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Forum Post: You do NOT want to miss the MARINE who took on 30 COPS on Wall Street!

Posted 2 years ago on Oct. 22, 2011, 5:36 p.m. EST by TIOUAISE (2526)
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Sergeant Shamar Thomas is the ultimate patriot, the quintessential American hero.

This Marine is a REAL MAN, a DECENT human being honoring the image of God in which he was created. NOT just an unthinking COG in the GREAT AMERICAN KILLING MACHINE.

Well over 2,400,000 people have already seen - and heard! - him on YouTube lambasting the NYPD officers:

"It does NOT make you tough to hurt these people!"

"There's NO HONOR in this shit!"

"Why are you doing this to people? They don't have guns!"

"There's NO HONOR in harming unarmed civilians!"

While many Occupy Wall Street demonstrators had been arrested for merely crossing the street, he exclaimed, "These are U.S. citizens peacefully protesting! These are the people you are supposed to protect!" The NYPD officers he addressed dared not to touch him.

Sergeant Thomas continued denouncing the NYPD's actions shouting, "This isn't a war zone! I've served overseas, that's a war zone! Get rid of your batons and helmets!"

[Orignal full version] 1 Marine vs. 30 Cops (By. J. handy) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEHcOc0Sys&feature=related

I also recommend some of the interviews that followed:

Sergeant Shamar Thomas on Occupy Wall Street: "It's not a war zone" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Jpn5D73cQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

occupy wall street - USMC Sgt Shamar Thomas on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEm87vZ82E&feature=related

IMPORTANT UPDATE : A new group of 20,000 Marine Veterans calling itself "Occupy Marines" announced on October 24 that it has taken a clear and unequivocal stand against perceived police brutality against peaceful assemblers. This is part of what they had to say :

"Beyond this basic intention of protection, the group also hopes to "diminish what we believe to be the 1 percenter's attempt to discredit what OWS was attempting to achieve by expressing, or influencing, public opinion with such excerpts as: The OWS participants are unemployed, hippies, or college kids looking for a handout; They are anarchists; and They are a movement organized by the 1% for control purposes.

"Our initial goal by coming forward was to legitimize the OWS argument that should America continue down the path currently set forth, America will eventually cease to exist. OccupyMARINES wants America to understand her military, though employed at the time by the Federal government, are Americans that have freely elected to defend her, to sacrifice individual life should it be required, and will not stand idly by as the 1% continues to rip out the heart of America."

For more, see : http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-marines-stand-with-occupiers/

Also: http://www.litterareport.com/story/8d7d8ee069cb0cbbf816bbb65d56947e

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[-] 4 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

That marine was fantastic. The media won't be playing that on their propaganda show.

For the protest to guarantee winning the next election the plan needs to be force the multinationals to buy all their supplies only made by American workers. Prevent any imports from China and known slave states from being unloaded. The 13th amendment abolished slavery. Having slave made goods in America is unconstitutional.

Unions should have their own pay scale. Any workers who don't want to join the union will need to negotiate their own pension, their own wages, their own health care. Workers who refuse to pay dues need to be penalized, not rewarded. Let the scabs get screwed and they might get the message.

End all tax deductions or tax credits and use a sales tax to collect taxes so even criminals will pay their taxes. Eliminate the entire IRS which would save $400 billion annually. The FAIR TAX does this. The Congress hates the FAIR TAX because it eliminates their tax loophole kickbacks for bribes. That's why they misinform the public when they call the FAIR TAX regressive.

To refuse to vote for that platform would be stupid and insane.The privileged keep ripping off all the rest of us and the public is in their propaganda trance allowing that to happen. Any person against this plan is sabotaging the OWS protest and needs to be heard. Let's hear any reason to oppose this end globalization screw job. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/

[-] 1 points by owstag (508) 2 years ago

You have some good ideas here, but a lot of these things are of course easier than done (e.g. "force the multinationals to buy all their supplies only made by American workers."). Uh, how exactly do you plan to enforce that?

I'm a bit confused though; here you're talking like you're part of the protest, while in another thread you describe the protesters as smelly loafers.

