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Forum Post: Who is the TEA Party running for President this year has anyone heard?

Posted 2 years ago on Aug. 10, 2012, 7:51 a.m. EST by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ
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I was just reading a story about the Greens and Jill Stein, how she had ran in 2002 for governor and in 2004 for state house, but highest office she has held is Town Meeting representative, (man if inexperience is your criteria she’s way ahead). It got me thinking does anybody know who is running on the TEA Party ticket? Here’s my source:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/03/can-anyone-replace-nader-in-the-green-party-race-for-the-white-house.html

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[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 2 years ago

T P:

pray away the gay michelle, quitter sarah, I am not a witch christene

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Tea party are focusing on House & Senate. They ain't impressed with Romney. That's why Romney chose the right wing wacko Ryan

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

It's Ryan v Christie in 2016 I'd like to see Gore on the other side of that fight, I hope that we work through the primaries to get someone good on the D side as oppose to trying say the Greens I'd rather see Jill as the Sec. of Health & Human Services in a Ds admin rather than pulling votes, but that's me, I'm scared to death of the R's.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I agree. Stein would fit well in a progressive D admin. I think 2016 will be Hilary no? Love Gore but I think he is done. Perhaps his daughters can start a career soon. (like Chelsea seems to be suggesting)

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I think you're right and it will be Hilary, I was for her in '08, because I figured she knew she was in a fight from the start, I watch how Gore strip thousands of pages of government regs out of the books, and I know we will never have someone with the knowledge or commitment combined, maybe one or the other but not both in one like with Gore, if only the man could give a speech without sounding like a 5th grade teacher.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Lol. I was also for Hilary in '08. I thought she would be tougher. I was right. I think Gore can be some kinda secretary of the greentech agency or something. I don't know. We are gonna need lotsa help environmentally by 2016.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

It is hard to imagine what it will be like if CU is still standing in four years.

I think OWS presents a way to counter the money, but still this is the sort of thing that just grows with time, it's not like the money doesn't already rule, but with no limits it may not matter what people want when the Koch bros can drop a million dollars to defeat a town councilman who can stand up to that?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Nobody it is the biggest threat to any real progress. It must be our 1st priority. A constitutional amendment appears the best way. I don't know if it is possible. We must agitate for a solution. Because we cannot really compete with all that money unless all people are engaged and votinf % approaches 90%.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

This is such a real problem I recall a story, I heard on NPR about a judge who had ruled against a company in a lawsuit brought by a smaller one over mining rights I believe and the case did not go the way the larger company wanted so they dumped a bunch of money into this little judge election got the guy change out and the new guy who got all this money from them did not recuse himself and they got their appeal.

The power to pick the mayor, the judge, the state leaders you want will hand it all over, the Roberts Court must be stopped before "He who has the gold, makes the rule." becomes reality.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Or the reality is cemented in place.

[-] 2 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

It already is.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Oh well I guess it's too late. Might as well give up. Is there a corner I can crawl into?

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

Better not do that. There's always a chink in the enemy's armor. David, barely a man and a shepard, managed to defeat Goliath, a seasoned warrior and giant, at least according to the legend.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

So we should grow the movement with education, protest, agitate for money out of politics and elect politicians who will serve the 99%, hold them to it or deny them re election?

Is that what you saying.?

[-] 2 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

"Elect progressives. Could be any progressive, Republican, democrat, independent. Just someone who will serve the 99%."

That's probably the best place to start, while maintaining pressure from all other avenues.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Wow! That was tough. but momentous.

How do you feel?

Did you just tell me what I want to hear to shut me up? 'sok. I would understand. You wouldn't be the 1st. I'm a bit overwhelming.

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

"Did you just tell me what I want to hear to shut me up?"

No, I support nearly all peaceful means to achieve the goal of an equal and fair society. If that means voting, regardless of my personal opinions about our "right" to select "leaders," then by all means vote.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

I guess that's good.

Thx. "Power to the people, right on" JL

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

"Oh ok no goal of money out of politics?"

I agree with you, but given the Supreme Court decision on CU, and the improbability of passing a Constitutional amendment to change the electoral process, we should not expect any significant changes for years and years.

