power. the very term "job creator" is fiction. one does not create a job. it's nonsense. you need a concept that you can spread in the media in one years time that will counter or even reverse the idea. half of what has been used to get us here is psychology. educating the public on concepts that have no base and serve the interest of the few, and allowing the public to once again understand that without them, the few have nothing.

building a social strategy is as important if not more so than the legislation. they know we have the power to do it and this is the real reason they want to control the web. not because what we have now, but a database of deadbeat employers, or a website the keeps a resume online for elected officials. policing the police can even be accomplished in this fashion. with a plan and structure, these small but powerful changes can be implemented with minimal cost and maximum efficiency over the web. market these new resources much the way Angie's List has succeeded.

[-] 1 points by Vincenzo (47) 12 years ago

"but there is other damage that needs to be undone. concepts that have been intentional spread that psychologically shift power. the very term "job creator" is fiction. one does not create a job. it's nonsense. you need a concept that you can spread in the media"

And how will we spread a concept in the media when the media is owned by so few corporations? Ask them nicely? The answer - the ONLY answer - is campaign finance reform. Fix that, and lots of other things become a lot easier to address.

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) 12 years ago

thats why i'm looking for writers. they try to discredit me and even tried to shut down my facebook, but dude i am already on it. i am the admin, we need lots more writers. i'm sure you can tell writing isn't my thing. but i understand SEO and web marketing. http://citicommons.com and of course things will change and improve as we go. the idea is to compete on the web with the likes of CNN, Time, all with citizen journalists and blogs. notice that i require writers to have and maintain there own blog or site as well. check it out.

[-] 1 points by MaryS (529) 12 years ago

Thank you. Great comments.

[-] 1 points by ustaknow (14) 12 years ago

Well said

[-] 0 points by BofL (434) 12 years ago

Everyone who agrees, as I do, please follow the conversation back a couple of steps and let's consolidate our effort http://occupywallst.org/forum/interesting-read-about-the-constitution-and-corpor/#comment-413890