I'll check out your link though, space cowboy.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

I never said anything was easy. I keep saying it would be hard work while sitting in the park accomplished a lot but that is only phase 1. From the attitude I have heard they will go nowhere. Its a shame.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

Lunacy has engulfed all Americans

Every American person who demands believing complete nonsense is in a trance that makes lunacy look mild. To not want to know that George Bush was warned more than 40 times for months before 9/11 and then FBI Director Tom Pickard jumped into Attorney General Ashcroft’s face on July 12, 2001 in Ashcroft’s office in front of many people proves beyond any doubt that Bush ordered the spectacular collapse after the Arabs’ plane hit. This is unquestionable that there are many witnesses who would be crazy to lie about what Shennon wrote and published because Ashcroft told Pickard that he didn’t want to know anything about having a terrorist attack proves they planted the explosives way before 9/11.

Nobody but Bush and his creep friends did it. Nobody on earth who could order the 9/11 crime to start the Iraq war but the only person who demanded we attack Iraq was Bush and Cheney. This is red meat for OWS but they are liberal wimps afraid to blow the whistle now that the cameras are on. First we need to go directly to NYPD headquarters demanding a meeting with the NYPD Counter terrorist command about this evidence.

For any person on earth to not want to know that Bush did that is beyond moronic. Since all people aren’t stupid, the fact can only be that they are in a brainwashed trance.

The OWS people should be using this incredible situation to be specific about Bush and all creep fiend, screwball friends who would be part of this. The fact that the OWS people are protecting Bush proves they all must be in a trance.

[-] 1 points by owstag (508) 2 years ago

You're a 'truther'? Come on man, those 9-11 conspiracy theories have been thoroughly debunked.

It is true that there were high ranking intelligence personal who warned that an attack was being planned, and one guy in particular (forget his name; there was a PBS Frontline report about him) who pretty much predicted the attacks were coming but his urgent admonitions were dismissed. But there is no credible evidence whatsoever that 9-11 was either an 'inside job' or that they 'let' the attacks occur.

Did Bush and his minions exploit the attacks to pursue the neo-con agenda in Iraq? Absolutely. But they didn't engineer or deliberately allow 9-11 to happen

You have some good ideas; don't get caught up in truther conspiracies (it's SO 2005).

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

I should give up now because the trance is too deep to penetrate.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

Do you consider evidence? I don't rely on theories, I rely on evidence that I have studied for 100s of hours looking for a possible mistake. Try reading my blog, you will learn that I'm right.

Find a flaw in one of my findings, then tell me the specific fact that I'm wrong about.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

You're in the deep trance.

I'm not a truther. They want another investigation.

[-] 1 points by Faithntruth (997) 2 years ago

Much of the debunking has itself been debunked, but you are correct that, whatever the truth, the end result has been to strip our rights and support the military industrial complex.

[-] 1 points by owstag (508) 2 years ago

None of the debunking has been debunked. You need to learn how to think critically. Only kooks, doped, or sloppy thinkers fall for these nut job conspiracy theories.

Seriously, you have non idea how foolish you sound.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

Yea, I'm stupid and you're brilliant.

[-] 1 points by Faithntruth (997) 2 years ago

Knowing nothing about me or my history, you choose to attack my thinking based upon one statement, and resort to slanderous implications to support your own premise. It would behoove you to learn how to think critically yourself, not to mention how to conduct your half of a discussion. This one is over. Whatever you say at this point is not worth my time to read.

[-] 1 points by owstag (508) 2 years ago

If you can present compelling evidence to back up what you're saying I'd agree with you; you haven't and you can't.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Do you have any idea how IGNORANT and ARROGANT that sounds???

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

They are uninformed. Are you? The entire country is in a trance. Propaganda is very effective. Nobody can be this stupid. How do you snap an entire country out of their trance? Do you know?

[-] 1 points by owstag (508) 2 years ago

One problem I see with the OWS movement - and I think you may be essentially saying the same thing - is that, using your trance metaphor, in many respects it seems the protesters are essentially snapping out of one trance just to go into another.

I think something like a 'day of absence' - that is to say, a day on which those of us who are employed, in all walks of life and across the political spectrum, simply stayed home; that could well send a wakeup call to Wall Street and Washington and the multinationals that there is a force here to be reckoned with. But once you've got their attention, you'd better have something intelligent to say (as opposed to, say, climbing 70' up a structure or banging on bongos channeling Woodstock).