More or less, we start with the system, just as you suggest, but also educate, agitate, protest all the while.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Well regarding Scotus, and CU you certainly offer a good reason not to do much. However, I must submit that there is nothing the people united cannot accomplish. We must not be deterred. We must fight for this critical, fundamental change. There is much activity and the issue crosses the 2 party demographic.

I would also only add: Educate, agitate, protest to take back the govt. from the 1% conservative plutocats.

Elect progressives. Could be any progressive, Republican, democrat, independent. Just someone who will serve the 99%.

No good?

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

We'd better start with the first step: educating Americans through protest and agitation to start envisioning a better way of running our country.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Oh ok no goal of money out of politics?

No voting?

"Agitate to start envisioning a better way of running our country" Well I can agree with what you propose. In fact I am doing what you propose. I'm sorry you can't support what I propose.

You wanna spell out the "better way of running the country" for me.?

C'mon let's have it. Lets see if we agree.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Did you see that True Blood where Russel got busted out of the concrete?

Well, I got a hammer...

[-] 1 points by TitusMoans (2451) from Boulder City, NV 2 years ago

I've got a chisel. Ooops, that's sounds menacing.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Love Jill Stein. Wish she could win. Tea party loves Paul Ryan even though he took stimulus and accomplished nothing in 12 years in congress. Maybe because he accomplished nothing in 12 trs in congress.

Hypocrit

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

he voted for TARP too which as recall was the start of the TEA Party, I didn't know at the time the TEA Party was in favor of TARP:

http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/24249

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 2 years ago

Sure. It was a republican gift to the 1% banksters before Bush left office. No real crises existed. Except the Repubs w/ 1% banksters said to Congressional Dems "give us a trillion dollars or we will stop all lending".

We got mugged. Tea party may have said they were against it but like every other republican Zombie they follow lockstep. (Or is that goosestep)

[-] 2 points by ComeTogetherNOW (650) 2 years ago


Yes, it's PAUL RYAN

Any questions???

Come Together NOW



[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

In what? 3 years, the TEA Party has taken over the GOP, I think you are pretty much right, it would seem that getting involved in Party politics can sure get your message out, and what's more it can put you in a position to set policy, hmmm how long has OWS been around? The Ds look weaker and less organized than the GOP to me, how hard could it be, really?

[-] 3 points by ComeTogetherNOW (650) 2 years ago

The Tea Party is certainly behind the Ryan pick. Let's see how it works out for them. Maybe after their stomping in November they rich fat cat backers will abandon the astro-turfed TP and it will die quickly. It was never a grass roots org. It was bought and paid for by the rich. Investigate it, it's all there.

Any bets TP raging on into 2013 with new found power?

Come Together NOW

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I think the GOP is setting up for a battle Royale in 2016 when Christie and Ryan go after the nomination, establishment verses TEA Party. We could have a clear choice for American by then not a third party the most that could happen by 2016 would be another 2000 and we could end up with President Ryan, he would make Bush look like a saint.

[-] 1 points by ComeTogetherNOW (650) 2 years ago

OWS just didn't materialize out of thin air, this train has been coming down the track before most of us were born. They arrived and made a big MARK!!!

Why do think they are so successful?

When did you hear of the 99%???

Come Together NOW

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I have been talking about the unbalance in the system that will lead to collapse if left unchecked for 30 years, and took a few lumps along the way, but I never felt like I ever had any choice really, how can you not see what you see?

[-] 1 points by ParanoidJacksonian (1) 2 years ago

I can answer your question, factsrfun: Mitt Romney is their presidential candidate. And Paul Ryan is their Vice Presidential candidate.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I'd say you're about right, it only took the TEA Party three years to co-opt the Republicans, I guess that's the sort of thing you can do when you fear nothing.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I dislike people that tell us government is for professionals

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I thought about trying out a new demist but was dissuaded when I found out he had only been to barber school.

Lucky it was just pulling a tooth and not something important.

I dislike people that make a mockery of our right to vote.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 years ago

I changed dentist once

the results weren't any better

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I did twice, once it was, once it wasn't I wish there had been more information available.

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

It is Obama.Time to hope a dope

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

It’s Choom Time Baby!!!

Does this one remind anyone of something?

