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Forum Post: With all of the horrible Libya's news - here is some miraculous good news

Posted 11 years ago on Sept. 22, 2012, 2:04 a.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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At least one person is dead and more than 20 are wounded after pro-government protesters forced the Islamist militia group Ansar al-Sharia from their final remaining base in Benghazi early Saturday. “No more al Qaeda!” protesters chanted as they overtook the base to cries of “The blood we shed for freedom shall not go in vain!” More than 30,000 Libyan demonstrators marched Friday to call for the disbanding of the country’s growing number of militias and voice their concern over Islamic extremism in Libya—especially last week’s attack on U.S. government officials. “After what happened at the American Consulate, the people of Benghazi had enough of the extremists,” one Libyan demonstrator told Al Jazeera. But Friday’s militia expulsion isn’t purely the result of spontaneous civic activism: the sweep appears to be part of a coordinated action by Libyan police to rid Benghazi of the Islamist militia.



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[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (647) 11 years ago

Apparently, the reason dictators exist is they treat every religious and non religious sect with an iron fist. And to achieve this, they apparently have to be feared by all groups.

So to the outside, it looks like these guys are over the top corrupt thugs, which they probably are. However, once removed from power, several smaller groups pop up with the goal of being the new dictator.

The result is new violence but without a true center to reign it in.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

It's difficult to understand the real situation there. Qadaffi was part of the inner circle, and was offered a position at Goldman Sachs, after they lost his 1.3 billion plus investment with them.


According to an investigation by the Wall Street Journal, Goldman offered to make Gaddafi one of its biggest investors as compensation for losing 98% of the money the Wall Street firm invested on behalf of the Libyan Investment Authority (LIA). This left the $53bn Gaddifi-controlled sovereign wealth fund, which elsewhere has stakes in companies such as Financial Times-owner Pearson and BP, with just $25.1m of the money it entrusted to Goldman.

Then there's this article about the Brit MI6;

British spies supplied the Libyan dictator's secret agents with intelligence, mobile phones and an upmarket London safe house
Experts say the explosive documents suggest breaches of the Geneva Conventions, the Human Rights Act and criminal law

By Robert Verkaik, Barbara Jones and David Rose

PUBLISHED: 22:00 GMT, 21 April 2012 | UPDATED: 01:52 GMT, 22 April 2012

MI5 betrayed enemies of Colonel Gaddafi given refuge in Britain in a covert joint operation with Libyan spies working on UK soil, documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday reveal.

Gaddafi’s secret agents were supplied by MI5 with intelligence, secure mobile phones and a luxurious safe house in the heart of London’s Knightsbridge.

The extraordinary revelations emerge from hundreds of secret documents unearthed from Libyan spymasters’ archives after the Gaddafi regime was toppled – with British military help – last year.

Shockingly, they reveal tactics of intimidation and coercion – and expose the British agents’ specific fears that their actions might be reported by the press in the UK.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133276/MI5-betrayed-Libya-dissidents-Gaddafi-spies-London-sting-Secret-documents-exposed-MoS-trigger-political-storm.html#ixzz27Ee9f85A

And then there's the revelation that some of the islamist militia are being left to do whatever they like, because they are at least keeping the peace in some hotbed areas.


Backers of the ousted regime continue to hold sway in some parts of the country, particularly the western city of Bani Walid and parts of the deep south. Gadhafi loyalists near the southern town of Barek al-Shati have been clashing with a pro-government militia for several days, killing nearly 20, and abducted 30 militiamen from a bus, according to Essam al-Katous, a senior security official.

Since Gadhafi's ouster and death around a year ago, a series of interim leaders have struggled to build the state from scratch and bring order to a country that was eviscerated under his 42-year regime, with security forces and the military intentionally kept weak and government institutions hollowed of authority.

The militias, which arose as people took up arms to fight Gadhafi during last year's eight-month civil war, bristle with heavy weapons, pay little attention to national authorities and are accused by some of acting like gangs, carrying out killings. Islamist militias often push their demands for enforcement of strict Shariah law.

Yet, authorities need them. The Rafallah Sahati Brigade kept security in Benghazi during national elections this year. Its compound, once a Gadhafi residence, contains a prison and protects a large collection of seized weapons. Ansar al-Shariah guards Benghazi's main Jalaa Hospital, putting a stop to frequent attacks against it by gunmen.

I'm of the opinion that there's a lot more than meets the eye when it comes to the attack on Libya. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I do know that Qadaffi wanted to kick the banksters out, and form his own currency and central bank.

That is generally a death sentence to any regime that is flush with oil (and water)

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 11 years ago

I'd be very cautious about any information coming from Libya.

Paid mercenaries are still active, and so are tribes fiercely protective of the Qadaffi regime.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 11 years ago

To what extent are Qadaffi supporters in position of power?
With him gone, I would think they are in hiding.
It is my impression that most of ALL of this is the Imams & radical Muslims.
Do you disagree?