I think you at least are attempting to formulate a coherent agenda, unlike so many of the assembled trustafarian types, many of whom seem to be engaged in something more akin to Burning Man than a well thought out political movement.

Anyway, like I said, I'll check out your link; you may be onto something, Maurice.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

Trance is no metaphor.

[-] 1 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

If you can't get this please call and explain it to me. 203-612-1987 This is dead serious. You need to explain this to the entire country who are all in a trance.

Lunacy has engulfed all Americans

Every American person who demands believing complete nonsense is in a trance that makes lunacy look mild. To not want to know that George Bush was warned more than 40 times for months before 9/11 and then FBI Director Tom Pickard jumped into Attorney General Ashcroft’s face on July 12, 2001 in Ashcroft’s office in front of many people proves beyond any doubt that Bush ordered the spectacular collapse after the Arabs’ plane hit. This is unquestionable that there are many witnesses who would be crazy to lie about what Shennon wrote and published because Ashcroft told Pickard that he didn’t want to know anything about having a terrorist attack proves they planted the explosives way before 9/11.

Nobody but Bush and his creep friends did it. Nobody on earth who could order the 9/11 crime to start the Iraq war but the only person who demanded we attack Iraq was Bush and Cheney. This is red meat for OWS but they are liberal wimps afraid to blow the whistle now that the cameras are on. First we need to go directly to NYPD headquarters demanding a meeting with the NYPD Counter terrorist command about this evidence.

For any person on earth to not want to know that Bush did that is beyond moronic. Since all people aren’t stupid, the fact can only be that they are in a brainwashed trance.

The OWS people should be using this incredible situation to be specific about Bush and all creep fiend, screwball friends who would be part of this. The fact that the OWS people are protecting Bush proves they all must be in a trance.

[-] 2 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Sergeant Shamar Thomas is an awesome American. He underlines the accountability to the constitution that comes with taking the oath as a combat soldier.

If 2 more states apply for an Article V convention, it will be blatently obvious that congress is violating the law of the consitution. This will answer the question of Sergeant Shamar Thomas to the NYPD. "Why are you doing this?"

The answer is that there is no authority to hold them accountable to civil rights violations. They do what they want because congress will not force constitutionality by courts.------

When 34 states have applied. 2 more, the movement needs to demonstrate at military bases and ask for a military constitutional intervention into a massive insurrection conducted secretly, but made obvious at the highest level by the over adequate application to congress for convention to amend and congresses failure to convene delegates.-----

They are hurting us because the chain of command in the military has been infiltrated to varying degrees, and governmental infiltrations over the military have created a fear and distrust in many areas that did not have that before. This is not normal "soldiering". The ordinary soldier has been hit with psyops that compliments that hitting the public in divisional ways. The infiltration served to get compliance with illegal wars by the military, on behalf of special interests.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

THANKS so much for this, Christopher. I have sensed from the begiinning that you are on the right track with Article V.

The OWS Patriots are asking for a return to the RULE OF LAW.

WE SHALL OVERCOME!

[-] 1 points by ChristopherABrown (550) from Santa Barbara, CA 2 years ago

Some unity forming around the constitution and understanding of it. A skype conference.

http://www.articlevmeeting.info/

Then there was Article V conference, Mark Meckler Lawrence Lessig at harvard 9/25/11-video comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-7ikbvu0Y8

Lessig power point on article V http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpbfY-atMk

Lots of facts here about Article V. http://algoxy.com/poly/article_v_convention.html

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

THANK YOU for keeping me posted. There is hope!!!

[-] 2 points by stevemiller (1062) 2 years ago

Only Keith Olberman played it. They buried Keith.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

I just watched the 3 videos again with my grandson and he was wide-eyed with excitement : "WOW! he is THE MAN!"

To all other parents and grand-parents of boys out there, I highly recommend watching these videos with your sons. Sergeant Thomas is a ROLE MODEL for true American manhood and honor - in defense of the weak, NOT of the Sleazy Corrupt System that is oppressing us.

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

Thanks for posting this; it was great!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You're VERY welcome!

[-] 1 points by Kulafarmer2 (118) 2 years ago

I cant wait till the cops try and institute martial law,

Thats when people will stand up for our liberties

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Yup! That's what Mubarak tried in Egypt.... And, lo and behold! The ARMY decided to side with THE PEOPLE!!! I suspect the same would happen in America.... or some soldiers might get their butts kicked by their mothers, their wives and their kids!!!