  1. Veto One of the favorite words in their subculture revealed their democratic nature. The word was veto. Whenever an idea was broached, someone could hold up his hand in the V sign (a backward peace sign of that era) and indicate that the motion wash not approved. They later shortened the process so that you could just shout "V" to get the point across. In the Choom Gang, all V's were created equal.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/a-users-guide-to-smoking-pot-with-barack-obama

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Nice to see he had a normal American adolecense.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

It gives one cause for hope.

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

i would not rely on him for that.History is filled with people that can deliver a good speech

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Don't I know it, what if Gore could have?

[-] 1 points by lancealotlink (147) 2 years ago

I think its Ted Cruize some lawyer hack who says he from Texas but is really from dc. cmon ride the train the party train ......

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

I know what you mean, it's like the media won't stop talking about that "party locked" TEA Party, I guess it gives America something to watch.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Why should anyone care who the Green Party is running for President? Unfortunately under our non democratic system the actual contest is between the two wings of the oligarchic party. Your question about the TP is easy to answer: After a grueling contest the TP candidate is Mitt Romney. They'd have preferred someone else but couldn't come up with who that would be. I'd like to see the TP take a political defeat. I'd like to see the money pumped in by the Koch brothers, Sheldon Aedelson and friends to come to naught. I'd like to see very long faces on those doorbell ringing liars of the Mormon Church too.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

We could kill one of those parties, i think one of them has gone insane seems it should be pretty easy if we can bust through the media blockade and get the information out there. Taking one of them down would shake things up pretty well I would think.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

That's why I'm going to hold my nose and participate in the first presidential election I've voted in since 1968 and vote to kill the GOP.

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

My sister said she will also hold her nose and vote GOP.But it is a large nose and enough stink to kill someone.No matter who you vote for Wall st wins.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Guess what? Capitalism is not going to be abolished this coming November. Also, whether you or I or your sister like it or not there is going to be a vote for the presidency of the US of A regardless of what i feel about it. So, I'm going to vote in a way that does the most good or the least harm to the 99 percent cause as I see it. The most rabid of the one percenter politicians bought directly by the most rabid and plain flat out criminal billionaires are in one party. I want to see them get beaten, and if they don't succeed in plain rigging the election in enough states they may very well be beaten. I want to see the Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Jamie Dimon get beat. I want the electorate to reject the party that out and out advocates slashing of the social contract that the one percent has so far had with the 99 percent in the US which is mainly medicare medicaid and social security. I know the democrats are not great defenders of those things and good for little else but that's where things stand right now.

[-] 2 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Find somthing you can feel good about.And do it.I f a person has reservations doing whatever it is a good indicator that it should not be done.People are very adept at convincing themselves of things they are not comfortable with.The so called lesser of two evils is still evil.Thanks for your post.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

Don't forget that the Dems are also bought. It's pretty close to a tie in outside spending.

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/summ.php?cycle=2012&chrt=P&disp=O&type=A

[-] 1 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 2 years ago

Yep.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

I made an error in assuming that the outside spending was about the same. Actually the reps outspent the dems by a wide margin, but that was because of the primaries, reps battling reps. Obama had no opposition, so little outside spending by dems.

It will be a completely different story now that they are battling head to head.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

Would Sheldon Adelson spend $100 million dollars to make the Obama Justice Department go away? To have a US president intercede on his behalf with the Macau/Chinese authorities? To bomb Iran? Yep you can bet on it.

http://adelsongate.blogspot.com/

http://adelsongate.blogspot.com/2012/08/macau-launches-prostitution.html

Macau launches prostitution investigation on LVS’ China Sands owned by GOP moneyman Sheldon Adelson

http://adelsongate.blogspot.com/2012/08/sheldon-adelsons-sands-targeted-in.html

Sheldon Adelson's Sands Targeted in Money Laundering Investigation

http://arrestmittromney.blogspot.com/2012/07/who-is-sheldon-adelson-bibi-connection.html Who is Sheldon Adelson,- The Bibi Connection- The Crime Connection

http://arrestmittromney.blogspot.com/2012/07/yes-50000-page-views-for-romney-liar.html YES! 50,000 Page Views for ROMNEY THE LIAR! Here's All His Lies in One Place!