[-] 1 points by BeheadedOne (23) from Queens, NY 2 years ago

That was awesome! Well done Sergeant Thomas! And thank you!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Yeah - that's what my grandson said: "AWESOME!"

Please spread the word about these videos via email or word of mouth. I would especially like to recommend to you parents and grand-parents of boys out there, to watch these videos with your SONS. Sergeant Thomas is a ROLE MODEL for true American manhood and honor.

[-] 1 points by BeheadedOne (23) from Queens, NY 2 years ago

Amen!!! I'd like to buy him a beer, but I don't know how to contact him.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Anybody out there know how we could contact Sergeant Shamar Thomas?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (9780) 2 years ago

Great Post! I'll have to watch this!

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 2 years ago

As a marine I feel like he was a fake a becuz of the ribbons on his cammies. But as a marine vet I don't care cuz his message was right on. We fought for freedom of speech and the police are pissing and shitting on it every day. Marine or not he stood tall and made me proud oooo rah

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Thank you for that! I think he made us ALL proud to be HUMANS. My grandson wants me to get an autographed picture of him to place in my den. And I will!

[-] 1 points by Justice4All (285) 2 years ago

Marines are awesome.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 2 years ago

Ditto

I am proud of this marine. He is a good model for what a citizen should. Active and involved. A part of this great country

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

A REAL Marine - a real MAN created in GOD'S IMAGE, not just another unthinking cog in the Machine.

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 2 years ago

Truly, someone who knows how to stand up and take real action. Some talk of standing up. But those are just words. Words can lead to action.

But action is only way change occurs even if it's just simply voting for the right candidate who stands up for you..

[-] 1 points by Puzzlin (2898) 2 years ago

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto,

This makes me proud to be an American!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

SAME HERE! Thank you for that!

[-] 1 points by alex2365 (29) from Morgantown, PA 2 years ago

A peaceful demonstration is the right way to go. If you are not as ancient as I am then read what it was like in Selma, Montgomery and Little Rock in 1964. Remember Dr. Martin Luther King's vow of peaceful demonstrations. Remember 1968 and the end of the Vietnam War. Don't give the police a reason to react. Remember: "The whole world is watching".

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

I AM as ancient as you are and rather well-versed in the civil rights struggle because I was THERE.

Are you implying in your comment that Sergeant Thomas was "violent" in any way? He was VIRILE and FORCEFUL, just as Dr. King was in the pulpit, but not violent in any way - nor did he call for anyone to commit violent acts.

Why, JESUS himself was more violent than Sergeant Thomas in the Temple, as he raised a whip to chase the greedy money changers who were the contemporary equivalent of the Wall-Street criminals of today!

[-] 1 points by alex2365 (29) from Morgantown, PA 2 years ago

Not at all. Just reminding people to let the enforcement agencies make the first move. Also, I don't know exactly what caused the encounter but as a 20 year Army Infantry soldier - While I may not agree with SGT Thomas' actions or words - I will defend his right to say them. I pray every day that there will be no riot batons, water hoses and tear gas used again on the people of our country. And God have mercy of the USA if there is another Kent State. I apologize if I was misunderstood - just concerned for the OWS, etc. safety.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Did Jesus "let the enforcement agencies make the first move"??? If he had, he would've waited a loooooooong time, 'cause those Roman soldiers were NOT about to start picketing for social justice! :)

Sometimes a man's gotta "man up" and express his MANLY INDIGNATION at a situation:

"I'm not gonna take this anymore!!!"

I tell you, I ADMIRE this Marine and my grandson found him "awesome"!

[-] 1 points by alex2365 (29) from Morgantown, PA 2 years ago

I agree with you. Perhaps the SGT was just trying to explain how much he had to sacriface of himself so the peole's right to be heard is respected and guaranteed. Yes, we all should stand up for our rights which are guaranteed to All Americans. In the video the police appear to conduct themselves in an orderly manner. Therefore - the right of Freedom of Speech was respected and carried out. No one got hurt is the point of my post.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

"In the video the police appear to conduct themselves in an orderly manner.". I BEG TO DIFFER! The NYPD actually THREATENED the crowd with violence :

"Last night at Occupy Wall Street in Times Square, Marine Sergeant Shamar Thomas boldly defended the occupiers. Sergeant Thomas calmly asked the NYPD why they aren't protecting the peaceful protestors. The NYPD ignored his questions and continued telling protestors to leave the sidewalk otherwise "they'd get hurt."

Then, in an epic scene, Thomas approached the line of NYPD officers who held their batons.

While many Occupy Wall Street demonstrators had been arrested for merely crossing the street, he exclaimed, "These are U.S. citizens peacefully protesting! These are the people you are supposed to protect!" The 10-15 NYPD officers he addressed dared not to touch him.

Sergeant Thomas continued denouncing the NYPD's actions shouting, "This isn't a war zone! I've served overseas, that's a war zone! Get rid of your batons and helmets!"

After five minutes of severely and loudly criticizing the NYPD, the Sergeant walked away leaving the scorned officers behind. The few people who were there applauded and cheered.

Whether those officers mindset will change is uncertain. What is certain, however, is that the NYPD is conflicted when confronted by Members of our Armed Services. That said, I hope more Marines will join in defending U.S. citizens from megalomaniac individuals leading corrupt financial and political institution. Thank you Sergeant Thomas for defending American's rights to protest. You really are The Few and The Proud."

[-] 1 points by alex2365 (29) from Morgantown, PA 2 years ago

I am very glad that you are pleased with, and supportive of, this American veteran. You use the words "conflicted" and "confronted" when referring to his dissertation to the police officers. Since it is obvious you have never served in the armed forces of the United States please let me clarify this. Upon enlistment every soldier, sailor and airman takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. This oath never goes away whether we discharge or we retire. I would think that if you took time to look at the video you would see fear in the eyes of some NYPD officers. No American should ever fear a soldier who represents our country. Also, were any of these officers veterans of running in to the Twin Towers to save people. And, in closing, just where were you when your country needed you? Alex, 1SG E8 US Army

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You write : "Upon enlistment every soldier, sailor and airman takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Hear, hear! Thank you for reminding us of that MAJOR POINT. And might I point out that is EXACTLY what Sargeant Thomas was doing that night : "upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States" against those policemen who were trampling on it and threatening with violence FREEDOM-LOVING American citizens who were simply exercising their Constitutional rights

Sergeant Thomas is the ultimate Patriot..

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You write : "Upon enlistment every soldier, sailor and airman takes an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Hear, hear! Thank you for reminding us of that MAJOR POINT. And might I point out that is EXACTLY what Sargent Thomas was doing that night : "upholding and defending the Constitution of the United States" against those policemen who were trampling on it.

[-] 1 points by alex2365 (29) from Morgantown, PA 2 years ago

Okay, I give. You have a bone to pick with authority figures and I could care less. SGT Thomas.....1. Does NOT represent the military structure of this country. 2. I doubt, dressing like a homeless person, he is even on active duty. 3. If he is, in all his raving anger, then he is guilty of Conduct Non-Becoming a Soldier. But for one who sat on his ass while the rest of us gave; I don't expect a radial to understand what I am saying. Once a Marine - Always a Marine. You really must have had a good run in with the police at sometime. By the way...how do feel about fireman? Stop trying to be an armchair general..

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Let the readers of this post see the videos and make up their own minds.... I trust in their good judgement, whether they are military, police, firemen or any other..

[-] 1 points by vega57th (3) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Occupy Wall Street needs to become Occupy New Corp. They are big supporters of keeping the 99% down. They've influenced congress and the governement by making sure our tax system is unfair and favors the truely wealthly. And they try to discredit the occupy wall street protestors every night on Fox News Shows like "The Five", "Red Eye" and "Hannity".

[-] 1 points by Nulambda (265) 2 years ago

Hits the nail right on the head. We need to get more police officers, more military officers, to stand down and stop support this corrupt regime. Their power is derived from their ability to use force. If their 'soldiers' stop defending them, and defend us, the people, then victory is ours. To all the police, to all the military: Please. Stand Down!

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Hear, hear!