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/summ.php?disp=O

I went to your link. It shows that conservative leaning groups have $185.2 millions, liberal groups have $30.5 million and "others" have $20.9 million. This doesn't count what Sheldon Adelson's aide has said, that Adelson, a fanatical right wing zionist who with his corporations is under serious investigation in the US and China for Prostitution profiteering, money laundering, bribery is ready to spend over $100 million to beat Obama. Now that number $100 million is interesting. Mitt Romney was able to parlay IRA contributions of no more than $30,000 per year for fifteen years into $100 million. The guy must be some sort of genius or a crook.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

I made an error in assuming that the outside spending was about the same. Actually the reps outspent the dems by a wide margin, but that was because of the primaries, reps battling reps. Obama had no opposition, so little outside spending by dems.

It will be a completely different story now that they are battling head to head.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

If you go by "recipient party" it's more accurate, available here:

http://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/summ.php?cycle=2012&disp=O&type=A&chrt=P

It's pretty close. "Group viewpoint" does not necessarily show what party the money was directed to. Superpacs can give to a conservative in one race and a liberal in another.

This link shows direct donations:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php

Obama has double Romney's donations.

[-] 1 points by frogmanofborneo (602) from New York, NY 2 years ago

The web page has no date on it does it? Click the link to "candidates" and what do you see? http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/summary.php

Scads of Republicans, like Ron Paul listed as still in the race. Then those who dropped out and their money: And those who decided against running and their money. Money of all candidates: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/sourceall.php Outside spending:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/indexp.php You'll see Obama does not come close to the combined total of the Republican candidates. Now their donors are free to get behind Romney and even though "open secrets" hasn't caught up. it's clear that Romney owns the moneybags.

Here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/07/08/obama-s-money-worries-the-republican-superpac.html Obama’s Money Worries: The Republican SuperPac and Here: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77368.html Wall Street's vote: Romney by a landslide

Maybe in a few weeks "Open Secrets" will catch up with where things stand today. They'll still be behind the curve.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

It will be interesting to see how much money is raised by both sides. Opensecrets is at the mercy of when the data is released, sometimes weeks after the fact. Some of the outside spending reports are not released for months.

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 2 years ago

Not generally, DINOs for sure, mostly they just get hungry from our neglect.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 2 years ago

DINOs? What is that?

[-] 0 points by rpc972 (628) from Portland, OR 2 years ago

Seriously?

Dem version of RINOs.

Someone asked what the GI Bill was. There's a disturbing "lack of knowledge" on here, a board with a lot of loud voices. Don't that guy. Find out what the fuck we're talking about. Google, Wiki, ...

It's Class Warfare, we're losing, wake up!!

http://normangoldman.com/listen/

http://www.randirhodes.com/main.html

Get out the VOTE!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

get some nose plugs, because we got some work ahead, but think of the fun we can have in the primaries, they are going to run Ryan Paul in 2016 if we are all over the primaries we can get someone out of the bunch that will be decent, I hope

[-] 1 points by richardkentgates (3269) from Fort Walton Beach, FL 2 years ago

Nader was blocked from the debates last election.

http://www.opendebates.org/theissue/corpsponsor.html

I would love to see another party. The problem is the entire system works on an ape like need to follow the silverback. All the individuals that make up the media, Washington, the pentagon, congress, are unable to brake from this barbarism. All the education, the "I know stuff" suits. It's all costumes and makeup on a bunch of monkeys. Who has time to do something with all that grey matter when you have social politics to obey.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6714) from Phoenix, AZ 2 years ago

Nader should run for Congress, the way things are set up with "winner take all" two is all the system supports, that's why we always have two, we just have the wrong two right now I say get rid of one, that will scare the other enough to take over easy like.

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[-] 0 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 2 years ago

the tea party is the republican party. They just yell louder, interrupt people, and are somehow more ignorant.

And I find it incredibly assholish of you to diss on the only person running for president that took the time out of her day to actually protests banks stealing people's homes. Not only that but she fully supports the 99%

Maybe if she voted YES on the TARP bailouts, YES on the patriot act, bombed 5 countries in the past 12 months, and used mercenaries like Black Water in Iraq and Afghanistan to this day... maybe then you'd think she has plenty of experience?

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