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

$1,900 per month ain't much

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

a dished washed for a couple years for $1200

the job's health benefits refused to pay for treatments that they had said they would

my rent is $400

[-] 1 points by StevenRoyal (490) from Dania Beach, FL 2 years ago

He's more of a man than Joe the Plumber-butt ever can even dream to be.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

He reminds me of the KNIGHTS of the Middle Ages... the epitomy of true honor and true manhood. Just the opposite of the grotesque "machos" who would like us to think THEY are the real men...

[-] 0 points by diff (26) 2 years ago

Even up the wealth of the nation Better yet, the world Everyone can have the same opportunity the same starting point everyone can work to their ability/desire without having been hampered at the start

but what about my neighbour she has four kids, i only have three to raise does that mean she gets more than me? The older bloke up the road has asthma he needs his medication I suppose that means he should get a little more Sharon's oldest son is quadraplegic so she needs probably more again

Dispensing the wealth of the nation is becoming complicated and that's only in this culdesac We will need someone to administer this wealth that we'll accumulate by taking it off the rich

I think that should be my job I will be fair and even I know what is right and wrong I can handle the responsibility of massive amounts of money Even though I've never actually earned any myself I can imagine what it will be like That's all the experience I need

Spread it out That's the first and most important

Doesn't matter what you have done to earn it There's enough to go round You can sit in front of your computer watching porn you can drink yourself to a stupor every morning You can smoke dope till your eyes bleed You can study at uni till you're fifty years old You can all have the same amount It's fair.

Occupy Wall Street What a JOKE You think you're revolutionaries The ideal you seek is Communism

You think you can do it right? What happens when a centralised agency has to administer the wealth of the nation? Ask Russians how that worked for them.

The only fair way is CAPITALISM Trade takes two parties, one to provide one to want what is being provided

Earn what you get If you want more Earn it

[-] 1 points by RantCasey (782) from Saginaw, MI 2 years ago

How is freedom of speech communism??? How is corporate regulation communism... Corporate welfare is communism? How is campaign finance reform communist. We want the chance to be able to work hard. But we can't getting a college degree only gets you a job at mcdonalds today. Work harder. I do. I guarantee I work as hard as you u tard read what people actually want not what Rush says we want

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

What a STARK CONTRAST between the honesty, candor and sheer GUTS of this Marine and the cowardice and deviousness of our Prez!!!

Sergeant Thomas deserves the Medal of Bravery for taking a stand as he did. When ALL of America follows his example, this whole, corrupt System will crumble and "WE THE PEOPLE" shall take back the power that is rightly ours according to the Constitution and that was stolen from us by the political and corporate whores in what amounts to an unlawful COUP D'ÉTAT on the part of the 1%.

[-] 0 points by commonsense11 (195) 2 years ago

Is he currently active duty? I don't know of any active duty marines that would run around in public without their hats on, undershirts not tucked in, and jackets unbuttoned. A publicity stunt perhaps?

[-] 2 points by OneVoiceInMany (91) 2 years ago

I see military officers dressed just like that eating at restaurants, they're off duty they don't need to do all that while off duty, nor do they need to wear a hat to eat their soup.

[-] 1 points by jbell78 (152) 2 years ago

I think you're exaggerating. You would never see a military officer dressed like that eating anywhere.

I smell shenanigans too.

[-] 0 points by commonsense11 (195) 2 years ago

Wrong. Any time you are in public you are to be in full uniform. The military is all about discipline and pride. If not in full uniform you are to be in civilian clothing.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

TROLL

[-] 0 points by commonsense11 (195) 2 years ago

I'm not a troll. I happened to have served in the military and I know active duty do not walk around like that. It's engrained in your brain to always be in uniform when in public. So is he active duty or not?

[-] 1 points by Hellomynameis (243) from Aptos, CA 2 years ago

I believe he isn't active duty.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You haven't even bothered listening to the interviews, have you??? And you are one of those people who think UNIFORM is more important than SUBSTANCE. So I suppose Oliver North is your HERO???

FYI, Sergeant Thomas was wearing his medals on that day in Wall Street and explained how his whole family have served America in various wars... He is a TRUE PATRIOT, not just a BRAIN-DEAD CONFORMIST.

Would YOU have the guts to do what he did???

[-] 1 points by jbell78 (152) 2 years ago

I don't think anyone disagrees with what 'Sergent' Thomas did.

Why do you disagree that those who have served in the military know that no Marine would ever do that - especially knowing there are dozens of cameras pointed at him?

[-] 0 points by commonsense11 (195) 2 years ago

I have the guts to do what is right! Some are in the movement for the right reasons because reform is needed. Many are in the movement for the wrong reason, laziness and a feeling of entitlement. It makes it difficult to accept the movement with the respect it deserves for many out there.

I never said I listened to the interview. I'm currently unable to do so because of my location. I will when I have the ability to. I simply asked a question based upon an observation because you just don't see active duty walking around like that. Quite frankly there is nothing wrong with having a little pride in the uniform and it is engrained in the minds of soldiers.

Try not to get your panties in a bunch.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You have the NERVE to bring up "pride"???? Sergeant Thomas is the very embodiment of pride, the quintessential American hero.

Besides, you're evading the question : "Would YOU have the guts to leave your panties in the drawer and do what he did???"

[-] 0 points by commonsense11 (195) 2 years ago

I avoided no question. I said I have the guts to do what is right! If I was involved in the situation and knew what was going on I would act on what I perceived. I have a general distrust for the news and what is reported since it is typically based upon opinions and everything is spun to reflect those opinions.

I'll look forward to watching the video. My question was simply if he was active duty or was this a man who bought his uniform at an army surplus store trying to play upon our patriotic pride to lend credence to his confrontation. Question everything because it should be questioned. My observation was based on his appearance and what is typical of an active duty Marine. I'm not even saying any of that negates anything that was said in the video. I just like to see things as they are not as someone tries to make me see it.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

"I just like to see things as they are not as someone tries to make me see it." Well, if you like to SEE things as they are, then please make sure you SEE the three videos ASAP and then share your reaction with us on this post. From what I know about Marines, Sergeant Thomas must by now be a HERO to most of them.

[-] 1 points by commonsense11 (195) 2 years ago

I'll look forward to watching them.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

Great!

[-] -1 points by AntiCorp (187) 2 years ago

TIOUAISE...Do you have the guts to do what he did or is typing the word "troll" in every post you disagree with your act of revolution? Talk minus action equals zero.

[-] 1 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

As a matter of fact, I DO. And I HAVE done what he did and I'm still alive to talk about it to my grand-children...

When a man decides to "man up" to the System, it's surprising how the System often just loses its nerve. It's called the David-and-Goliath syndrome...

[-] -1 points by AntiCorp (187) 2 years ago

I don't think typing the "word" troll over and over is the same thing as what Sergeant Shamar Thomas did but if you say it is, then I believe you! Again, talk minus action equals zero.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

I answered you clearly, my cuddly little muppet :

"As a matter of fact, I DO. And I HAVE done what he did and I'm still alive to talk about it to my grand-children..." Clear enough? Do you need my autobiography? You may in fact have a chance to read it one day, as I am a published author with at least one best-seller to my credit.

[-] 0 points by AntiCorp (187) 2 years ago

Really...wow.....something like this...I wrote a book, I made money off it, I felt guilty, I joined an unorganized hippie protest so I could write another book and make more money? Yeah, send me an autographed copy when it comes out.

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

And I thought you TROLLS defended the wealthy??? You disappoint me...

"Momcalled" and said you really should brush up on your TROLLOSOPHY:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-trolls-think-trollosophy-exposed/

[-] 0 points by AntiCorp (187) 2 years ago

So r u a hypocrite? I'm still not convinced.

[-] 0 points by AntiCorp (187) 2 years ago

I do defend the wealthy...you are not wealthy remember you are a 99%'er or r u a hypocrite?

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

You don't read the papers much, do you? More and more wealthy - but not greedy - Americans have come out in support of OWS. In fact, they are clamoring like Warren Buffett : "TAX US MORE!" These people are not "saints", they are simply fair-minded and sensible and don't want to see their country go to pot.

[-] 0 points by sudoname (1001) from Berkeley, CA 2 years ago

TIOUAISE is running around calling everyone a troll. http://ows.superunion.org/results/?q=TIOUAISE%20

[-] 0 points by TIOUAISE (2526) 2 years ago

I'm not REALLY running around... I'm comfortably seated, thank you for asking.

And BTW you forgot to mention that I was the very first researcher in the world to leak the heretofore closely-guarded secrets of the infamous TROLLOSOPHY :

http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-trolls-think-trollosophy-exposed/